Your world must be very limited if the only way you can feed your family is by sitting in one particular chair in one particular cubicle owned by one particular company somewhere in the middle of Germany.
What? Did all the Germans starve to death before IBM decided to open up an office over there? People managed to feed their families millenia before IBM ever came into being, so what makes a job at IBM an unalienable natural right that the jackboot of the state has to protect?
Hey, what if you've never had a job before, just out of school? Do you strike against IBM or Siemens? Braun or Hewlett Packard?
In that context workers have a right to do whatever it takes to ensure their livelihoods.
That "whatefver it takes" had better not include violence, or you'll have to count me as an enemy. The only legitimate use of physical violence is in response to physical violence or its threatened use. If you can't get your way with peaceful non-violent cooperation, then your way isn't worth having.
You're absolutely right. Why, I'm a COBOL programmer, and I'm so glad I work for an enlightened liberal social democrat employer who didn't lay me off when I became totally irrelevant to the industry.
First of all, 50 software developers kicks you out of the realm of "small business owner". But regardless whether you are small or medium, the price of Qt is per developer. So treat it as a per developer cost. This isn't a monthly, or even yearly cost, it's a one time cost.
If you think $2500 is too expensive for tools of the trade, then talk to an automechanic, or someone in the building trades. I knew a tile setter who had his van stolen, and it cost him a heck of a lot more than $2500 to replace his tools of the trade. And that's not counting the van!
KDE has several widget styles, so nothing it tying you down to Plastik. Try Phase, for example (I wrote it). Or Highcolor or Light Style. Or heck, use the Windows theme if that's what you truly prefer.
Is Qt too expensive? Not according to the market! People *ARE* buying it at that price, because sure as heck it ain't the free edition downloads that are paying their way. Trolltech is hiring, by the way. So they must be doing something right. The reason the Qt price keeps creeping upwards is because the market keeps bidding the price higher and higher.
If you're a proprietary shareware/crapware author, then look elsewhere. Trolltech has already said you're not their market. So get over it. If you are a professional developer, however, Qt is very affordable.
A friend of mine is very big into pirated music, software and video. He is almost like a pusher in his compelling need to get other people to download warez.
Quote: "Dude, why are wasting your money on a theater? I have a copy of SpiderMan II right here! Just look at it!" He then goes on to show me a 160x120 fuzzy grainy video with crappy sound.
Wow! Talk about lying! You've taken the words "he lied" and made it seem like they were in my post. But there were not. Neither were they in the post I resonded to. You are putting false words in other people's mouths. You are the one who is deceitful and treacherous. You are the one who lied.
From your link: "Patterson, tired of waiting for a version of CP/M for the 8086, cloned it."
It is not bloody obvious that cloning is synonymous with copying. In fact, referencing your link again, it's not clear that the easter egg was even present, because we're hearing about it third hand without any details from a disreputable (Dvorak).
DOS may indeed have been a derivative copyied/stolen from CP/M, but it's not bloody obvious. However, naming a building after Gates instead of Kildall *is* bloody obvious, because naming buildings after financial patrons is a thousand year old tradition in universities, while naming them after operating system authors is not.
If you don't want the deal we're offering, go someplace else.
That's exactly what I said! If you keep pissing on commercial hardware manufacturers, they WILL go someplace else!
By "pissing" I don't mean "suing for license violation". Dish isn't getting sued, and in all probability is abiding by the terms of the GPL. But it's quite clear to them that the Linux community wants them to go fsck off. Wonderful advocacy that is.
For those who are not aware, the genesis of DOS began in deceipt and treachery.
You list no such deceit or treachery. All you list is Gary Kildall giving IBM the brushoff. Give credit where credit is due, the fault for CPM/86's failure in the mass market needs to be given to Mr. Kildall.
Then, Gates bought PC-DOS from Seattle Computer Products.
Nothing treacherous or deceitful about that.
An engineer, Tim Paterson, at that company had stolen the ideas of CPM/86 and created a cheap clone of it.
Thank you, Darl MacBride. Was there a patent on CPM/86? No, there wasn't, so no ideas where "stolen", because no ideas were sold. The implementation for CPM/86 itself (copyright) was not copied, modified or distributed. Hence, no "stolen" operating system.
He created a clone of CPM/86, in EXACTLY the same way Linus Torvalds created a clone of Minix/Unix. Why is Tim the thief but not Linus? Oh that's right, in your Darl MacBride world, Linus "stole" Unix. Sigh....most people have no idea that he is, in fact, the original inventor of the PC operating system.
Inventor? What a load of crap! Next you'll be telling me that AT&T/USL/Caldera/SCO were the orginal inventors of Linux!
The greatest insult was, ultimately, assigning the name "William H. Gates" to the Stanford Computer Science building.
It was William H. Gates who donated money to Stanford, not Gary Kildall. Which is why Gar Kildall doesn't have a Stanford campus building named after him. This is so bloody obvious that only a total moron would question it.
I agree. I think the Linux community is shooting themselves in the foot by pissing on every embedded systems manufacturer that decides to use Linux. Hell, not even the dominating and subjugating evil nasty nazi <gasp$gt; proprietary embedded OS vendors treat their customers like rotting pond scum. But Linux advocates do. Like a dog that's been kicked one too many times, eventually the commercial embedded users are going to look elsewhere.
Freedom of the press does NOT mean a prohibition against press criticism. No one is infringing upon Sy-Con's freedoms by bitching about the gaping absence of ethics.
Freedom of the press does NOT mean slavery for editorialists. If the senior editorial staff of LinuxWorld wish to resign, they have the freedom to do so.
Neither are they national socialists. A comparison *could* be made to fascism if one dropped enough acid before hand (and threw away the dictionary), but to nazis? No way!
To be fair, though not too fair, all the Big Three ultrasound manufacturers (Siemens, Philips, GE) started with non-mobile modalities such as CT and MRI. For these modalities, the typical installation is a large immobile embedded aquisition unit, with an imaging workstation elsewhere in the room. Using Windows on the workstation is not that big of a deal.
But ultrasound is a portable mobile modality, most with integrated imaging workstation functionality. When the Big Three consolidated the market, they didn't know what to do with ultrasound, so they're trying to make it look like CT, MRI or AX. The non-technical executives simply don't understand why we can't use the same architecture, including software, on all modalities.
All significant ultrasound lines were started by visionaries who understood the technology. Their founders were physicians and engineers. They did it because they were excited about the prospects of ultrasound. We innovated! But we all got consolidated into three faceless multinationals a few years ago, and now our corporate dictionaries say "Innovation: see Microsoft."
With Firefox, updates are full downloads. While it may be a vote of confidence to you, to most people it's just another way to lie with statistics. An update initiated by an automatic popup dialog shouldn't hold as much weight as a a user grabbing Firefox for the first time.
Installing on multiple systems, or multiple partitions on a single system, when only ONE person is using it, shouldn't count either. This is just another example of "padding the books". It may be an endorsement to you, but we're not talking about fscking endorsements, we're talking about downloads! If shoving a copy on a thumbdrive to take to work to install there doesn't count, then being *lazy* and downloading twice shouldn't count either.
Except for those using Safari, Konqueror, Opera, OmniWeb, Netscape, Mozilla, several dozen gecko-based browsers that are indistinguishable from each other, emacs in web mode, xemacs in web mode, lynx, links, other text mode browser, etc, etc.
I've seen worse. For some godforsaken reason, Windows seems to be the platform of choice for realtime embedded systems by my employer, Siemens AG. I work on medical ultrasound systems. Imagine a endorectal probe up your butt scanning your prostate, or a catheter probe up your femoral artery and scanning your heart from the inside, when a BSOD occurs. It happens. Most of our competitors aren't any better. I've seen Philips utrasound products bluescreen in the middle of an exam as well.
This is the EU's largest company, btw. Which explains why MS can give the finger to Brussels with impunity.
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I've had absolutely no problems with 5.2 and 5.3. 5.0 and 5.1 were a bit flaky, but that's long gone. There is no performance downgrade. Stop listening to the DragonFly fudsters, FreeBSD 5.x is fast and stable.
Nah, it's still meant for read-only use. Make a proper UFS2 partition for your home partition. This means you can't share one home between two operating systems though.
The big problem transitioning from 16bit to 32bit were all the kludges around 16bit limitations. These included near vs far points, overlays, and other memory related kludges. We don't have those kinds of problems any more. Low level kernel developers and those writing Big Honkin' Databases(tm) will need to worry about the transition. But most of us in userland can sleep easily.
If all of your memory needs can fit within a 32bit address space, you've got nothing to worry about.
But it doesn't explain why some of my environmentalist friends act all like their saving the earth by driving a toxic spewing beater. They don't explain away their twenty year old blue smoking sludge dripper as a result of their poverty, they explain it away as "but it's a Toyota man, it's good for the Earth!"
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Your world must be very limited if the only way you can feed your family is by sitting in one particular chair in one particular cubicle owned by one particular company somewhere in the middle of Germany.
What? Did all the Germans starve to death before IBM decided to open up an office over there? People managed to feed their families millenia before IBM ever came into being, so what makes a job at IBM an unalienable natural right that the jackboot of the state has to protect?
Hey, what if you've never had a job before, just out of school? Do you strike against IBM or Siemens? Braun or Hewlett Packard?
In that context workers have a right to do whatever it takes to ensure their livelihoods.
That "whatefver it takes" had better not include violence, or you'll have to count me as an enemy. The only legitimate use of physical violence is in response to physical violence or its threatened use. If you can't get your way with peaceful non-violent cooperation, then your way isn't worth having.
You're absolutely right. Why, I'm a COBOL programmer, and I'm so glad I work for an enlightened liberal social democrat employer who didn't lay me off when I became totally irrelevant to the industry.
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With Qt, I don't even NEED a MSDN subscription! Nyah! Besides, the price of Qt is a one-time payment, so it lasts me five years anyway.
First of all, 50 software developers kicks you out of the realm of "small business owner". But regardless whether you are small or medium, the price of Qt is per developer. So treat it as a per developer cost. This isn't a monthly, or even yearly cost, it's a one time cost.
If you think $2500 is too expensive for tools of the trade, then talk to an automechanic, or someone in the building trades. I knew a tile setter who had his van stolen, and it cost him a heck of a lot more than $2500 to replace his tools of the trade. And that's not counting the van!
KDE has several widget styles, so nothing it tying you down to Plastik. Try Phase, for example (I wrote it). Or Highcolor or Light Style. Or heck, use the Windows theme if that's what you truly prefer.
Is Qt too expensive? Not according to the market! People *ARE* buying it at that price, because sure as heck it ain't the free edition downloads that are paying their way. Trolltech is hiring, by the way. So they must be doing something right. The reason the Qt price keeps creeping upwards is because the market keeps bidding the price higher and higher.
If you're a proprietary shareware/crapware author, then look elsewhere. Trolltech has already said you're not their market. So get over it. If you are a professional developer, however, Qt is very affordable.
A friend of mine is very big into pirated music, software and video. He is almost like a pusher in his compelling need to get other people to download warez.
Quote: "Dude, why are wasting your money on a theater? I have a copy of SpiderMan II right here! Just look at it!" He then goes on to show me a 160x120 fuzzy grainy video with crappy sound.
The FSF making concessions? Hah! You must be new to the Free Software Community.
A good reason to properly quote what you're replying to.
Wow! Talk about lying! You've taken the words "he lied" and made it seem like they were in my post. But there were not. Neither were they in the post I resonded to. You are putting false words in other people's mouths. You are the one who is deceitful and treacherous. You are the one who lied.
From your link: "Patterson, tired of waiting for a version of CP/M for the 8086, cloned it."
It is not bloody obvious that cloning is synonymous with copying. In fact, referencing your link again, it's not clear that the easter egg was even present, because we're hearing about it third hand without any details from a disreputable (Dvorak).
DOS may indeed have been a derivative copyied/stolen from CP/M, but it's not bloody obvious. However, naming a building after Gates instead of Kildall *is* bloody obvious, because naming buildings after financial patrons is a thousand year old tradition in universities, while naming them after operating system authors is not.
If you don't want the deal we're offering, go someplace else.
That's exactly what I said! If you keep pissing on commercial hardware manufacturers, they WILL go someplace else!
By "pissing" I don't mean "suing for license violation". Dish isn't getting sued, and in all probability is abiding by the terms of the GPL. But it's quite clear to them that the Linux community wants them to go fsck off. Wonderful advocacy that is.
For those who are not aware, the genesis of DOS began in deceipt and treachery.
...most people have no idea that he is, in fact, the original inventor of the PC operating system.
You list no such deceit or treachery. All you list is Gary Kildall giving IBM the brushoff. Give credit where credit is due, the fault for CPM/86's failure in the mass market needs to be given to Mr. Kildall.
Then, Gates bought PC-DOS from Seattle Computer Products.
Nothing treacherous or deceitful about that.
An engineer, Tim Paterson, at that company had stolen the ideas of CPM/86 and created a cheap clone of it.
Thank you, Darl MacBride. Was there a patent on CPM/86? No, there wasn't, so no ideas where "stolen", because no ideas were sold. The implementation for CPM/86 itself (copyright) was not copied, modified or distributed. Hence, no "stolen" operating system.
He created a clone of CPM/86, in EXACTLY the same way Linus Torvalds created a clone of Minix/Unix. Why is Tim the thief but not Linus? Oh that's right, in your Darl MacBride world, Linus "stole" Unix. Sigh.
Inventor? What a load of crap! Next you'll be telling me that AT&T/USL/Caldera/SCO were the orginal inventors of Linux!
The greatest insult was, ultimately, assigning the name "William H. Gates" to the Stanford Computer Science building.
It was William H. Gates who donated money to Stanford, not Gary Kildall. Which is why Gar Kildall doesn't have a Stanford campus building named after him. This is so bloody obvious that only a total moron would question it.
I agree. I think the Linux community is shooting themselves in the foot by pissing on every embedded systems manufacturer that decides to use Linux. Hell, not even the dominating and subjugating evil nasty nazi <gasp$gt; proprietary embedded OS vendors treat their customers like rotting pond scum. But Linux advocates do. Like a dog that's been kicked one too many times, eventually the commercial embedded users are going to look elsewhere.
In two words, "so what?"
Freedom of the press does NOT mean a prohibition against press criticism. No one is infringing upon Sy-Con's freedoms by bitching about the gaping absence of ethics.
Freedom of the press does NOT mean slavery for editorialists. If the senior editorial staff of LinuxWorld wish to resign, they have the freedom to do so.
Neither are they national socialists. A comparison *could* be made to fascism if one dropped enough acid before hand (and threw away the dictionary), but to nazis? No way!
To be fair, though not too fair, all the Big Three ultrasound manufacturers (Siemens, Philips, GE) started with non-mobile modalities such as CT and MRI. For these modalities, the typical installation is a large immobile embedded aquisition unit, with an imaging workstation elsewhere in the room. Using Windows on the workstation is not that big of a deal.
But ultrasound is a portable mobile modality, most with integrated imaging workstation functionality. When the Big Three consolidated the market, they didn't know what to do with ultrasound, so they're trying to make it look like CT, MRI or AX. The non-technical executives simply don't understand why we can't use the same architecture, including software, on all modalities.
All significant ultrasound lines were started by visionaries who understood the technology. Their founders were physicians and engineers. They did it because they were excited about the prospects of ultrasound. We innovated! But we all got consolidated into three faceless multinationals a few years ago, and now our corporate dictionaries say "Innovation: see Microsoft."
With Firefox, updates are full downloads. While it may be a vote of confidence to you, to most people it's just another way to lie with statistics. An update initiated by an automatic popup dialog shouldn't hold as much weight as a a user grabbing Firefox for the first time.
Installing on multiple systems, or multiple partitions on a single system, when only ONE person is using it, shouldn't count either. This is just another example of "padding the books". It may be an endorsement to you, but we're not talking about fscking endorsements, we're talking about downloads! If shoving a copy on a thumbdrive to take to work to install there doesn't count, then being *lazy* and downloading twice shouldn't count either.
Except for those using Safari, Konqueror, Opera, OmniWeb, Netscape, Mozilla, several dozen gecko-based browsers that are indistinguishable from each other, emacs in web mode, xemacs in web mode, lynx, links, other text mode browser, etc, etc.
I've seen worse. For some godforsaken reason, Windows seems to be the platform of choice for realtime embedded systems by my employer, Siemens AG. I work on medical ultrasound systems. Imagine a endorectal probe up your butt scanning your prostate, or a catheter probe up your femoral artery and scanning your heart from the inside, when a BSOD occurs. It happens. Most of our competitors aren't any better. I've seen Philips utrasound products bluescreen in the middle of an exam as well.
This is the EU's largest company, btw. Which explains why MS can give the finger to Brussels with impunity.
I've had absolutely no problems with 5.2 and 5.3. 5.0 and 5.1 were a bit flaky, but that's long gone. There is no performance downgrade. Stop listening to the DragonFly fudsters, FreeBSD 5.x is fast and stable.
Nah, it's still meant for read-only use. Make a proper UFS2 partition for your home partition. This means you can't share one home between two operating systems though.
The big problem transitioning from 16bit to 32bit were all the kludges around 16bit limitations. These included near vs far points, overlays, and other memory related kludges. We don't have those kinds of problems any more. Low level kernel developers and those writing Big Honkin' Databases(tm) will need to worry about the transition. But most of us in userland can sleep easily.
If all of your memory needs can fit within a 32bit address space, you've got nothing to worry about.
But it doesn't explain why some of my environmentalist friends act all like their saving the earth by driving a toxic spewing beater. They don't explain away their twenty year old blue smoking sludge dripper as a result of their poverty, they explain it away as "but it's a Toyota man, it's good for the Earth!"