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Nanotech Brings Battery Life Extender for Mobiles
An anonymous user writes "Using latest nanotechnology research, BatMax developed the first cellphone battery life booster that extends the mobile phone battery life and reduces charging time. BatMax is based on the IonXR, a new exclusively developed nanoceramic material, resulting from years of laboratory research. BatMax foil slows down the loss of capacity of Ni-CD, Ni-MH, Li-Ion and Li-Polymer batteries and thus provides improved battery performance. BatMax is a small (1.14 x 1.92 in) rectangular sticker which is installed on the mobile phone battery. Users just need to attach BatMax to the battery or the cellphone. They claim users will notice a battery life improvement after 5 to 10 charging cycles."
Hopefully this will work with my antenna extender sticker!
Don't forget the magnets on your water pipes and on your fuel tank.
Oh, it is not april 1st yet? Sorry...
Kickass. Now we can talk on our phones for longer times, so that the phone companies can make more money out of us. I still think a better idea would be to create a more efficient power source, such as those small mini-reactors that use leftover waste from nuclear power plants. Those have a far greater energy potential...
And it will enlare your penis too
Yeah, sure.
I think this is something like that whole "Go-L" thing.
That is unless it works, then it'll be cool
It improves performance pretty much in the same way my pants make me more intelligent....
dammit, I was cheated. If only I had not spent that time pontificating I could have been first post. Oh what a cruel world that has such posters in it.
-"I'm one of those Mac people that will break a bottle on the bar and hold it to your throat for bad-mouthing my system"
shamelessly adding articles on /. that obviously are ADs for this and that?
I use these on condoms all the time.
I knew those Borg nanoprobes were good for something!
Just
A battery Sticker? You need to wait 5 to 10 charge cycles to notice anything? somehow this sounds like snake oil to me...
Sigs are for the weak.
Less than one second late, but still late...
I don't.
- A technical description that sounds like dialog on Star Trek Voyager.
- No phone number anywhere on the batmax.com site.
- The terms & conditions instruct you to send returns to an incomplete address:
- They used an anonymous domain proxy service to register their domain:
Come to your own conclusions.BatMax Corporation
Miami FL
USA
How on earth will applying a sticker to the plastic battery packaging do anything to the properties of the cell's discharge, recharge, memory effect and emotional intelligence? (I *might* have made that last one up)
I reckon it uses that little known electrochemical property, the "placebo effect"
Hockus-pockus, goggle-de-gook and mumbo-jumbo.
Apparently it'll do the dishes too!
Just check the streets of any major city: applying stickers to cars has been shown to improve perceived performance. Why not the same for mobile phones?
The website says it increases the life of laptop batteries too. From http://www.batmax.com/products-laptop.php Extends the battery life from 30% up to 2X Offers more time for working, playing DVD's, CD's and gaming. Provides longer idle time. Accelerates the charging time up to 40%. Rejuvenates the current batteries / Restores the original performances. Prolongs the total battery life span with up to 30% longer lifetime (total charging cycles). Eliminates the battery "memory" effect. Protects the battery by regulating and filtering the incoming current. Saves money by delaying the need for purchasing new batteries. But I cannot find an order page with the Batmax for laptops
IANAP (I am not a physicist) but this sounds really strange. I mean, it's a sticker.
Can anybody with more knowledge on this topic estimate if this could possibly/likely improve battery life (or reduce memory effects)?
I don't need a signature.
I have a couple of ideas about some other places where I could stick that!
;-)
And no, it's not where you're thinking
- "They misunderestimated me."
You be the judge. This sounds like something in the realm of the fake cell-phone antenna extenders.
Stick a sticker on a battery to extend its life ? Someone needs to get a life.
Well, since they have a Miami attorney listed at their testimonials, there can't be any doubt about this one.
I have nothing to say, just want people to read my cool new sig
I wonder if this thing will speed up the cold fusion generator I am using to run my water polymerisation machine..
This really sounds like a snakeoil product, all the sciencebabble with some roots in truth. The "extremely easy" application the low price etc.
I see the snake-oil purveyors are updating their vocabulary.
For the record: there is nothing you can stick on the outside of a battery to improve its performance.
-jcr
The only title of honor that a tyrant can grant is "Enemy of the State."
Can I put a sticker on my car's bumper to make it use less fuel? =p
I wonder...If I stick one on my fuel line, will it work like the double-your-gas-mileage gasoline ion chargers?
This flies in the face of science.
"nanoceramic material extracted from a natural stone"? How stupid do you have to be to believe this kind of thing?
Their claim that the material "has been tested and documented by several prestigious institutions, laboratories and universities" is as laughable as it is vague.
This is just another rip-off, like the recent article of those $299 "nanotech" devices (sending holographic beams into your gas tank to improve your mileage) that were actually just plastic stickers.
This is what we get for asking /. to dig into the submission queue :(
"I assumed blithely that there were no elves out there in the darkness"
From the website.
/. or the National Enquirer?
How it works:
The nanoceramic material is extracted from a natural stone and depending on the version, layered between 2 protective silicon foils or on 1 or 2 sides of a conductive sheet.
An adhesive and protective film are added to the foil (depending on the version) to attach BatMax to the battery.
The foil and the material are designed to:
Absorb the electromagnetic waves generated from the battery.
Generate a flow of negative ions.
Interact with the battery's internal electrolyte and ions.
What a bunch of BS!
Is this
Serously. Does it have "R-Type" printed on it in brushy letters? Will it help me play Duke Nukem Forever on the Phantom Game Console? Can I make a hat out of them and block the mind control rays?
"BatMax contains permeable material, which is able to directly affect the molecule level inside the battery [...]"
I usually carry my phone next to my um... thingy. I wouldn't like something to permeate on molekular level there...
Crivens! I kicked meself in me own heid!
Doesn't this technology belong to SCO ?
When did slashdot become free advertisement for quakery and fraud? I am a material scientist and I have never heard of anything you could stick on to a battery that would extend its life. Legitimate companies would never spend research dollars commercializing a product whose effects are so small that they show up "after 5 to 10 charging cycles." At any rate, the term "nanoceramic" should tip off the savy reader. How would a piece of any material improve the internal operation of a battery? Are they claiming that this magical sticker will change the material characteristics of the battery components themselves? Give me a break!
Oh come on! This is just stupid. Fuck, if this really works then I'm going to stick on of these to my forehead. Should boost my brain and result better performance with my projects.
ROFL.
:D
Thats a good one.
Beer. The only substance that can level any playing field.
http://www.denverpost.com/Stories/0,1413,36~33~267 0224,00.html
Sorry, this reeks of hoax.
The site doesn't even state where they are based, where the product is manufactured (except 'Asia'), and prefers to place a pic of an anonymous skyscraper. Riiight.
Pretty, professional looking site with lots of nice pics though, just may fool a few folk out there.
-- Manik Surtani
I don't buy it...
It sounds as fishy as the noeffectwhatsoever(tm) SmogBuster.
Btw. I'm going to start selling stickers that you you can put on your forehead. It will change your image for sure. Anyone wants to buy?
Bullshit!
can anyone think of something commonplace, that at the time seemed like total utter snake-oil lubed bullshit?
e = mc2 comes to mind, but not much else... Maybe fake boobs, but those can only be (hopefully 51% commonplace :p
it's just like getting spam, but on slashdot's frontpage instead
intellectual property law is philosophically incoherent. it is your moral duty to ignore it or sabotage it
These sorts of batteries don't use capacitance to store energy so how would changing it effect anything? As I have like 1 subject left in my chem degree I say this is a load of @#$@#$@#$
Sorry, CowboyNeal, you're at least 2 months early with this one.
When I am king, you will be first against the wall.
Seems like the hoaxters are aiming at the /. community now.
"Although it is not true that all conservatives are stupid, it is true that most stupid people are conservative."
Further reading of the BatMax website reveals that this magical technology works by releasing electrons with a wavelength of 5 to 10 microns. Which is total bullshit. Five to 10 microns is the length of fifty-thousand atoms. You will NEVER get an electron with wavelength that big emitted from anything, ever. At any rate, no electron could cross the electrically INSULATING battery case. Otherwise, you've got more problems than just a useless sticker on your battery. What we have here is just that, a useless sticker.
You can't possibly be referring to "Nan0tech r0x0r5", I'm not sure if it's the wisdom it expresses or the fact that it totally misses that this is a sham that more succinctly demonstrated the posters grasp of the material contained in the article.
-"I'm one of those Mac people that will break a bottle on the bar and hold it to your throat for bad-mouthing my system"
BatMax is designed to separate gullible people from their money, plain and simple. Consider the so-called "technical description" at http://www.batmax.com/technology-features.php:
"(1) The nanoceramic material is extracted from a natural stone and depending on the version, layered between 2 protective silicon foils or on 1 or 2 sides of a conductive sheet.
The magical stuff it's made of is "extracted" from "natural stone". Hey, if it's natural, it must be good, right? These guys are selling pieces of rock with adhesive.
The wavelength of the electron released from BatMax is around 3-40 microns, and is considered to be within almost the same range with the oscillation frequency of molecules inside the battery. These molecules are able to raise their oscillation energy and electricity generation by receiving electron wavelength from BatMax.
This is absolutely meaningless technobabble. "Receiving electron wavelength"? A previous poster is right, these guys have been watching too much Star Trek.
BatMax unblocks and regulates the flow of ions by generating an electro-magnetic cavity and oscillation frequency with negative ions emission. The ionization generated by BatMax has been mesured as a level reaching 30 times the value (7 - 8.000 Ions/cm3) of the ambiant air ionization (2 - 300 Ions/cm3). By the ions production, BatMax improves the electrodes oxidization.
So somehow, using the same principle as an air purifier, the BatMax magically provides "negative ions" (without any electrical contact to the battery, of course) and makes any battery work better. 100% complete hogwash.
I salute the BatMax promoters for their audacity at selling rocks as high tech accessories, and I can only pity those who shell out hard-earned money for them.
What they said...
The foil and the material are designed to: Absorb the electromagnetic waves generated from the battery.
Generate a flow of negative ions.
Interact with the battery's internal electrolyte and ions.
What they forgot to say...
THROUGH the battery's plastic case!
Oh come on give me a break... are they saying that the sticker operates on the battery's internal structure/chemistry through IMPERMEABLE PLASTIC?
Maybe if the sticker was coated in nanotech enhanced snake oil that would have worked, but with ceramic it's a tough call.
- "They misunderestimated me."
Alex Chiu devlops a ring which grants immortality, homeopathy can preserve the effects of chemicals even when diluted to less than one molecule per world's oceans' worth of water, and scientology can help you get rid of evil body theatens.
Oh, and you've all been educated stupid.
Sheesh, it's one thing to report on out-of-date speculation, and another thing to report on blatent hoaxes. What is this, the Weekly World News?
what the hell are the mods smoking nowadays. Get a FUCKING GRIP and REJECT crap like this before wasting my time reading it. :(
ive got better things to be doing, like waiting for the next anti-sco story
BatMax unblocks and regulates the flow of ions by generating an electro-magnetic cavity and oscillation frequency with negative ions emission. The ionization generated by BatMax has been mesured [sic] as a level reaching 30 times the value (7 - 8.000 Ions/cm3) of the ambiant [sic] air ionization (2 - 300 Ions/cm3). By the ions production, BatMax improves the electrodes oxidization.
I'll take two bridges please...
Did he inhale?
there may be some merit in shield a battery from RF, but I really cant see how an externally attached device can do ANYthing. Just changing some bad charging patterns will extend battery life.
There was an unknown error in the submission.
After modding my nano-ceramic sticker with a nano-trans-plasma-inducer I bought off eBay, I was able to achieve cold-fusion! I now have perpetual battery life and after whistling into my cell, unlimited anytime minutes and free long distance for life!
If only they can create a penis enlarging ring-tone like the breast enlarging one they made for those babes in Tokyo, I'll be the shizla!
How on earth can this thing even work?
From http://www.batmax.com/technology-features.php The foil and the material are designed to:
- Absorb the electromagnetic waves generated from the battery.
- Generate a flow of negative ions.
- Interact with the battery's internal electrolyte and ions.
OK, so it's outside the battery, insulated by the plastic case of the battery, yet it can still interact with the internal electrolyte and ions? Plus it generates a flow of negative ions... all by itslef?*COUGH*bullshit*COUGH!*
kai
Specialist Mac support for creative pros, Melbourne
..along with internet speedup spyware, stickers that improve mobile phone reception and bits of rubber that hang off the back of cars to stop passengers from getting sick.
Looks like this post was completely deliberate guys.
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Posted by CowboyNeal on Friday January 28, @05:47AM
His user name gets pointed to http://cowboyneal.org/
And look he reads http://forums.anti-slash.org/ as can be seen by the link to
http://forums.anti-slash.org/viewtopic.php?t=17(b
in this paragraph.
"Someone asked me the other day why there's no comments anymore here, but I'll let the transressors explain it. Basically trying to keep the comments clear of spam and idiots was taking far too much time for a site that's supposed to be my personal waste of time. It's too bad some people can't discern between one's career and one's personal web presence. They could have at least told me where they work so I could come down there and "terrorize" it, whatever the hell that means besides being an annoying asshole. I hope at least one of them had a nice time jerking themselves off afterwards.".
I quickly looked at the calendar but April 1st is some days to go
It's too early in the morning. Why on earth would anyone believe this? Heck the cell phone attenna extenders were more believable. To spice it up they could have just sold Nokia faceplates which extended battery life. At least then there would have been another "reason" to purchase one. Maybe CowboyNeal is posting in his sleep?
If you see spelling or grammatical errors don't blame me. I tried to preview but IE here at work borked the CSS
Slashdotted: Shutting down your mail server for 3 days can stop most spam.
Slashdotted: LCD screens have a latency measured in 100's of milliseconds.
Slashdotted: Putting a sticker on the back of your cell-phone that uses "nano-tech" can extract more life from the batteries.
CowBoyNeal: You are an idiot.
Sounds like SnakeOilWare to me...
where the fsk did they find this crap. LOL. fukme freddy. 2 months early cowboyneal.
the scary thing is they will find a few idiots who will order this technobabble bullshit fake-ass crap product.
how lame do you get?
I would put it on the screen of my Windows computer. I hope it make it faster.
Shouldn't this be under "It's Funny, Laugh"?
Today's weirdness is tomorrow's reason why. -- Hunter S. Thompson
I use BatMax technology on the Bat-Phone and in the Batcave, and it helps me extend my crime-fighting!
My Philips Xenium 9@9++ has a stand-by time of about a month. I bought it beginning of december and had to re-charge it twice since.
it has no color display or other toy-features.
Batmax as reviewed by /.
Thanks Guys...
I remember putting GTi on my homeworks in school and getting better grades.
with a herbal nanotech sticker.
Also increases the volume of - oh, that makes sense
I'd like to see a test.
five batteries from the same batch, run them through a few charge/discharge cycles (do not have to have phones, you -can- just test the batteries)
then, slap these stickers on two of the batteries, duct tape them up so you don't know which is which. drop in a box, shake, number jumbled batteries then run through more cycles.
note which two appear to have better performance, then take tape off and publish results.
course, I don't have the money or equipment to test and cycle the batteries, anyone with disposeable income and too much free time care to try this out?
...I got nothing.
Wow, this guy really pulled it off. The combination of nanotech and batteries obviously short-circuited CowboyNeal's brain and made him hit the "post" button without even reading the rest of the paragraph. And it's such obvious bullshit, too!
I bow before you, anonymous troll. Well done.
Are they claiming that this magical sticker will change the material characteristics of the battery components themselves?
:)
Actually, what they are claiming is:
The foil and the material are designed to:
Absorb the electromagnetic waves generated from the battery.
Generate a flow of negative ions.
Interact with the battery's internal electrolyte and ions.
Which makes absolute no sense
DON'T PANIC
It actually sounded plausible, until I realised they weren't talking about some new type of battery technology but rather a sticker.
I absolutely do believe it is possible to extend battery technology so they can hold more charge, last longer and so on, and then produce new generations of battery that have these features. I don't believe for one second that it's possible to have any such effect on an existing battery (at least, not without disassembling it).
Well, somebody successfully spammed /.
-- Steve
Checks the bullshit-o-meter [......./] - Yep, its maxed out.
A Cowboy Neal Post from an Anonymous submittion, it just reaks of the truth eh?!
Ok, I do feel like I should buy one of these, to put with my collection of tin foil hats, get rich quick schemes, lose weight now offers, penis extension offers, umm oh yeah and all my free iPod and Playstation 2's!
Feeeck.. Maybe the things claims are just a fancy shmancy way of saying "Reversing the polarity of the neutron flow!"
I must leave you all now, aparently my ride on the Hale Bopp comet has arrived.
-- Jim.
-- If at first you don't succeed, lie!
If this sticker is attached to your penis it will automatically enlarge to enormous proportions.
Also, works much better than viagra or cialis.
All you need to do is click this link to your bank and enter your credit card number, expiration data, social security and mother's maiden name.
Only then we will send you the magic sticker.
But that's not all, if you click within the next five seconds, we'll send you a second sticker, for your dog's cell phone absolutely free. That's right, two magic stickers for the price of one.
Still, not convinced? We'll throw in a Rolex watch replica and a free subscription to H.O.t.Pr.0.N.
Notice the bits they choose to highlight in bold in their terms and conditions on the batmax site
"However, it is possible that it may contain technical inaccuracies or typographical or other errors."
"You agree that your placement of an electronic order on the BatMax site is sufficient to satisfy the Statute of Frauds"
Just wrap BatMax around your fuel line and watch power and gas mileage increase 50%. But wait, there's more! The negative ion release from your car will passify all aggresive drivers around you as your tail pipe releases pleasant fragrant odors of roses. And, as an added bonus, the BatMax patch will give you an added high from the release of negative energies around you.
Too good to be true...
Get your Kicks on Route 66
There are certainly no "waves" escaping from a battery, thus there is no high frequency apparatus inside such a device. The technical staff who wrote this "story" on batmax.com should no that the internal chemical compound of a battery does not radiate anything while decaying. Entropy in a battery can or will not change by encapsulating the battery in any materials.
Somehow everything is slipping out of the + - poles Watson, please stop it with your hand!
In order to form an immaculate member of a flock of sheep one must, above all, be a sheep.
Heaters are common and can improve performace greatly in cold enviorments.
FRA: STFU GTFO
I have a sticker which saia "centrino" on my laptop and now it is twice as fast!
10 ?"Hello World" life was simple then
Buy my stickers, put one on your forehead and women will find you irresistable. I guarantee you will sleep with up to 6 more women per week**
** Please note: "up to 6" covers all integers below six, including zero and negative numbers
"Please push."
FRA: STFU GTFO
I've been hearing about these stickers for a few weeks... just have a look at http://www.batterylife.de/BatteryLifew -- strikingly similar. According to them it's a japanese invention. And maybe the new "startup" thingie out there?
Send me your money and I'll send you a lucky charm that is 100% guaranteed to keep intruders away! As a side-effect it may improve your server performance 5-10%!!!
From the Terms and Conditions:
"BatMax Corporation will assume no liability for any inaccuracy found in the web site, documentations, packaging, photos, images, graphs, manuals, advertising, promotional material, publications..."
IANAL, so answer me this: Can a company really make any claims they want to and protect themselves with a statement like this?
They always have. Its just now Slashdot is so desperate for cash they're actually accepting the stories.
I don't think Slashdot is going to last much longer if this sort of thing continues.
http://twitter.com/onion2k
people who sell BS shall feel their poularity on their traffic bill...
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so, check out their highly interesting high-res pictures (10 MB each link)
http://www.batmax.com/presskit_files/batmaxproduc
http://www.batmax.com/presskit_files/batmaxproduc
http://www.batmax.com/presskit_files/onbattery_hi
http://www.batmax.com/presskit_files/oncellphone_
It sure sounds like those "parabolic" TV antennas guaranteed to boost your reception after just a few viewings, doesn't it? Not to be cynical, but:
Using latest nanotechnology research, (we read an issue of Wired)
EricBatMax developed the first cellphone battery life booster that extends the mobile phone battery life (which is why we call it a "battery life booster")
and reduces charging time. BatMax is based on the IonXR, a new exclusively developed nanoceramic material, (we grind ceramic tiles into a fine dust)
resulting from years of laboratory research (it was hard to grind them small enough).
BatMax foil slows down the loss of capacity of Ni-CD, Ni-MH, Li-Ion and Li-Polymer batteries (we guarantee it works the same on all of these)
and thus provides improved battery performance (not to be redundant again).
BatMax is a small (1.14 x 1.92 in) rectangular sticker (we sandwich the dust between some sticky aluminum foil)
which is installed on the mobile phone battery (the hard part was keeping it really thin).
Users just need to attach BatMax to the battery or the cellphone (where they'll quickly forget about it once the cover's back on).
They claim users will notice a battery life improvement after 5 to 10 charging cycles (by then the placebo effect should kick in).
The Vioxx recall and spam reduction
by signing up as a distributor and getting one of their samples, and give us an independent 3rd party report?
h p
Sign up to be a distributor here:
http://www.batmax.com/distributor_enroll.p
Grump
Is it true that more people vote for the winner of American Idol, than vote for the president? -Ali G.
my foil is fraying-- i just ordered a dozen of these puppies and figure i can stitch them together into a new cap in an hour or so and HOO BOY i'll FINALLY be as smart as those aliens who keep beaming into my head, since nothing can stop those beams, so i might as well improve my gray matter's ionization oscillation potentialized frequency... potential.
Let me help you guys with this one with some technical details..
"Inside the battery" - this is where all the clever stuff happens, the result of thousands of man-hours of research by large companies trying to optimise the efficiency of their product.
"Outside the battery", or "the outside world" - is isolated from the clever inside bits by a hefty layer of plastic, so that the battery can survive and work even in hostile environments.
So, we can conclude that sticking a piece of material (made of ceramic, silicon, heck even salami) on the outside is not likely to produce any measurable effect on what happens on the inside..
"You lied to me! There is a Swansea!"
Seriously, all I want to know is which fucking 'tard approved this story. You know what else - I might have believed it for 5 minutes if was a fully enclosing wrap-around sticker or small container, maybe even long enough to have bought one, but a sticker!? WTF!? these guys must really be marketing to the low end idiot.
This comment does not represent the views or opinions of the user.
Having posted this stinker at 5:47AM, one can only assume that Cowboy Neal got to work earlier than usual and left his judgement asleep in bed. Quick! FEDEX coffee grounds to /. HQ and help save the poor fellow further embarrassment.
And after every order, you'd get a notice telling you you might be entitled to a portion of their ongoing bankruptcy settlement.
Mail? Put "slashdot" in the subject to pass the spam filters.
CowboyNeal just lost a big amount of my respect after posting that. Sure, it's slashdot, and not only stories that survive close scrutiny are posted here, but this really screams "SNAKE OIL" just as much as your average penis enlargement spam, so... did he even *read* the submission before posting (and frontpaging) it?
quidquid latine dictum sit altum videtur.
From the BatMax terms and conditions:THE CONTENT ON THE SITE MAY CONTAIN INACCURACIES AND TYPOGRAPHICAL ERRORS. BATMAX DOES NOT WARRANT THE ACCURACY OR COMPLETENESS OF THE CONTENT OR THE RELIABILITY OF ANY ADVICE, OPINION, STATEMENT, PRICE AVAILABILITY OR OTHER INFORMATION DISPLAYED OR DISTRIBUTED THROUGH THE SITE. YOU ACKNOWLEDGE THAT ANY RELIANCE ON ANY SUCH OPINION, ADVICE, STATEMENT, PRICE AVAILABILITY, OR OTHER INFORMATION SHALL BE AT YOUR SOLE RISK.
;)
Translation: What we tell you on this site may well be a damn lie. If you choose to believe it, it is not our problem. You have been warned.
Talk about hiding info in plain sight. This is well hidden in the CAPS only text on the agreement that no user (at least no one I know) ever reads. IANAL, but it looks watertight.
[edit] Slashdot software detected the quote and WHAM!: "Lameness filter encountered. Post aborted!" Wonder why this didn't work when the news was posted
Just
We've come to accept nonsense like this from Michael, but I thought CowboyNeal was usually a little more discriminating.
An apology would be nice.
We've removed the hackaday reposts and added a sophisticated marketing news filter!
I can not believe that this post has made its way into the front page. Whoever is checking posts at /. should be immediately fired.
Anyway, once this post has been proved as absolutely nonsense, it should have been removed from the page long ago. In my country, Spain, false advertisement is illegal, isn't it in the US?
In related news, BatMax just announced that they hired CowboyNeal as the new head of their PR department.
quidquid latine dictum sit altum videtur.
holy shit, that was funny. that'll hold me over til april first.
you gotta give them credit for creativity, though. they're taking over where the cellphone antenna booster left off! HMMM... there's an idea. a combo gift pack of the BATMAX and the ANTENNA BOOSTER! with detailed instructions for both, including the warning sticker: DO NOT interchange these devices -- it may cause total plasmic collapse of all surrounding ions, including the ones in YOUR HEAD.
(i'm gonna go puke now)
..comes a revolutionary new device that has too many contradicting claims to be false. When CherryOS was never released, they must have come upon another idea.. to create a product that is also available to buy in all non-existant appliance stores. [Note: I don't claim that CherryOS and Batmax really come from the same company.]
In Germany this thing has already been tested by magazines and TÜV (_the_ authority in testing technical devices etc).
The results show it actually extends battery life.
Yet noone can explain why or how it works.
Maybe I could lace a condom with this stuff, it will improve how long I will last and improve recovery time!
Nah, it will never work...
Maybe CowboyNeal is just making sure we all stay sharp with this post. Or maybe its because it's frackin' 4 AM.
Don't take life so seriously. No one makes it out alive.
I mean, we can now get power over networks, so any network capable phone ought to be able to be powered wirelessly. All you gotta do is harness the power of a sticker containing about a half billion RFID tags
"Waste not one watt!" - CZ
To even further improve the effectivity of the BatMax and even increase the range of your mobiles, my company will offer a special nanotech tinfoil.
;-)
Prices are from only $1 per square foot!
If the product doesn't have the desired effect, you can return it to SKM&C, Netherlands....
Credit card payments are, of course, welcome.
Refunds at our discretion
Caveat Emptor: this message won't selfdestruct if you memorize it!
Fire the person who approved this story. There's a clear reason why the submitter was anonymous: this product is complete bullsh*t.
And after he found out it didn't work, he decided to /. the site.
- wacco
The suckers ditched physics. Screw'em.
There's also the effect that if you've spent $XX dollars on a gadget, you're likely to be much more attentive to your phone's needs. Sorta like getting one of those mileage-enhancing cow-magnets-- it's hard to NOT drive with a gentler foor on the gas.
At any rate, no electron could cross the electrically INSULATING battery case
You sya that now, but what if you crank the p.d. up to 1GV?
And in other news, the energizer bunny and pfizer create a sick-on patch that keeps you going and going and going and.....
I guess I'll have to ask the Mozilla foundation to extend the spamfilters to RSS feeds in the next release...
Caveat Emptor: this message won't selfdestruct if you memorize it!
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With precision-bioengineering at the nanoscale level this space-age discovery could undoubtedly syncronize with the pulse to promote blood flow and essential extension when needed. Shaped for action and featuring convenience hip straps this dual-action product is guaranteed to satisfy her.
You don't see the point was this isn't great for batteries, no it is the new foil and technology for tinfoil hats. Imagine using the ionization of thought control beams to focus your positive thinking ions by donning a fashionable helmet graced with this amazing technology.
French Connection UK this is article is like the late night infomercials that disguies themselves as documentries.
Oh well it was a good laugh
I was thinking of the immortal words of Socrates, who said: "I drank what?" - Chris Knight (Val Kilmer)- Real Genius
I literally paid money to see this crap on the front page. Time for the Cowboy to go back on the "don't show me these editor's stories on the front page" list. What a bloody joke.
These people seem to be selling something remarkably similar.
This sentence no verb.
I'm not saying that I believe them, but arguing wavelength by compating to the size of atoms sounds a bit dodgy to me. For reference, 5 to 10 microns is in the wavelength band of infrared radiation, quite close to visible light (REF: http://www.krysstal.com/spectrum.html). Granted, they are claiming electron emission, not foton, but I just think there are much better arguments against this tech.
And it does this *without making any electrical contact to the battery*! That's what the instructions say - do not cover battery contacts. Works by osmosis! Wow. The likelihood of this being anything other than yet another internet scam and about the same as Idi Amin impregnating Jessica Simpson.
I saw this product a few days ago and it was immediately obvious that it was total, undiluted bullshit. How the hell does this make it to the front page? What's next? Homeopathy?
"Physics is to math as sex is to masturbation." -R. Feynman
And why is it on my frontpage?
I declare this the moment Slashdot officially jumped the shark. Honestly, if this story doesn't get updated, pulled, or at least shuffled off to the humor section, I'm canning CowboyNeal stories in my preferences. Pulling any more crap report/editing like this (including the increasingly annoying Engadget related blog linking shit) only means I'll eventually ditch this site completely.
Short of re-designing the battery internally,
..."
this faus device isn't worth $00.02. Apparently,
the "inventor" ran out of "perpetual motion
machine" and "cold fusion" marks, hence the new
"invention".
The poster used far too many buzz words and far
too little science to make any valid case --
"Nothing to see here. Move on
They have made a great capacitor. Actually, if the stone would be very thin, or had micropores (like this one) they could indeed solve a lot of the current battery problem. Unfortunately they use it in a perfectly wrong way.
dammit, I just bought 3 of those
This reminds me of the antenna boosters that were being sold a while back. They always had a claim of being used by the military and showed a HMMWV with one on the antenna. Even funnier was seeing cellphones with the stupid big balls on the antennas.
I always laughed at those. Yes the Army put balls on the antennas, so they won't poke anybody in the eye.
Guys like these make Star Trek science sound good.
----- If communism is a system where the government owns business, what do you call a system where business owns govern
Sounds like a fancy way of saying "ceramic capacitor"
Now if adding a capacitor paraller to the batter would considerably increase battery life, I'd assume cellphone manufacturers would have done it already.
(Unless there is a conspiracy to sell more batteries, FNORD)
http://www.batterylife.de/ as featured on the inquirer earlier this week.
This is just another scheme to make some money from uneducated idiots. If someone is so stupid to buy that thing he/she doesn't deserve anything but to loose that money. However, those criminals don't deserve to get it!
They claim they developed this BatMax technology over several years in the BatCave.
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The picture of their building was obviously taken from this site.
1) Blocks evil cell phone radiation from damaging your brane.
2) Tremendously improves the reception range of your phone.
3) Increases battery life AND
4) Releases pheromones to attract members of the opposite sex.
"National Security is the chief cause of national insecurity." - Celine's First Law
It seems like nothing more than a daisychained micro thin bettery.
For the other cynics - thier site has some photos of it, thier site would cost a lot of design, thier site has a pda section with some japanese text on the photo....
The product is real af far as in the info to the packaging is concerned, as to whether it really really works, I will leave this to science.
Does it just insulate the battery?
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Some say they are likely to introduce Robix technology, that makes mobile phones smaller and much more colorful (mostly shades of red) than those that are using BatMax.
This seems like a good moment to plug the Penn and Teller series Bullshit.
/. doing posting a story like this? Or am I just new here?
I have so much more respect for the power of suggestion after seeing people try out bottled water brands in a nice restaurant and then say they're so good that they'd pay $6 a bottle for them (and go on for hours about the differences between each bottle). The bottles were all, of course, filled from the hose out back.
Ditto for the people who try out magnetic-therapy gloves, declare that their pain is gone and that they can feel the power as the magnets pass near their skin, and say that they'd pay $30-200 for them. The magnets are, of course, demagnetized.
But what the HELL is
xkcd.com - a webcomic of mathematics, love, and language.
I checked this company to see if they were partners of Vend-a-Temp. Their current partner list suggests not but surely it can ony be a matter of time.
So...either someone owns stock in this silly product or is trying to get their website /.ed.
Either way, this is cheap - wtf is this even doing here?
*sigh* what's next, miricle penis elargement pill's under the Science page :(
I can't believe that Slashdot would even consider posting such a hoax as a newsworthy article. Honestly! This is just like those stickers that you stuck on your phone that were "guaranteed" to boost your cell phone's range.
Electromagnetic waves? From a battery? Aside from a very very very small magnetic field generated inside the battery, and being techincal, the infrared emissions of a warm battery, there is no significant electromagnetic radiation from chemical batteries. And if there was, absorbing them would represent a loss of energy.
If this device is generating a flow of negative ions passively, then it's draining the battery. Internal ion flows discharge batteries, and battery disigners spend countless hours trying to figure out how to prevent spurious chemical interactions in batteries that aren't part of a circuit.
This one should be immedately obvious to anyone whose handled a battery, because in most case they are hermetically sealed, wrapped in plastic a few times, and sealed in a plastic case.
For crying out loud, BUY AN AD!
... check to see if this story was submitted by Roland Piquepaille?
I've got a fever and the only prescription is more COBOL.
This deserves at least a vacation from the CowboyNeal poll options...
I really, really hope they got the cash in advance!
air conditioner?
I hear cooling really helps electronics along....
every day http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Random
Their only testimonial is from a Miami Attorney. Either his name was pulled out of a hat, in which case he might sue them, or he is a total moron. On http://www.batmax.com/testimonials.php his name is Joshua P. Bratter. He looks like a real guy ...
http://www.google.com/search?q=Joshua+P.+Bratter
You stick BATMAX IonXR onto CowboyNeal's head?
/.? Worth a try...
Would the nanoceramic 5-30 micron electron-releasing sticker excite the brain neurons so that only real stories get posted to
I'm still waiting for Mr. Popeil's voice to come on saying 'But wait! There's more!'
Buy three and get a free ginzoo 2000 sticker. Put on the handle of your knife, and the blade will be sharp forever!
And they said zombies weren't real!
How about adding Update: This is clearly a snake-oil scam, sorry for posting it.
I heard of a guy with a pace-maker who tried to stick one of these onto his battery but touched the NANOTECH sticker by mistake and suffered a myocardial infarction (although admittedly only after 4 recharge cycles).
It's true! I saw it on a web page!
well, as far as false techno-babble goes, i do see a plethora listed in the slashdot posters comments as well. its just as funny to see a legion of nerds attack things they know nothing about. kind of like the cherryOS phenom. im in no way saying it isnt a total scam, but come on, make sense before you comment. [quote] So somehow, using the same principle as an air purifier, the BatMax magically provides "negative ions" (without any electrical contact to the battery, of course) and makes any battery work better. 100% complete hogwash. [end quote] really? you cant effect electricity without contact? ever heard of a transformer? ever heard of a clip-on noise filter? ever run your signal line to a car stereo next to the power line? come on people. dont justify turds. just flush them.
Does this make sense as well, that they've spent years researching this but their company only started in 2004? What a load of crap. And then in the About Us section they show a picture of a huge skyscraper, so I guess we are supposed to believe that a) their company is in that building or b) their company owns that building. Most likely it is c) One guy works out of his grandmother or mother's basement on this crappy scam project.
Can anybody identify the building they pretend to be based in? See their "About Us" page. It's not in my street, I can tell you.
I think the buzzword for this year is going to be 'nano'. it just makes everything high tech.
...another step to a green battery?!
Is it just me, or does their "installation guide">installation guide resemble alot lke one would paint flames to his or her bike/car/whatever?
How to apply a sticker, now in 6 easy steps!
Just stick this magnet to the side of you electricity meter....
oh wait thats off topic, it actually works!
It was the battery's eloctromagnetic waves that did it for me. Apparently they're absorbed by the thin bit of ceramic stone.
The thing is, if you could effect a battery by proximity - perhaps by firing lots of electrons at it, then what happens to the poor person who puts this radioactive material in their trouser pocket? That's called radiotherapy, and is not very nice (especially in that region of the body).
I was hoping for something that replaced the battery (a new imperovement on Li Ion), or some form of external power source to plug into the charger socket. Oh well.
Stay away from that link. It doesn't actually go to Fark.
http://www.machinadynamica.com/machina27.htm
But hey, maybe this thing can warp time as well!
Fenton's Computer Purchase Law:
"Hurry up and buy now before the price goes down"
This kind of snake oil is just as bad as the Skype hype we have been subjected to lately. Slashdot used to be for geeks with clue.
Geeks with clue would not buy this battery hype. Better batteries are under constant development as are fuel cells. Let's hear more about the real deal.
Geeks with clue would not fall for the Skype hype. We know that SIP is the standard for VoIP and that there are free SIP softpones like XTen as well as services like Free World Dialup and SIPPhone which make SIP available to the common man. Let's hear more about this stuff.
My wife has been asking me for years what I plan to do with the 7 foot ball of foil I have been saving in my garage. Now, if I can just borrow some nano technology from my neighbor we'll be in business.
Red Alert! Shields up! This is a SCAM.
Their web site is full of errors, omissions, misspellings, inaccuracies and "techno-babble".
google for batmax+scam and you will see what I mean.
Also google found an email attributed to the CEO of this company and the English in it was so horrible it sounded like a Nigerian 419 scam/spam email.
If the company was founded in 2004 as per their website, why areall the pages on their website copyright 2003?
They hav testimonials!. No fake product could possibly have a testimonial. Just read this one from their site:
"In today's virtual workplace, one's cellphone is a veritable lifeline to the office. As the office model continues to move towards remote settings, the role, and importance of the cell phone, and its battery life is critical to "working on the move." I have spent countless days at airports, watching in horror as my phone battery life, diminished in the midst of a critical phone call. Batmax reduces charging time, increases the battery life, and does so without cumbersome cables and attachments, in a non-intrusive fashion. As we become more reliant on cellphones, Batmax is a critical tool in enhancing the overall use, and performance of your cellphone."
-Joshua P. Bratter, Attorney, Miami FL
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It had a capacitator in it. It makes perfect sense as cellphones don't draw a steady current, instead they seem to need current in pulses.
FRA: STFU GTFO
Several years of research have resulted in blabla..
Yet their company was founded in Januari 2004
"The day Microsoft makes a product that doesn't suck is the day they make a vacuum cleaner."
The mechanical stress causes the partial decomposition of the electrodes and metal particles float within the electrolyte.
What??
The Inquirer is running an article headlined Battery life extender gives 18% boost about a similar product from BATTERYLIFE.
But do the maths using the figures in the article - the increase is less than 3.9%.
If you've ever read the advertisements for various other things in the realm of naturopathy and newagey type stuff, the description of BatMax is like deja vu. I don't remember where it was, but I once saw a company selling what were essentially $300 glorified extension cords which supposedly improved the performance of *any electric device* you plugged into it.
I found a press release on another site, which actually lists a real person:
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Alain Aisenberg / Tel: (305) 865-1400
Email: alain.aisenberg@batmax.com
Our boy also seems to be a bit of an inventor:
http://www.freshpatents.com/Modular-computer-us
What ever happened to the time when Nanotechnology meant millions of tiny robots that swarmed through your bloodstream to repair artery damage and self-replicated? It's been turned into just another buzz-word for marketing hype. Like putting rocket fins on a Chevy.
The foil and the material are designed to:
Absorb the electromagnetic waves generated from the battery.
Generate a flow of negative ions.
Interact with the battery's internal electrolyte and ions.
1. Batteries do not generate electromagnetic waves. Batteries are DC, hence no oscillation of electric fields, thus no EM waves.
2. What happens when the negative ions interfere with that little device I saw on TV that is supposed to get rid of negative ions. I guess I have to choose between my cellphone and my chakras being aligned.
3. How can something that is electrically isolated from the battery interact with its internal components.
I'm sorry, but this smells like pseudoscientific bullshit. Why are we being subjected to this?
The same people who brought you Cold Fusion!
Sure.. ya.. right...
Warning : Scam in progress
---- Booth was a patriot ----
I mean really, ION's are supernatural in nature, hell I have a hair drier that uses them why not a "Uber Battery Improver" - gonna get copyright on that, so don't even try! -.
/.'ers complain, I will sue you for hate crimes against the all mighty ION.
People will try anything, I mean anything. The worst part is when you tell your cousin she's an idiot for paying someone $50 to install a Transistor on the backplate of her watch to "Amplify the good energy flowing through her body", she gets all huffy and calls you on the carpet for your sacrilegious hate speech.
I'm off to invent a self producing ION injection headband for joggers. And if any of you
Does this sticker go on top of, or underneath the antenna signal improvement sticker?
What are the BatMax's undesirable effects ?
There is no undesirable effect. BatMax is totally safe for the user, the cellular phone and the battery.
There is no effect on the cellular signal and reception.
Im so glad the magic pixie dust (that increases my charge) doesnt get in the way
another
BatMax is not adapted to my cellphone battery size, what can I do ?
BatMax size can be reduced (with scissors) to adapt the size to the available surface, if necessary.
But keep the maximum surface covered to have maximum battery life improvement.
with scissors? now thats scientific !
it must be...
I speak for none other than myself when I say this "News Item" is final proof to me that the Slashdot of today is but a former shadow of itself.
HOW IN THE HELL DID THIS MAKE IT ON SLASHDOT!?!?!?
I'm left with two possible reasons
1) The editors have sold out and are now being paid by PR firms to post press releases as news stories
2) The editors don't have a clue about what they are posting.
Neither of these are acceptable to me.
We are but the sum of our experiances
...stupidity that matters.
On one part of the page it lists common ways to maximize your battery life.
Make sure to charge the battery fully and drain it fully before recharging. This will properly condition the battery and will ensure that it will operate at its maximum capacity. This is recommended for all cellphone batteries. You can discharge most cellphones by unplugging the power adapter and leaving it turned on until completely discharged.
This is NOT TRUE for lithium-ion, lithium-poly, and nickel metal hydride batteries. Letting these batteries fully discharge ruins them. You'd think a company that's done "years of research" in battery science would know this.
God is real unless declared integer.
I suggest a kick and ban of the IP address block of the user that posted the article.
Anyone else in agreement?
(I bet a whois would result in a listing in either Miami or Scottsdale, Arizona)
Inject
Nanobots on a cellphone, near the ear canal, near the brain.
I smell a global domination scheme.
Wow, just can't wait to hook up my cellphone to my Thestatika Machine as soon as i've installed this device!
This sounds amazingly similar to the recent product that claims to increase a car's MPG. It's just a small plastic rectangle that you place on the bottom of your gas tank. And from tests, it IS just a small piece of plastic. Wonder if it's the same company?
--
Think of your favorite sig line and imagine it here
walking the line between wisdom and insanity. Looks like you crossed that line, did you take a run up?
two pieces of natural quartz, when struck together, generates a spark.
Clearly, they smashed two stones together to impress venture capitalists, and had to spew some BS PR for it in their second round of funding.
sadly, getting a fp Slashdot article will probably fill their coffers again.
cyn, free software and *nix operating systems enthusiast.
Will it work as well as that sticker I put on my car gas tank to improve fuel economy and reduce emissions?
Free Scotland!
If this works for a single layer, this should work even better with a bunch of em together!
And Soon... BatMax will have it's own entry at http://www.skepdic.com/!
What? It should extend the life of any body part I stick it on, right?
if anyone on slashdot believes this shite im going to start reading kuro5in instead!!!! who the fuck put this on the front page? ohh yeah of course its cowpiemeal
Soundproofing Acoustics noise
This writeup should be deleted or at least have an Update: This technology is complete bullshit. Do not buy it or do anything but laugh at it.
My suggestion: Update from CowboyNeal: Sorry for the bogus story, I don't really have time to read Slashdot submissions what with all the ordering of penis enlargement kits and discount Rolexes I have to do. But I'm currently in negotiations with deposed Nigerian officials that I can't go into detail about because they requested discretion but it should net us enough to hire more editors. I thought it would go faster but you wouldn't believe the red tape involved!
It was here just a minute ago.
I'm already awaiting a patenet for something like this, except there is a wire that runs from the hat to the specialized metalic filter that you place between your cell phone and battery. By Ionizing thoughts and then directing them to your cell phone to increase antena reception and increase battery life. You can even get a 1000% increase in bettery life nad reception if you were to use the device during a thunder and lightning storm. Cost $9.99. Hurry before they are laa gone!!!
Congratulations. /. got a mention in the JREF forums for this story.& threadid =51924
http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?s=
Quite rightly too.
My thought was that this was a spoof/parody site since they don't actually accept orders or payments.
Black bean looking things are boring.
BatMax makes the background orange!!!!! (Without affecting the ion reading!)
Ready for another?
Unaliased graphs are gross!
Mmmmm... Much better. Notice the change in the shape of the graph, especially at the start... Who knew that aliasing a graph could be so useful?
WTF? This is BatMAX product is right up there with those sticker EMF blockers. Slashdot mods who posted this need to have their heads examined. Putting a sticker on a battery will do nothing more then maybe trap a little more heat in the battery and shorten its life.
These stickers have been a fad for a few months in Japan and the company's claims have been totally debunked by the Japanese news. They did an investigative report (I think the station BS1) and used university scientists to test the claims of the company. After a few weeks of experiments in the lab, there was no noticeable difference. They flat out said it was a fraud. They even confronted the ceo of the company who refused to answer their questions on camera.
IAAEE as well (though my MS is in CS), and I think that the whole "ion" thing is nonsense. However, they do take a significant amount of dust out of the air, without using a filter that needs replacing.
Floating face-down in a river of regret...and thoughts of you...
1. Accept money to advertise a product so obviously fake as to barely keep a straight face while cashing the cheque.
2. Post information on slashdot knowing full well it will be ridiculed, critiqued, laughed at, and widely exposed for the fraud it is.
3. Comedy.
4. Profit!
(Seriously people. I realize it's more fun to think you might be smarter than the Slashdot editors, and you may even be right. But let's face it; even they wouldn't be suckered by this. But posting it so that every self-important "intellectual" wank can feel better about themselves by loudly bashing and ripping apart the fraud entertains them, evidently entertained you enough to read this far and post, and in the end just brought more readership and more attention to Slashdot.)
"To pass through the jungle; silence, courtesy, ferocity, as the occasion demands." -- Kamau, "Proper Passage"
Regenerate and stimulate your brain while protecting yourself from alien infiltration. Sleep Less, get smarter!
The ion's flow is no longer operating correctly, thereby reducing battery life.
The heat due to charging-discharging cycles and the movement and accumulation of ions to the electrodes causes a mechanical alteration in volume (expansion + contraction) for a approximative value of 7-9% of the total volume.
The mechanical stress causes the partial decomposition of the electrodes and metal particles float within the electrolyte. These uncharged metal particles cannot be ionized anymore.
The wavelength of the electron released from BatMax is around 3-40 microns, and is considered to be within almost the same range with the oscillation frequency of molecules inside the battery. These molecules are able to raise their oscillation energy and electricity generation by receiving electron wavelength from BatMax.
BatMax contains permeable material, which is able to directly affect the molecule level inside the battery and BatMax reintegrates the uncharged particles into the electrical circuit.
BatMax reduces electrical loss by optimizing the ions transfers between the battery cells and maintaining a stable voltage.
BatMax dissolves and helps to prevent the crystalline formation caused by the oxidation, so the electrons can move freely between the anode and cathode and the battery recovers the same performance as a new one. BatMax improve the electrolytic conductivity for a better ions flow and reactivate the inactive and uncharged particles.
BatMax unblocks and regulates the flow of ions by generating an electro-magnetic cavity and oscillation frequency with negative ions emission. The ionization generated by BatMax has been mesured as a level reaching 30 times the value (7 - 8.000 Ions/cm3) of the ambiant air ionization (2 - 300 Ions/cm3). By the ions production, BatMax improves the electrodes oxidization.
BatMax starts its effect on the battery just after installation and users will notice an increase in battery life
and charging speed, after 5 to 10 charging cycles.
©Tech-Blog.org
Ahh.. The mind what a wonderful trap!
ThinkGeek has been conned into buying thousands of these and wishes to sell them off velly cheep.
Donte Alistair Anderson Roberts - hi son!
Karma: Chameleon
(NT)
This sounds like a nonsense but..f fichetest.php?testid=159 where they did some tests and the results are... uff.. unbelievable..
I Found a link to a fench web http://www.freepaq.com/index.php?redirect=/bons/a
Okay, this sounds suspiciously like those holographic stickers (the MPT Smogbuster Fuel Disk) that claims to improve gas mileage (for the low, low price of 299 per sticker!).
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PT Barnum was right.
Yes, there are women on Slashdot. Deal with it.
but what's more astonishing, Roland Piquepaille didn't submit this one! Remarkable.
-b
myselfmusic
How many of these nanobullshit strips would it take, applied to the cerebra of /.'s HMFIC's to stop them from posting this kind of shit?
/.? How can we? It's an icon of the digital age... oh hey! Porn!
Time to abandon
If you read their Corporate filing with the state of Florida, under Article III Purpose it says...
"The corporation shall be authorized to engage in sanitary services, and transact any and all other lawful business withina nd without the State of Florida..."
Sanitary services eh? There going to need those skills to deal with all the bullshit they're propogating!
Evidently the BatMax product emmits electrons in some fashion, possibly a radioactive special ingrediant?:
;)
Quoted from the BatMax article:
"The wavelength of the electron released from BatMax is around 3-40 microns, and is considered to be within almost the same range with the oscillation frequency of molecules inside the battery. These molecules are able to raise their oscillation energy and electricity generation by receiving electron wavelength from BatMax. "
How you calculate the wavelength of an electron:
wavelength = planck contasnt / energy
So WTF you ask? Basically it is just a whole lot of snake oil by the manufacter, this product is no better then those sticker EMF shields (at least in my less then expert opinion
It sounds entirely possible to a lot of other nutcases like you. Guess what, they are marketing it to you!
In other times this would be known as quackery. This is what happens if you let merketeers work unguarded by sane people.
This space is intentionally staring blankly at you
I keep reading Batmax as Betamax...make it stop!
http://www.frequencycenter.com/
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These are being sold by MLM flunkies all over the place, and are known to be useless. See a good discussion of this at:
http://p2.hostingprod.com/@worldwidescam.com/qu
Wow, I really hope this wasn't a paid ad, or Slashdot has sunk to a new low.
Chris
Actually, it may be possible to extend battery life using nanotech. Obviously not in a sticker, or any exterior form, but if they (real scientists, not BatMax) were to develop either/or
A) a better dielectric material (to decrease charge leakage)
B) a nanovalve array to selectively turn on/off chemical interaction when unused.
(Neither of which would have measurable impact on charging time.) Though theoretically possible with today's technology, I'm sure a single AA would come in at least several million bux... and not last all that much longer in everyday use.
Instead, I think its wiser to stick with what nanotechnology was originally intended for: microsopic BattleBots!
-- Just another unsolicited opinion... from the Peanut Gallery.
If you buy from BatMax (na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na, BATMAX!) you are getting ripped off. I've got my own nanotechnology battery extender, and it was easy to make!
Ingredients:
-200 grit sandpaper (made with natural stone)
-aluminum foil (made of "nano-molecules" of Al)
-glue stick (the kind astronauts use in the office)
Instructions:
1. Slap all that crap together however you like.
2. Apply to battery.
3. Brag your ass off!
I'm getting 80-100 more hours out of my cellphone battery, easy. I put my homemade stickers on BOTH sides of my battery for uber performance.
Applying one sticker improves battery life by 70%, so two stickers must improve battery life by 140% !
All you do is apply the non-conductive sticker accross the battery leads. This allows the battery to keep its charge for much longer. On the down side, it prevents the user from obtaining current from the battery.
Seriously. How is something attached to the outside a battery going to affect the chemistry inside a battery? This is just as useless as those little $200 stickers you were supposed to stick to the bottom of your gas tank.
As for the stick-on antennas, they're not trying to affect something that's inside your cellphone that they can't touch. Radio waves don't see the case of your cell phone. RF != chemistry
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"Open source is good." - Steve Jobs
"Open source is evil." - Microsoft
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> What we have here is just that, a useless sticker.
But it's NOT useless!
If you see someone with said sticker on their cell battery, you know they're either a) gullible/stupid or b) Cowboy Neal!
I mod down all the "free iPod"-sig losers.
Not that this isn't total bullshit; just not for that reason.
Hmmm. Is the lawyer giving high praise to the product *their* attorney?
:)
Ok, really. I just about snorked coffee across the room reading this article and the mentioned web site this morning. I was too busy laughing to take it seriously.
Is this an early April fools' joke? I mean, c'mon. Does anybody *really* buy into this? Add this to the gas line magnets, the cell phone antenna extenders, etc. etc. This has the makings of some really riveting infomercials
It makes a good humor article. I'm not going to jump into the flamewar because this was too funny.
-dh
I think this is the same company selling WiFi Cables on ebay.
...where can I go to replicate the experience? Fark.com? Looking for suggestions...
There goes my bullshit detector
Note that the "order now" button on their web site leads to a spiel trying to recruit distributors, and doesn't have any actual facility for ordering the stickers.
Also note that on their "distributors" page, every region other than North America says "no distributors yet, hey, why don't you become one" while North America lists the company itself (which, as mentioned above, doesn't actually distribute the stickers and doesn't even appear to have a physical address).
In one episode, Dwight and Cubert buy out Planet Express.
Cubert: Leela, help me apply these flame decals I got in my cereal. They'll make the ship go faster.
Leela: What's your scientific basis for thinking that?
Cubert: I'm 12.
Dude, you're about 4 years too late. Honestly, it's amazing how little the editors and maintaners of slashdot actualy care about the site. If you've been around a while you'd see it. It's obvious that they lost intrest long ago and pretty much resent the readership. Only they can't move on to other things because of all the money, and for some reason don't want to give up control.
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Whois is "Domains by Proxy", so that's not immediately helpful.
BatMax, Inc. is a valid Florida corporation, but their mail drop is "WORLD CORPORATE SERVICES, INC., 2665 S. BAYSHORE DRIVE, SUITE 703, MIAMI FL 33133". Again, not too helpful.
The USPTO shows a trademark for BatMax: "BatMax Corporation, Suite # 3A, 9250 West Bay Harbor Drive, Bay Harbor Islands, FLORIDA 33154". That's a condo in Colony Bay Harbor Condos. It's a small residential building, and doesn't look anything like the "picture of BatMax skyscraper headquarters" on their web site. The building pictured on the web site is Espirito Santo Plaza in Miami, which is still under construction although partially occupied.
From a BatMax press release, we get a name: Alain Aisenberg, and a phone number, (305) 865-1400.
We find Alain Aisenberg talking about BatMax on an MIT mailing list.. There, he gives his cell phone number.
A public records search finds that name in Miami, and gives us enough information to run a background check.
But I'll stop there.
...Unless by some odd chance this thing is real. But my EE degree is telling me I'm pretty sure there's no such thing as a magical battery sticker. Now magic antenna stickers, that's a different matter...
Gen-you-wine nanotech, huh? Gooooo--lly! Hot-Dog!
this is clearly a fraud!
But not as intended- I'm not stupid enough to buy the sticker, but this story just reminded me that I needed to plug in my cell phone while at work today, thus extending my battery life....
SJW: a person who perceives an injustice, and while correcting it, commits a greater injustice.
Lame.
SAILING MISHAP
Exactly like.
He might have been suckered in while checking it on on !!! PHYSORG.COM !!! motto: The latest physics and technology news.
(Their forum sounds a lot like this one - not real happy with scam stories)
Fellows--there's no place to actually purchase the things off of the main page. For all anyone knows this is just a joke rather than fraud.
As we outlined during the pitch, we pride ourselves both on our strong relationships with both clients and media. Our intimate knowledge of the lives of tech journalists, and of senior executives throughout the mobile industry, has been invaluable in achieving our unsurpassed record. We have not lost a client yet, except to natural causes.
The recent campaign is running extremely successfully, with unprecedented traffic to the website. We will be invoicing you for this shortly.
In the meantime, our product specialist has suggested we extend your product range to children's toys. This would legitimise our inclusion of certain photographic assets in the next brochure, and help capture some of the demographic outliers. I realise product development is not our core competence, but, with due respect, the most it would require is a slightly larger print run.
Your assistant has recently expressed some concern to me that audiences have reacted negatively on some sites. I apologise for this. We take this extremely seriously, and will be working to apply corrective action very shortly. Of course, there will always be some editors we do not have on file, but our agents are in the field as I write.
You see, it absorbs all the dumb thoughts that go around in your brain, preventing the crystallization of the pituitary gland, and raising your resulting IQ to 248!
sheesh, they have pretty pictures so they obviously spent well on webdesign and marketing and so forth to look legitimate, but a magical sticker that just goes on the outside of batteries to make them work better doesn't pass the 'thinking-about-it-for-more-than-2-seconds' test.
Gotta like their FAQ: "Why don't the handset and battery manufacturers include BatMax's technology in their products ? Answer: Because, at the moment, the integration process and material costs can adversely affect the end user price, but discussions with cellphone and computer manufacturers are actually in process. Actually, several manufacturers and cellular carriers are planning to distribute BatMax as a branded accessory." --- of course the real reason is that battery manufactuers realize this is complete garbage...
... of course, if you stick it to your genitals, it solves all your recharge problems there too... ;-)
I actually wish I'd RTFA first...
...Slashdot just became a humor site.
In other news, the random fortune chosen on the page is extremely pertinent:
You are not a fool just because you have done something foolish -- only if the folly of it escapes you.
I'm surprised to see these presented as two distinct categories.
Now not only am I saving hundreds of dollars on gas, but I never have to charge my cellphone either. Now I'm just waiting on a case badge that'll up my cpu 300mhz.
Well, at least they're cheaper than these stickers.
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- - You can't take something off the Internet! That's like trying to take pee out of a swimming pool.
...is this thing compatible with my pre-existing .NET-based infrastructure? I'm trying to standardize my technology expenditures around homogenous technological architecture so that I might realize a better ROI for my company and our partners.
Thanks, in advance.
This sounds suspiciously like the sort of logic that says putting stickers on your Civic will make it go faster.
The REAL jabber has the user id: 13196
What you do today will cost you a day of your life
Huff.. I was deriving the velocity of the electron from E=hf... I got as far as v=((lambda)*m*c^2)/h when I read your suggestion of google. Oh well :P
just put the numbers in, got a v >> c. So I guess I was barking up the wrong tree ;-P
I was like, "Betamax"? That's 1980s technology!
Of course it turns out this is technology that's been with us since before we learned to speak: deception.
You just shut your pie holes, the lot of you! I happen to know it can work 'cause I purchased a similar product from my pal Rev. Snakeoyle. I'ts a small patch made from the very same carbon-nanofibre-ceramic-foil stuff and I sew it to the inside of my boxers. It has given me increased manlyhood and confidence just like that Bob guy on the TV comercials. The only side effect seemd to be muh reduced spelling capabilities but all in all it's all good ;-)
Can't you folks do any better than this?
Get off my virtual lawn, you damned virtual kids!
http://www.batmax.com/products-laptop.php They have one for a laptop... but according to its features list, it only increases my talk time by 30%... i don't use my laptop for talking... what about my gaming time damnit!
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I saw a news report on a similar product about a month or so ago in Japan. Apparently a company was selling a "sticker that could extend the life of your cell phone battery". It was an investigative report in which they got a scientist who specializes in batteries to test it. Basically the results showed that there was NO DIFFERENCE whether you applied the sticker or not. The "president" of the company, after being confronted with this evidence, admitted that "well, people think it works so what's wrong with that?".
I'm starting a petition to send to the editors to stop posting BS stories like this one. Please feel free to add a comment/your name to this journal if you concur.
http://slashdot.org/~ICECommander/journal/96852
/. your source for "Scams that matter"
All your Sybase are belong to us.
I started a petition to get rid of stories like this, add a comment to my journal.
All your Sybase are belong to us.
Seriously, between crap like this and dupes is there any wonder why hardly anyone who reads Slashdot actually subscribers?
I read Slashdot every day. If there was ever any website I should pay for just to read it's probably this one. But I just can't. Other than bandwidth the group that actually runs Slashdot contributes so little to it it's almost laughable.
The code is from the dark ages (HTML 3.2? C'mon!), the search sucks, they willfully blast small websites out of existence (if only temporarily). Unless they've changed the terms they use the idiotic model of selling page views instead of monthly/yearly deals for subscriptions. Most of all, they never listen to any of the numerous suggestions that have been made to improve the site.
I can only wonder how much money Slashdot has lost since they started selling subscriptions because of this total disregard for the people that actually read and contribute to the site. If any editors actaully read this post (doubtful, Jaime is about the only one who actually reads anything here) wake up and take a look around. Decent management should have fired the lot of you a long time ago for keeping Slashdot from ever rising above the level of mediocrity.
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But I'll stop there.
Great Gauss, why? If astroturfers got horribly burned by some *cough* anonymous people with l33ter skills than mine, perhaps they'd stop trying to peddle their crap to us. It's like spam---one in ten thousand Slashdot readers will buy this crap, but that makes it well worth Alain Aisenberg's time.
The only way to make it stop is to make it not worth Aisenberg's time.
If the editors won't do something about it, perhaps some of the readers should.
--grendel drago
Laws do not persuade just because they threaten. --Seneca
Laws do not persuade just because they threaten. --Seneca
As a Quaker, I must object to this denigration.
You all think Slashdot is full o crap for posting the article on this blatant scam product.
... and by people smart enough not to actually buy the useless product.
You all missed the fact that by posting the article, the bastards are being bombarded and with any luck may be slashdotted right off the net for at least a little while
Well Done Cowboy!
I now return you to your regular herd-like mentality.
George Bush + Linux = "I will not let information get in the way of the fight against Windows"
Junk science crops up in many venues these days. I've even seen examples show up in my kid's high-school homework. As time passes, the purveyors get better and better at spouting realistic sounding garbage that takes ever more educated scientists or engineers to refute and explain to us why certain propositions are junk. Some of these folks read slashdot.
I propose slashdot start a new category for topics like this. Slashdot readers can choose to read and learn or not, as they choose. Hopefully, those of us that choose to read we be educated by the responses. I learned quite a bit just from reading the responses on this post, including some ways I've never thought of before to check out questionable companies and their principals.
The story has certainly made the rounds on the internet this week. PhysOrg.com, a web site devoted to physics and technology review was even taken in and published a long article about it. Certainly their editor must have some formal science education?
While CowboyNeal may have been a little too naive in posting this story, reading it certainly entertained and educated me. These are the primary reasons I read Slashdot. Thanks....
How much did you get paid to post this?
DemonSeed Elite is coming after you.
See you in Hell, you sorry sack of shit.
KK/cDc
Here's the real scoop on the whole IonXR technology.
You will notice that there is no patent claim made on the revolutionary IonXR technology.
Thats because they are still working on the tedious patent paper work but needed money to continue funding further research. So they've chosen to release the product with a hocus-pocus explanation of "IonXR technology".
The real technology behind this product is easily determined through analysis of the electromagnetic field generated around the sticker while the phone is drawing current to/from the battery.
The IonXR lie is, like all good lies, based partly in fact. The actual technology does indeed work through manipulation of the inherent electromagnetic field produced by any battery as current is drawn to/from the battery.
But as others have pointed out, manipulation of this inherent electromagnetic field to produce changes in the crystalline structures that form in the separator is obviously rubbish to anyone that understands the energy levels involved in such manipulations of a crystallization process!
The sticker is actually far closer in actual operational theory to the cell phone antenna stickers that boost cellular reception. Again the IonXR claims draw upon truth, but unlike the antenna stickers, the BatMax technology utilizes the latest nanotechnology theories to exploit naturally occurring nano-sized particles (which are cleverly employed to keep costs for this incredible product low enough for your average cell phone user in the developed world to be able to purchase it) to subtly influence the electromagnetic environment inside the battery as it is charged or discharged.
Simply put these subtle influences cause the battery to produce an electromagnetic field with the correct harmonic nuances to tap into zero point energy. By tapping into zero point energy the sticker extends the apparent capacity of the battery and reduces the time required to charge it as well! Very clever that last part I think!
How do I know all this?
They were unable to stably produce the needed electromagnetic field with their prototype stickers. I was at a local Tully's drinking a steamed rice milk with double shot vanilla when I first encountered the primary designers.
They had been (and are still continuing their research into) developing the stickers to extend the range of their Segways. When the stickers worked they would be able to get from their offices to the Tully's and back again (a truly astounding accomplishment considered the reduced range of a Segway after its battery pack begins the natural aging process) but when the stickers didn't work, as they hadn't that day, they needed to recharge at the Tully's before returning to their office.
As they waited for their Segways to recharge they discussed what might have changed to prevent their stickers from working this time. This allowed me to analyze the basic operational nature of their stickers along with them and realize where their stickers were most likely failing them.
I introduced myself, presented my business card and proposed a "back of the napkin deal" to help them out. At first they were very nervous and distraught over their carelessness at discussing the fundamental operational details where a fellow Tully's patron could overhear them. They obviously wanted to hurry off but alas their Segways were still not ready.
The problem was so obvious, but they were unable to see it. In order to affect the subtle magnetic manipulations required to achieve the harmonic needed to tap into zero point energy you must have a very stable physical structure to properly align the nano-sized particles. When I first met them they were using a simple cellulose and aluminum foil structure to support the nano-sized particles in the proper structure.
I pointed out to them that the electromagnetic field from the battery wasn't just being manipulated by the sticker, but was in itself affecting the sticker itself! Yes, the electromagnetic fi
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Notice the lack of any real pictures of the thing, and the download links for the "high-res" images are conveniently missing from their list of downloadable promotional stuff.
Seems like a total vaporware hoax, much like the "Famous" TabbyTote(TM).
If they put a big sticker on every powerplant generator
below is a post to the forums on physorg where the company not only fooled slashdot here, but them too.. though no one that enjoys physorg was tricked... enjoy the repost here...
Note that in the article and their website they manage to hit every hot marketing term that confuses people.. in this and the site you will find
oxidation, oxidizers, rejuvination, nano, natural, oscillating energies, envoronmentally friendly, protection of the global environment, reduce global chemical pollution, help prevent global warming, promote cleaner air, convenience, exclusively developed, nanoceramic, laboratory research, natural stone, silicon, protective film, ions, oscillation energy, directly affect, electro-magnetic, XXX Times a value, ambient air ionization, Extends, Reduces, Prolongs, eliminates, protects, amazin performances (why plural?), simply, exclusive, real tech sounding name IonXR.
they also have no distributors, nothing whatsoever... but then there is only one testimonial from an attorney.. hmmmm... and that letter uses these marketing nonsense words... virtual workplace, veritable lifeline, office model, critical, watchin in horror (i like this one personally cause i want to watch people all around me reacting in horror to all kinds of nonsense.. as well as watching all those lone people walking up and down the beach as stated in personals), critcal phone call. without cumbersm cables and attachements (implying the only alternative are jumper cables), non-intrusive, fashion, critcal tool, enhancing....
i replied with some points (its all too big so here is a selection)
as stated in the post that it doesn't matter whether you put it on the phone or the battery... (shows they aint too smart.. because if you have multiple batteries and you put it on the phone then you would only need one, but if you HAD to put it on the battery, they would have more sales!)
Extends battery life by 30% up to 200% / suddenly a battery has MORE energy because of a sticker on the case or near it
Accelerates charging time up to 40% / suddenly the battery can take in energy faster
Eliminates the battery memory effect / by what mechanism - and I don't care if its just a supposition - can a sticker change the chemical and physical property inherent in certain types of battery without every being able to physically touch the materials.
protects the battery from 'electrical variations' of cigarette lighter adaptors by regulating and filtering the current / how can a sticker that is not an active electronic device and that is not connected to any of the wiring perform current regulation? This one would revolutionize ALL of electronics!!!!
They claim a nano ceramic material is extracted from a natural stone...
Wow... they were able to claim two hot totally unrelated marketing terms in the first half of once sentence (Nano and 'natural', we all 'know' that natural nano would be better than man made nano, right?)
layered between 2 protective silicon foils or on 1 or 2 sides of a conductive sheet.
Silicon is not a conductor unless doped with material... while a conductive sheet is conductive.. so which is it.. or rather does it not make a difference? Of course not because it doesn't work.. it doesn't matter whether or not the layers conduct or not!!!! So it doesn't matter that they contradict themselves in explaining how it works.
An adhesive and protective film are added to the foil (depending on the version) to attach BatMax to the battery.
Not only do they add value by not making you buy glue but the film is protective... if you look at - http://www.batmax.com/technology-features.php / they show that the protective layer actually protects the silk print wich protects the upper layer, which THEN protects the amazing natural nano material
Absorb the electromagnetic waves generated from the battery.
Batteries do not generate electromagnetic waves. if they did the
This is the funniest damn thing I've seen in a VERY long time!! I've been laughing for a solid 20 minutes now..
It would seem, from the volume of "you're a bunch of fucking phonies" posts, that if this was an attempt by an anonymous BatMax employee to drum up some business, it has completely backfired. The Collective Slashdot Smackdown has ensued.
On the other hand, it is really revealing that so many people picked this up for the bullshit it is right away. It makes you wonder -- if advertising was held to a slightly higher standard than other "speech," how much harder would it be for snake-oil salesmen to get to their marks?