Lets not step out and pretend we know something when we don't now.
Give me my coordinates in ANY map projection/datum, excluding the impossible coordinates that some projections may create outside their reasonable bounds... and thanks to the wonders of Proj4 (open source.. ohh! ahh!) or other easy to use projection conversion techniques, I'll spit back at you my lat/long.... geee, it's like I just used a new encoding of lat/long!
Unfortunately, your low/. number has not enlightened you to the reality here.
My coordinates where I'm sitting right now, whether expressed in lat/long, Nad83 UTM Zone 10N, BC Albers, or the patented MS encoded system all place me at the same location (within whatever accuracies you want to assume), just expressed differently.
The MS encoding system can absolutely be considered a projection... based on geographic coordinates and presumably the WGS84 or NAD83 datum.
Your whole arguement against me simply proved my point more.... Keep your eyes closed. Stay in the stone age while the rest of us benefit from what the location server will bring.
Of course it is a standard, of course it is for a type of interoperativity.
You must be unaware of the new MS location server.
Soon when all cell phones have GPS receivers built in, you will want to transmit your coordinates constantly... either to find your location (using mappoint no doubt), to find the nearest starbucks, to find whatever the heck it is you need to find relative to your position using any brand of cell phone / pda / laptop / etc.
Of course it will also allow pinpointed targetted spam, billboards will target you as you walk by.
The patent is simply covering one aspect of the method by which your location is transmitted to the location server.
Anyways, wake up, this is nothing more than simply a new map projection system, of which there are 10's of thousands already.
actually MS is simply creating a new map projection system.
It infringes nothing, and will be valid globally.
It is simply a way to transmit lat/long data more easily through a URL... oh, but i guess you didnt read the article!... so, when I read basically ANY map out there that has lat/long coordinates on it, am I somehow infringing on your uber NACS? NOO! In fact I'd say the NACS infringes on lat/long!
No, microsoft is not patenting latigude/longitude!
Don't any of you ignorant fools read the articles?
They are patenting a method of encoding lat/long coordinates for easier transmission as a URL parameter.
Essentially they have created their own numbering system to accurately take the place of lat/long numbers, to better suit their needs.
Now if any of you know anything at all about GIS, you realize that really they have just created their own map projection system.
Big fat hairy deal!
Don't like it?... use one of the other 10,000+ map projections out there! In fact, you wont even be using the new microsoft coordinate system in a visible way yourself, its just for transmitting the information better.
Basically if you are not an ignorant dumbass, then you already know that slashdot is just trying yet again to scare you about uber MS taking ultimate control of your world, by sucking you in with a meaningless patant story that they know you will mis-read and mis-understand.
Now why is MS making this patent?... Because of their upcoming location based information server system which shall revolutionize how you search for information, and how information is targetted at you.
Seen minority report? seen how the guy walks past an advertisement and it changes to target him specifically?... That will happen and it requires your precise location data. Add the location server to mappoint (with say 100x more map information), tack on a cheap GPS receiver, which your cell phone will soon have, and you are there.
yes, there will be a new kind of spam, but there will also be fast and simple methods for finding the nearest restaurant, nearest anything you need, from anywhere.
The internet shall become a mere plaything after the location server has gained momentum.
Why aren't more of you americans worried about the patriot act?
It destroys the rights given to you by the 4th and 6th constitutional amendments, yet your courts have not overturned the law for taking away those rights.
The patriot act has already been used by US law enforcement in several ways it was never intended for, because of the loopholes it gives into your privacy. Of course the Canadian government and governments elsewhere are concerned!... The patriot act makes it legal and simple for the USA to partake in MASSIVE corporate espionage, on a scale that makes the chinese spies look like inspector gadget!
Already, to hold a CIBC credit card here, you must accept that your personal information will be freely shared with the US government upon request.
As usual though, the ultra-protectionist bullshit laws will bite you americans back. The many companies based in the US that act as specialized centers for accounting, human resources, data management or anything else will be loosing massive amounts of business as the business gets pulled back to the side of the border where rights are not just proclaimed, but protected.
Now, you dumbasses, It is your responsibility as citizens of the US to defend the rights given to you by your constitution, you fight so hard for the imaginary right you think you have to bare arms.... why dont you put half that effort into protecting the real rights you have that the patriot act has stolen from you?
... you the customer are just too stupid to understand a mouse with more than one button, so by our computers because we respect your stupidity with a one button mouse.
You all think Slashdot is full o crap for posting the article on this blatant scam product.
You all missed the fact that by posting the article, the bastards are being bombarded and with any luck may be slashdotted right off the net for at least a little while... and by people smart enough not to actually buy the useless product.
Well Done Cowboy!
I now return you to your regular herd-like mentality.
The open source community could develop vacines far better than what Bill's donation will do.
Of course no one will ever know if they have exactly the right version for them, and by the time they figure out how to use the proprietory syringe the disease will have killed them.
$6500 cdn roughly for autocad 2005 with Civil 3D.... VERY BUGGY! and every time I try to start up other completely unrelated software, an installer for civil 3d pops up. acad is full of fatal errors and memory leaks that have you hitting save every 5 minutes.
Now, how about ESRI, the gods of GIS software, which you may not be aware is used extensively around the world by tens of thousands of companies...... EXTREMELY BUGGY!... the bugs are far too many to list, but for $25,000+ for a full one seat license, you'd think they would have reduced the bugs instead of multiplied them when going to the new version 9.... And wow, you gotta love how arcgis9.mxd files are indistinguishable from version 8.mxd files, except that they wont work with arcgis8, forcing you to shell out for the upgrade! I bet Microsoft dreams of being able to get away with that with their Office software.
and of course those prices dont include annual 'maintenance' fees of 10 to 20% which just allow you to get bug fixes.
yet another poor fool falls victim to his complete and utter lack of ability to understand or even detect sarcasm.
so to spell it out for you, nice and simple like for a simple guy like you to understand...
'biblical creation'... who's bible? bible simply means 'book'. The buddists have a creation theory, the Jews have a creation theory, the Muslems have a creation theory (yes those three groups are all really just stealing credit for each other's false god but you get the idea)... the thousands of other religions that you've never heard of all have their books that describe their creation theories, but because they have failed to brainwash large parts of the world's population we call them 'cults' rather than 'religions'
What makes you think that the one book you were forced to follow as a child is the one right book? Who is wrapped up in himself now?... open your eyes and accept that you live in one tiny narrow minded brainwashed part of society.
And since you so obviously failed to understand the 'book' idea... book! book! book!... the christian bible is a book, the Koran is a book, the torah is a book, and all of King's horror stories can be bought... as a book!... and you have failed to detect that all of those books are works of fiction.
First of all, do you really think anyone should use a browser that can only render perfect code that follows only one of the last 5 or 10 'standards'?
Cozziewozzie enjoying a night of surfing: "yipee! I run firefox! I get to enjoy mis-rendered websites 90% of the time because firefox only accepts XHTML!"
what's the point of learning proper anything when firefox doesn't follow it?
css style=block/none creates a new copy of the object rather than making the named object visible or hidden... who would like to jump on this and make a nice severe security exploit out of it? come on, I know you bastard hackers wanna!
accessing css through the document object model to flip an object's visibility (style=block or none) not only doesnt work, but creates a new copy of the object each time the function runs. hmmm creating a new object when no command was given to create a new object! sounds like a typical severe security flaw found in other softwares!
I never get tired of hearing how the search for WMD's has quietly been called off, having found absolutely no weapons, chemicals, radioactives,... nothing despite 1000 trained searchers and a billion dollars spent just by them..... You do recall how the leader of your new home ran right into Iraq supporting Bush based on a severe immediate threat, of how Saddam could launch a WMD attack within 45minutes if he wanted to. Launch what? a stink bomb? a bag of confetti? what? huh?
Canada was proven to be 100% right to not follow bush, 100% right on their suspicions that Bush was full o shit... and meanwhile US troops have murdered more innocent Iraqi's due to the military action than died in the Tsunami.
support bush or not, you damn americans deserve whatever tar the world paints you with.
Why would anyone gloat about a piece o crap software that doesn't support common standard tag parameters, and that breaks the document object model, making many simple css tricks and javascript functions useless?
Slashdot Mirror
Lets not step out and pretend we know something when we don't now.
... and thanks to the wonders of Proj4 (open source .. ohh! ahh!) or other easy to use projection conversion techniques, I'll spit back at you my lat/long. ... geee, it's like I just used a new encoding of lat/long!
/. number has not enlightened you to the reality here.
Give me my coordinates in ANY map projection/datum, excluding the impossible coordinates that some projections may create outside their reasonable bounds
Unfortunately, your low
Hey tool
... based on geographic coordinates and presumably the WGS84 or NAD83 datum.
... Keep your eyes closed. Stay in the stone age while the rest of us benefit from what the location server will bring.
Go learn something about map projections.
My coordinates where I'm sitting right now, whether expressed in lat/long, Nad83 UTM Zone 10N, BC Albers, or the patented MS encoded system all place me at the same location (within whatever accuracies you want to assume), just expressed differently.
The MS encoding system can absolutely be considered a projection
Your whole arguement against me simply proved my point more.
Tool.
Typical American.
Screw up, blame someone else for your screw up, then sue that person instead of taking any responsibility for your own dumbass move.
ignorance is bliss
but
your willful ignorance is just plain stupid.
And who's scared of what? 'Anonymous Coward'? huh?
Of course it is a standard, of course it is for a type of interoperativity.
... either to find your location (using mappoint no doubt), to find the nearest starbucks, to find whatever the heck it is you need to find relative to your position using any brand of cell phone / pda / laptop / etc.
You must be unaware of the new MS location server.
Soon when all cell phones have GPS receivers built in, you will want to transmit your coordinates constantly
Of course it will also allow pinpointed targetted spam, billboards will target you as you walk by.
The patent is simply covering one aspect of the method by which your location is transmitted to the location server.
Anyways, wake up, this is nothing more than simply a new map projection system, of which there are 10's of thousands already.
I do hope you realize that they have not patented the lat/long coordinate system.
They have simply patented a new way of encoding it for transmission within URL parameters.
When will you read the article?
MS has simply created a new map projection system, of which there are 10's of thousands.
They HAVE NOT patented lat/long.
actually MS is simply creating a new map projection system.
... oh, but i guess you didnt read the article! ... so, when I read basically ANY map out there that has lat/long coordinates on it, am I somehow infringing on your uber NACS? NOO! In fact I'd say the NACS infringes on lat/long!
It infringes nothing, and will be valid globally.
It is simply a way to transmit lat/long data more easily through a URL
No, microsoft is not patenting latigude/longitude!
... use one of the other 10,000+ map projections out there! In fact, you wont even be using the new microsoft coordinate system in a visible way yourself, its just for transmitting the information better.
... Because of their upcoming location based information server system which shall revolutionize how you search for information, and how information is targetted at you.
... That will happen and it requires your precise location data. Add the location server to mappoint (with say 100x more map information), tack on a cheap GPS receiver, which your cell phone will soon have, and you are there.
Don't any of you ignorant fools read the articles?
They are patenting a method of encoding lat/long coordinates for easier transmission as a URL parameter.
Essentially they have created their own numbering system to accurately take the place of lat/long numbers, to better suit their needs.
Now if any of you know anything at all about GIS, you realize that really they have just created their own map projection system.
Big fat hairy deal!
Don't like it?
Basically if you are not an ignorant dumbass, then you already know that slashdot is just trying yet again to scare you about uber MS taking ultimate control of your world, by sucking you in with a meaningless patant story that they know you will mis-read and mis-understand.
Now why is MS making this patent?
Seen minority report? seen how the guy walks past an advertisement and it changes to target him specifically?
yes, there will be a new kind of spam, but there will also be fast and simple methods for finding the nearest restaurant, nearest anything you need, from anywhere.
The internet shall become a mere plaything after the location server has gained momentum.
Why aren't more of you americans worried about the patriot act?
... The patriot act makes it legal and simple for the USA to partake in MASSIVE corporate espionage, on a scale that makes the chinese spies look like inspector gadget!
.... why dont you put half that effort into protecting the real rights you have that the patriot act has stolen from you?
It destroys the rights given to you by the 4th and 6th constitutional amendments, yet your courts have not overturned the law for taking away those rights.
The patriot act has already been used by US law enforcement in several ways it was never intended for, because of the loopholes it gives into your privacy. Of course the Canadian government and governments elsewhere are concerned!
Already, to hold a CIBC credit card here, you must accept that your personal information will be freely shared with the US government upon request.
As usual though, the ultra-protectionist bullshit laws will bite you americans back. The many companies based in the US that act as specialized centers for accounting, human resources, data management or anything else will be loosing massive amounts of business as the business gets pulled back to the side of the border where rights are not just proclaimed, but protected.
Now, you dumbasses, It is your responsibility as citizens of the US to defend the rights given to you by your constitution, you fight so hard for the imaginary right you think you have to bare arms
HAHAHAHAHAAH
modded as TROLLL!!!
wooohooo!
I successfully made an apple dumbass feel bad about his mouse proven stupidity!
The truth hurts a lot doesnt it?
hahahahahahahah
... you the customer are just too stupid to understand a mouse with more than one button, so by our computers because we respect your stupidity with a one button mouse.
You all think Slashdot is full o crap for posting the article on this blatant scam product.
... and by people smart enough not to actually buy the useless product.
You all missed the fact that by posting the article, the bastards are being bombarded and with any luck may be slashdotted right off the net for at least a little while
Well Done Cowboy!
I now return you to your regular herd-like mentality.
This also in!
... they will be the way of the future!
Computers!
The open source community could develop vacines far better than what Bill's donation will do.
Of course no one will ever know if they have exactly the right version for them, and by the time they figure out how to use the proprietory syringe the disease will have killed them.
You've obviously never used the software.
... VERY BUGGY! and every time I try to start up other completely unrelated software, an installer for civil 3d pops up. acad is full of fatal errors and memory leaks that have you hitting save every 5 minutes.
... ... EXTREMELY BUGGY! ... the bugs are far too many to list, but for $25,000+ for a full one seat license, you'd think they would have reduced the bugs instead of multiplied them when going to the new version 9. ... And wow, you gotta love how arcgis9 .mxd files are indistinguishable from version 8 .mxd files, except that they wont work with arcgis8, forcing you to shell out for the upgrade! I bet Microsoft dreams of being able to get away with that with their Office software.
$6500 cdn roughly for autocad 2005 with Civil 3D.
Now, how about ESRI, the gods of GIS software, which you may not be aware is used extensively around the world by tens of thousands of companies
and of course those prices dont include annual 'maintenance' fees of 10 to 20% which just allow you to get bug fixes.
I wish MS would enter the fields of GIS / Mining / and CAD software.
If the trend is true, then the days of spending anywhere from 4 to 80 THOUSAND dollars for a ONE seat license on these specialty softwares would end.
You think the MS monopoly is bad? you pay nothing compared to what Autodesk, ESRI, and others charge.
yet another poor fool falls victim to his complete and utter lack of ability to understand or even detect sarcasm.
...
... who's bible? bible simply means 'book'. The buddists have a creation theory, the Jews have a creation theory, the Muslems have a creation theory (yes those three groups are all really just stealing credit for each other's false god but you get the idea) ... the thousands of other religions that you've never heard of all have their books that describe their creation theories, but because they have failed to brainwash large parts of the world's population we call them 'cults' rather than 'religions'
... open your eyes and accept that you live in one tiny narrow minded brainwashed part of society.
... book! book! book! ... the christian bible is a book, the Koran is a book, the torah is a book, and all of King's horror stories can be bought ... as a book! ... and you have failed to detect that all of those books are works of fiction.
so to spell it out for you, nice and simple like for a simple guy like you to understand
'biblical creation'
What makes you think that the one book you were forced to follow as a child is the one right book? Who is wrapped up in himself now?
And since you so obviously failed to understand the 'book' idea
No, we shouldnt.
We also shouldnt be blind to all the glaring failures in Firefox.
Firefox is not the new messiah of browsing! It is riddled with problems that you must just blindly put up with
And no doubt once firefox really hits critical mass, displacing IE, the bastard hackers will simply switch to exploiting these problems.
First of all, do you really think anyone should use a browser that can only render perfect code that follows only one of the last 5 or 10 'standards'?
... who would like to jump on this and make a nice severe security exploit out of it? come on, I know you bastard hackers wanna!
Cozziewozzie enjoying a night of surfing: "yipee! I run firefox! I get to enjoy mis-rendered websites 90% of the time because firefox only accepts XHTML!"
what's the point of learning proper anything when firefox doesn't follow it?
css style=block/none creates a new copy of the object rather than making the named object visible or hidden
sensitive dumbass.
talking about firefox
colspan tag does not work.
accessing css through the document object model to flip an object's visibility (style=block or none) not only doesnt work, but creates a new copy of the object each time the function runs. hmmm creating a new object when no command was given to create a new object! sounds like a typical severe security flaw found in other softwares!
You get tired of it huh?
... nothing despite 1000 trained searchers and a billion dollars spent just by them. .... You do recall how the leader of your new home ran right into Iraq supporting Bush based on a severe immediate threat, of how Saddam could launch a WMD attack within 45minutes if he wanted to. Launch what? a stink bomb? a bag of confetti? what? huh?
.. and meanwhile US troops have murdered more innocent Iraqi's due to the military action than died in the Tsunami.
I never get tired of hearing how the search for WMD's has quietly been called off, having found absolutely no weapons, chemicals, radioactives,
Canada was proven to be 100% right to not follow bush, 100% right on their suspicions that Bush was full o shit.
support bush or not, you damn americans deserve whatever tar the world paints you with.
Why would anyone gloat about a piece o crap software that doesn't support common standard tag parameters, and that breaks the document object model, making many simple css tricks and javascript functions useless?
do you really think creationism was created by christians?
The 'red' states shall be the target. ... education through culling of the ignorant.