Right, the RIAA didn't win $3,500, they extorted $3,500 with the threat of a costly lawsuit with the possible punishment of $135 million. This is exactly what I said I had a problem with. If they went to court and were awarded the $3,500, I would say that justice had been served. But they threatened someone with the law (much like the Scientologists do), and that is not right.
IP-Hijacking. Prove it? I don't have anything to prove, I'm innocent. If you think otherwise, YOU prove it.
Also, by the way, which legally recognized governmental agency were you working with to collect the data you gained about me? How are we to know you didn't just make up a list of IP addresses and content?
Isn't the nature of punishment in these cases to deter the perpetrator from commiting the crime again, not threatening to destroy their life with monetary charges that they could never possibly hope to repay?
I think that $3,500 is fair. If they went to court and won that amount, I would consider it fair. But extorting money from a 15 year old girl is just as bad as downloading 1,100 songs, if not much worse.
First they sue a 12 year old girl, and now a 15 year old girl. Is their new plan of attack to sue the only portion of their demographic that are still buying CDs?
We need to go back to the moon, it is imperative. We have to develop a new, low-cost, extremely sage transportation vehicle to get there as well. I'm glad we built the space shuttle. It gave us a lot of good technologies, and it also showed us what happens when you try to make one all-encompassing vehicle.
We should take our second conquest of the moon in phases:
1. (2004-2006) Design phase. Moon base designed and built on earth. New space vehicle designed and tested.
2. (2007-2008) Shipments of moon base go to the moon via rocket (sans humans). New space vehicle built and ready to fly.
3. (2009) First human mission back to the moon. Ten or so rockets with moon base materials have already arrived, and crew begins to assemble base.
4. (2011) Moon base finished. Moon base houses up to 25 humans at a time (with design such that this can be updated and upgraded at will). Space vehicle has a total trip time of one week (2.5 days there and back each, one day rest). Turnaround time on earth is one week. Ship can hold seven crew and very (sub 200-300lbs) small payload.
The moon base will be the new home to all research projects. Moon rover vehicles can be designed by engineers actually working on the moon, with schematics sent to earth, and the new rover(s) sent us in parts over 3-4 missions.
Also, the next generation of space vehicles can be designed, but here is the best part: you don't have to put any energy into escaping earth's pull of gravity. Everything will be launched from our new moon base. This is at least 10-15 years down the line, but the possibilities are endless. Maybe a ship that takes advantage of a maglev track built across 3 miles of the moon that can shoot our new ship off at extremely fast speeds with almost no energy required. That way, all energy on the ship can be used for flight corrections and other things.
This really is our future in space. If we decide to go to Mars, instead of the moon, get ready for another 25 years of lofty goals. It will be no different from when the space shuttle was first started. There is no reason to go to Mars yet. We can't get there in a good amount of time. Its (a lot moreso than the moon) dangerous to get there. And once we're there, the distance is so prohibitive that it makes Mars no more useful than the moon was 35 years ago. We can get a few samples, place a flag, but that's it. The moon can be our first true continuous presence in space (what'd you say? Space Station. Feh.).
Finally, the Chinese WILL be going to the moon. I read this premise on/. a few weeks ago. Think about a Taikonaut jetting to the moon, and softly touching down. He gets out of his ship, bounces around a bit, goes over to the American flag, pulls it out of the ground, throws it to the side, and plants a Chinese flag.
To me more than anything, that would show the end of American dominance in space. Personally, I'd like it so that when (if) our flag is displanted, we can just hop in our rover and go put it back up 10 minutes later. Or better yet, have a rover ready to meet our (hopefully) new Chinese friends when they arrive on the moon for the first time, and invite them to fill up the two empty spots in our rover to come over to our moon base and share a dinner.
Are you sure EVERY SINGLE AMERICAN has to fork over $3,480.00? First of all, I'm sure you must have meant every United States citizen. So lets look at it that way.
You propose:
Every single citizen must pay $3,480
Bush's proposed money for Iraq: $87 billion.
Current US population: 292,388,125
292,388,125 x $3480 = $1,017,510,675,000
or roughly $1.01 trillion.
When last I checked, $87 billion != $1.01 trillion.
Maybe you should re-check your math there, buddy. It looks to be a bit fuzzy.
The US "lost" the Vietnam war (if you want to call it a loss) because it became politically unfavorable in our own country. The military was not allowed to do many of the things necessary to successfully fight a war. The same thing will happen in Iraq only if the same thing that happened in Vietnam happens again (which hopefully for the citizens of Iraq, it won't).
Has France made one good decision in the last 100 years?
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We took care of it I think. I had him outline everything that he wanted, and I just wrote a new EULA (I'm a native English speaker in case you couldn't tell, hopefully you could!). So it should clear up some confusion on the next release.
The other thing people have to remember is that, currently, this is an amateur project. No one is making any money (aside from the 30 or so odd CDs that Robert has sold). Work is done by volunteers (Robert, GUI Team), website and bandwidth cost money out of pockets that doesn't get replaced by revenues. So when people attack us and say that the EULA is a gross violation of the GPL and they are going to have FSF lawyers look through it etc, etc, that is kind of hurtful. I guess I can't understand why it seems like some people (albeit a minority) seem to WANT the OS to fail before it even gets off the ground. Its a shame, really.
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Hello, this is Hexydes. I'm the leader of the GUI Design Team for SkyOS. I just wanted to clear up some confustion from the posts I've been reading:
1. SkyOS does not run Windows apps. Any Windows apps you have seen running in the GUI CONTEST are for imaginative design purposes only. Think of them as placeholders for generic software.
2. In regards to the EULA; the EULA was written by Robert (coder for SkyOS), whose main language is not English. He included the EULA in hopes that he could simply give some extra information about the OS, as well as to take a step towards legality (which we will of course encounter in the future). Youlle simply added some last minute touch ups to try to help out.
SkyOS is not open source. Robert has worked on the OS for 6 years. He wants to keep the code for himself to work on, and if you can't respect that, then go use Linux. The inclusion about the GPL aspects in the EULA was simply his attempt to make it known that just because some GPL'd apps were included in the SkyOS package, it did not make SkyOS open source. Any GPL'd code he modified he will gladly send to anyone that wants it (though I don't think he modified much). There is also unmodified software included, which was simply ported to the OS (the media player....a few other things I can't think of). Those you can simply download from their respective websites (which is the message he was trying to convey).
Robert holds the GPL in high regards and was never trying to augment it in any way. He simply wanted to make it known that the OS did not use GPL'd code, and that the simple inclusion of GPL'd software did not make the OS open source.
*PHEW*
3. The contest was open to everyone. 35 designers sent in designs, and I posted all of them. They are now being voted on. The top three will make it to round two. A winner will be decided from that list. After that, the GUI Team will be taking the design and polishing it up and getting it ready for Robert to code in. In addition to this, there will be new wallpapers, a new software installation interface, new icons, and a new OS installation interface. This will all be included for version 5.0 of SkyOS, which will be the next release.
If you have any questions, don't hesitate to visit the GUI Design Contest forum, located at:
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Right, the RIAA didn't win $3,500, they extorted $3,500 with the threat of a costly lawsuit with the possible punishment of $135 million. This is exactly what I said I had a problem with. If they went to court and were awarded the $3,500, I would say that justice had been served. But they threatened someone with the law (much like the Scientologists do), and that is not right.
Also, by the way, which legally recognized governmental agency were you working with to collect the data you gained about me? How are we to know you didn't just make up a list of IP addresses and content?
I think that $3,500 is fair. If they went to court and won that amount, I would consider it fair. But extorting money from a 15 year old girl is just as bad as downloading 1,100 songs, if not much worse.
First they sue a 12 year old girl, and now a 15 year old girl. Is their new plan of attack to sue the only portion of their demographic that are still buying CDs?
Does anyone else find it ironic that everyone here is using Supernova to download a program in the.....Nova series?
Better watch out! Mr.Nemitz is going to call dibs on Uranus next!
What is the fine this sort of a thing?
We should take our second conquest of the moon in phases:
1. (2004-2006) Design phase. Moon base designed and built on earth. New space vehicle designed and tested.
2. (2007-2008) Shipments of moon base go to the moon via rocket (sans humans). New space vehicle built and ready to fly.
3. (2009) First human mission back to the moon. Ten or so rockets with moon base materials have already arrived, and crew begins to assemble base.
4. (2011) Moon base finished. Moon base houses up to 25 humans at a time (with design such that this can be updated and upgraded at will). Space vehicle has a total trip time of one week (2.5 days there and back each, one day rest). Turnaround time on earth is one week. Ship can hold seven crew and very (sub 200-300lbs) small payload.
The moon base will be the new home to all research projects. Moon rover vehicles can be designed by engineers actually working on the moon, with schematics sent to earth, and the new rover(s) sent us in parts over 3-4 missions.
Also, the next generation of space vehicles can be designed, but here is the best part: you don't have to put any energy into escaping earth's pull of gravity. Everything will be launched from our new moon base. This is at least 10-15 years down the line, but the possibilities are endless. Maybe a ship that takes advantage of a maglev track built across 3 miles of the moon that can shoot our new ship off at extremely fast speeds with almost no energy required. That way, all energy on the ship can be used for flight corrections and other things.
This really is our future in space. If we decide to go to Mars, instead of the moon, get ready for another 25 years of lofty goals. It will be no different from when the space shuttle was first started. There is no reason to go to Mars yet. We can't get there in a good amount of time. Its (a lot moreso than the moon) dangerous to get there. And once we're there, the distance is so prohibitive that it makes Mars no more useful than the moon was 35 years ago. We can get a few samples, place a flag, but that's it. The moon can be our first true continuous presence in space (what'd you say? Space Station. Feh.).
Finally, the Chinese WILL be going to the moon. I read this premise on /. a few weeks ago. Think about a Taikonaut jetting to the moon, and softly touching down. He gets out of his ship, bounces around a bit, goes over to the American flag, pulls it out of the ground, throws it to the side, and plants a Chinese flag.
To me more than anything, that would show the end of American dominance in space. Personally, I'd like it so that when (if) our flag is displanted, we can just hop in our rover and go put it back up 10 minutes later. Or better yet, have a rover ready to meet our (hopefully) new Chinese friends when they arrive on the moon for the first time, and invite them to fill up the two empty spots in our rover to come over to our moon base and share a dinner.
You propose:
Every single citizen must pay $3,480
Bush's proposed money for Iraq: $87 billion.
Current US population: 292,388,125
292,388,125 x $3480 = $1,017,510,675,000 or roughly $1.01 trillion.
When last I checked, $87 billion != $1.01 trillion.
Maybe you should re-check your math there, buddy. It looks to be a bit fuzzy.
The US "lost" the Vietnam war (if you want to call it a loss) because it became politically unfavorable in our own country. The military was not allowed to do many of the things necessary to successfully fight a war. The same thing will happen in Iraq only if the same thing that happened in Vietnam happens again (which hopefully for the citizens of Iraq, it won't).
I guess France is lucky we were "paranoid" during World War II.
Has France made one good decision in the last 100 years?
We took care of it I think. I had him outline everything that he wanted, and I just wrote a new EULA (I'm a native English speaker in case you couldn't tell, hopefully you could!). So it should clear up some confusion on the next release. The other thing people have to remember is that, currently, this is an amateur project. No one is making any money (aside from the 30 or so odd CDs that Robert has sold). Work is done by volunteers (Robert, GUI Team), website and bandwidth cost money out of pockets that doesn't get replaced by revenues. So when people attack us and say that the EULA is a gross violation of the GPL and they are going to have FSF lawyers look through it etc, etc, that is kind of hurtful. I guess I can't understand why it seems like some people (albeit a minority) seem to WANT the OS to fail before it even gets off the ground. Its a shame, really.
1. SkyOS does not run Windows apps. Any Windows apps you have seen running in the GUI CONTEST are for imaginative design purposes only. Think of them as placeholders for generic software.
2. In regards to the EULA; the EULA was written by Robert (coder for SkyOS), whose main language is not English. He included the EULA in hopes that he could simply give some extra information about the OS, as well as to take a step towards legality (which we will of course encounter in the future). Youlle simply added some last minute touch ups to try to help out.
SkyOS is not open source. Robert has worked on the OS for 6 years. He wants to keep the code for himself to work on, and if you can't respect that, then go use Linux. The inclusion about the GPL aspects in the EULA was simply his attempt to make it known that just because some GPL'd apps were included in the SkyOS package, it did not make SkyOS open source. Any GPL'd code he modified he will gladly send to anyone that wants it (though I don't think he modified much). There is also unmodified software included, which was simply ported to the OS (the media player....a few other things I can't think of). Those you can simply download from their respective websites (which is the message he was trying to convey).
Robert holds the GPL in high regards and was never trying to augment it in any way. He simply wanted to make it known that the OS did not use GPL'd code, and that the simple inclusion of GPL'd software did not make the OS open source.
*PHEW*
3. The contest was open to everyone. 35 designers sent in designs, and I posted all of them. They are now being voted on. The top three will make it to round two. A winner will be decided from that list. After that, the GUI Team will be taking the design and polishing it up and getting it ready for Robert to code in. In addition to this, there will be new wallpapers, a new software installation interface, new icons, and a new OS installation interface. This will all be included for version 5.0 of SkyOS, which will be the next release.
If you have any questions, don't hesitate to visit the GUI Design Contest forum, located at:
http://www.nathanpalmer.com/skyos/phpBB2/index.php
Hope that helps!
Hexydes