We have less people working in manufacturing but we also produce more manufactured goods, it's the nature of the automated assembly line and the advances in computer controlled machinery.
No. Only for a certain few industries, there are many many industries in the USA which are domestically run. Most of the products that will be run like that are consumer goods because customers are much more finicky about high prices and will look less into the actual value of a product and more at the price.
What matters at the end of the day is value added manufacturing which is where the USA leads.
For example, the manufacturing of Chemical Vapor Deposition machinery, yes a few of the resistors/transistors might be made in China, but they compromise a minuscule % of the overall cost of the product.
A guy making money in a poor country, what a selfish capitalist fat cat! We should give that money back to the proletariat of course, after all it belongs to them!
Yes, because Jersey Shore is the epitome of the US film industry... I guess we should pack our shit and stop producing Movies and TV shows, some/.'r just showed our whole industry is a sham with his snarky 2 liner.
Except that's patently false, US manufacturing output is much higher then it ever was before although fewer and fewer workers are employed in manufacturing. You also realize that 50%+ of Americans used to be farmers in the 1700s and now it's less than 5% right? As facilities become more automated, there will be a smaller and smaller need for manufacturing workers.
Pick the processors you want to compare and you make the decision. There are plenty of tools and resources available for the process of choosing your own components. Probably one of the best is to join a forum of avid enthusiast PC builders (No not PC gaming forums or slashdot, they're morons when it comes to choosing hardware) and ask for their input.
[blockquote] Similarly, I get the impression that even within the i3/5/7 series there's already a bit of "weirdness" hidden beyond just the "two different socket types for i7" situation. [/blockquote]
There indeed is, the LGA 1156 processors support fewer PCI express lanes than the LGA 1366, therefore if you plan on using SLI or Crossfire video cards it would ill advised to go with an LGA 1156 processor. The CPUs are actually quite different.
Either way though, I agree, the previous naming scheme Intel had for the Core 2 processors was a nightmare, the new scheme is much much better.
That's because those numbering schemes don't extend ad infinitum in a reasonable manner.
Besides, what are you going to call the new nehalem aka i7 920, a P6/2600? Because quite frankly at 2.6ghz it's faster than a 3.4ghz dual core, so would a customer get a P5/3400 or a P6/2600? Which is faster? Which is slower? You can't keep using Mhz as the sole indicator of performance hence the new model numbers.
Like I said before, It's hardly a mess, it only becomes a mess if you try to use it to compare to your ancient hardware. A i7 9xx is faster than an i7 8xx which is faster than an i5 and that again is faster than an i3.
Same exact thing with Nvidia, you go from the GT210 to the GT220, GT240, GT250, GTX 260, GTX 275, GTX 285, and GTX 295.
If you want to know the performance difference in absolute terms, there are plenty of guides that compare large rangers of CPUs and GPUs. Guru3d for example has an excellent chart for such purposes, http://www.guru3d.com/article/vga-charts-december-2009/1 Pick your game, check the chart, figure out what you're willing to pay for, done.
By HD, he is referring to a TV, not a desktop LCD so he preferably wants a gpu that has HDMI out with proper audio.
And yes, the point I was making was that the OP wasn't asking for much, he's complaining about not being able to build himself a computer to run a 4 year old game because the model numbers are too confusing.
If Intel caters to him, pretty soon we will see INTEL FAST EDITION, INTEL FASTER EDITION, INTEL SUPER FAST EDITION, INTEL HELLA SUPER FAST EDITION, INTEL HELLA SUPER FAST EDITION 2030.
A day or two if you plan on building your own computer. If you want a good performance machine, just get an Alienware machine or a computer from one of those boutiques that focus on gaming/performance. If you're trying to get the best bang for your buck, well tough you're going to have to build it yourself and spend a few days.
I would hardly consider Apple a great performance/price ratio.
Yes there is. Intel revised their system quite well, you start at the bottom with the Core i3 and move up to the Core i7. Where they messed up is by calling the i7 8xx and 9xx series i7s... They should clearly be separate since they are on a different socket.
Nvidia is fairly similiar, go from the bottom of the barrel GT210 upto a GTX295. It gets confusing however if you try to use current model numbers to reference previous gen parts...
Right, because it's so damned hard to figure out? Spend a day or two at some nice hardware review sites and you will figure out very quickly what's good and what isn't. Anandtech, Tom's Hardware, and 3DGuru are good sites imo.
Technically Time Warner Cable has different levels of IT Support technicians. If you ask for one of their higher level technicians you actually get to talk to someone who has a reasonable idea of what they're talking about.
We send a probe? We rejoice in the fact that there is life outside of Earth, that there is strong possibility we are not the only intelligent life in this Universe?
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We have less people working in manufacturing but we also produce more manufactured goods, it's the nature of the automated assembly line and the advances in computer controlled machinery.
No. Only for a certain few industries, there are many many industries in the USA which are domestically run. Most of the products that will be run like that are consumer goods because customers are much more finicky about high prices and will look less into the actual value of a product and more at the price.
What matters at the end of the day is value added manufacturing which is where the USA leads.
For example, the manufacturing of Chemical Vapor Deposition machinery, yes a few of the resistors/transistors might be made in China, but they compromise a minuscule % of the overall cost of the product.
You really don't get how tax brackets work do you?
Thanks for the econ 101 lesson, but his point that
is false and in fact the USA is the worlds largest producer of manufactured goods.
A guy making money in a poor country, what a selfish capitalist fat cat! We should give that money back to the proletariat of course, after all it belongs to them!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_exports
We are #3 behind China and Germany, who both produce 20% more than we do for exports.
As far as raw manufacturing goes, USA is far ahead in the #1 position.
http://investing.curiouscatblog.net/2008/09/23/top-manufacturing-countries-in-2007/
Fairness? You think Detroit compares to the poverty in the rest of the world? You're very delusional.
Yes, because Jersey Shore is the epitome of the US film industry... I guess we should pack our shit and stop producing Movies and TV shows, some /.'r just showed our whole industry is a sham with his snarky 2 liner.
Except that's patently false, US manufacturing output is much higher then it ever was before although fewer and fewer workers are employed in manufacturing. You also realize that 50%+ of Americans used to be farmers in the 1700s and now it's less than 5% right? As facilities become more automated, there will be a smaller and smaller need for manufacturing workers.
No way, that's not fair, if I'm going to poor then everyone will be!
Geforce 8800 is equivalent to the GT240, they're practically the same chip. No such thing as an ATI 9250 however.
Again, if you go to my link, look at the chart there, it provides a great point of reference for modern GPUs.
If you're curious about comparing CPUs, take a look at the Anandtech Bench.
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/default.aspx?b=2&c=1
Pick the processors you want to compare and you make the decision. There are plenty of tools and resources available for the process of choosing your own components. Probably one of the best is to join a forum of avid enthusiast PC builders (No not PC gaming forums or slashdot, they're morons when it comes to choosing hardware) and ask for their input.
[blockquote] Similarly, I get the impression that even within the i3/5/7 series there's already a bit of "weirdness" hidden beyond just the "two different socket types for i7" situation.
[/blockquote]
There indeed is, the LGA 1156 processors support fewer PCI express lanes than the LGA 1366, therefore if you plan on using SLI or Crossfire video cards it would ill advised to go with an LGA 1156 processor. The CPUs are actually quite different.
Either way though, I agree, the previous naming scheme Intel had for the Core 2 processors was a nightmare, the new scheme is much much better.
That's because those numbering schemes don't extend ad infinitum in a reasonable manner.
Besides, what are you going to call the new nehalem aka i7 920, a P6/2600? Because quite frankly at 2.6ghz it's faster than a 3.4ghz dual core, so would a customer get a P5/3400 or a P6/2600? Which is faster? Which is slower? You can't keep using Mhz as the sole indicator of performance hence the new model numbers.
Like I said before, It's hardly a mess, it only becomes a mess if you try to use it to compare to your ancient hardware. A i7 9xx is faster than an i7 8xx which is faster than an i5 and that again is faster than an i3.
Same exact thing with Nvidia, you go from the GT210 to the GT220, GT240, GT250, GTX 260, GTX 275, GTX 285, and GTX 295.
If you want to know the performance difference in absolute terms, there are plenty of guides that compare large rangers of CPUs and GPUs. Guru3d for example has an excellent chart for such purposes, http://www.guru3d.com/article/vga-charts-december-2009/1 Pick your game, check the chart, figure out what you're willing to pay for, done.
By HD, he is referring to a TV, not a desktop LCD so he preferably wants a gpu that has HDMI out with proper audio.
And yes, the point I was making was that the OP wasn't asking for much, he's complaining about not being able to build himself a computer to run a 4 year old game because the model numbers are too confusing.
If Intel caters to him, pretty soon we will see INTEL FAST EDITION, INTEL FASTER EDITION, INTEL SUPER FAST EDITION, INTEL HELLA SUPER FAST EDITION, INTEL HELLA SUPER FAST EDITION 2030.
A day or two if you plan on building your own computer. If you want a good performance machine, just get an Alienware machine or a computer from one of those boutiques that focus on gaming/performance. If you're trying to get the best bang for your buck, well tough you're going to have to build it yourself and spend a few days.
I would hardly consider Apple a great performance/price ratio.
Yes, well you're not the guy trying to play a game from 2006 on an HD monitor now are you?
Yes there is. Intel revised their system quite well, you start at the bottom with the Core i3 and move up to the Core i7. Where they messed up is by calling the i7 8xx and 9xx series i7s... They should clearly be separate since they are on a different socket.
Nvidia is fairly similiar, go from the bottom of the barrel GT210 upto a GTX295. It gets confusing however if you try to use current model numbers to reference previous gen parts...
Right, because it's so damned hard to figure out? Spend a day or two at some nice hardware review sites and you will figure out very quickly what's good and what isn't. Anandtech, Tom's Hardware, and 3DGuru are good sites imo.
Actually, if you're willing to over clock, the i7 920 is quite a bit faster than the i7 870...
Technically Time Warner Cable has different levels of IT Support technicians. If you ask for one of their higher level technicians you actually get to talk to someone who has a reasonable idea of what they're talking about.
What if they excrete through their entire body?
You're a rather silly person to assume they have a "butt."
Don't forget your own arrogance in assuming the Aliens do not believe in Gods or have their own religions.
Who ever said the probe had to land on the planet?
We send a probe? We rejoice in the fact that there is life outside of Earth, that there is strong possibility we are not the only intelligent life in this Universe?
Also prepare for our new overlords.