It took a century for the geocentric model to give more accurate results than the old heliocentric model.
But the "benefits" were immediate. The geocentric model was complicated and incomplete. The heliocentric was "better" day-1 for some things. But the accuracy was more a limit of the measurements at the time. It also took time for others to come on board. People were afraid that if they admitted the heliocentric model was better, they'd be sent to Hell.
It'd have no effect. The gyro could be precessed to help turning, but it would only have a minor effect on the lean, and none on the turn. This isn't the first gyro-stabilized motorbike.
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You are changing your definition. Trikes are motorbikes, unless they are 3-wheeled cars. You are changing your definition.
You people have ruined this site.
I posted the truth. You lied. Yes, I ruined the Internet by calling out a lying AC on their lying lies.
In Texas and Alaska, trikes are motorbikes, not cars. Oh, and in WA, you are wrong. They are motorbikes. You can't ride one because you need a sidecar endorsement to ride it. Legally, it's a motorbike with a sidecar.
Again, every AC post I've ever seen has been 100% wrong on facts.
Someone else posted the IRS policy making the storage of emails the "responsibility" of the employee. At some point a human has to do it. So which human and how deliberately is the question. It looks to me that employees "innocently" archived emails locally, deleting them off the server. They then "lost" them in a mass event, like a department OS upgrade. Sounds plausible, and no one act "grossly" anything.
Unless you consider it gross incompetence to allow users to delete emails. Even the cat joke ones.
Relying on the un-backed-up hard drive of a computer as the sole repository of official communications is complete insanity.
That's standard procedure for the private sector, and many in the government have (And will) work in the private sector that they keep those bad habits. It's not deliberate, it's "best practices."
So, the IRS is given the smallest budget possible, and re-uses drives (probably over OS upgrades) and it required to wipe them, lest taxpayer info get released. Yet, when they are following all those rules, a department manages to break IRS rules and stores emails locally, probably because the budget cuts for the IRS require them to use low quotas, so users, against policy, archive locally. Then, the corner they are backed into is abused by the same people who made the problem to invent some other non-existent problem and make it all into a huge conspiracy.
The only power behind the purpose was the power to cut budgets.
Did it crash? I heard "recycled" and the timing is in line with OS upgrades. Wipe the drive and re-image. The timing of the requests was unrelated to the data loss.
Well, and now I'm hearing they were "recycled" not failed. The timing of the XP to Win7 migration coincides with the data loss. They could have simply been re-imaged with workers "illegally" keeping emails locally and not backed up. Thats not even negligence on the part of the IRS at that point. So long as the policy to keep emails was well known and enforced when known to be broken.
And many of them are mandatory for companies as well.
Doesn't change the fact that many "best practices" are pretty horrible, and most IT departments are incompetent.
Some things which are merely good practice for "companies" are mandatory for federal agencies.
So is it a conspiracy or negligence? It's hard to prove all the lunatics wrong when the bar changes every post. There is no proof of a deliberate coverup. There is no proof of deliberate deletions. The practices used by the government are incompetent, but still industry "best practices", because the industry is incompetent.
In short, because there is no unified federal policy. The end user deletes things because they assume that the server stores all. The server honors the delete request because, hey, it's a delete request. For all the server knows, its a photo of a cat. The user should keep it if it's important.
So you have multiple sides assuming the other is doing something they are not. And things fall through the cracks.
It's not malice, it's incompetence. Lots of it. Of course, I've seen the same thing happen in corporates. A corporate as large as the government would be worse, not better.
You obviously don't work in IT. I've seen companies with very low quotas. So everyone stored emails locally. And the standard policy for OS upgrades is to wipe the drive. As the time these were "lost" the IRS was working on XP to Win7 upgrades. Why is it "unreasonable" to think that upgrades are done in batches of departments or bad archive habits are propagated among co-workers?
Yeah, facts like six other failures of storage for emails for six other people's mail the investigators want to read? What a crazy coincidence. But facts are facts, right?
The time frame of the "failures" overlaps with the IRS's XP to Win7 upgrades. Could it be that the entire department was (wongly) storing emails locally, probably on bad IT advice, and got all their emails wiped in a routine OS upgrade? No, it's a conspiracy to treat all applicants the same, poorly.
The "problem" seems to be that there were an unusually high number of applications in a short period, so they *all* got delayed. It's a "conservative" issue because of the mix of applicants, not that they were singled out as the applicants treated poorly.
The conspiracy is twisting uniformly poor service into a political conspiracy.
and the contents of the mail server and the backups of the hard drive and the backups of the mail server and the user seems reluctant to tell the truth about what the emails actually say and there are allegations of misconduct involving said emails and (as far as we know) the IRS isn't also missing a whole bunch of non-related emails, only "coincidentally" the potentially-damaging ones...
Because users, against department guidelines, archive emails to a local (not network) drive, causing all the actions above to happen automatically without any human action or knowledge.
then maybe it really is a fucking conspiracy!
No, I've seen this happen at multiple private companies. They just didn't have lots of lawsuits flying around calling attention to it. That's not a conspiracy, that's standard "hire a CS graduate for IT" work. IT professionals, are, in general, incompetent (certainly not anyone reading this, but all the "other guys"). Setting email box limits low, quotas on shared drives, and a policy requiring all emails to be stored on the server demonstrates incompetence. Especially when the IT guys go in and bump their 20M limits to 20G, and complain about the whiny users.
This kust looks like standard private-sector IT SNAFU. I've not seen *anything* that would indicate otherwise.
IRS was (still is, by some reports) moving to Win7 off XP. It's an industry standard act to wipe drives when re-imaging to a new OS. I've seen nothing in all this that points to malice. Not for targeting new registrants, and not for "losing email".
Nixon handed over the tapes, after they were wiped. If this were Nixon, the drives would have been there, with the incriminating emails deleted. And Nixon resigned only after impeachment started, and it looked like the votes had him beat. He was a coward to ran.
A lot of places have 3-year recycling rules. Computers are wiped between XP and Vista/7. The IRS has an email server everyone "should be" using, so why are so many employees having issues? Did they have a 20M box limit and piles of 19M attachments running around? I've worked places (recently) where I hit my email cap within a week of starting. "here read this to get up to speed" and a few attachments later, I'm archiving all mail, including new mail.
I personally had to deal with the IRS a few times, every time I was told it was "illegal" for them to use email, and they used mail or phone exclusively. Maybe they have different policies for different departments, but I've tried, mutliple times, and have never seen an email from an IRS employee.
Idiot assholes like you are the reason nobody apologizes anymore in the USA. An apology isn't a confession. He apologized for "bad service" not for "targeting conservatives" as he still holds that didn't happen.
It wasn't about the numbers being investigated, but the numbers being registered. Why are there 190 new conservative groups? When there are spikes that high in new registrations, doesn't that signal alerts? The "normal" rate is quite low. The fact that there were enough to get all "OMFG OVER 190!!!!!1!!!" about is proof enough to those that investigate fraud that something "interesting" was happening.
No, it is not. "Discretion" is a right of enforcement that trumps the Constitution. The police have sued many times for that, and have won sufficiently.
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It took a century for the geocentric model to give more accurate results than the old heliocentric model.
But the "benefits" were immediate. The geocentric model was complicated and incomplete. The heliocentric was "better" day-1 for some things. But the accuracy was more a limit of the measurements at the time. It also took time for others to come on board. People were afraid that if they admitted the heliocentric model was better, they'd be sent to Hell.
It'd have no effect. The gyro could be precessed to help turning, but it would only have a minor effect on the lean, and none on the turn. This isn't the first gyro-stabilized motorbike.
And there's "compliance" on paper, that's not followed properly by employees.
AC refuses to ride motorbike because it's dangerous! Stop the presses!
But the makers of the computer can't find a single problem it solves well. Why is that?
You people have ruined this site.
I posted the truth. You lied. Yes, I ruined the Internet by calling out a lying AC on their lying lies.
In Texas and Alaska, trikes are motorbikes, not cars. Oh, and in WA, you are wrong. They are motorbikes. You can't ride one because you need a sidecar endorsement to ride it. Legally, it's a motorbike with a sidecar.
Again, every AC post I've ever seen has been 100% wrong on facts.
Someone else posted the IRS policy making the storage of emails the "responsibility" of the employee. At some point a human has to do it. So which human and how deliberately is the question. It looks to me that employees "innocently" archived emails locally, deleting them off the server. They then "lost" them in a mass event, like a department OS upgrade. Sounds plausible, and no one act "grossly" anything.
Unless you consider it gross incompetence to allow users to delete emails. Even the cat joke ones.
Relying on the un-backed-up hard drive of a computer as the sole repository of official communications is complete insanity.
That's standard procedure for the private sector, and many in the government have (And will) work in the private sector that they keep those bad habits. It's not deliberate, it's "best practices."
So, the IRS is given the smallest budget possible, and re-uses drives (probably over OS upgrades) and it required to wipe them, lest taxpayer info get released. Yet, when they are following all those rules, a department manages to break IRS rules and stores emails locally, probably because the budget cuts for the IRS require them to use low quotas, so users, against policy, archive locally. Then, the corner they are backed into is abused by the same people who made the problem to invent some other non-existent problem and make it all into a huge conspiracy.
The only power behind the purpose was the power to cut budgets.
Did it crash? I heard "recycled" and the timing is in line with OS upgrades. Wipe the drive and re-image. The timing of the requests was unrelated to the data loss.
Well, and now I'm hearing they were "recycled" not failed. The timing of the XP to Win7 migration coincides with the data loss. They could have simply been re-imaged with workers "illegally" keeping emails locally and not backed up. Thats not even negligence on the part of the IRS at that point. So long as the policy to keep emails was well known and enforced when known to be broken.
You can't jail them because you are sure it's one or the other. You have to pick one and prove it. So, which is it?
Doesn't change the fact that many "best practices" are pretty horrible, and most IT departments are incompetent.
Some things which are merely good practice for "companies" are mandatory for federal agencies.
So is it a conspiracy or negligence? It's hard to prove all the lunatics wrong when the bar changes every post. There is no proof of a deliberate coverup. There is no proof of deliberate deletions. The practices used by the government are incompetent, but still industry "best practices", because the industry is incompetent.
In short, because there is no unified federal policy. The end user deletes things because they assume that the server stores all. The server honors the delete request because, hey, it's a delete request. For all the server knows, its a photo of a cat. The user should keep it if it's important.
So you have multiple sides assuming the other is doing something they are not. And things fall through the cracks.
It's not malice, it's incompetence. Lots of it. Of course, I've seen the same thing happen in corporates. A corporate as large as the government would be worse, not better.
I read them, and they are guessing and repeating rumour. Neither presented a single fact.
And they are comments on the supposed cover up, not on the alleged act that is being covered up.
You obviously don't work in IT. I've seen companies with very low quotas. So everyone stored emails locally. And the standard policy for OS upgrades is to wipe the drive. As the time these were "lost" the IRS was working on XP to Win7 upgrades. Why is it "unreasonable" to think that upgrades are done in batches of departments or bad archive habits are propagated among co-workers?
Yeah, facts like six other failures of storage for emails for six other people's mail the investigators want to read? What a crazy coincidence. But facts are facts, right?
The time frame of the "failures" overlaps with the IRS's XP to Win7 upgrades. Could it be that the entire department was (wongly) storing emails locally, probably on bad IT advice, and got all their emails wiped in a routine OS upgrade? No, it's a conspiracy to treat all applicants the same, poorly.
The "problem" seems to be that there were an unusually high number of applications in a short period, so they *all* got delayed. It's a "conservative" issue because of the mix of applicants, not that they were singled out as the applicants treated poorly.
The conspiracy is twisting uniformly poor service into a political conspiracy.
When it's the user's hard drive
Is wiped in a routine OS upgrade.
and the contents of the mail server and the backups of the hard drive and the backups of the mail server and the user seems reluctant to tell the truth about what the emails actually say and there are allegations of misconduct involving said emails and (as far as we know) the IRS isn't also missing a whole bunch of non-related emails, only "coincidentally" the potentially-damaging ones...
Because users, against department guidelines, archive emails to a local (not network) drive, causing all the actions above to happen automatically without any human action or knowledge.
then maybe it really is a fucking conspiracy!
No, I've seen this happen at multiple private companies. They just didn't have lots of lawsuits flying around calling attention to it. That's not a conspiracy, that's standard "hire a CS graduate for IT" work. IT professionals, are, in general, incompetent (certainly not anyone reading this, but all the "other guys"). Setting email box limits low, quotas on shared drives, and a policy requiring all emails to be stored on the server demonstrates incompetence. Especially when the IT guys go in and bump their 20M limits to 20G, and complain about the whiny users.
This kust looks like standard private-sector IT SNAFU. I've not seen *anything* that would indicate otherwise.
IRS was (still is, by some reports) moving to Win7 off XP. It's an industry standard act to wipe drives when re-imaging to a new OS. I've seen nothing in all this that points to malice. Not for targeting new registrants, and not for "losing email".
Nixon handed over the tapes, after they were wiped. If this were Nixon, the drives would have been there, with the incriminating emails deleted. And Nixon resigned only after impeachment started, and it looked like the votes had him beat. He was a coward to ran.
A lot of places have 3-year recycling rules. Computers are wiped between XP and Vista/7. The IRS has an email server everyone "should be" using, so why are so many employees having issues? Did they have a 20M box limit and piles of 19M attachments running around? I've worked places (recently) where I hit my email cap within a week of starting. "here read this to get up to speed" and a few attachments later, I'm archiving all mail, including new mail.
I personally had to deal with the IRS a few times, every time I was told it was "illegal" for them to use email, and they used mail or phone exclusively. Maybe they have different policies for different departments, but I've tried, mutliple times, and have never seen an email from an IRS employee.
Idiot assholes like you are the reason nobody apologizes anymore in the USA. An apology isn't a confession. He apologized for "bad service" not for "targeting conservatives" as he still holds that didn't happen.
It wasn't about the numbers being investigated, but the numbers being registered. Why are there 190 new conservative groups? When there are spikes that high in new registrations, doesn't that signal alerts? The "normal" rate is quite low. The fact that there were enough to get all "OMFG OVER 190!!!!!1!!!" about is proof enough to those that investigate fraud that something "interesting" was happening.
No, it is not. "Discretion" is a right of enforcement that trumps the Constitution. The police have sued many times for that, and have won sufficiently.