I dare you to gather together a few thousand piraters and start a class action lawsuit demanding your 'right' to get updates!
Please do! Because in most of the world the judge will just laugh at you and remind you that you are the criminal and don't deserve a patch to something you didnt pay for.
However in the US, where no one is willing to take responsibility for their own actions or even slightly see how their own actions lead to their own problems.... mayyyyybe you'll luck out and get a stupid judge.
But probably not.
I'll be waiting to hear how you do.
What would be really cool, would be for the judge to decide that to fix any risk from all the unprotected pirated copies, that MS should infact destroy the operating systems of any pirate machine that tries to updage.... you know, kinda like the problems some SP1 updaters had at first.
ya sure, today i could blow a ton of money (IF I HAD SOME), on a top of the line computer, and do the same work in a much shorter time...
Open your Eyes you bloody fool! The computer I started with on Prime95 SEVEN years ago was a respectable machine at the time!
Shall we shut off any kind of mass number crunching research right now because next year there will be a faster computer?
How bout after that year has gone by... oops i guess we should wait another year when an even faster computer is available.... and keep putting it off FOREVER because the future will always be better.
You don't understand the project in the least.
Prime95 runs in the background, stepping out of the way whenever you need your CPU for a regular task. For 90% of the time you are 'using' your computer, you are actually wasting cpu cycles that if not for Prime or other similar programs would be consumed by the System Idle process.
Why wouldn't you put that processor time to good use? Look at your task manager, notice that the System Idle process uses 99% of your cpu time most of the time!
You can deride the project as mere 'stamp collecting' all you want, You're the blind one here. If it wasn't for all your so called 'stamp collectors' gathering data in EVERY field of science for the last couple hundred years, your life would be completely different today.
Why not be part of the advancement, instead of just a leech?
Started with a p120 laptop, at times had a dozen computers teamed up.
In that time.. ive found no primes but the work ive done would have taken 307 years for a p90 computer to match... a p90 being the 'zero-point' computer when the project started.
windows program, $600 roughly. Very good at making surfaces from DEM or other grid type data sources.
You can overlay a raster just fine.
You can automate the process with a fairly simple vba script system, that you also can access through ASP to make nifty websites.... oh, and use Jump.. www.vividsolutions.com/jump/ as your GIS viewer. its easy to use unlike GRASS, comes with a nice user interface unlike GRASS, and is free.
Why are so many of you happy? You should all be flinging huge piles of crap at ESRI despite their attempt to modernize and diversify!
After all, in the world of GIS, they are MICROSOFT. (cue evil music)
Get back in character! ESRI is the devil! start flinging insults no matter how rediculous so you can feel like you are part of the group!.... oh, then while you are at it, go opensource...
--use MapServer with PostGIS spatial database and save $50,000 over ArcIMS with ArcSDE/Oracle (and have it function 100x better than ArcIMS)
--use Jump for day to day GIS needs http://www.vividsolutions.com/jump/
-- go to: http://opensourcegis.org/ for all the rest of your GIS needs (100's of open source programs there)
I dont understand why any common GIS user would bother with programming large scripts in ArcGIS. I have watched ArcGIS plod along for HOURS using no more than 1% of the CPU... where ArcView takes minutes, using 100% of the CPU. All so they can tell you to buy ArcInfo for $25,000 saying it gives you the lost speed back.
I struggled through many courses in ArcGIS, and ArcObjects. It became painfully obvious that even if you can follow the set of 28 ANSI E size pages that make up the ArcObjects object model, you will in the end be stuck with a brutal little program that will crash often, run slow, and may not transfer properly to other machines.
My professor, who is earning her Masters degree specializing on trying to teach ArcObjects through Online classes (shiver)... could offer no explanation as to why scripts that would get us full marks could be so horribly unreliable. I suspect she had to keep quiet because of the huge licensing deals ESRI gave BCIT.
Anywho, ESRI is running scared from the open source world. they are actively attacking the MapServer community because it is such a threat to their product, fighting to stop the government of Canada from using MapServer as widely as they do now. An ESRI salesmen went as far as outright lying to me a few months ago trying to tell me that a well known MapServer proponent here in Vancouver had given up on it, switching to ArcIMS... not knowing that I knew the guy, and knew he's on the cutting edge, far from giving up on anything.
ArcGIS 9 with Python... jump up and down and cheer... if you are a bloody fool. Many MapServer users have given up on Python. You can do far more, far more easily with the CGI version of MapServer, a PostGIS spatial database on a crappy spare parts linux server... and a little ASP here and there to help things along.
The most hilarious thing about this thread is that so many fools think its more likely someone has been hacking the webserver and editing the photos perfectly EVERY SINGLE HOUR... than it is for someone to have wandered up on a mountain and put the toy in place.... on a mountain that the locals have said is not remote at all.... no more than a fun weekend day trip and hike to an interesting place.
Of course I suppose 'remote' means something different to the geeks here that live on their computers, only getting excersise in the time it takes to go to the bathroom, or call for a pizza to be delivered. Ya know, most people do venture from their homes regularly, some even enjoy a moderate workout!
The far simpler explanation is that someone wandered up and placed it.
The 11 year solar cycle peaked a couple years ago. Sunspot activity peaks with the cycle.
The activity can cause huge electromagnetic disturbances that can very much be picked up by phone lines, cable lines etc, any antenna like structure.
Go ask your local geo-physicist about the hastles he/she had trying to perform exploration surveys on mining properties through the period of the peak. Like the phone lines, their long cables laid out in the bush also act like antennae, picking up the solar activity and wrecking any data you are trying to collect.
Been there. Done that... and had to throw out the data... and complain to my friends about it on staticy phone lines from the same effect.
fool, snow on the phone lines can very much affect the transfer speeds, it makes all kinds of noise in the lines... whether its the tension on the line or something else I don't know.
But I lived for a few years in a town that got 20+ feet of snow each winter, and the effect was there.
you can get rid of the RHN alerts, you dont have to have them or even install anything from them...
ARE YOU PEOPLE STUPID!?!
You don't ever have to deal with windows updates either... my point was that you Linux users claim windows needs patches constantly while Linux never does while in reality whether you have the alerts turned on or not, there are half a dozen updates for you every day!
Funny, i can get to and use the command prompt just fine in windows XP as I have in all the previous versions... I don't have to very often because non-open source coders seem to be willing to make simple user interfaces while linux coders couldn't be bothered to make anything user friendly.
The point is that I do expect bugs, glitches, and patches... i was showing the irony of the person I was replying too... who was trying to say that windows needs updates constantly, as if Linux doesnt.... And yes, i can generalize to Linux instead of just fedora... how many 'new' kernals have been released ohh this week?
That story of yours is all blown to hell by the last few versions of redhat ive used... fedora core1 at the moment.... with that ever flashing exclamation mark at the bottom of the screen, demanding that you download and install half a dozen PATCHES EVERY DAY... a veritible SHIT LOAD OF PATCHES and packages WE NEITHER USE NOR EVEN WANT ON THE BLOODY SYSTEM.
You dont even realize you are a part of the problem do you?... trying to hide how much the common linux user interfaces strive to appear as user friendly and dumbed down as you would claim windows is... just without the functionality.
If the author of the article in question had spent a fraction of the time he spent learning Linux on learning how to properly use Windows, he would not have had the problems he had.
Funny thing about Linux users...
They admit that to use Linux, you need to learn some real skills... that any damn fool off the street will have to work at it a bit to really benefit from Linux... yet they expect MS to make windows so that the same damn fool can use it with absolutely no problems of any kind with out any work at all to learn how to use it properly.
I could go on for hours about the problems I've had trying to make various open source GIS softwares run in Linux... about all the tiny simple half assed clues that those programmers could have included with their work to save me days of banging my head on the screen.
I bet I could re-write the author's article switching out MS/windows for PostGIS/GEOS/GRASS/TclTK/GDAL... and half the people here would blow me off as just Linux inexperienced while those same people praise the great work of the master windows god author to point out the criminal acts of MS/windows.
Grow up! Linux is just as far from perfect as Windows is, just not enough people use it for it to be a worthy target of real exploits. Your great day of Linux will come, and you will be learned real good when it comes.
Actually, it was Dubya that said that the hydrogen would be generated by burning oil and coal.
Anywho, I'm glad to see that the chinese peasants will have clean air to breath on their electric bikes while they ride to work... creating unbelievable toxic disasters salvaging metals from our thrown out computer parts.
It is proper english to use 'an' before a word starting with H such as history, harmonica, hypothesis.
Of course you wouldnt expect an american (an easy assumption) to use the Queen's english properly would you? After all, they've been spelling colour, flavour, favourite, neighbourhood and other similar words wrong for a century or so.
It has nothing to do with laziness over pronouncing the 'H', and everything to do with the poster's laziness to use proper english.
I come from a well respected GIS program, from BCIT in Vancouver Canada.
They changed form teaching C++ to Visual Basic.NET the year I went through the program.
I'm very glad they did, VB.NET is far more powerful than its predesessor and at the least will give you a strong background for ASP and JavaScript.... and is far easier to learn that C++.
But don't sit on one technology. The most important thing is to take the best of each.
There are fools on this board that would have you believe VB.NET is useless. They are the same people that spend all their time bashing Microsoft instead of getting anything done. You can do anything with.NET if you take the time to learn it.
I don't give a rat's ass about ArcGIS9.0. ArcGIS has gone through a few scripting languages, but they have invested so much in ArcObjects (a VBA system - VBA is the customizing code used by most apps you will encounter) that they aren't going to abandon it now. If they choose to use Python, it won't mean dropping VBA.
Also, for most common tasks, ArcMap literally uses 1% of your CPU, taking hours!... while ArcView chews through the same data in a fraction of the time.
ESRI is running scared, starting to openly attack the MapServer community, no longer able to hide that ArcIMS is crap, and that they have made ArcMap run so slow to force you to buy a full ArcInfo license.
I personally spoke to an ESRI representative here that attacked MapServer every way he could think of, finally quoting the name of a strong MapServer supporter claiming that supporter has switched to ArcIMS... the fool didnt know that I know that supporter. Those kind of lies only prove they are running scared.
But maybe I'm just bitter because of the 8 or 10 ESRI courses I had to take in my program.
MapServer's homepage can be found easily on the internet. There is a lot of good documentation at the homepage and a large and active mailing archive that has helped me many times.
PHP used to be an important language for implementing MapServer... that day is over.
With the rise of PostGIS, you have full free access to a powerful enterprise level spatial database system. You don't need PHP anymore.
Most people seem to use the Linux flavours of MapServer. I have had great success with the Windows CGI version. With a little ASP to help thing here and there, you are only limited by your imagination.
MapServer with PostGIS has become so versatile and easy to use, that Esri's ArcIMS and ArcSDE are as good as dead. Why spend $50,000+ to setup the Esri crap when you have all this free stuff available that works far more reliably and can handle multi-gigabyte datasources faster than ArcIMS can handle a 10mb file?
Speaking as a GIS tech/programmer, and geologist... holding back geospatial data from free public use will hurt the enonomy far more than any of those imagined threats. If a terrorist really wants to know where a target is, he can just wander on past with a GPS.
If the US government really cared, they wouldn't have turned of the 'selective availability' distortion that used to reduce the accuracy of common GPS units from a nice 10m accuracy down to an annoying 100m.
I think history has proven that at least so far terrorists attacking the US have preferred large symbolic targets, the kind that you can't hide, where openly available geospatial data is irrelevant.
And consider that having as much data available as possible to the public enables all kinds of value added / data mining uses to crop up that the data owners might never think of themselves. There are many business models out there working right now, feeding families.
Open free exchange and full interoperability if geospatial data is the future. It is happening now through the Open GIS Consortium, GML, and through free open source programs such as Grass, and MapServer. Good things happen when the right people have easy access to your spatial data.
Do your part! set up a MapServer WMS server today, make your spatial data available to the world yet still maintain control (the server passes out raster map layers that become part of a user's raster map, no one gets your valuable vectors)
sasser can't attack computers behind a typical firewall. There's a couple dozen computers where i work that are not updated, have not been in months that were not affected.
... compared to a fresh install of XP, without a firewall a home computer of mine became infected within 10 minutes of being online attempting to install the security patches.
As usual, the story is meant to scare the ignorant. quick deployment to protect against sasser is irrelevant so long as mobile computers are looked after first and a firewall is present.
I cant wait until the 'year of the linux desktop' finally starts, or did that pass already? So hard to tell when that headline has been used every couple months for the last 5 years.
If it ever does happen, I will be grinning ear to ear... at all the linux users being attacked though linux's many security holes that are simply overlooked today due to the linux community being too small to care about.
This is not a troll, but im sure those most affected by the problem will miss the point... anywho...
Just be like Bush
Ignore any trade agreements / laws.
Put a huge tariff on any work done overseas for US companies regardless of how reasonable or fair it is for the work to be done in the manner it is in those other countries. (you are afterall the only important people anywhere, screw all others, they don't deserve what you can have)
Let your own companies die a slow painful death, killing your economy because all other companies around the world are able to compete better.
The programmers in India live a very good life there because the cost of living is much lower than it is here. I wonder how much of the high cost here is due to the ignorant protectionism that has nearly destroyed the US agriculture, sugar, lumber and other industries?
Don't like that someone else can live a good life doing what you do for less? Go live the good life in India instead of twiddling your thumbs here.
Why shouldn't programming / IT work be outsourced? manufacturing of everything you use every day has been outsourced (manufactured elsewhere) 30 or more years! Just imagine what you would have to pay for your favourite toys if you had to pay for them to be made in the US!... you simply wouldnt have those toys.
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I dare you to gather together a few thousand piraters and start a class action lawsuit demanding your 'right' to get updates!
.... mayyyyybe you'll luck out and get a stupid judge.
... you know, kinda like the problems some SP1 updaters had at first.
Please do! Because in most of the world the judge will just laugh at you and remind you that you are the criminal and don't deserve a patch to something you didnt pay for.
However in the US, where no one is willing to take responsibility for their own actions or even slightly see how their own actions lead to their own problems
But probably not.
I'll be waiting to hear how you do.
What would be really cool, would be for the judge to decide that to fix any risk from all the unprotected pirated copies, that MS should infact destroy the operating systems of any pirate machine that tries to updage.
If its all pirated MS sees little benefit either. There's no point having market dominance if it just costs you money.
Stop thinking like Open Source. MS is a company and needs to make money from their products.
Get a clue
They are not loyal customers if they pirated the software.
Hi meet my friend Thud, the idiot.
...
... oops i guess we should wait another year when an even faster computer is available. ... and keep putting it off FOREVER because the future will always be better.
ya sure, today i could blow a ton of money (IF I HAD SOME), on a top of the line computer, and do the same work in a much shorter time
Open your Eyes you bloody fool! The computer I started with on Prime95 SEVEN years ago was a respectable machine at the time!
Shall we shut off any kind of mass number crunching research right now because next year there will be a faster computer?
How bout after that year has gone by
You don't understand the project in the least.
Prime95 runs in the background, stepping out of the way whenever you need your CPU for a regular task. For 90% of the time you are 'using' your computer, you are actually wasting cpu cycles that if not for Prime or other similar programs would be consumed by the System Idle process.
Why wouldn't you put that processor time to good use? Look at your task manager, notice that the System Idle process uses 99% of your cpu time most of the time!
You can deride the project as mere 'stamp collecting' all you want, You're the blind one here. If it wasn't for all your so called 'stamp collectors' gathering data in EVERY field of science for the last couple hundred years, your life would be completely different today.
Why not be part of the advancement, instead of just a leech?
Been running prime 95 for 6 years now.
.. ive found no primes but the work ive done would have taken 307 years for a p90 computer to match... a p90 being the 'zero-point' computer when the project started.
Started with a p120 laptop, at times had a dozen computers teamed up.
In that time
Check out Surfer, www.goldensoftware.com
... oh, and use Jump .. www.vividsolutions.com/jump/ as your GIS viewer. its easy to use unlike GRASS, comes with a nice user interface unlike GRASS, and is free.
windows program, $600 roughly. Very good at making surfaces from DEM or other grid type data sources.
You can overlay a raster just fine.
You can automate the process with a fairly simple vba script system, that you also can access through ASP to make nifty websites.
Why are so many of you happy? You should all be flinging huge piles of crap at ESRI despite their attempt to modernize and diversify!
.... oh, then while you are at it, go opensource ...
... where ArcView takes minutes, using 100% of the CPU. All so they can tell you to buy ArcInfo for $25,000 saying it gives you the lost speed back.
... could offer no explanation as to why scripts that would get us full marks could be so horribly unreliable. I suspect she had to keep quiet because of the huge licensing deals ESRI gave BCIT.
... not knowing that I knew the guy, and knew he's on the cutting edge, far from giving up on anything.
... jump up and down and cheer ... if you are a bloody fool. Many MapServer users have given up on Python. You can do far more, far more easily with the CGI version of MapServer, a PostGIS spatial database on a crappy spare parts linux server ... and a little ASP here and there to help things along.
After all, in the world of GIS, they are MICROSOFT. (cue evil music)
Get back in character! ESRI is the devil! start flinging insults no matter how rediculous so you can feel like you are part of the group!
--use MapServer with PostGIS spatial database and save $50,000 over ArcIMS with ArcSDE/Oracle (and have it function 100x better than ArcIMS)
--use Jump for day to day GIS needs http://www.vividsolutions.com/jump/
-- go to: http://opensourcegis.org/ for all the rest of your GIS needs (100's of open source programs there)
I dont understand why any common GIS user would bother with programming large scripts in ArcGIS. I have watched ArcGIS plod along for HOURS using no more than 1% of the CPU
I struggled through many courses in ArcGIS, and ArcObjects. It became painfully obvious that even if you can follow the set of 28 ANSI E size pages that make up the ArcObjects object model, you will in the end be stuck with a brutal little program that will crash often, run slow, and may not transfer properly to other machines.
My professor, who is earning her Masters degree specializing on trying to teach ArcObjects through Online classes (shiver)
Anywho, ESRI is running scared from the open source world. they are actively attacking the MapServer community because it is such a threat to their product, fighting to stop the government of Canada from using MapServer as widely as they do now. An ESRI salesmen went as far as outright lying to me a few months ago trying to tell me that a well known MapServer proponent here in Vancouver had given up on it, switching to ArcIMS
ArcGIS 9 with Python
The most hilarious thing about this thread is that so many fools think its more likely someone has been hacking the webserver and editing the photos perfectly EVERY SINGLE HOUR ... than it is for someone to have wandered up on a mountain and put the toy in place. ... on a mountain that the locals have said is not remote at all. ... no more than a fun weekend day trip and hike to an interesting place.
Of course I suppose 'remote' means something different to the geeks here that live on their computers, only getting excersise in the time it takes to go to the bathroom, or call for a pizza to be delivered. Ya know, most people do venture from their homes regularly, some even enjoy a moderate workout!
The far simpler explanation is that someone wandered up and placed it.
Sigh. another fool
the toy will outlast the camera. Easily. Cameral = sensitive. Toy = NOT.
yet another fool who reads the headlines, but doesnt follow the links.
The plastic dino is in every hourly shot with the lighting perfect.
Viso works fine for me, always has, also with Win2k SP4, no issues at all from install.
... your setup and visio were incompatible.
Visio and windows are not incompatible
Damn, so many fools around.
... and had to throw out the data. .. and complain to my friends about it on staticy phone lines from the same effect.
The 11 year solar cycle peaked a couple years ago. Sunspot activity peaks with the cycle.
The activity can cause huge electromagnetic disturbances that can very much be picked up by phone lines, cable lines etc, any antenna like structure.
Go ask your local geo-physicist about the hastles he/she had trying to perform exploration surveys on mining properties through the period of the peak. Like the phone lines, their long cables laid out in the bush also act like antennae, picking up the solar activity and wrecking any data you are trying to collect.
Been there. Done that
fool, snow on the phone lines can very much affect the transfer speeds, it makes all kinds of noise in the lines ... whether its the tension on the line or something else I don't know.
But I lived for a few years in a town that got 20+ feet of snow each winter, and the effect was there.
you can get rid of the RHN alerts, you dont have to have them or even install anything from them ...
... my point was that you Linux users claim windows needs patches constantly while Linux never does while in reality whether you have the alerts turned on or not, there are half a dozen updates for you every day!
... I don't have to very often because non-open source coders seem to be willing to make simple user interfaces while linux coders couldn't be bothered to make anything user friendly.
ARE YOU PEOPLE STUPID!?!
You don't ever have to deal with windows updates either
Funny, i can get to and use the command prompt just fine in windows XP as I have in all the previous versions
The point is that I do expect bugs, glitches, and patches ... i was showing the irony of the person I was replying too ... who was trying to say that windows needs updates constantly, as if Linux doesnt. ... And yes, i can generalize to Linux instead of just fedora ... how many 'new' kernals have been released ohh this week?
That story of yours is all blown to hell by the last few versions of redhat ive used ... fedora core1 at the moment. ... with that ever flashing exclamation mark at the bottom of the screen, demanding that you download and install half a dozen PATCHES EVERY DAY ... a veritible SHIT LOAD OF PATCHES and packages WE NEITHER USE NOR EVEN WANT ON THE BLOODY SYSTEM.
... trying to hide how much the common linux user interfaces strive to appear as user friendly and dumbed down as you would claim windows is ... just without the functionality.
You dont even realize you are a part of the problem do you?
If the author of the article in question had spent a fraction of the time he spent learning Linux on learning how to properly use Windows, he would not have had the problems he had.
...
... that any damn fool off the street will have to work at it a bit to really benefit from Linux ... yet they expect MS to make windows so that the same damn fool can use it with absolutely no problems of any kind with out any work at all to learn how to use it properly.
... about all the tiny simple half assed clues that those programmers could have included with their work to save me days of banging my head on the screen.
... and half the people here would blow me off as just Linux inexperienced while those same people praise the great work of the master windows god author to point out the criminal acts of MS/windows.
Funny thing about Linux users
They admit that to use Linux, you need to learn some real skills
I could go on for hours about the problems I've had trying to make various open source GIS softwares run in Linux
I bet I could re-write the author's article switching out MS/windows for PostGIS/GEOS/GRASS/TclTK/GDAL
Grow up! Linux is just as far from perfect as Windows is, just not enough people use it for it to be a worthy target of real exploits. Your great day of Linux will come, and you will be learned real good when it comes.
Actually, it was Dubya that said that the hydrogen would be generated by burning oil and coal.
... creating unbelievable toxic disasters salvaging metals from our thrown out computer parts.
Anywho, I'm glad to see that the chinese peasants will have clean air to breath on their electric bikes while they ride to work
Funny, people here understand that the electric bikes in china are not really a green technology ... the electricity has to come from somewhere ...
but so few understand that the same problems exist, and may be even worse for the Hydrogen Economy.
It is proper english to use 'an' before a word starting with H such as history, harmonica, hypothesis.
Of course you wouldnt expect an american (an easy assumption) to use the Queen's english properly would you? After all, they've been spelling colour, flavour, favourite, neighbourhood and other similar words wrong for a century or so.
It has nothing to do with laziness over pronouncing the 'H', and everything to do with the poster's laziness to use proper english.
I come from a well respected GIS program, from BCIT in Vancouver Canada.
... and is far easier to learn that C++.
.NET if you take the time to learn it.
... while ArcView chews through the same data in a fraction of the time.
... the fool didnt know that I know that supporter. Those kind of lies only prove they are running scared.
... that day is over.
They changed form teaching C++ to Visual Basic.NET the year I went through the program.
I'm very glad they did, VB.NET is far more powerful than its predesessor and at the least will give you a strong background for ASP and JavaScript.
But don't sit on one technology. The most important thing is to take the best of each.
There are fools on this board that would have you believe VB.NET is useless. They are the same people that spend all their time bashing Microsoft instead of getting anything done. You can do anything with
I don't give a rat's ass about ArcGIS9.0. ArcGIS has gone through a few scripting languages, but they have invested so much in ArcObjects (a VBA system - VBA is the customizing code used by most apps you will encounter) that they aren't going to abandon it now. If they choose to use Python, it won't mean dropping VBA.
Also, for most common tasks, ArcMap literally uses 1% of your CPU, taking hours!
ESRI is running scared, starting to openly attack the MapServer community, no longer able to hide that ArcIMS is crap, and that they have made ArcMap run so slow to force you to buy a full ArcInfo license.
I personally spoke to an ESRI representative here that attacked MapServer every way he could think of, finally quoting the name of a strong MapServer supporter claiming that supporter has switched to ArcIMS
But maybe I'm just bitter because of the 8 or 10 ESRI courses I had to take in my program.
MapServer's homepage can be found easily on the internet. There is a lot of good documentation at the homepage and a large and active mailing archive that has helped me many times.
PHP used to be an important language for implementing MapServer
With the rise of PostGIS, you have full free access to a powerful enterprise level spatial database system. You don't need PHP anymore.
Most people seem to use the Linux flavours of MapServer. I have had great success with the Windows CGI version. With a little ASP to help thing here and there, you are only limited by your imagination.
MapServer with PostGIS has become so versatile and easy to use, that Esri's ArcIMS and ArcSDE are as good as dead. Why spend $50,000+ to setup the Esri crap when you have all this free stuff available that works far more reliably and can handle multi-gigabyte datasources faster than ArcIMS can handle a 10mb file?
Just because we can't identify it, doesn't mean its proof of alien existance.
...as in UFO ... Unidentified Flying Object ...
It simply means we can't identify it
UFO does not mean alien.
Jumping to conclusions like this is how religions start. you dont want to do that now do you?
Speaking as a GIS tech/programmer, and geologist ... holding back geospatial data from free public use will hurt the enonomy far more than any of those imagined threats. If a terrorist really wants to know where a target is, he can just wander on past with a GPS.
If the US government really cared, they wouldn't have turned of the 'selective availability' distortion that used to reduce the accuracy of common GPS units from a nice 10m accuracy down to an annoying 100m.
I think history has proven that at least so far terrorists attacking the US have preferred large symbolic targets, the kind that you can't hide, where openly available geospatial data is irrelevant.
And consider that having as much data available as possible to the public enables all kinds of value added / data mining uses to crop up that the data owners might never think of themselves. There are many business models out there working right now, feeding families.
Open free exchange and full interoperability if geospatial data is the future. It is happening now through the Open GIS Consortium, GML, and through free open source programs such as Grass, and MapServer. Good things happen when the right people have easy access to your spatial data.
Do your part! set up a MapServer WMS server today, make your spatial data available to the world yet still maintain control (the server passes out raster map layers that become part of a user's raster map, no one gets your valuable vectors)
sasser can't attack computers behind a typical firewall. There's a couple dozen computers where i work that are not updated, have not been in months that were not affected.
... at all the linux users being attacked though linux's many security holes that are simply overlooked today due to the linux community being too small to care about.
... compared to a fresh install of XP, without a firewall a home computer of mine became infected within 10 minutes of being online attempting to install the security patches.
As usual, the story is meant to scare the ignorant. quick deployment to protect against sasser is irrelevant so long as mobile computers are looked after first and a firewall is present.
I cant wait until the 'year of the linux desktop' finally starts, or did that pass already? So hard to tell when that headline has been used every couple months for the last 5 years.
If it ever does happen, I will be grinning ear to ear
This is not a troll, but im sure those most affected by the problem will miss the point ... anywho ...
... you simply wouldnt have those toys.
Just be like Bush
Ignore any trade agreements / laws.
Put a huge tariff on any work done overseas for US companies regardless of how reasonable or fair it is for the work to be done in the manner it is in those other countries. (you are afterall the only important people anywhere, screw all others, they don't deserve what you can have)
Let your own companies die a slow painful death, killing your economy because all other companies around the world are able to compete better.
The programmers in India live a very good life there because the cost of living is much lower than it is here. I wonder how much of the high cost here is due to the ignorant protectionism that has nearly destroyed the US agriculture, sugar, lumber and other industries?
Don't like that someone else can live a good life doing what you do for less? Go live the good life in India instead of twiddling your thumbs here.
Why shouldn't programming / IT work be outsourced? manufacturing of everything you use every day has been outsourced (manufactured elsewhere) 30 or more years! Just imagine what you would have to pay for your favourite toys if you had to pay for them to be made in the US!