The tree is always organized heirarchically first, and alphabetically/date/type-oriented second.
You make this sound like it's a bad thing. But it turns out that's how I organize a lot of things in my life. Each shelf on my bookshelf is a different topic (novels, technical, calvin and hobbes, etc). That's hierarchical. It REALLY gets hierarchical if you look in my filing cabinets! Bills are filled under bills, insurance policies under insurance policies, etc.
On the other hand, the only thing I have that's space organized is my physical desktop. I have one pile that purchased CDs that I haven't listened to yet. Another pile for current documents I need to read and sign. Another for outstanding bills. And a stack of empty Dr Pepper cans.
The difference between the two kinds of organization is simple, and one that the proponents of spatial filesystems refuse to recognize, is that hierachical organization is for long term storage and spatial organization for short term stacks. Most things in my computer are for long terms storage (more than a week). Short term stuff (in my case) is organized into groups if icons on my desktop.
...and what US-recovery there has been has been called "jobless".
The "jobless" recovery is a misnomer. It was called that by the media to make good news sound like bad news, because bad news sells.
Part of the perception that the recovery is jobless is because the US had a very low unemployment figure prior to the market correction, and that unrealistic number is being used as a yardstick for the recovery. Also there was a lack of sexy $100,000 per year high tech jobs to report on.
In short, because it's not the heady days of the late 90's is why the news still talks of a bad (or at best lackluster) economy.
While I do want those things, they aren't "rights". Governement services are not rights. A right is an innate attribute of the person. It is not something that is granted by government.
A good example is free speech. Consider a nation that doesn't have laws protecting or recognizing free speech. Do the citizens of that nation have the right to free speech? If yes, then it can't be something provided by government, because in their case it hasn't been.
Of course, just because healthcare is not a right does not imply any particular means of funding or provision. Not everything the government provides is a right.
Except that he's an ex Canadian. That's a completely different breed. Sometimes I think they move to the US just so they can bitch about Republicans at close range.
especially when you realize that the social cost of eliminating those scourges is practically nil
Off topic. From what I've seen of some US cities, it doesn't matter how much you spend and how many shelters you build, homelessness will still exist. It's not a problem you throw resources at to make go away. San Fransisco is literally going bankrupt financing the most extensive social programs ever seen, yet its homeless problem continues to grow.
Talk about non sequitur! The poster was thinking of leaving the US over corporate culture, not over his inability to pirate music. Let me translate in case you don't understand:
Poster: "Housing prices are too high in the US. Should I move to Canada?"
anethemea: "Yes because they don't strip search you at the Toronto International Airport!"
When I can trivially turn off the sidebar in just about every file manager that has one, then it really doesn't have any bearing on why a spatial interface is better or worse than a non-spatial interface. It's like asserting chicken nuggets to be better than hamburgers because they don't have mustard on them.
Trolling for one desktop or the other is not the point.
For the past year I have been subjected to trolls about Gnome's usability campaign on a daily basis. This is merely my attempt to show that KDE's configurability isn't the horrible evil it's been made out to be.
What! You've got to be kidding me! Unless you're also requiring them to also fully administer their machines, this is one of the lamest ideas I've seen in months.
Just because they're developers doesn't mean they're smart, competent or even computer savvy. It certainly doesn't mean that they're trustworthy.
Teaching computers to children
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I have actually taught computers to children. There are two roads to take, all others lead to the mistakes the book uncovers.
First, use the computer as the tool it is meant to be. Use it instead of a typewriter, for example. Nothing beats a computer for teaching children how to type. It's also good for administering automatic rote quizzes. Et cetera.
Oh, and as an information tool. It shouldn't replace actual books and encyclopedias, but it makes a great adjunct reference tool. But it's use in this area needs to be monitored, or it becomes merely another "glass teat". (you don't teach kids how to multiply by giving them a calculator, so why teach them how to research by giving them the web?)
Second, use it to teach computer science. As in programming. Logo is a great learning language. Children will learn algorithms and logical thinking. For older (or brighter) students you can use a "real" high level language like Java, Python or Ruby. Or set up a small LAN to learn about networks. Or learn HTML, CSS, and ECMAscript. The trick here is that you're teaching about the computer, instead of through the computer. Of course, this requires considerable knowledge on part of the teacher.
Who needs to see the whole damn file tree at a time on the sidebar?
No one, of course. But what does this have to do with the spatial file interface? Nothing!
I'm not familiar with the 2.6 Nautilus, but I am very familiar with the Konqueror file manager. You get a choice, which is good. You choice is the default sidebar plus view, or just the view (my preference), or a split view (mc like), or even sidebar plus split view.
Konqueror will ALSO give you a spatial interface of a sort. Just configure "open folders in separate windows" (and without "open links in tabs") and you get most of what everyone is talking about.
That's the beauty of the KDE way. The user gets to decide how the user will work instead of settling for the default the developer chose (or trying to figure out from outdated and incomplete docs how to change it).
Not only is is available, it's available from *Sun* on the Companion CD. It's just as available as Gnome, but you have to wait fifteen more minutes in the install process to get it...
Furthermore, the "reporter" didn't really report anything other than his complete lack of knowledge of what Nautilus is trying to accomplish. There was no mention of spatial filesystems, their pros / cons, nothing.
Isn't that the point? The benefits of spatial file systems should be readily apparent without them having to be patiently explained to the user by the Gnome priesthood.
The user doesn't care about the theory of what Gnome is trying to accomplish. They're only concerned with what it does in practice. Evil selfish users!
Oh but does! It says something very important about Gnome as a whole. To wit, Gnome has lost sight of the trees for the forest. It's so enamored of a few self-made grand sweeping laws of usability that its destroying the actual usability in bits and pieces.
That's their purpose. I don't disagree with that. But Cisco isn't innovating here. Traditionally you could only get a patent on something that was not obvious to a practitioner in the field.
It seems to me that once this vulnerability was discovered, the fix was obvious. There was no innovation in this case.
The US business model is "open small store in neighborhood, buy inventory low, try to sell inventory high, work your butt off." As near as I can tell, that's the way every corner liquor store, pharmacy, flower shop, and bookstore in the US works. If you don't have inventory, or even a shop, you still have to work your butt off.
As I see it, it's those putting ideas under lock and key who aren't following the US business model.
I finally figured it out! It wasn't the PNG images at all, but a layout error in IE. The problem occurs with either the deprecated align tag (which was what I was using) or with CSS float. I found the following fix:
Your links all interesting. But they have nothing to do with the premise of the earlier post. Let me quote that post: "In other news everyone in the world that's seen the news in the last 2 weeks is being arrested."
None of your links does anything at all to demonstrate that anyone is being arrested for watching the news. I've not seen one story of any single person being arrested for having "seen the news in the last 2 weeks."
In other news everyone in the world that's seen the news in the last 2 weeks is being arrested.
Who the fuck moderated this as "insightful"? Do you guys really believe the shit you spew? A twisted mind with an axe to grind might moderate this as funny, but only someone living in a complete fantasy land would consider it insightful.
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The tree is always organized heirarchically first, and alphabetically/date/type-oriented second.
You make this sound like it's a bad thing. But it turns out that's how I organize a lot of things in my life. Each shelf on my bookshelf is a different topic (novels, technical, calvin and hobbes, etc). That's hierarchical. It REALLY gets hierarchical if you look in my filing cabinets! Bills are filled under bills, insurance policies under insurance policies, etc.
On the other hand, the only thing I have that's space organized is my physical desktop. I have one pile that purchased CDs that I haven't listened to yet. Another pile for current documents I need to read and sign. Another for outstanding bills. And a stack of empty Dr Pepper cans.
The difference between the two kinds of organization is simple, and one that the proponents of spatial filesystems refuse to recognize, is that hierachical organization is for long term storage and spatial organization for short term stacks. Most things in my computer are for long terms storage (more than a week). Short term stuff (in my case) is organized into groups if icons on my desktop.
Leave your personal vendettas at the
door.
Why should I be the lone Slashdot exception?
In other words, Canada doesn't waste as much of its tax dollars as the US. I can buy that!
But the healthcare still isn't free...
...and what US-recovery there has been has been called "jobless".
The "jobless" recovery is a misnomer. It was called that by the media to make good news sound like bad news, because bad news sells.
Part of the perception that the recovery is jobless is because the US had a very low unemployment figure prior to the market correction, and that unrealistic number is being used as a yardstick for the recovery. Also there was a lack of sexy $100,000 per year high tech jobs to report on.
In short, because it's not the heady days of the late 90's is why the news still talks of a bad (or at best lackluster) economy.
While I do want those things, they aren't "rights". Governement services are not rights. A right is an innate attribute of the person. It is not something that is granted by government.
A good example is free speech. Consider a nation that doesn't have laws protecting or recognizing free speech. Do the citizens of that nation have the right to free speech? If yes, then it can't be something provided by government, because in their case it hasn't been.
Of course, just because healthcare is not a right does not imply any particular means of funding or provision. Not everything the government provides is a right.
Except that he's an ex Canadian. That's a completely different breed. Sometimes I think they move to the US just so they can bitch about Republicans at close range.
especially when you realize that the social cost of eliminating those scourges is practically nil
Off topic. From what I've seen of some US cities, it doesn't matter how much you spend and how many shelters you build, homelessness will still exist. It's not a problem you throw resources at to make go away. San Fransisco is literally going bankrupt financing the most extensive social programs ever seen, yet its homeless problem continues to grow.
Talk about non sequitur! The poster was thinking of leaving the US over corporate culture, not over his inability to pirate music. Let me translate in case you don't understand:
Poster: "Housing prices are too high in the US. Should I move to Canada?"
anethemea: "Yes because they don't strip search you at the Toronto International Airport!"
Yeah, my US company used to be like that too. Then the VP got drunk, fell down, and cracked his head open...
When I can trivially turn off the sidebar in just about every file manager that has one, then it really doesn't have any bearing on why a spatial interface is better or worse than a non-spatial interface. It's like asserting chicken nuggets to be better than hamburgers because they don't have mustard on them.
Trolling for one desktop or the other is not the point.
For the past year I have been subjected to trolls about Gnome's usability campaign on a daily basis. This is merely my attempt to show that KDE's configurability isn't the horrible evil it's been made out to be.
Give _everyone_ root access.
What! You've got to be kidding me! Unless you're also requiring them to also fully administer their machines, this is one of the lamest ideas I've seen in months.
Just because they're developers doesn't mean they're smart, competent or even computer savvy. It certainly doesn't mean that they're trustworthy.
I have actually taught computers to children. There are two roads to take, all others lead to the mistakes the book uncovers.
First, use the computer as the tool it is meant to be. Use it instead of a typewriter, for example. Nothing beats a computer for teaching children how to type. It's also good for administering automatic rote quizzes. Et cetera.
Oh, and as an information tool. It shouldn't replace actual books and encyclopedias, but it makes a great adjunct reference tool. But it's use in this area needs to be monitored, or it becomes merely another "glass teat". (you don't teach kids how to multiply by giving them a calculator, so why teach them how to research by giving them the web?)
Second, use it to teach computer science. As in programming. Logo is a great learning language. Children will learn algorithms and logical thinking. For older (or brighter) students you can use a "real" high level language like Java, Python or Ruby. Or set up a small LAN to learn about networks. Or learn HTML, CSS, and ECMAscript. The trick here is that you're teaching about the computer, instead of through the computer. Of course, this requires considerable knowledge on part of the teacher.
Who needs to see the whole damn file tree at a time on the sidebar?
No one, of course. But what does this have to do with the spatial file interface? Nothing!
I'm not familiar with the 2.6 Nautilus, but I am very familiar with the Konqueror file manager. You get a choice, which is good. You choice is the default sidebar plus view, or just the view (my preference), or a split view (mc like), or even sidebar plus split view.
Konqueror will ALSO give you a spatial interface of a sort. Just configure "open folders in separate windows" (and without "open links in tabs") and you get most of what everyone is talking about.
That's the beauty of the KDE way. The user gets to decide how the user will work instead of settling for the default the developer chose (or trying to figure out from outdated and incomplete docs how to change it).
Not only is is available, it's available from *Sun* on the Companion CD. It's just as available as Gnome, but you have to wait fifteen more minutes in the install process to get it...
Furthermore, the "reporter" didn't really report anything other than his complete lack of knowledge of what Nautilus is trying to accomplish. There was no mention of spatial filesystems, their pros / cons, nothing.
Isn't that the point? The benefits of spatial file systems should be readily apparent without them having to be patiently explained to the user by the Gnome priesthood.
The user doesn't care about the theory of what Gnome is trying to accomplish. They're only concerned with what it does in practice. Evil selfish users!
it says nothing aboout Gnome as a whole
Oh but does! It says something very important about Gnome as a whole. To wit, Gnome has lost sight of the trees for the forest. It's so enamored of a few self-made grand sweeping laws of usability that its destroying the actual usability in bits and pieces.
He used to be a GNOME fanboy a few years ago. Watching his migration has been interesting.
That's their purpose. I don't disagree with that. But Cisco isn't innovating here. Traditionally you could only get a patent on something that was not obvious to a practitioner in the field.
It seems to me that once this vulnerability was discovered, the fix was obvious. There was no innovation in this case.
The US business model sucks.
The US business model is "open small store in neighborhood, buy inventory low, try to sell inventory high, work your butt off." As near as I can tell, that's the way every corner liquor store, pharmacy, flower shop, and bookstore in the US works. If you don't have inventory, or even a shop, you still have to work your butt off.
As I see it, it's those putting ideas under lock and key who aren't following the US business model.
I finally figured it out! It wasn't the PNG images at all, but a layout error in IE. The problem occurs with either the deprecated align tag (which was what I was using) or with CSS float. I found the following fix:
img.right {
position: relative;
float: right
}
Everything appears to be working now.
Your links all interesting. But they have nothing to do with the premise of the earlier post. Let me quote that post: "In other news everyone in the world that's seen the news in the last 2 weeks is being arrested."
None of your links does anything at all to demonstrate that anyone is being arrested for watching the news. I've not seen one story of any single person being arrested for having "seen the news in the last 2 weeks."
In other news everyone in the world that's seen the news in the last 2 weeks is being arrested.
Who the fuck moderated this as "insightful"? Do you guys really believe the shit you spew? A twisted mind with an axe to grind might moderate this as funny, but only someone living in a complete fantasy land would consider it insightful.
These images were created merely by loading some GIFs into GIMP and saving them as PNG. If I knew what was wrong with them I would fix it!
The right to visit your spouse in the hospital. "Family only"
That's up to the hospital. I've been able to visit many friends in the hospital, even terminally ill friends, without having to marry them.
The right to 'pull the plug' on your spouse.
Make your wishes known in advance, and someone else can. Of course, why this is considered a "benefit" is a whole other topic...
The right to inherit property from your spouse.
Write up a will. Duh!
The ability to be covered under your spouse's insurance.
Like hospitals, this is up to the insurance company. Most will allow you to specify ANYONE as the beneficiary.
...and is nearly impossible to type on any keyboard.
What's the difference between Ximian Connector and the Exchange plugin for Kontact/Korganizer? The latter's been free since day one.