Sorry, an article from appleinsider.com full of quotes from Tim Cook (and only Tim Cook, not a single outside analyst) doesn't hold much merit. It's marketing, not fact or news.
As for your other "source", it doesn't support your claims at all.
> Coulling believes that tablets will continue to pressure PC and notebook sales "in the short term,"
How exactly does an analyst predicting short term pressure on the PC market translate into the iPad eliminating the PC market? Where do you people come up with this crap?
Also interesting that both of your sources are from 10 months ago. Maybe that's because more recent numbers show a decline in iPad sales?
While I agree with the sentiment mostly, DEMANDing security is not in the spirit of that quote. Freedom comes with responsibility, not security. You really cannot have freedom in a perfectly safe system, that is precisely why the quote talks about trading one for the other. The very power and flexibility that lets you experiment also lets you do stupid things that compromise security. Rather than demanding things, I think it's high time we accept that personal education and personal responsibility are the only way to provide both freedom and the safety that a walled garden claims to provide.
...a laptop for example is essentially the same as a tablet except that a laptop can run the software businesses have spent the last 30 years developing, and the tablet can't
"...a common opinion that, now that Apple is the largest personal computer manufacturer, a loss of sales combined with Apple's iPad will completely eliminate most of them."
How on earth can someone describe the opinion that Apple's tablet is going to "completely eliminate" most PC manufacturers as "common"? (!?!)
Only someone who ignores reality completely could come to such a misguided conclusion... let me guess.. big Apple fan?
News flash: nearly 90 million PCs sold in Q3. 8 times the number of tablets sold. The PC is already commonplace and suffers from it's own success in that they have become so reliable and so capable that upgrades and replacements just aren't that common. The tablet is brand new and new models with compelling improvements come out every few months. Yet still we see massively more PCs sold than tablets.
A single manufacturer of tablets is going to completely eliminate the PC industry?
I don't really see the size limit being a way to force you to use Google services.. as far as I've seen Google allows you to pull in content using pretty much any mechanism you desire with no preference to their own services (other than having their own stuff pre-installed I guess). There are tons of third party content services... I stream lots of audio and watch some video, never signed up for any Google service (pandora, tune in radio, etc). Also just map to my local samba shares, which makes my entire home library available quite easily.
OK I get it (and thanks for the polite answers , realize now I should.have guessed the answer to my own query).
It seems to be not apps but offline media storage that ppl need the larger storage for, or maybe for some massive games. I guess maybe my usage is atypical as I don't (or havent yet) take the nexus anywhere that I need media and don't have wifi. Just wasn't thinking along those lines at all
out of curiosity, what did you fill up 8gb with? I went for the 16gb version of the nexus 7 and after 2 months and literally hundreds of apps have only 2gb used, thinking I should have saved the $50 and got the 8gb version.
> The argument is like saying, "well, the average COBOL programmer costs quite a bit more than the average C programmer... > clearly we should go where the talent is and program in COBOL!"
No, unless you include in your comparison the part where C costs hundreds of thousands of dollars in licensing fees and COBOL is completely free.
As the real choice is between paying for licensing *and* and competent admin or simply paying for a competent admin, you argument seems mostly like fail.
what innovation? outside of the RDF, Apple's devices contained nothing but existing technology, much of which in fact was invented by the very companies they are now abusing the legal system to harm.
The key is to find a place where you can work unseen to create your own horrible code with the hopes that in time you too will become the stuff of legend.
The OP obviously is not "hacked". That doesn't make the first bit of sense. Even if the problem wasn't presenting on *two different devices*, why in god's name would any 'hacker' disable your WIFI (and only at your own home). What is the possible motivation for this imaginary criminal mastermind who has invested their time in ruining your WIFI when you are at home? Is he perhaps funded by The Others in a plot to steal your mind waves???
Or maybe... just maybe... (and I know, I'm reaching here)... YOUR ACCESS POINT IS BROKEN, OR HAS BEEN CONFIGURED TO BLOCK THESE DEVICES??? It's just a theory based on the fact that two different devices work fine with every other access point, but not this one. Wild, I know.
How did the editors not notice that this is complete ignorant crap?
By the same logic used to sue Google, spammers would now be entitled to damages from every anti-spam service and device in the world. At $500 per email, that's one hell of a payoff for those bastards.
Intelligent people consider the offer on hand, make sure they understand what is offered by both parties, and decide whether or not to agree to the terms. For many people Google's email offering is an appealing win-win.
We had a decent sized lab of cheap (well.. low end, i'm sure they cost plenty) Macs. This was a small town highschool with maybe 500 students and we probably had 50 machines in the lab. We were taught typing, basic word processing and spreadsheets. The only programming instruction was a new class that they offered my senior year: Hypercard. I took it, and while the instructor was clearly over his head, he did make an honest effort. Unfortunately Hypercard was not an ideal platform to teach programming, and I doubt anyone in the class really learned much that was useful.
Most of your stuff probably spent plenty of time on a cargo ship before you owned it. Consider the packaging it came in and how it was disassembled and do something like that.
Apple doesn't obscure truth, they simply create new truth as needed. 1984 wasn't like "1984", but that was only because Apple hadn't perfected the technology yet.
"....But believing a large consumer group is misled based on your personal view...."
To be fair, I believe most Apple consumers are mislead because they so very often believe things that are simply not true about Apple and Apple's products. It has nothing to do with any "personal view".
you are right. Apple obviously can charge any price they feel like charging. they didn't become the most profitable company in the world by charging the same markup that other companies charge.
I don't recall Apple ever claiming that their products are priced to compete with similarly equipped PCs. This idea is only found in silly fanboys who can't accept the fact that they've paid more for the same computer everybody else has. Apple presents their products as "premium" and they charge premium prices, and while their quality and "premiumness" is certainly debatable, there is nothing wrong with the strategy.
First tell me how this has *anything* to do with walled gardens. Then I'll tell you how letting a massive corporation do your thinking for you can be bad.
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fair enough
Sorry, an article from appleinsider.com full of quotes from Tim Cook (and only Tim Cook, not a single outside analyst) doesn't hold much merit. It's marketing, not fact or news.
As for your other "source", it doesn't support your claims at all.
> Coulling believes that tablets will continue to pressure PC and notebook sales "in the short term,"
How exactly does an analyst predicting short term pressure on the PC market translate into the iPad eliminating the PC market? Where do you people come up with this crap?
Also interesting that both of your sources are from 10 months ago. Maybe that's because more recent numbers show a decline in iPad sales?
http://www.unwiredview.com/2012/10/26/apple-reports-q3-2012-results-iphone-sales-up-ipad-sales-down/
While I agree with the sentiment mostly, DEMANDing security is not in the spirit of that quote. Freedom comes with responsibility, not security. You really cannot have freedom in a perfectly safe system, that is precisely why the quote talks about trading one for the other. The very power and flexibility that lets you experiment also lets you do stupid things that compromise security. Rather than demanding things, I think it's high time we accept that personal education and personal responsibility are the only way to provide both freedom and the safety that a walled garden claims to provide.
...a laptop for example is essentially the same as a tablet except that a laptop can run the software businesses have spent the last 30 years developing, and the tablet can't
ftfy
"...a common opinion that, now that Apple is the largest personal computer manufacturer, a loss of sales combined with Apple's iPad will completely eliminate most of them."
How on earth can someone describe the opinion that Apple's tablet is going to "completely eliminate" most PC manufacturers as "common"? (!?!)
Only someone who ignores reality completely could come to such a misguided conclusion... let me guess.. big Apple fan?
News flash: nearly 90 million PCs sold in Q3. 8 times the number of tablets sold. The PC is already commonplace and suffers from it's own success in that they have become so reliable and so capable that upgrades and replacements just aren't that common. The tablet is brand new and new models with compelling improvements come out every few months. Yet still we see massively more PCs sold than tablets.
A single manufacturer of tablets is going to completely eliminate the PC industry?
Sorry, no.
I don't really see the size limit being a way to force you to use Google services.. as far as I've seen Google allows you to pull in content using pretty much any mechanism you desire with no preference to their own services (other than having their own stuff pre-installed I guess). There are tons of third party content services... I stream lots of audio and watch some video, never signed up for any Google service (pandora, tune in radio, etc). Also just map to my local samba shares, which makes my entire home library available quite easily.
OK I get it (and thanks for the polite answers , realize now I should.have guessed the answer to my own query).
It seems to be not apps but offline media storage that ppl need the larger storage for, or maybe for some massive games.
I guess maybe my usage is atypical as I don't (or havent yet) take the nexus anywhere that I need media and don't have wifi. Just wasn't thinking along those lines at all
Thanks
out of curiosity, what did you fill up 8gb with? I went for the 16gb version of the nexus 7 and after 2 months and literally hundreds of apps have only 2gb used, thinking I should have saved the $50 and got the 8gb version.
> The argument is like saying, "well, the average COBOL programmer costs quite a bit more than the average C programmer...
> clearly we should go where the talent is and program in COBOL!"
No, unless you include in your comparison the part where C costs hundreds of thousands of dollars in licensing fees and COBOL is completely free.
As the real choice is between paying for licensing *and* and competent admin or simply paying for a competent admin, you argument seems mostly like fail.
"innovation oozing out of every pore"
what innovation? outside of the RDF, Apple's devices contained nothing but existing technology, much of which in fact was invented by the very companies they are now abusing the legal system to harm.
The key is to find a place where you can work unseen to create your own horrible code with the hopes that in time you too will become the stuff of legend.
WTF.
The OP obviously is not "hacked". That doesn't make the first bit of sense. Even if the problem wasn't presenting on *two different devices*, why in god's name would any 'hacker' disable your WIFI (and only at your own home). What is the possible motivation for this imaginary criminal mastermind who has invested their time in ruining your WIFI when you are at home? Is he perhaps funded by The Others in a plot to steal your mind waves???
Or maybe... just maybe... (and I know, I'm reaching here)... YOUR ACCESS POINT IS BROKEN, OR HAS BEEN CONFIGURED TO BLOCK THESE DEVICES??? It's just a theory based on the fact that two different devices work fine with every other access point, but not this one. Wild, I know.
How did the editors not notice that this is complete ignorant crap?
PS
the entire question is retarded.
thank you
Google isn't supposed to use their web site to promote their own products?
Well shit, my own company's website does that too. I thought that was why we had the site in the first place, to be honest. Guess I'm doing it wrong.
By the same logic used to sue Google, spammers would now be entitled to damages from every anti-spam service and device in the world. At $500 per email, that's one hell of a payoff for those bastards.
Intelligent people consider the offer on hand, make sure they understand what is offered by both parties, and decide whether or not to agree to the terms.
For many people Google's email offering is an appealing win-win.
We had a decent sized lab of cheap (well.. low end, i'm sure they cost plenty) Macs. This was a small town highschool with maybe 500 students and we probably had 50 machines in the lab. We were taught typing, basic word processing and spreadsheets. The only programming instruction was a new class that they offered my senior year: Hypercard. I took it, and while the instructor was clearly over his head, he did make an honest effort. Unfortunately Hypercard was not an ideal platform to teach programming, and I doubt anyone in the class really learned much that was useful.
Most of your stuff probably spent plenty of time on a cargo ship before you owned it. Consider the packaging it came in and how it was disassembled and do something like that.
So what if they were? They can still invent it later if they want to.
Apple doesn't obscure truth, they simply create new truth as needed. 1984 wasn't like "1984", but that was only because Apple hadn't perfected the technology yet.
"....But believing a large consumer group is misled based on your personal view...."
To be fair, I believe most Apple consumers are mislead because they so very often believe things that are simply not true about Apple and Apple's products.
It has nothing to do with any "personal view".
impossible.
you are right. Apple obviously can charge any price they feel like charging. they didn't become the most profitable company in the world by charging the same markup that other companies charge.
I don't recall Apple ever claiming that their products are priced to compete with similarly equipped PCs. This idea is only found in silly fanboys who can't accept the fact that they've paid more for the same computer everybody else has. Apple presents their products as "premium" and they charge premium prices, and while their quality and "premiumness" is certainly debatable, there is nothing wrong with the strategy.
First tell me how this has *anything* to do with walled gardens. Then I'll tell you how letting a massive corporation do your thinking for you can be bad.
sorry, no.
http://blog.macsales.com/14111-15-macbook-pro-with-retina-display-lessens-web-experience
http://www.robertotoole.com/2012/06/17/macbook-pro-retina-display/
etc...
Hence the question "is there any OS that handles this quite right?". Because we all know about iStuff, and we all know it doesn't.
It's magical. This changes everything, again.