The last day to buy a brand-new iPhone 3G from Apple was June 2010. The last iOS update was November 2010. 6-months of support, for those who bought them near the end of the run. Brand new phones, and got about 6 months software support on it.
So what he described did happen. It happened to me, with the iPhone 3G. I didn't realize that the "minor" upgrade from the 3G to the 3GS would make the 3G obsolete and unsupported. At the time, Apple made it sound more like they would be two versions of the same phone, the "S" a minor upgrade of camera and such, not a replacement that would make the 3G worthless. They wanted to sell their last 3G phones. So I picked up one on sale. And got 6 months support, and years of Slashdotters telling me that Apple supports their products for 5 years, and reality isn't real if it contradicts their opinion.
The last day to buy a brand-new iPhone 3G from Apple was June 2010. The last iOS update was November 2010. 6-months of support, for those who bought them near the end of the run. Brand new phones, sold as the *only* iPhone available at the time, so I bought the newest, best available, and got about 6 months support on it.
My Samsung got very little support. I didn't get a single version upgrade on it, and there were maybe two bug fix patches.
What does get support is rooting Android and using a generic package. Though that option isn't available for iPhone, so you are left with phones abandoned the moment they aren't sold anymore.
Android is safer if you root it and abandon the official versions. TouchWiz isn't that good anyway. Every other maker's UI is better than TouchWiz. My S3 was abandoned on an old version of Android, but I'd have to go boot it to see what. So Samsung has a habit of abandoning older generations. And iOS isn't any better, with less than 1 year support for my 3G, about the same as I got on my S3.
Android has the slight edge, because I can root it and go with a generic, or use a maker like Oppo with weekly OS updates, if you want to update that often.
And you are speculating that Apple would hand out hardware before the sale date to developers without an NDA. I'm not sure what world you live in.
I'm not speculating anything. Your false dichotomy asserts that if I want to see evidence from you to prove your assumption, that I must believe the opposite. That's a dangerous (and stupid) logic.
When I worked at a music store, we were sent pre-release promotional CDs. They were 100% the property of the store, and with special extra licenses for public display and such (intending for the store to play them). If I'd hired a hall and advertised a CD party to hear the whole thing pre-release, it'd have been 100% legal, and I know it would have pissed off the music publisher. There was no NDA, but I'd still have pissed off someone. Thus, that's proof that there was both no NDA, and an NDA. Schrodinger's NDA?
I have a friend with a "developer unit" of Google Glass, and it's his. He owns it. When I worked at a music store, the pre-release CDs sent to the store were 100% the property of the store.
You indicate "developwer unit" requires the manufacturer retain ownership. Still "trifling investment of fact."
Yes, and when I worked at a music store, we'd get CDs before release. And they'd come with *fewer*, not more restrictions. So what do you base your opinion stated as fact on?
This is about the US, and emissions are not an advertised spec, though I've seen some push to put CO2 on the label, but this was about NOx, which I've not seen anyone ever advertise.
So, you know that things like "gates" were named for the physical gates in the first computers. Yes, they were literal gates, not figurative ones, right? The mechanical computers were no less computers than what you worked on. You just apparently hate things you find "different". Makes you a Republican, right?
Lasting physical damage is not required for "torture". Torture is harm or threat of harm to elicit a desired response. Bamboo under the fingernails doesn't necessarily leave lasting damage, so that's not torture, right? Sleep deprivation, starvation, and such aren't torture either, right?
Nope, temporary harm is torture as well. And the original definition explicitly included threats. "Tell us what you want to know, or we'll kill your [loved one]." That's a threat. Causing pain to that loved one in their presence is not torture of the loved one, but torture of the subject.
Most definitions of torture include plea bargains as torture. "Sign this confession, or we'll anally rape you every day for 10 years, I mean you'll go to prison, and we'll let you get raped, as that's fun and how the Justice system in the US delivers justice."
Not under the law at the time. A minor woman can't confer citizenship, at the time. Though, the Obama campaign was lawyered up ready to go to The Supremes with an argument, if it had come down to that issue. That was never challenged in court, and suspected to be an "illegal" law in violation of the Constitution. The age of the mother is currently irrelevant to whether the child is a citizen. Under today's laws, he'd have been a Natural Born Citizen, even if born in Kenya. But not under the sexist laws of the '50s.
because benghazi and the emails are fucking jokes.
She has been under constant investigation for criminal wrongdoing for 20+ years. If she actually did something, why haven't they pressed charges? Instead, we get a conservative witch hunt, spending money we don't have on things we don't want or need. Yup, that's modern conservatism.
Head Start is free stuff for everyone. And even the conservatives indicate that the success of that cuts the costs of things like prison that they would spend money on that "free money" is cheaper than saving money.
The spiteful conservatives don't care about "money". They want to pre-punish all the rapist Mexicans and the like. It's not about finances. It's about spreading hate. Republicans, the party of Hate.
The adding machines of WWII era could replace a CPU in a modern computer (well, an early computer, MMX and such would be much more difficult). What you think of when people say "computer" is all the I/O, pepephrials and such. Like the people today who point to the monitor and call it a "computer". It's hard to correct someone who is both wrong and close minded at the same time. Stop looking at the monitor and calling it a computer.
Punch cards were the keyboard and monitor. The computer was the computer. You "key" in input, and get a result "displayed". Computer. 100% computer. No reasonable definition of
"computer" excludes them, unless you add in additional qualifiers.
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Sold as new in June 2010. Last update or patch, 4.2.1, November 2010. 6 months support. No patches after that.
The last day to buy a brand-new iPhone 3G from Apple was June 2010. The last iOS update was November 2010. 6-months of support, for those who bought them near the end of the run. Brand new phones, and got about 6 months software support on it.
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So what he described did happen. It happened to me, with the iPhone 3G. I didn't realize that the "minor" upgrade from the 3G to the 3GS would make the 3G obsolete and unsupported. At the time, Apple made it sound more like they would be two versions of the same phone, the "S" a minor upgrade of camera and such, not a replacement that would make the 3G worthless. They wanted to sell their last 3G phones. So I picked up one on sale. And got 6 months support, and years of Slashdotters telling me that Apple supports their products for 5 years, and reality isn't real if it contradicts their opinion.
The last day to buy a brand-new iPhone 3G from Apple was June 2010. The last iOS update was November 2010. 6-months of support, for those who bought them near the end of the run. Brand new phones, sold as the *only* iPhone available at the time, so I bought the newest, best available, and got about 6 months support on it.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
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My Samsung got very little support. I didn't get a single version upgrade on it, and there were maybe two bug fix patches.
What does get support is rooting Android and using a generic package. Though that option isn't available for iPhone, so you are left with phones abandoned the moment they aren't sold anymore.
http://www.oppo.com/en/smartph... What about the Oppo?
Apple doesn't either. I bought a 3G at about the end of its sale, and got one year support.
Android is safer if you root it and abandon the official versions. TouchWiz isn't that good anyway. Every other maker's UI is better than TouchWiz. My S3 was abandoned on an old version of Android, but I'd have to go boot it to see what. So Samsung has a habit of abandoning older generations. And iOS isn't any better, with less than 1 year support for my 3G, about the same as I got on my S3.
Android has the slight edge, because I can root it and go with a generic, or use a maker like Oppo with weekly OS updates, if you want to update that often.
Not pardoning Snowden is illegal?
Again, your assumptions.
Nope, just yours. You've been factless. Just insulting others and making more assumptions to cover your assumptions.
It was a developer unit from Apple.
So? Developer units for Google Glass from Google are 100% the property of the developer.
You keep repeating "developer unit" like that has some meaning not proven. You are speculating lots.
I have to prove your false assumption and disprove my own.
I've made no assumptions, false or otherwise.
All the while you are not accepting the word of iFixit that they had a developer unit.
If you spent less time lying to make up false assumptions on my part, you'd have less assumptions by me to disprove.
In your world a company that gives out presale developer units to developers do not normally have them sign NDAs. Do I have that right?
Nope. But feel free to lie some more, it helps distract yourself from your own false assumptions and speculation.
Yup. Just proving you wrong. "developer unit" doesn't mean "corporate loan"
Capitalists believe in fraud as a God-given right? Shocking.
And you are speculating that Apple would hand out hardware before the sale date to developers without an NDA. I'm not sure what world you live in.
I'm not speculating anything. Your false dichotomy asserts that if I want to see evidence from you to prove your assumption, that I must believe the opposite. That's a dangerous (and stupid) logic.
We should pile all the Congressmen in a pile and set them on fire. Fossil Fuel.
Apple TV is on the market. But the new model isn't released yet.
Did you RTFA or the thread? iFixit admits that the AppleTV was a developer unit.
And Developer units of Google Glass were paid property of the developer. You are making assumptions not supported by the facts.
And you are sure Apple won't sue for an NDA violation? Who's speculating now?
You, speculating that there was an NDA.
When I worked at a music store, we were sent pre-release promotional CDs. They were 100% the property of the store, and with special extra licenses for public display and such (intending for the store to play them). If I'd hired a hall and advertised a CD party to hear the whole thing pre-release, it'd have been 100% legal, and I know it would have pissed off the music publisher. There was no NDA, but I'd still have pissed off someone. Thus, that's proof that there was both no NDA, and an NDA. Schrodinger's NDA?
I have a friend with a "developer unit" of Google Glass, and it's his. He owns it. When I worked at a music store, the pre-release CDs sent to the store were 100% the property of the store.
You indicate "developwer unit" requires the manufacturer retain ownership. Still "trifling investment of fact."
Yes, and when I worked at a music store, we'd get CDs before release. And they'd come with *fewer*, not more restrictions. So what do you base your opinion stated as fact on?
This is about the US, and emissions are not an advertised spec, though I've seen some push to put CO2 on the label, but this was about NOx, which I've not seen anyone ever advertise.
So, you know that things like "gates" were named for the physical gates in the first computers. Yes, they were literal gates, not figurative ones, right? The mechanical computers were no less computers than what you worked on. You just apparently hate things you find "different". Makes you a Republican, right?
Lasting physical damage is not required for "torture". Torture is harm or threat of harm to elicit a desired response. Bamboo under the fingernails doesn't necessarily leave lasting damage, so that's not torture, right? Sleep deprivation, starvation, and such aren't torture either, right?
Nope, temporary harm is torture as well. And the original definition explicitly included threats. "Tell us what you want to know, or we'll kill your [loved one]." That's a threat. Causing pain to that loved one in their presence is not torture of the loved one, but torture of the subject.
Most definitions of torture include plea bargains as torture. "Sign this confession, or we'll anally rape you every day for 10 years, I mean you'll go to prison, and we'll let you get raped, as that's fun and how the Justice system in the US delivers justice."
Not under the law at the time. A minor woman can't confer citizenship, at the time. Though, the Obama campaign was lawyered up ready to go to The Supremes with an argument, if it had come down to that issue. That was never challenged in court, and suspected to be an "illegal" law in violation of the Constitution. The age of the mother is currently irrelevant to whether the child is a citizen. Under today's laws, he'd have been a Natural Born Citizen, even if born in Kenya. But not under the sexist laws of the '50s.
because benghazi and the emails are fucking jokes.
She has been under constant investigation for criminal wrongdoing for 20+ years. If she actually did something, why haven't they pressed charges? Instead, we get a conservative witch hunt, spending money we don't have on things we don't want or need. Yup, that's modern conservatism.
Free stuff is cheaper than not free stuff.
Head Start is free stuff for everyone. And even the conservatives indicate that the success of that cuts the costs of things like prison that they would spend money on that "free money" is cheaper than saving money.
The spiteful conservatives don't care about "money". They want to pre-punish all the rapist Mexicans and the like. It's not about finances. It's about spreading hate. Republicans, the party of Hate.
The adding machines of WWII era could replace a CPU in a modern computer (well, an early computer, MMX and such would be much more difficult). What you think of when people say "computer" is all the I/O, pepephrials and such. Like the people today who point to the monitor and call it a "computer". It's hard to correct someone who is both wrong and close minded at the same time. Stop looking at the monitor and calling it a computer.
Punch cards were the keyboard and monitor. The computer was the computer. You "key" in input, and get a result "displayed". Computer. 100% computer. No reasonable definition of "computer" excludes them, unless you add in additional qualifiers.