>No NAT issues (SIP is retarded with NAT - check out how SDP works).
The real way to solve NAT issues is through centralization or upnp. If your computer pokes a hole through the firewall for skype theres a chance your computer will now be skypes 'super-node.' Phone calls for other people will be routed through you, using up your bandwidth. Instead of skype centralizing the process and routing them through some central authority or implementing unpnp, they are simply using users as phone p2p. Which is fine for a free service but when Im paying I dont want skype to also make money off my pc and internet connection.
>or you wouldn't need that stupid $25 router in the first place!
Or you know, the windows firewall that came with your xp system. Enable it. Block printer and file sharing ports on the local lan (MS default). Now download your updates.
Maybe. Maybe not. The best selling SUV in america is the Jeep Liberty. Its interior is dead simple. The best selling mp3 player is the ipod. Best selling truck is the ford 150. Even simpler console.
The complexity sells argument doesnt seem to hold water. From my experience people are intimidated by all the silly buttons and features they are paying for but will never use.
I dont think he was ever this golden child you describe. If you view his voting record (check out the aclu's site) you'll see he votes 100% straight GOP/social conservative almost all the time. The 'moderate' 'straight-talk' stuff is just PR. Don't feel bad, lots of people fell for it. Personally I think he's a poor politician but a great SNL/Daily Show guest.
I have a pretty low opinion of photojournalists and find the 'luck factor' explanation compelling. Those without luck do such things as fake scenes like how photojournalists creatively moved stuffed animals near bombed out buildings in beriut or were knowingly manipulated by hezbollah PR people just to get that one shot that would make their careers. Its a field full of unethical people doing something closer to art and fabrication than reporting. If they go the way of the dodo, well, it wont be surprising and it will probably be for the best.
Exactly, in fact people who always point out whats 'wrong with movies' are missing quite a bit. Just about everything is inaccurate in film. Cars, roads, signs, fashion, architecture, lingo, etc. Everything is done for effect and it works. Even the most hardened documentaries use quite a bit of artistic license.
How do I know the build I have now doesnt have some bullshit back door to either autoupdate or spy on me? Its not exactly open source. If MPAA money is involved in this then utorrent users should be wary about downloading MPAA owned copyrights. I would think that the current version is now a moderate privacy and security risk.
Im not saying you can't write a user-space trojan, Im saying no one does. I'm also saying that to use advancing hiding techniques (loading/registering as a dll, replacing dlls in system32, io streams, driver/kernal hijacking, etc) you would need to have admin access. Without advanced hiding malware is much more easily caught by scanners and removed on the first attempt.
The poster upstream more or less laughed at how lua is a vista concept. Not so. Its as old as NT, at least in the windows world, and even today is a great detterment against malware. LUA practices along with scanners and patching goes a long way. Hell, if I had to take one of thsoe things away Id give away my virus scanner and run as LUA with all the patches. It would be more secure.
>Whether or not you think electronic voting can ever work, from a simple cost-effectiveness standpoint it is an asinine goal to pursue.
This is absolutey not true. Electronic voting done right works in many places, most notably Brazil. Theyve had some scandals but now they have paper verified voting. You vote and it prints out a slip of paper. The paper goes in a bag in case of contestment. (is that a word?) Not to mention Brazil is HUGE country. Its almost 200 million. We're at 300 million and we dont even have compulsory voting. So if those cats can get it right so can we. There is also cost savings here.
I believe Australia (or was it new zealand) had to open their voting machine code to satisfy a transparency law. From what I remember security researchers got to analyze it and produce a report to the government.
At the end of the day -some- machine will be reading a voet. Be it a simple scanner that reads dots and outputs its count onto some piece of paper. The idea that involving more humans into the process is good is questionable, to me at least. There has always been x amount of spoilage be it due to incompetence and fraud. Electronic voting isn't much better or much worse. In fact with better logging it could show us who is messing with the votes. Lets not be luddites here.
The problem here is the cronyism. You cant make voting machines in the for-profit/old boys club. These machines (or least their designs) need to be first developed by the government, tested by the government, open to the people, then sent to manufacturers. The top down approach of business approaching government with a machine designed in-house is terrible for this kind of application. There's more transparency in the defense industry than in the voting industry. The American implemention is just flawed . Better to address the flaws than dismiss electronic voting. The genie is out of the bottle.
Right. Why arent the credit card processors doing anything about this? They should have a policy to pull accounts charging cards through spam advertised websites. Or at least warn them or investigate them for fraud. I see they had no problem pulling the credit plug off some big mp3 site because the RIAA said so.
>but rather that they'll compromise data integrity/security.
Err no they dont. Usually they spam/bot trojans that will do the following:
Write to windows/system32, the registry, etc to hide itself and make itself install again on reboot. Blocked usually as a limited access user.
Open up listening ports for remote commands. Limited users can't do this, unless an admin has given them lax firewall settings.
Register dll's. Nope. Limited users can;t do this either.
Again, its not so hard to realize that most exploits dont work against restricted users. Its not a panacea for security but it helps a whole hell of a lot. The same way you shouldnt run as root all the time, you shouldnt run as admin all the time on windows.
Centrino is a marketing term which more of less mean an intel cpu and an intel wireless chipset . Its an intel marketing strategy which more or less tells oems "We'll advertise this thing, you buy it, there will be demand." And frankly it works. Centrino products tend to be nice little packages.
Regardless, intel probably sees that it costs little to nothing to build in pre-n tech into their newer chipsets. Businesses and home users both want the supposed greater range and bandwidth. Apple has already done this. In their new Macs the wifi chipset is a broadcome pre-n chip. The worst case scenario is this stuff goes unused (or underused) until the final draft comes up.
>f no serious dissenting opinions exist, then the noise about counter-claims will be exposed as overblown hearsay.
Or it would simply legitimize the "best of the worst" the way the Republicans have legitmized Creationism with their similiar attempts at "equal time." Creationism to millions of people never got exposed as 'overblown hearsay' because of faux-skeptical attempts like the one we're seeing.
Why is it everytime there's a consensus about something we don't like to accept, there are the usual gang of usual suspects out there catering to our fears? Afraid of a 6 billon year old world? Creationists. Afraid of space miliarization/the future? Moon landing deniers. Afraid of the free market? Communists. Afraid of disease? Homeopathy. Afraid of secular education? Home Schoolers.
Painting these chracters as a dismissed victims by the big consensus is bordering on silliness. Sometimes an authority has to say "You know, this is bullshit."
Youre going to get a lot of replies, mostly saying "NO! It was done by this company." and that person will reply "No, it was done by this company first!" then another person will reply "No, this university came up with the idea." "NO! it was this eastern european researcher who wrote the paper!" "NO! It was this science fiction writer no one has read!" And so forth.
I think theres some kudos to bringing an idea or implementation to market and making it affordable for most people. I'm not sure innovation is the word here, but its real work and deserves real credit. I don't think its just marketing, as some cynics have already suggested.
I think the submitter "http://info.riaalawsuits.us/" is really just waiting to get that big class action against the RIAA and carefully crafts an image that techies can sympathize with, cuts out 'extraneous details' like the ones you mention, and waits for the big payola.
Too much self-promotion here and casual tossing of the facts for my taste.
I dont think there have been any 'free' communist societies. The main problem, and this is why people equate communism and dictatorships, is that when you livelihood comes from the government (they control all land and all business) its very difficult to express your concerns or even vote someone out of office. Its like voting against your boss, except your boss will probably know how you voted. Thats why so many communist elections are shams.
Owning your own land and making your own living decentralizes power. These conditions usually lead to some kind of group decision making like a democracy. Having one entity control land and the means of production is centralization and there's no real incentive to go about and have a real democracy when you citizens are more or less powerless serfs.
>#1 is just from ignorance and assume if the Job is difficult for them to do that it will be difficult for the computer to do.
I'm not sure about that. The difficulty lies in getting a good programmer and whether or not a program is worth the cost.
I think there's no shortage of consultants who do nothing but fleece small business by coming in with an automated solution that is either an excel macro or some craptackular access database which are usually flakey, crash-prone, half-assed, and difficult to backup properly. Not to mention it ties them more into the MS monopoly.
Even if you find yourself a good app developer there are costs to consider. If it still cheaper to do it by hand, then why bother? Especially considering the glut of labor in the US. Heck, people go to college, get saddled with loans, and are happy to take 30,000 a year jobs. Toss in all the foreign workers chopping at the bit to come here too. From a business perspective having them do the same old makes financial sense and I'm sure some people look at automation with some amount of fears as it might make them redundant.
>The concern that it makes itself the default browser is valid but using the word 'hijacking' is a bit strong.
Its there for comedic effect. I wanted to download an extension for thunderbird. Firefox assumes the xpi is for itself and tries to install it. The ff developers removed the "save as" button from the xpi download window. The mozilla web people made the extension website so you cant just right-click and save as to download an extension. Instead of trying to find the ftp depository, the right version, etc I had to use IE to download an xpi. Now thats funny.
Toss in the dumbed down interface (larger tabs, tab scrolling) and dumbed down options, well, Im concerned.
The slippery slope will eventually end with them making it illegal to even have kids, as thats the only way to fully protect against victimization. Then we'll all win (or lose).
>he Democratic party tends to spend more on socialism^H^H^H programs.
Right, I can't get enough of this free healthcare and free education here in the states! Oh wait. For reference the money spent in Iraq could have funded a manned Mars mission. Maybe two. You can thank the republicans for that.
Sure,the moon program was started by Eisenhower but it was JFK who paid for it, pushed it, and made it happen. He was a democrat.
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Being a gamer does not a geek make, except to the media. Playing Madden all day with your frat brothers suddenly makes you a world-class hacker. Its bad enough from dead-tree publications with 100+ years of history but from Cnet? Worse, they can't even get this list right. Almost half of it is fluff. I really do hope they just retract this shoddy piece of entertainment 'journalism.'
On the flip side I don't see anything wrong with the occasional silly entry. Say if this list was a solid 9 geeky women and one Lisa Simpson that's cute. If its 5 solid women and 5 fluff women, then its silly bordering on insulting.
While I full-heartedly agree with teaching theory and hands-on project I always find the "idealized past" argument to be, frankly, full of shit. Kids weren't smarter in the past. You just would like to believe they are. In the future people will be saying "Back in the 2000's kids were writing HTML and Javascript by hand, now they're just sitting around using telepathy helmets!!!!"
Oh, you forgot to add that kids in the 50s walked to school everday, even on the weekends, uphill both ways, in the rain, while chased by radioactive gorillas.
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>No NAT issues (SIP is retarded with NAT - check out how SDP works).
The real way to solve NAT issues is through centralization or upnp. If your computer pokes a hole through the firewall for skype theres a chance your computer will now be skypes 'super-node.' Phone calls for other people will be routed through you, using up your bandwidth. Instead of skype centralizing the process and routing them through some central authority or implementing unpnp, they are simply using users as phone p2p. Which is fine for a free service but when Im paying I dont want skype to also make money off my pc and internet connection.
>or you wouldn't need that stupid $25 router in the first place!
Or you know, the windows firewall that came with your xp system. Enable it. Block printer and file sharing ports on the local lan (MS default). Now download your updates.
Maybe. Maybe not. The best selling SUV in america is the Jeep Liberty. Its interior is dead simple. The best selling mp3 player is the ipod. Best selling truck is the ford 150. Even simpler console.
The complexity sells argument doesnt seem to hold water. From my experience people are intimidated by all the silly buttons and features they are paying for but will never use.
I dont think he was ever this golden child you describe. If you view his voting record (check out the aclu's site) you'll see he votes 100% straight GOP/social conservative almost all the time. The 'moderate' 'straight-talk' stuff is just PR. Don't feel bad, lots of people fell for it. Personally I think he's a poor politician but a great SNL/Daily Show guest.
I have a pretty low opinion of photojournalists and find the 'luck factor' explanation compelling. Those without luck do such things as fake scenes like how photojournalists creatively moved stuffed animals near bombed out buildings in beriut or were knowingly manipulated by hezbollah PR people just to get that one shot that would make their careers. Its a field full of unethical people doing something closer to art and fabrication than reporting. If they go the way of the dodo, well, it wont be surprising and it will probably be for the best.
Exactly, in fact people who always point out whats 'wrong with movies' are missing quite a bit. Just about everything is inaccurate in film. Cars, roads, signs, fashion, architecture, lingo, etc. Everything is done for effect and it works. Even the most hardened documentaries use quite a bit of artistic license.
How do I know the build I have now doesnt have some bullshit back door to either autoupdate or spy on me? Its not exactly open source. If MPAA money is involved in this then utorrent users should be wary about downloading MPAA owned copyrights. I would think that the current version is now a moderate privacy and security risk.
Im not saying you can't write a user-space trojan, Im saying no one does. I'm also saying that to use advancing hiding techniques (loading/registering as a dll, replacing dlls in system32, io streams, driver/kernal hijacking, etc) you would need to have admin access. Without advanced hiding malware is much more easily caught by scanners and removed on the first attempt.
The poster upstream more or less laughed at how lua is a vista concept. Not so. Its as old as NT, at least in the windows world, and even today is a great detterment against malware. LUA practices along with scanners and patching goes a long way. Hell, if I had to take one of thsoe things away Id give away my virus scanner and run as LUA with all the patches. It would be more secure.
>Whether or not you think electronic voting can ever work, from a simple cost-effectiveness standpoint it is an asinine goal to pursue.
This is absolutey not true. Electronic voting done right works in many places, most notably Brazil. Theyve had some scandals but now they have paper verified voting. You vote and it prints out a slip of paper. The paper goes in a bag in case of contestment. (is that a word?) Not to mention Brazil is HUGE country. Its almost 200 million. We're at 300 million and we dont even have compulsory voting. So if those cats can get it right so can we. There is also cost savings here.
I believe Australia (or was it new zealand) had to open their voting machine code to satisfy a transparency law. From what I remember security researchers got to analyze it and produce a report to the government.
At the end of the day -some- machine will be reading a voet. Be it a simple scanner that reads dots and outputs its count onto some piece of paper. The idea that involving more humans into the process is good is questionable, to me at least. There has always been x amount of spoilage be it due to incompetence and fraud. Electronic voting isn't much better or much worse. In fact with better logging it could show us who is messing with the votes. Lets not be luddites here.
The problem here is the cronyism. You cant make voting machines in the for-profit/old boys club. These machines (or least their designs) need to be first developed by the government, tested by the government, open to the people, then sent to manufacturers. The top down approach of business approaching government with a machine designed in-house is terrible for this kind of application. There's more transparency in the defense industry than in the voting industry. The American implemention is just flawed . Better to address the flaws than dismiss electronic voting. The genie is out of the bottle.
Right. Why arent the credit card processors doing anything about this? They should have a policy to pull accounts charging cards through spam advertised websites. Or at least warn them or investigate them for fraud. I see they had no problem pulling the credit plug off some big mp3 site because the RIAA said so.
>but rather that they'll compromise data integrity/security.
Err no they dont. Usually they spam/bot trojans that will do the following:
Write to windows/system32, the registry, etc to hide itself and make itself install again on reboot. Blocked usually as a limited access user.
Open up listening ports for remote commands. Limited users can't do this, unless an admin has given them lax firewall settings.
Register dll's. Nope. Limited users can;t do this either.
Again, its not so hard to realize that most exploits dont work against restricted users. Its not a panacea for security but it helps a whole hell of a lot. The same way you shouldnt run as root all the time, you shouldnt run as admin all the time on windows.
Centrino is a marketing term which more of less mean an intel cpu and an intel wireless chipset . Its an intel marketing strategy which more or less tells oems "We'll advertise this thing, you buy it, there will be demand." And frankly it works. Centrino products tend to be nice little packages.
Regardless, intel probably sees that it costs little to nothing to build in pre-n tech into their newer chipsets. Businesses and home users both want the supposed greater range and bandwidth. Apple has already done this. In their new Macs the wifi chipset is a broadcome pre-n chip. The worst case scenario is this stuff goes unused (or underused) until the final draft comes up.
>What _are_ these "ads" people are talking about?
Edit your hosts file. The "ads" are the empty boxes you used to see blinky annoying things in.
>f no serious dissenting opinions exist, then the noise about counter-claims will be exposed as overblown hearsay.
Or it would simply legitimize the "best of the worst" the way the Republicans have legitmized Creationism with their similiar attempts at "equal time." Creationism to millions of people never got exposed as 'overblown hearsay' because of faux-skeptical attempts like the one we're seeing.
Why is it everytime there's a consensus about something we don't like to accept, there are the usual gang of usual suspects out there catering to our fears? Afraid of a 6 billon year old world? Creationists. Afraid of space miliarization/the future? Moon landing deniers. Afraid of the free market? Communists. Afraid of disease? Homeopathy. Afraid of secular education? Home Schoolers.
Painting these chracters as a dismissed victims by the big consensus is bordering on silliness. Sometimes an authority has to say "You know, this is bullshit."
I swear officer, he was alive a minute ago. He was just sitting in front of his PC trying to check his bank balance!
Youre going to get a lot of replies, mostly saying "NO! It was done by this company." and that person will reply "No, it was done by this company first!" then another person will reply "No, this university came up with the idea." "NO! it was this eastern european researcher who wrote the paper!" "NO! It was this science fiction writer no one has read!" And so forth.
I think theres some kudos to bringing an idea or implementation to market and making it affordable for most people. I'm not sure innovation is the word here, but its real work and deserves real credit. I don't think its just marketing, as some cynics have already suggested.
I think the submitter "http://info.riaalawsuits.us/" is really just waiting to get that big class action against the RIAA and carefully crafts an image that techies can sympathize with, cuts out 'extraneous details' like the ones you mention, and waits for the big payola.
Too much self-promotion here and casual tossing of the facts for my taste.
I dont think there have been any 'free' communist societies. The main problem, and this is why people equate communism and dictatorships, is that when you livelihood comes from the government (they control all land and all business) its very difficult to express your concerns or even vote someone out of office. Its like voting against your boss, except your boss will probably know how you voted. Thats why so many communist elections are shams.
Owning your own land and making your own living decentralizes power. These conditions usually lead to some kind of group decision making like a democracy. Having one entity control land and the means of production is centralization and there's no real incentive to go about and have a real democracy when you citizens are more or less powerless serfs.
>#1 is just from ignorance and assume if the Job is difficult for them to do that it will be difficult for the computer to do.
I'm not sure about that. The difficulty lies in getting a good programmer and whether or not a program is worth the cost.
I think there's no shortage of consultants who do nothing but fleece small business by coming in with an automated solution that is either an excel macro or some craptackular access database which are usually flakey, crash-prone, half-assed, and difficult to backup properly. Not to mention it ties them more into the MS monopoly.
Even if you find yourself a good app developer there are costs to consider. If it still cheaper to do it by hand, then why bother? Especially considering the glut of labor in the US. Heck, people go to college, get saddled with loans, and are happy to take 30,000 a year jobs. Toss in all the foreign workers chopping at the bit to come here too. From a business perspective having them do the same old makes financial sense and I'm sure some people look at automation with some amount of fears as it might make them redundant.
>The concern that it makes itself the default browser is valid but using the word 'hijacking' is a bit strong.
Its there for comedic effect. I wanted to download an extension for thunderbird. Firefox assumes the xpi is for itself and tries to install it. The ff developers removed the "save as" button from the xpi download window. The mozilla web people made the extension website so you cant just right-click and save as to download an extension. Instead of trying to find the ftp depository, the right version, etc I had to use IE to download an xpi. Now thats funny.
Toss in the dumbed down interface (larger tabs, tab scrolling) and dumbed down options, well, Im concerned.
The slippery slope will eventually end with them making it illegal to even have kids, as thats the only way to fully protect against victimization. Then we'll all win (or lose).
>he Democratic party tends to spend more on socialism^H^H^H programs.
Right, I can't get enough of this free healthcare and free education here in the states! Oh wait. For reference the money spent in Iraq could have funded a manned Mars mission. Maybe two. You can thank the republicans for that.
Sure,the moon program was started by Eisenhower but it was JFK who paid for it, pushed it, and made it happen. He was a democrat.
Being a gamer does not a geek make, except to the media. Playing Madden all day with your frat brothers suddenly makes you a world-class hacker. Its bad enough from dead-tree publications with 100+ years of history but from Cnet? Worse, they can't even get this list right. Almost half of it is fluff. I really do hope they just retract this shoddy piece of entertainment 'journalism.'
On the flip side I don't see anything wrong with the occasional silly entry. Say if this list was a solid 9 geeky women and one Lisa Simpson that's cute. If its 5 solid women and 5 fluff women, then its silly bordering on insulting.
Its so calm in here. If this was IE most of the posts would be "WTF M$, 10 DAYZ!!!!!!!! Switch to firefox now!!!!!" Go figure.
While I full-heartedly agree with teaching theory and hands-on project I always find the "idealized past" argument to be, frankly, full of shit. Kids weren't smarter in the past. You just would like to believe they are. In the future people will be saying "Back in the 2000's kids were writing HTML and Javascript by hand, now they're just sitting around using telepathy helmets!!!!"
Oh, you forgot to add that kids in the 50s walked to school everday, even on the weekends, uphill both ways, in the rain, while chased by radioactive gorillas.