You have no idea what you're talking about. Its sad that you would parade around your claims as if they were facts.
We have talked to the FSF, and they are perfectly fine with our project. We also talked to any developers whose code we used in included applications, and any ones we were able to contact were also fine with the situation.
In fact, the ONLY people who have had a problem with things regarding the GPL are a few random users on Slashdot. The FSF is fine with us. Developers are fine with us. 99% of users are fine with us. Why do you have such a problem with our project? We aren't breaking any part of the GPL purposely. Robert accidentally does not have the source for the 4.0 applications available any more (as he uses them to develop to the 5.0 applications), and we've already cleared all of that up with the developers and the FSF. When we release 5.0, we will also be releasing the source to GPL applications.
As far as the kernel and underlying parts of the system go, 95% of that is code that Robert has written, the rest uses BSD.
I really wish a few people would stop looking for ways to attack our project.
Uhm, I'm pretty sure I was making a joke, hence the ASCII emoticon, but apparently you didn't understand. So to make myself more clear, we're aware that Slashdot takes up a lot of bandwidth when your site gets posted, and we're working on getting a mirror.
Because the story came back to me as rejected and I put it out of my mind. Then all of a sudden our site wasn't working anymore, and we had to figure out what happened (which didn't take long), and now we're trying to find a solution.
The said this thing would be out in late 2002, early 2003, late 2003, early 2004, and now late 2004. Who cares? They said the price was going to be $800. Then $1,000. Now $2,000. Who cares?
Neat idea, but the company really sucks at delivering. At least update your webpage. They are only 3 months away from not updating it in 2 years. That's just pathetic. They need to invest in some more resources and a PR team.
Every time I watch a trailer for Peter Pan, I always say to myself "Wow, that looks REALLY fake!" I think even Hook (with Robin Williams) looked more realistic, and that was 10 years ago!
Why don't you go do a little reserach? There have been many studies done on this, going all the way back to the 1960s. I'm not going to do your research for you, I already know the statistic. If you feel like learning about it, check out this url:
Why would you badmouth Bush? He is at least trying to get things going with space. Who cares if they don't come to fruition? Its really not up to him, all he can do is try to get the ball rolling and hope that Congress will alot money for the program to be carried through.
Unless you are actually AGAINST space exploration, why would you ever speak ill of someone trying to inspire people to become interested, especially at a time when the future of space exploration in America is in more doubt than ever.
I would just like to add on to JBN's statement, because he is not altogether speaking the truth.
He failed to mention that we (the SkyOS developers) have been in contact with a number of developers whose code we used in a few of the apps we include in SkyOS. None of them had an issue with our plan. This plan includes us making available source for the GPL apps upon release of SkyOS 5.0. Robert did not delete the source code, he is using the source from SkyOS 4 to build the applications for SkyOS 5.0. He did not retain a copy of the earlier applications' source because he did not know he had to. Now that he knows this, we will make sure to keep the source for the current available binary available until the next release. The only three people that have had a problem with this are Adam, Chris, and JBN. We have not received a request to stop binary distribution from any of the actual GPL app developers (and I hope we will not, that they will be as understanding as the other teams we HAVE contacted).
Adam's comments were removed because he was continuously spamming our forums, along with OSNews and Slashdot, with threats like "I highly suggest that Robert either start following the licenses he's using, or remove any GPL software before the FSF gets involved." and "If you, or Robert, or anyone thinks that I'm impatient, just imagine how impatient the FSF is going to be when they come asking for the modified grub source." Does this sound like the comments of someone whose only intentions are to help a small project better understand a license, or someone who is hoping gleefully for failure? And now you, JBN, come along and make insinuations that we have purposely tried to lock people out of access of the GPL source code for apps. You said that we "(probably inadvertantly) deleted" our source code. You were personally told that we did not delete it, that we did not have it anymore, and we will do our best to get the new version out ASAP. Why are you now going to Slashdot (and who knows where else) trying to hurt our image by suggesting that there is a possibility that we purposely are trying to violate the GPL?
I had my suspicions about these three peoples' intentions. I was hoping that they were just trying to help us become GPL comliant. It saddens me to read this post and see that their true intention is to force us to remove our free OS download until we release SkyOS 5.0. I think it is a real shame that they harbor such harsh feelings towards our project. I suppose that is the thanks we get for trying our best to do the right thing.
We (on the SkyOS team) are (at least in my opinion) some of the most accessible people that are a part of any project. We like letting people know what is going on, and what we are doing. I think that it has really worked out well so far. Unfortunately, there are people like you, Adam, and Chris that are willing to exploit that accessibility. Luckily, we knew you were out there, and we don't have anything to fear from you because we are trying to do the right thing. This shows because of the support from almost everyone else that commented on our forums, and also the groups whose code we use that tell us our plan is reasonable and wish us luck in the future. Its too bad you can't find the same mindset as the people you are trying to "protect".
Are you sure SkyOS is violating the GPL? There is a written offer for the source code available here.
While SkyOS 4.0 does not include a written offer for the source code (as the author of SkyOS was not aware he had to do this), SkyOS 5.0 will include such an offer.
Looks like SkyOS is pretty much GPL compliant....are you sure you're not just trolling?
The reason BeOS died is the same reason OS/2 died. The parent company didn't care about it at all and didn't see it as very important.
Be was so concerned about their BeIA portable decice system or whatever it was, that BeOS always too second place.
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You know why? Because none of you wants to pay for your software. Sure, a few of you might, but honestly ask yourself, have you bought a copy of Linux? Or did you just download the ISO? What is the main advantage of Linux? Stability? No, Windows XP is, for the most part, very stable (don't give me your personal story about BSD and everything else, XP is pretty stable). Security? Sure, Linux is a bit more secure, but it doesn't mean that Windows isn't secure. Remember, Windows has 95% of the desktop users in the world. Why would someone want to spend time writing viruses for an OS that only have 2% of all users? If Linux were bigger, some more viruses and security issues would pop up.
So what is Linux's main selling point? Price. Namely, Linux costs nothing, unless you feel like donating money to the distributor in the form of buying the retail version of their distro. The problem: nobody does this. Just look at any of the distros. Lycoris is having problems making money. Mandrake had to go chapter 11 because of sales. Redhat had to stop their desktop distro and concentrate only on servers. When people look to use Linux, they don't look at it (mainly) for its security, or its stability, they look at it because its free. Which is good for them, but bad for the company that has to make the distro.
Until you people are willing to put some capital investment into Linux distros, Microsoft is going to be able to keep Linux under its thumb.
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We have talked to the FSF, and they are perfectly fine with our project. We also talked to any developers whose code we used in included applications, and any ones we were able to contact were also fine with the situation.
In fact, the ONLY people who have had a problem with things regarding the GPL are a few random users on Slashdot. The FSF is fine with us. Developers are fine with us. 99% of users are fine with us. Why do you have such a problem with our project? We aren't breaking any part of the GPL purposely. Robert accidentally does not have the source for the 4.0 applications available any more (as he uses them to develop to the 5.0 applications), and we've already cleared all of that up with the developers and the FSF. When we release 5.0, we will also be releasing the source to GPL applications.
As far as the kernel and underlying parts of the system go, 95% of that is code that Robert has written, the rest uses BSD.
I really wish a few people would stop looking for ways to attack our project.
When you move your mouse cursor over the icons, a picture appears inside of the icon that is more representative of its function.
Thank you very much, I'll be here all night. Try the shrimp!
You had a vacuum? All I got was a broom and a dust pan. *weeping*
http://skymirror.nathanpalmer.com
Uhm, I'm pretty sure I was making a joke, hence the ASCII emoticon, but apparently you didn't understand. So to make myself more clear, we're aware that Slashdot takes up a lot of bandwidth when your site gets posted, and we're working on getting a mirror.
Because the story came back to me as rejected and I put it out of my mind. Then all of a sudden our site wasn't working anymore, and we had to figure out what happened (which didn't take long), and now we're trying to find a solution.
http://skyos.lynx-tech.biz
QUIT STEALING OUR BANDWIDTH! =D
Neat idea, but the company really sucks at delivering. At least update your webpage. They are only 3 months away from not updating it in 2 years. That's just pathetic. They need to invest in some more resources and a PR team.
While the article may say that this is just a simple LED apartment, this is actually the new version of "The House of Tomorrow" at Disneyworld.
It all depends where you live. In Flint, all the theaters suck. But near Lansing, there's some great theaters (Celebration is nice, NCG is GREAT).
Best non-sequel game: Final Fantasy.
Bury it in the basement, next to the bodies!
Every time I watch a trailer for Peter Pan, I always say to myself "Wow, that looks REALLY fake!" I think even Hook (with Robin Williams) looked more realistic, and that was 10 years ago!
You're so far left that even when other people are to the left, you see them as being to the right. And that's the problem.
http://www.google.com
If the media is not liberal, why do the majority of them (90%) consistently vote for Democrats?
Unless you are actually AGAINST space exploration, why would you ever speak ill of someone trying to inspire people to become interested, especially at a time when the future of space exploration in America is in more doubt than ever.
Really lame.
He failed to mention that we (the SkyOS developers) have been in contact with a number of developers whose code we used in a few of the apps we include in SkyOS. None of them had an issue with our plan. This plan includes us making available source for the GPL apps upon release of SkyOS 5.0. Robert did not delete the source code, he is using the source from SkyOS 4 to build the applications for SkyOS 5.0. He did not retain a copy of the earlier applications' source because he did not know he had to. Now that he knows this, we will make sure to keep the source for the current available binary available until the next release. The only three people that have had a problem with this are Adam, Chris, and JBN. We have not received a request to stop binary distribution from any of the actual GPL app developers (and I hope we will not, that they will be as understanding as the other teams we HAVE contacted).
Adam's comments were removed because he was continuously spamming our forums, along with OSNews and Slashdot, with threats like "I highly suggest that Robert either start following the licenses he's using, or remove any GPL software before the FSF gets involved." and "If you, or Robert, or anyone thinks that I'm impatient, just imagine how impatient the FSF is going to be when they come asking for the modified grub source." Does this sound like the comments of someone whose only intentions are to help a small project better understand a license, or someone who is hoping gleefully for failure? And now you, JBN, come along and make insinuations that we have purposely tried to lock people out of access of the GPL source code for apps. You said that we "(probably inadvertantly) deleted" our source code. You were personally told that we did not delete it, that we did not have it anymore, and we will do our best to get the new version out ASAP. Why are you now going to Slashdot (and who knows where else) trying to hurt our image by suggesting that there is a possibility that we purposely are trying to violate the GPL?
I had my suspicions about these three peoples' intentions. I was hoping that they were just trying to help us become GPL comliant. It saddens me to read this post and see that their true intention is to force us to remove our free OS download until we release SkyOS 5.0. I think it is a real shame that they harbor such harsh feelings towards our project. I suppose that is the thanks we get for trying our best to do the right thing.
We (on the SkyOS team) are (at least in my opinion) some of the most accessible people that are a part of any project. We like letting people know what is going on, and what we are doing. I think that it has really worked out well so far. Unfortunately, there are people like you, Adam, and Chris that are willing to exploit that accessibility. Luckily, we knew you were out there, and we don't have anything to fear from you because we are trying to do the right thing. This shows because of the support from almost everyone else that commented on our forums, and also the groups whose code we use that tell us our plan is reasonable and wish us luck in the future. Its too bad you can't find the same mindset as the people you are trying to "protect".
While SkyOS 4.0 does not include a written offer for the source code (as the author of SkyOS was not aware he had to do this), SkyOS 5.0 will include such an offer.
Looks like SkyOS is pretty much GPL compliant....are you sure you're not just trolling?
I think that that's what was really keeping the Segways from taking off. =)
Be was so concerned about their BeIA portable decice system or whatever it was, that BeOS always too second place.
So what is Linux's main selling point? Price. Namely, Linux costs nothing, unless you feel like donating money to the distributor in the form of buying the retail version of their distro. The problem: nobody does this. Just look at any of the distros. Lycoris is having problems making money. Mandrake had to go chapter 11 because of sales. Redhat had to stop their desktop distro and concentrate only on servers. When people look to use Linux, they don't look at it (mainly) for its security, or its stability, they look at it because its free. Which is good for them, but bad for the company that has to make the distro.
Until you people are willing to put some capital investment into Linux distros, Microsoft is going to be able to keep Linux under its thumb.
When will Cyrix be coming out with their next big thing?!