SOME FUCKFACE decided to FORCE HIS OWN thoughts of ANTI religion bullshit on some dude that was basically asking what he could teach his CHILDREN'S CLASSMATES!
You mean like the silly idea about teaching evolution over creationism in biology class?
PLEASE read my posts from the beginning and try to realize why I did it.
To be honest, I can't find a single logically sound argument in any of your posts. It's all emotional ranting that we should teach our children the same things we were told regardless of the progress of knowledge contrary to previously held beliefs. I'm just glad our cavemen ancestors didn't all feel the same way as you or I'd be hunting with a club and sleeping on a rock.
I still don't get your logic. I never said once religion was evil. Actually, I believe Religion is mostly good for society as long as it allows people to behave in a moral fashion out of fear of some mythical deity when they are too weak-minded to behave morally just for the good of society. The only time I have a problem with Relision is when people start trying to shove their MYTHS down my throat as FACTS and try to pass laws that intrude on my rights and my beliefs.
Just because you might teach your kids to believe in the Tooth Fairy doesn't mean we should pass laws to make everyone believe in the Tooth Fairy. And it certainly isn't wrong for me to tell my kids the Tooth Fairy doesn't exist... or for me to expect that another grown up adult would realize the Tooth Fairy is a myth.
Religion is being pushed on me all the time and you're saying I should feel OK with being forced to indoctrinate my kids in the belief of the Tooth Fairy just because it's your tradition or I'm an asshole?
Since your eyes can only detect about 16,000 colors
Maybe your eyes only see 2^14 colors but I have absolutely terrible vision and I can still see the difference very easily between a 16-bit (65536 colors) display and a 24-bit display (16.7M). With 16,000 colors you would only be able to see about 25 steps each in R, G, and B. The human eye is capable of perceiving a much wider range than most monitors can display - in fact, it's ORDERS OF MAGNITUDE greater... from dimmer blacks (when your eyes have adjusted to night vision an all black display LCD monitor looks positively "glowing") to the harsh glare of a sunny day (your monitor doesn't get nearly this bright).
Religion is based on tradition. But it doesn't mean it's the fucking root of all evil like every toolbag on here is making it out to be.
Is it WRONG to teach kids a belief that was passed on over thousands of generations? Just because science has proven itself, should everyone just DROP religion and say "fuck it"?
Believing the world was a flat disc was based on tradition. Does that mean we should stop teaching that to kids just because science has proven it wrong? By your logic, everyone who teaches their kid the earth is spherical should be called a "toolbag".
I saw the "Dog" presentation at GDC. It was probably one of the most impressive demonstrations of a companion system I've ever seen in a game and it was in a very rough pre-alpha state at the time.
Although my post is a bit sarcastic about some of the beliefs of Christian mythology, is there any part of the post that is actually inaccurate or false in the description of the beliefs of Christianity?
I'm sure you wouldn't be as offended if I made fun of some other religion which believes that an evil alien overlord threw victims into volcanos and blew them up with nukes.
But come on, when you're following the writings of a guy three thousand years ago who went out into the desert and fasted and then had a hallucination about a talking burning bush over modern science, I have at least a little reason to poke fun at you.
OK... let me translate the tongue-in-cheek version you are calling lies and hatred on a phrase-by-phrase basis into a Church-Speak(tm) version and you tell me which part is a distortion of what many believe to be true:
Let us pray to the All-mighty God, creator of the Universe, who came down to us Himself in the form His son Jesus Christ - He who was reborn from the dead, risen so that He may cleanse us of our sins and grant us eternal life. By eating the bread that is the body of Jesus and drinking the wine that is His blood, we pray to Jesus to accept Him as our Savior, whom we worship and none other. We pray that He remove our sins, both those we have committed ourselves and the original sin Of Adam and Eve with which we were born.
I'd say the two are presenting the identical facts, albeit using slightly different terminology and phrasing... and heck, you might actually hear the second one in a church on any given Sunday.
Son... this is the honest truth about the universe:
The universe was created by an all-powerful all-knowing being who came down to us in the form of a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father who can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree.
Your little friends might laugh at you when you tell them, but trust me... pretty much all us grown-ups actually believe this is true.
For delivering 160,000 avid myspace blog-followers, he should have asked for what they pay for a single primetime TV commercial slot.. oh wait, that would cost Obama's campaign way more than $50K!
Nah, this is what happens when the only piece of Wii hardware you can find is the controller
Dude, the last three times I went by BestBuy they were out of wiimotes:( I have no idea how they're selling out of wiimotes when it's still nearly impossible to buy a Wii.
But I only want a 20 gig drive, and I liked the $100 cheaper price.
I bought my PS3 for $480 used off Craigslist. Actually it was new, still in an unopened box. I actually broke the seal on the box and took the wrappers off everything.
AND it was the 60GB version !!
If you want to save $100, there were a lot of people who bought PS3's early for "profiteering" reasons who never intended to play them or use them. Those people are selling them because they need money for other reasons and they're pretty easy to find. If you can't find one locally, there are quite a few 60GB's on E-Bay going for the $500 range ($100 off) and with the 20GB discontinued, you should be able to find them locally or on E-Bay in the $350-400 range.
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Even with a failure rate of 10% (which is extraordinary), that is still 90m iPods sold.
I've had 4 non-iPod MP3 players and my failure rate was 100%. All four of them broke -- most shortly after their 90 day warrantee. Two of them were gifts to other people and I feel bad for not buying them iPods now. One was a Creative and the other three were off-brand.
Since then, I learned my lesson. I've bought an iPod Shuffle and more recently an iPod Nano. Both work just fine and the Shuffle is about 2.5 years old.
All I can say is if people here are wondering how many iPods get bought to replace broken ones, they should certainly question how many MP3 players are bought in general to replace other ones.
BTW, hell these days you're likely to hand them the plans to manufacture your precious widget anyway. 5mins after the plans hit their desk they are being duped. Worse they might even run the production line double time - you get the products built during the day, they sell the products they built at night.
This is a hidden cost of outsourcing production to China and other countries that have weak intellectual property protection. The expertise to build products is being exported and this expertise is often used to manufacture knockoffs. It used to be cheap (as in quality) knockoffs that were easy to spot but now some of the knockoffs are nearly identical to the originals.
True... but iPods do currently make up something like 75%-80% of the market all by themselves. Thus AAC is one of the predominant portable digital music player formats even if relatively few other players support AAC.
Not to mention quite a few players support AAC without really going out of their way to bullet point it as a feature.... for example Zune players.
FWIW, ping in a CMD window won't work until after a minute passes. Something in the hotfix for the hotfix ends up delaying the availability of internet-accessing services.
"their current position is this is an isolated problem"
I have a fairly new Dell XPS600 (1 year old) and the update borked my machine due to the realtek program. I got some obscure message about how rtdcpl.exe was performing an illegal access trying to move some OCX DLL.
I was able to solve the problem by Google Searching and installing the MS hotfix. The only problem now is that "hotfix" makes it so I have to wait about 1 minute longer after I log in before I can access the internet. I used to be able to pop-up IE right away and surf but now if I do that, I get the error page for site not found for about 1 minute before things start working normally.
I don't know how isolated it can be since Dell alone has sold millions of PC's with realtek audio chipsets.
People who jog 20 miles are no more likely to become marathon runners.
If you can jog 20 miles no problem, you nearly are a marathon runner. Full marathons are only 28 miles. My friend who ran the Chicago marathon trained by jogging just 10 miles every other day for several months.
Yes normal laptops are getting cheaper -- but normal laptops can't operate in an area without electrical power. And they're certainly not kid-proofed against spilling on the keyboard, protected by a heavy clamshell against dropping or breaking, environmentally sealed to work in desert/dusty conditions, etc. By the time you're looking at a hardened laptop for rough environments, you're going to pay $3,000 or more.
I actually held one in my hands GDC earlier this month and talked to some people working on it. They're trying to get people to write games for kids on the machine.
Apparently, the units they have (at least the dev units) are not approved for general manufacture because their radiation emissions. This is pretty common for dev units. Being in the game industry I have to wonder how much radiation I've been exposed to from beta dev kits (especially one that I currently have that weighs about 70 lbs and sounds like a tornado when I turn it on).
The laptop, when booted up, goes thru the standard linux boot... starting devices and printing the familiar text. It took almost 3 minutes to boot. Considering if you pull the recharger 10 minutes to get 5 minutes of play out of it and 3 are spent on your boot, you're going to be very disappointed. Now they hope to get around by having good sleep support (suspend to non-volatile memory / flash) so you don't have to go through that boot often but lets just say that kids with the AC adapter will be much happier than the ones who have to power it themselves.
There's still A LOT of work for them to have this device ready for the masses but it did look like an interesting project and certainly the idea behind it is noble.
If you do the same thing as everyone else but do it better, you don't have to come up with anything new. What new things do you really want in a CPU?
DCAS or even better DLAR/DSC. Heck even a true LL/SC would be easier than single CAS. Taking advantage of multicore simultaneous processing on Intel/AMD and trying to write lock-free multicore code with just CAS becomes a real pain (think required GC, hazard pointers, pointer+tag, etc) to get around multiple atomic updates or even single atomic updates with ABA prevention.
Sure getting people to try open source apps is a good idea. Distributing them by silently slipping CD's under a door is a bad idea.
I worry about how many of the 400 faculty members would install software slipped under their door. If a significant portion of them install the software, then this would prove to be an easy distribution path for an evil person to set up a worm or backdoor on computers that had access to student data and grades.
The worm or backdoor could even be easily incorporated into the OSS applications since the maker of the CD has access to the source and can easily incorporate malicious features or expose a vulnerability in the app.
DMA has latency, and requires a response from the PPU on an interrupt
FWIW, it is possible for DMA to be initiated and controlled completely from the SPU's without any PPU intervention - I'm not sure if this is exposed in PS3 linux but the CELL is certainly capable of completely SPU driven DMA from a hardware perspective. In this case, the only latency is in the actual time to fetch data from main memory to local store. This is the similar to the type of stall you get with a data cache miss on a general purpose CPU while moving data from memory to l2 to l1 cache (which can be hundreds of cycles for a single cache miss). The one advantage with programming the CELL is that properly coded algorithms can double-buffer and effectively hide memory access latency to the point where it's no longer an issue. Granted you can do the same on genreal purpose CPU's with Prefetch NTA instructions.
You are right that the maximum for a single DMA transfer is 16K. However, each SPU can queue up to 16 DMA transfers so effectively, an SPU can initiate loads to its entire addressible memory and then continue without interruption or latency in waiting for one DMA to complete before the next begins.
Another interesting note is that blocking data to fit into the L1 cache (which is only between 8K-to-64K on most current CPUs) is a data optimization that helps both general purpose code and makes the code easy to port to SPU. On our last game, I rewrote the particle system inner loop to operate on much smaller chunks that would fit entirely into L1 cache and this more than doubled the speed of the particle system update loop when running on a XBOX (which is similar to a 733MHz P3).
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SOME FUCKFACE decided to FORCE HIS OWN thoughts of ANTI religion bullshit on some dude that was basically asking what he could teach his CHILDREN'S CLASSMATES!
You mean like the silly idea about teaching evolution over creationism in biology class?
PLEASE read my posts from the beginning and try to realize why I did it.
To be honest, I can't find a single logically sound argument in any of your posts. It's all emotional ranting that we should teach our children the same things we were told regardless of the progress of knowledge contrary to previously held beliefs. I'm just glad our cavemen ancestors didn't all feel the same way as you or I'd be hunting with a club and sleeping on a rock.
I still don't get your logic. I never said once religion was evil. Actually, I believe Religion is mostly good for society as long as it allows people to behave in a moral fashion out of fear of some mythical deity when they are too weak-minded to behave morally just for the good of society. The only time I have a problem with Relision is when people start trying to shove their MYTHS down my throat as FACTS and try to pass laws that intrude on my rights and my beliefs.
Just because you might teach your kids to believe in the Tooth Fairy doesn't mean we should pass laws to make everyone believe in the Tooth Fairy. And it certainly isn't wrong for me to tell my kids the Tooth Fairy doesn't exist... or for me to expect that another grown up adult would realize the Tooth Fairy is a myth.
Religion is being pushed on me all the time and you're saying I should feel OK with being forced to indoctrinate my kids in the belief of the Tooth Fairy just because it's your tradition or I'm an asshole?
Since your eyes can only detect about 16,000 colors
Maybe your eyes only see 2^14 colors but I have absolutely terrible vision and I can still see the difference very easily between a 16-bit (65536 colors) display and a 24-bit display (16.7M). With 16,000 colors you would only be able to see about 25 steps each in R, G, and B. The human eye is capable of perceiving a much wider range than most monitors can display - in fact, it's ORDERS OF MAGNITUDE greater... from dimmer blacks (when your eyes have adjusted to night vision an all black display LCD monitor looks positively "glowing") to the harsh glare of a sunny day (your monitor doesn't get nearly this bright).
Religion is based on tradition. But it doesn't mean it's the fucking root of all evil like every toolbag on here is making it out to be.
Is it WRONG to teach kids a belief that was passed on over thousands of generations? Just because science has proven itself, should everyone just DROP religion and say "fuck it"?
Believing the world was a flat disc was based on tradition. Does that mean we should stop teaching that to kids just because science has proven it wrong? By your logic, everyone who teaches their kid the earth is spherical should be called a "toolbag".
I saw the "Dog" presentation at GDC. It was probably one of the most impressive demonstrations of a companion system I've ever seen in a game and it was in a very rough pre-alpha state at the time.
Although my post is a bit sarcastic about some of the beliefs of Christian mythology, is there any part of the post that is actually inaccurate or false in the description of the beliefs of Christianity?
I'm sure you wouldn't be as offended if I made fun of some other religion which believes that an evil alien overlord threw victims into volcanos and blew them up with nukes.
But come on, when you're following the writings of a guy three thousand years ago who went out into the desert and fasted and then had a hallucination about a talking burning bush over modern science, I have at least a little reason to poke fun at you.
OK... let me translate the tongue-in-cheek version you are calling lies and hatred on a phrase-by-phrase basis into a Church-Speak(tm) version and you tell me which part is a distortion of what many believe to be true:
Let us pray to the All-mighty God, creator of the Universe, who came down to us Himself in the form His son Jesus Christ - He who was reborn from the dead, risen so that He may cleanse us of our sins and grant us eternal life. By eating the bread that is the body of Jesus and drinking the wine that is His blood, we pray to Jesus to accept Him as our Savior, whom we worship and none other. We pray that He remove our sins, both those we have committed ourselves and the original sin Of Adam and Eve with which we were born.
I'd say the two are presenting the identical facts, albeit using slightly different terminology and phrasing... and heck, you might actually hear the second one in a church on any given Sunday.
Son... this is the honest truth about the universe:
The universe was created by an all-powerful all-knowing being who came down to us in the form of a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father who can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree.
Your little friends might laugh at you when you tell them, but trust me... pretty much all us grown-ups actually believe this is true.
For John Woo / Chow Yun Fat fans, the special edition Stanglehold on PS3 will also come with the full BluRay version of the movie "Hard Boiled".
For delivering 160,000 avid myspace blog-followers, he should have asked for what they pay for a single primetime TV commercial slot.. oh wait, that would cost Obama's campaign way more than $50K!
Nah, this is what happens when the only piece of Wii hardware you can find is the controller
:( I have no idea how they're selling out of wiimotes when it's still nearly impossible to buy a Wii.
Dude, the last three times I went by BestBuy they were out of wiimotes
I don't even know what 3 billion dollars is. the number is too mind bogglingly big
It buys about a week and a half in Iraq... we're heading on 5 years... do the math.
But I only want a 20 gig drive, and I liked the $100 cheaper price.
I bought my PS3 for $480 used off Craigslist. Actually it was new, still in an unopened box. I actually broke the seal on the box and took the wrappers off everything.
AND it was the 60GB version !!
If you want to save $100, there were a lot of people who bought PS3's early for "profiteering" reasons who never intended to play them or use them. Those people are selling them because they need money for other reasons and they're pretty easy to find. If you can't find one locally, there are quite a few 60GB's on E-Bay going for the $500 range ($100 off) and with the 20GB discontinued, you should be able to find them locally or on E-Bay in the $350-400 range.
Even with a failure rate of 10% (which is extraordinary), that is still 90m iPods sold.
I've had 4 non-iPod MP3 players and my failure rate was 100%. All four of them broke -- most shortly after their 90 day warrantee. Two of them were gifts to other people and I feel bad for not buying them iPods now. One was a Creative and the other three were off-brand.
Since then, I learned my lesson. I've bought an iPod Shuffle and more recently an iPod Nano. Both work just fine and the Shuffle is about 2.5 years old.
All I can say is if people here are wondering how many iPods get bought to replace broken ones, they should certainly question how many MP3 players are bought in general to replace other ones.
BTW, hell these days you're likely to hand them the plans to manufacture your precious widget anyway. 5mins after the plans hit their desk they are being duped. Worse they might even run the production line double time - you get the products built during the day, they sell the products they built at night.
This is a hidden cost of outsourcing production to China and other countries that have weak intellectual property protection. The expertise to build products is being exported and this expertise is often used to manufacture knockoffs. It used to be cheap (as in quality) knockoffs that were easy to spot but now some of the knockoffs are nearly identical to the originals.
True... but iPods do currently make up something like 75%-80% of the market all by themselves. Thus AAC is one of the predominant portable digital music player formats even if relatively few other players support AAC.
Not to mention quite a few players support AAC without really going out of their way to bullet point it as a feature.... for example Zune players.
FWIW, ping in a CMD window won't work until after a minute passes. Something in the hotfix for the hotfix ends up delaying the availability of internet-accessing services.
"their current position is this is an isolated problem"
I have a fairly new Dell XPS600 (1 year old) and the update borked my machine due to the realtek program. I got some obscure message about how rtdcpl.exe was performing an illegal access trying to move some OCX DLL.
I was able to solve the problem by Google Searching and installing the MS hotfix. The only problem now is that "hotfix" makes it so I have to wait about 1 minute longer after I log in before I can access the internet. I used to be able to pop-up IE right away and surf but now if I do that, I get the error page for site not found for about 1 minute before things start working normally.
I don't know how isolated it can be since Dell alone has sold millions of PC's with realtek audio chipsets.
People who jog 20 miles are no more likely to become marathon runners.
If you can jog 20 miles no problem, you nearly are a marathon runner. Full marathons are only 28 miles. My friend who ran the Chicago marathon trained by jogging just 10 miles every other day for several months.
Yes normal laptops are getting cheaper -- but normal laptops can't operate in an area without electrical power. And they're certainly not kid-proofed against spilling on the keyboard, protected by a heavy clamshell against dropping or breaking, environmentally sealed to work in desert/dusty conditions, etc. By the time you're looking at a hardened laptop for rough environments, you're going to pay $3,000 or more.
I actually held one in my hands GDC earlier this month and talked to some people working on it. They're trying to get people to write games for kids on the machine.
Apparently, the units they have (at least the dev units) are not approved for general manufacture because their radiation emissions. This is pretty common for dev units. Being in the game industry I have to wonder how much radiation I've been exposed to from beta dev kits (especially one that I currently have that weighs about 70 lbs and sounds like a tornado when I turn it on).
The laptop, when booted up, goes thru the standard linux boot... starting devices and printing the familiar text. It took almost 3 minutes to boot. Considering if you pull the recharger 10 minutes to get 5 minutes of play out of it and 3 are spent on your boot, you're going to be very disappointed. Now they hope to get around by having good sleep support (suspend to non-volatile memory / flash) so you don't have to go through that boot often but lets just say that kids with the AC adapter will be much happier than the ones who have to power it themselves.
There's still A LOT of work for them to have this device ready for the masses but it did look like an interesting project and certainly the idea behind it is noble.
Your overuse of nested parenthesis in normal writing suggests to me think you're a LISP programmer.
If you do the same thing as everyone else but do it better, you don't have to come up with anything new. What new things do you really want in a CPU?
DCAS or even better DLAR/DSC. Heck even a true LL/SC would be easier than single CAS. Taking advantage of multicore simultaneous processing on Intel/AMD and trying to write lock-free multicore code with just CAS becomes a real pain (think required GC, hazard pointers, pointer+tag, etc) to get around multiple atomic updates or even single atomic updates with ABA prevention.
Sure getting people to try open source apps is a good idea. Distributing them by silently slipping CD's under a door is a bad idea.
I worry about how many of the 400 faculty members would install software slipped under their door. If a significant portion of them install the software, then this would prove to be an easy distribution path for an evil person to set up a worm or backdoor on computers that had access to student data and grades.
The worm or backdoor could even be easily incorporated into the OSS applications since the maker of the CD has access to the source and can easily incorporate malicious features or expose a vulnerability in the app.
DMA has latency, and requires a response from the PPU on an interrupt
FWIW, it is possible for DMA to be initiated and controlled completely from the SPU's without any PPU intervention - I'm not sure if this is exposed in PS3 linux but the CELL is certainly capable of completely SPU driven DMA from a hardware perspective. In this case, the only latency is in the actual time to fetch data from main memory to local store. This is the similar to the type of stall you get with a data cache miss on a general purpose CPU while moving data from memory to l2 to l1 cache (which can be hundreds of cycles for a single cache miss). The one advantage with programming the CELL is that properly coded algorithms can double-buffer and effectively hide memory access latency to the point where it's no longer an issue. Granted you can do the same on genreal purpose CPU's with Prefetch NTA instructions.
You are right that the maximum for a single DMA transfer is 16K. However, each SPU can queue up to 16 DMA transfers so effectively, an SPU can initiate loads to its entire addressible memory and then continue without interruption or latency in waiting for one DMA to complete before the next begins.
Another interesting note is that blocking data to fit into the L1 cache (which is only between 8K-to-64K on most current CPUs) is a data optimization that helps both general purpose code and makes the code easy to port to SPU. On our last game, I rewrote the particle system inner loop to operate on much smaller chunks that would fit entirely into L1 cache and this more than doubled the speed of the particle system update loop when running on a XBOX (which is similar to a 733MHz P3).