The discussion here wasn't about using options to hedge, but to profit from a stock's fall. That you don't know the difference, or are unable to discuss it without frothing at the mouth about how glorious your strategy is, indicates *you* are the one that doesn't understand the issues.
Or my favorite, selling calls (against the box) when I'm holding an exercisable stock option at the strike price from my employer that doesn't expire and make a few bucks with ZERO risk of loss.
Yes, when you hold an infinite value option, you can hedge against any "loss" of it, for a cost. But you'd have made more if you didn't waste money on options, so it's still a risk.
What makes you think the majority of people buying stocks are investors?
Because much of the outstanding shares are held by "investment" funds, thus, one would presume they are held by investors, or those who represent investors.
Before WWII, can you show a single example of the US landing troops in a foreign country without Congressional approval? Panama? Probably. Grenada? No. That's an invasion of a sovereign nation. That it was allowed doesn't mean it wasn't "illegal".
Curious if you bought Cyanongen, Inc (or whatever it's called)?
Nope. I have evaluated trading, and have found that it's not for me. I did it for a few months, and didn't like the results. Compulsive reading, trouble sleeping, and a return of 10% per month wasn't worth it. It's so much easier to get a good salaried job and put 10-20% of that in mutual funds. The stress is zero. And the returns match the market. It might delay the date at which I can retire completely, but I'll certainly live longer.
I have a friend making good returns playing the news. Wait for something to hit the news, then buy on bad news. never sell short, never use options. The market generally over-reacts. Stay in the market in something like Google or Apple. You need the money in the market because the market is constantly on an upward trend. Because individuals are last to get the news, the reaction at the time she gets the news is bad, the others are already selling out of the falling stock. Her orders to sell her "base stock" then buy the target stock are slow. By the time she gets a buy of the target stock, it's near the minimum, and the investors start buying back in. She gets a jump as people buy back in after the dip recovers. Beats the market consistently.
I was telling them that you could make more using options than selling short with about the same risk
You make about the same with about the same risk. Some people prefer one over the other, but in practice, they are effectively interchangeable. Options reduce maximum loss (risk) and maximum gains. If you use options and the price doesn't change, you lose money. If you sell short, and the price doesn't change, then you don't lose money. Options are better about magnifying investments. A smaller payment for a greater potential gain. So long as you don't finance your sell short, which so many do, in which case they get closer again.
Layoffs increase profitability. It may not make sense to you, but there is some logic there, even if flawed. And since layoffs increase stock price, you should buy when you hear, to not be the last on the rising tide.
It'll be ready when scaled up. Unlike flying cars, which have no current path to commercial viability. That's the point. It works, and would be commercially ready for small screens now, but that's not where the profit is.
Congress controls the money for the war. No funding for the war and there is no war.
Nope. Congress can eliminate the budget for the military, but doesn't approve $10M on an attack on one city, and $10B for an invasion of another. Most of the military funding is unallocated. Congress is the only one that can vote for war. Before Vietnam, that meant that no action on foreign soil (act of war) could take place without permission of Congress. Going to war was Congress's power. Controlling the military in that war was the President's.
Just because I point out Republicans are liars, and Trump is bad doesn't mean I'm voting for Hillary, or that I'm a Democrat. Try thinking next time. Or any time.
Start thinking for yourself! What you are cut/pasting says he is worth $100M yet he is called a billionaire that should make something click that what you are being feed is incorrect.
Technically he failed to disagree with the person who said he was worth $100M. Trump threatened a suit, then abandoned it when he realized he'd have to prove his worth, which is not much. His companies "control" billions, and he controls them. But he doesn't have much in his own name, and doesn't take income from his businesses. He uses them for personal expense, then treats it as a company expense. That's called embezzlement. And Trump knows that he'll be revealing multiple felonies if he ever fully opened his books. That's why he doesn't.
He's called a billionaire because he "owns" $10B of real estate. Never mind that it's mortgaged 100%, so the net value approaches zero.
Not even close. I didn't say anything "left", other than you didn't like it. "The Republicans admitted that the Benghazi hearings were political in nature, timed to weaken her in the primaries." Google it. You'll get a list of Republicans saying that. I guess if I agree with the Republicans, I must be left.
You then said "you lefties" when talking about me. You assigned me to a group. I'm center. In political conversations, the righties call me left, and lefties call me right. Both feel the need to assign names to, then dismiss, anyone who doesn't agree with them. Makes both liars. Including you. BLM protested the innocent black man shot in the back. The cops called it a good shoot until the video came out. Walter Scott. Had the bystander waited 3 weeks to release the video, I have no doubt that the police would have officially ruled it a good shoot, and the riots would have been worse. The police haven't come out against the shooting of the innocent bystander who was the therapist trying to help the autistic person. That you refuse to acknowledge any of the innocents shot by police shows your racism, not BLM's.
The implied choice is between MS and Sony. You'd pick a rootkit designed to harm *you* personally, over monopoly abuses that hurt the market, but not the consumers (other than the theoretical damage of a monopoly, which XBone doesn't have).
It still mostly plays games of a genre that I don't care about (doom clones).
That their most famous exclusive is an FPS doesn't excuse the massive multi-platrform titles available on both. The exclusives for PS are reducing, though PS still has the Japanese-only games, and many of their sequels.
Maybe if I was a single guy with money to burn and time to kill, I would be interested but there is no room in my life for a Microsoft or Sony console right now at any price.
So you recomend against all consoles. Then why not lead with that, and leave the rest out. You have two MS-only complaints, then the "I wouldn't pick any" disclaimer. Seems hollow when you single out one console to bash.
XBone has many exclusive features. PS4 integrates with PSVita only. If you want to buy into Sony's monoculture. XBone works with the number 1 OS on the planet. Cast to/from XBone/PC. Use your PC as a DVR/media player, playing from your PC to your XBone. Watch your children play games from your PC in the other room. XBone actually tries to be usable. PS4 is "for players". XBone is for people, especially families. Kinect is great. Voice commands, fun games that have you moving.
But picking PS4 because you like rootkits seems a silly differentiator between two companies with bad corporate track-records.
You are a lying sack of shit. You assigned a side to me. That makes you a liar. You don't care about the truth. You just lie to cover up lies of people you attach yourself to. I don't like Hillary. I won't be voting for her.
You sound like Black Lives Matter, bitching that a conspiracy of cops is making the streets unsafe for criminals to ply their trades.
BLM pointed out that a black man, unarmed and laying down with his hands up is still likely to be shot by a cop. With witnesses and video. And the cops claim it's a good shoot. That's what BLM talks about. Not defending criminals, but defending the many innocent executed by cops.
If only the people abused by the police were armed. Blacks should just join the NRA and arm themselves.
Lets try to divorce this concept from the "Trump" name, that may cloud judgment. Want a better example of business failure, the pro athlete that is broke 5 to 10 years after they retire. Not the ex-athlete that still has $100M of $150M left, especially the ex-athlete at 70 years of age. For the later case you need to know what their goal was.
An athlete stops working. Trump claims to have made millions last year. Troy Aikman is still making money. He has his name on some dealerships (no idea if he owns them, or just licenses his name, but I suspect he owns them). He works on commentating and such. At best, Trump spends more than he makes. At worst, he loses much, and lies to us about it. We can't tell which lie he's telling, and how big the lie is, because he's the first candidate in a long time to not release is tax records.
Again, is there any evidence that his bankruptcies are not just a few failed projects out of dozens?
Nope. It's just more proof of his lies. He's a man of his word, unless he owes you money and sues the government to keep you from collecting. That's the piece the Trump-worshippers seem to miss. Bankruptcy is suing the government for protection from people you are breaking your promise to. From someone who has claimed his word is good. Many times.
You do know why he didn't publicize his tax returns, right? His estimated inheritance was $150M in 2016 dollars, and his estimated wealth is $100M in 2016 dollars. He's managed to lose more than $1M a year. That's how he runs businesses, into the ground. Of course, he threatened to sue the biographer that detailed his finances, and the biographer said "sure, get on the stand in court, under oath, where the topic is your finances." Trump ran away and took back all his lies about the biographer.
Trump objects when you call him a failed businessman who has never made $1 in his life, but has just lost his father's fortune with style, but he won't show a tax return or open any books to prove it wrong.
At least fraud Hillary files her taxes and shared her returns.
Fraud Donald refuses to do that. And the Trump Worshipers can't think to ask why.
Because it's usually true. The Republicans admitted that the Benghazi hearings were political in nature, timed to weaken her in the primaries. They found nothing new, and nothing that incriminated Hillary for anything other than having a small budget handed to her by the Republicans in Congress. When there are actual conspiracies, it's hard to not see conspiracies.
Trump can't even run a business. He won't be able to run a country. Putin knows this, and while Trump is busy making a mess of the US economy, he'll do whatever he wants, wherever he wants.
If the 3rd party breaks the law at the request of the government, it's treated as if the government broke the law themselves. Note, if Yahoo independently broke the law allowing them access to the emails, then provided those emails when requested, they didn't break the law at the request of the government, unless it can be shown that the initial law breaking was in response to a previous request by the government.
Stronger, lighter, cheaper, thinner? So many contradictions in there it's amazing because you're not getting all of those.
That you are dumb doesn't make something impossible. https://www.youtube.com/watch?... Oppo got rid of the jack, and ended up with a phone that was, at the time, the thinnest in the world, strong (with the video to prove it because so many idiots like you assume that thin and light mean weak), light, and much cheaper than anything close from Samsung. Sure, the jack wasn't the only reason this happened, but it was a contributing factor. Drop the jack, and make vast improvements in the design.
Exactly how is using a USB device easier then a simple plug?
Ask two people how a car is easier than a horse. One person from 1898, and one person from 1998.
USB is easier because it's universal. You have more options on location and presentation of the jack.
They have no drawbacks either, except for adding a few cents to the cost of the slave labor that makes your phone,
Space, weight, cost, and fragile. You missed some of the drawbacks of jacks. Also, re-read with the definition of "obsolete" being "old-fashioned". You might find that if your vocabulary is good, other people are easier to understand.
How do you run a software update to update your chromebook from quad-core A8 to 8-core A9? A USB-C phone and USB-C laptop converter will be good for 5-10 years, at least as long as the average laptop today, and much longer than the average phone.
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Is that the same tech as the one in the article? So many people are solving the same issue in different ways, I have trouble keeping them straight.
Or my favorite, selling calls (against the box) when I'm holding an exercisable stock option at the strike price from my employer that doesn't expire and make a few bucks with ZERO risk of loss.
Yes, when you hold an infinite value option, you can hedge against any "loss" of it, for a cost. But you'd have made more if you didn't waste money on options, so it's still a risk.
What makes you think the majority of people buying stocks are investors?
Because much of the outstanding shares are held by "investment" funds, thus, one would presume they are held by investors, or those who represent investors.
Before WWII, can you show a single example of the US landing troops in a foreign country without Congressional approval? Panama? Probably. Grenada? No. That's an invasion of a sovereign nation. That it was allowed doesn't mean it wasn't "illegal".
Curious if you bought Cyanongen, Inc (or whatever it's called)?
Nope. I have evaluated trading, and have found that it's not for me. I did it for a few months, and didn't like the results. Compulsive reading, trouble sleeping, and a return of 10% per month wasn't worth it. It's so much easier to get a good salaried job and put 10-20% of that in mutual funds. The stress is zero. And the returns match the market. It might delay the date at which I can retire completely, but I'll certainly live longer.
I have a friend making good returns playing the news. Wait for something to hit the news, then buy on bad news. never sell short, never use options. The market generally over-reacts. Stay in the market in something like Google or Apple. You need the money in the market because the market is constantly on an upward trend. Because individuals are last to get the news, the reaction at the time she gets the news is bad, the others are already selling out of the falling stock. Her orders to sell her "base stock" then buy the target stock are slow. By the time she gets a buy of the target stock, it's near the minimum, and the investors start buying back in. She gets a jump as people buy back in after the dip recovers. Beats the market consistently.
I was telling them that you could make more using options than selling short with about the same risk
You make about the same with about the same risk. Some people prefer one over the other, but in practice, they are effectively interchangeable. Options reduce maximum loss (risk) and maximum gains. If you use options and the price doesn't change, you lose money. If you sell short, and the price doesn't change, then you don't lose money. Options are better about magnifying investments. A smaller payment for a greater potential gain. So long as you don't finance your sell short, which so many do, in which case they get closer again.
That you can't understand doesn't make it insane. It's logical and predictable. And yes, a bit crazy.
Layoffs increase profitability. It may not make sense to you, but there is some logic there, even if flawed. And since layoffs increase stock price, you should buy when you hear, to not be the last on the rising tide.
It'll be ready when scaled up. Unlike flying cars, which have no current path to commercial viability. That's the point. It works, and would be commercially ready for small screens now, but that's not where the profit is.
Congress controls the money for the war. No funding for the war and there is no war.
Nope. Congress can eliminate the budget for the military, but doesn't approve $10M on an attack on one city, and $10B for an invasion of another. Most of the military funding is unallocated. Congress is the only one that can vote for war. Before Vietnam, that meant that no action on foreign soil (act of war) could take place without permission of Congress. Going to war was Congress's power. Controlling the military in that war was the President's.
Other than leaving out the cost, weight, size, and fragility. Other than that, yes, no reason to leave it out.
I'm not a Democrat. Who are you responding to?
Just because I point out Republicans are liars, and Trump is bad doesn't mean I'm voting for Hillary, or that I'm a Democrat. Try thinking next time. Or any time.
Start thinking for yourself! What you are cut/pasting says he is worth $100M yet he is called a billionaire that should make something click that what you are being feed is incorrect.
Technically he failed to disagree with the person who said he was worth $100M. Trump threatened a suit, then abandoned it when he realized he'd have to prove his worth, which is not much. His companies "control" billions, and he controls them. But he doesn't have much in his own name, and doesn't take income from his businesses. He uses them for personal expense, then treats it as a company expense. That's called embezzlement. And Trump knows that he'll be revealing multiple felonies if he ever fully opened his books. That's why he doesn't.
He's called a billionaire because he "owns" $10B of real estate. Never mind that it's mortgaged 100%, so the net value approaches zero.
You assigned yourself.
Not even close. I didn't say anything "left", other than you didn't like it. "The Republicans admitted that the Benghazi hearings were political in nature, timed to weaken her in the primaries." Google it. You'll get a list of Republicans saying that. I guess if I agree with the Republicans, I must be left.
You then said "you lefties" when talking about me. You assigned me to a group. I'm center. In political conversations, the righties call me left, and lefties call me right. Both feel the need to assign names to, then dismiss, anyone who doesn't agree with them. Makes both liars. Including you. BLM protested the innocent black man shot in the back. The cops called it a good shoot until the video came out. Walter Scott. Had the bystander waited 3 weeks to release the video, I have no doubt that the police would have officially ruled it a good shoot, and the riots would have been worse. The police haven't come out against the shooting of the innocent bystander who was the therapist trying to help the autistic person. That you refuse to acknowledge any of the innocents shot by police shows your racism, not BLM's.
It's still a Microsoft product.
The implied choice is between MS and Sony. You'd pick a rootkit designed to harm *you* personally, over monopoly abuses that hurt the market, but not the consumers (other than the theoretical damage of a monopoly, which XBone doesn't have).
It still mostly plays games of a genre that I don't care about (doom clones).
That their most famous exclusive is an FPS doesn't excuse the massive multi-platrform titles available on both. The exclusives for PS are reducing, though PS still has the Japanese-only games, and many of their sequels.
Maybe if I was a single guy with money to burn and time to kill, I would be interested but there is no room in my life for a Microsoft or Sony console right now at any price.
So you recomend against all consoles. Then why not lead with that, and leave the rest out. You have two MS-only complaints, then the "I wouldn't pick any" disclaimer. Seems hollow when you single out one console to bash.
XBone has many exclusive features. PS4 integrates with PSVita only. If you want to buy into Sony's monoculture. XBone works with the number 1 OS on the planet. Cast to/from XBone/PC. Use your PC as a DVR/media player, playing from your PC to your XBone. Watch your children play games from your PC in the other room. XBone actually tries to be usable. PS4 is "for players". XBone is for people, especially families. Kinect is great. Voice commands, fun games that have you moving.
But picking PS4 because you like rootkits seems a silly differentiator between two companies with bad corporate track-records.
You sound like Black Lives Matter, bitching that a conspiracy of cops is making the streets unsafe for criminals to ply their trades.
BLM pointed out that a black man, unarmed and laying down with his hands up is still likely to be shot by a cop. With witnesses and video. And the cops claim it's a good shoot. That's what BLM talks about. Not defending criminals, but defending the many innocent executed by cops.
If only the people abused by the police were armed. Blacks should just join the NRA and arm themselves.
Lets try to divorce this concept from the "Trump" name, that may cloud judgment. Want a better example of business failure, the pro athlete that is broke 5 to 10 years after they retire. Not the ex-athlete that still has $100M of $150M left, especially the ex-athlete at 70 years of age. For the later case you need to know what their goal was.
An athlete stops working. Trump claims to have made millions last year. Troy Aikman is still making money. He has his name on some dealerships (no idea if he owns them, or just licenses his name, but I suspect he owns them). He works on commentating and such. At best, Trump spends more than he makes. At worst, he loses much, and lies to us about it. We can't tell which lie he's telling, and how big the lie is, because he's the first candidate in a long time to not release is tax records.
Again, is there any evidence that his bankruptcies are not just a few failed projects out of dozens?
Nope. It's just more proof of his lies. He's a man of his word, unless he owes you money and sues the government to keep you from collecting. That's the piece the Trump-worshippers seem to miss. Bankruptcy is suing the government for protection from people you are breaking your promise to. From someone who has claimed his word is good. Many times.
You do know why he didn't publicize his tax returns, right? His estimated inheritance was $150M in 2016 dollars, and his estimated wealth is $100M in 2016 dollars. He's managed to lose more than $1M a year. That's how he runs businesses, into the ground. Of course, he threatened to sue the biographer that detailed his finances, and the biographer said "sure, get on the stand in court, under oath, where the topic is your finances." Trump ran away and took back all his lies about the biographer.
Trump objects when you call him a failed businessman who has never made $1 in his life, but has just lost his father's fortune with style, but he won't show a tax return or open any books to prove it wrong.
At least fraud Hillary files her taxes and shared her returns.
Fraud Donald refuses to do that. And the Trump Worshipers can't think to ask why.
Because it's usually true. The Republicans admitted that the Benghazi hearings were political in nature, timed to weaken her in the primaries. They found nothing new, and nothing that incriminated Hillary for anything other than having a small budget handed to her by the Republicans in Congress. When there are actual conspiracies, it's hard to not see conspiracies.
Trump can't even run a business. He won't be able to run a country. Putin knows this, and while Trump is busy making a mess of the US economy, he'll do whatever he wants, wherever he wants.
We have more power than needed for the singularity. Why do you assume AI must fit in a single device?
If the 3rd party breaks the law at the request of the government, it's treated as if the government broke the law themselves. Note, if Yahoo independently broke the law allowing them access to the emails, then provided those emails when requested, they didn't break the law at the request of the government, unless it can be shown that the initial law breaking was in response to a previous request by the government.
Stronger, lighter, cheaper, thinner? So many contradictions in there it's amazing because you're not getting all of those.
That you are dumb doesn't make something impossible. https://www.youtube.com/watch?... Oppo got rid of the jack, and ended up with a phone that was, at the time, the thinnest in the world, strong (with the video to prove it because so many idiots like you assume that thin and light mean weak), light, and much cheaper than anything close from Samsung. Sure, the jack wasn't the only reason this happened, but it was a contributing factor. Drop the jack, and make vast improvements in the design.
Exactly how is using a USB device easier then a simple plug?
Ask two people how a car is easier than a horse. One person from 1898, and one person from 1998.
USB is easier because it's universal. You have more options on location and presentation of the jack.
They have no drawbacks either, except for adding a few cents to the cost of the slave labor that makes your phone,
Space, weight, cost, and fragile. You missed some of the drawbacks of jacks. Also, re-read with the definition of "obsolete" being "old-fashioned". You might find that if your vocabulary is good, other people are easier to understand.
How do you run a software update to update your chromebook from quad-core A8 to 8-core A9? A USB-C phone and USB-C laptop converter will be good for 5-10 years, at least as long as the average laptop today, and much longer than the average phone.