This debate has graced these boards so much now that it makes me sick. Who cares? Let's get to something substantial. Besides, everybody knows my Dad invented the internet.
Check out the Cyborg Handbook. (I don't have ISBN or author on me, but e-mail me and I'll provide.) The definition they provide is akin to this: any being modified by use of device is a cyborg. Therefore, if you wear glasses or have pacemaker, strictly speaking, you are a cyborg. To say that only those beings with electronic/mechanical implants are cyborgs is limiting the term down in the other extreme. It's all a matter of perspective. We are still just animals with tools no matter how highfallutin those tools may be.
Wait, why are certain groups inclusive of a 5-year age range and others 2 or 3? That would seriously affect the distribution in your figures.
"Facts are lazy and facts are late. Facts are silly and facts are straight. Facts don't come with points of view. Facts don't do what I want them to. Facts are twisting the truth around. Facts are living turned upside down. Facts are getting the best of them. Facts are nothing in the face of things." -"Cross-eyed and Painless" Talking Heads
Actually, most corporations effectively concentrate wealth better than they disseminate it. Look at all the smaller businesses, companies and other corporations that get gobbled up along the way. This past decade has seen a concentration of wealth like no other, along with a widening of the gap between the economic strata. There may be more leisure time for the top brackets, but check the lower rungs, particularly of the working poor and you won't see many people taking vacations.
I agree that Lem is someone to check out, though he is a much different writer. Many of his novels are idea novels to the point of being philosophy. I'm thinking specifically of
Chain of Chance
and
His Master's Voice
. Those two works are serious examinations of probability and the problems inherent in inquiry whether it be the search for extraterrestrial life or a criminal investigation. Lem has also whimsical side as you mentioned, almost like Lewis Carroll, full of insane wordplay that holds up remarkable well in translation. The
Futurological Congress
stands out as the best example. It's a bad acid trip through some possible and impossible futures. Check it out.
"I think the drug laws cause more problems than they solve but bringing in this racism
canard is wrong."
I quite agree. We should limit the use of racist ducks to further an argument. I would further posit that all racist animals lack the proper objectivity to reason effectively.
Just keep trying to define new technology, modes of thought in terms of old laws designed to cover material goods and this is what you come up with. We've been struggling with our mammalian instincts for a while. I pissed here, so it is mine. No, I pissed here first! Whatever. As human pursuits become more immaterial, idea-driven, and less bound to definable boundries like land, we will have to evolve our conceptions of what "belongs" to us. There's nothing there to piss on any more.
Hagbard himself told me that they don't use sound as it interferes with the communication protocols that are already in use and have been in place for millions of years. Disrupting the seawide web will disrupt the global position shouts and land many unsuspecting travelers in nasty little nets and effectively isolate many migratory convoys. This crap is primitive compared to the level of communication it is disrupting. Imagine trying to have a conversation, make a date, drive your car and find a restaurant while someone is screaming inconsequential bullshit/noise at you. Expect to see more large mammals calling it quits in your local bay or estuary. And, also, don't forget, GET OFF YOUR CELLPHONE AND DRIVE. That is, until you get get it built into your head. Then you can look forward to getting spam delivered strait into your thick skull.
"As most physicists interpret the experiment, it is a low-intensity precursor (sometimes called a tail, even when it comes first) of the incoming wave that clues the cesium chamber to the imminent arrival of a pulse."
Sounds like this supports Cramer's handshake transaction theory of Quantum Mechanics. "In the absorber theory description any emission process makes advanced waves on an equal basis with ordinary "retarded" waves." Check out his short and quite readable explanation of the theory here. The site explains a lot of this quantum hoodoo in laymen's terms. It's all in your head anyways.
Heisenberg's Knowledge Interpretation- the notion that the wave function is neither a physical wave travelling through space nor a direct description of a physical system, but rather is a mathematically encoded description of the knowledge of an observer who is making a measurement on the system. Spooky, eh?
proprietary (pr-pr-tr) adj. Abbr. prop., pty. Of or relating to a proprietor or to proprietors as a group: proprietary rights. Exclusively owned; private: a proprietary hospital. Befitting an owner: a proprietary air. Owned by a private individual or corporation under a trademark or patent: a proprietary drug. What goombah would argue this? Or is of the thoughtspeak perspective: War is Peace. Torture is Love. It's so open, it's closed. *hits head against wall several times* Oh, now it makes sense.
Do you use another cesium fountain clock to determine when you should check the other cesium clock or do you just do the old "one thousand one..."? What's checking the other cesium fountain clock? Perhaps there's an old swiss guy at the end of this regression holding a small can of oil.
Just because we all believe this shared hallucination doesn't make it real. Or maybe we should define it this way: someone told you that this piece of paper is real and worth a zillion dollars. It's a confidence game and it only works as long as all the marks believe it. When the confidence goes away, the Bear shows up. As far as the dollar is concerned, there's a lot more voodoo behind it than you think.
Anybody remember the science fiction novella called "True Names" by Vernor Vinge? I read that as a sprout, must have been written in '81 or so. It's about a kind of den'o'iniquity BBS and the cyber-criminals that hang out there. They had 3D avatars/login handles and interacted without knowing each other. I thought that was so far-flung at the time. After that, a friend introduced me to BBSs on his Amiga. There were quite a few in Kansas in the mid-80s. Used to play a mud, Sherwood's Forest out of Manhattan, KS. Anybody from Kansas remember?
Try the Zope web app server. Zope turns all docs/folders into objects, assigning permissions is at its core. Just give users who log in permissions over a certain level of the document hierarchy and they're collaborating. A little knowledge of XML or Python and you can wing it with finesse. ITrack is a collaborative issues tracker. And Squishdot is the discussion widget with the look and feel of your favorite flamefest. The Zope community is rapidly extending and support is getting better with improved documentation and user's groups.
I think the "sucks" term needs to be rethought. It is high time we stopped denigrating those persons and things that suck. Anyone who has been the benificiary of such an activity will know it is a Good Thing(tm).
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This debate has graced these boards so much now that it makes me sick. Who cares? Let's get to something substantial. Besides, everybody knows my Dad invented the internet.
Check out the Cyborg Handbook. (I don't have ISBN or author on me, but e-mail me and I'll provide.) The definition they provide is akin to this: any being modified by use of device is a cyborg. Therefore, if you wear glasses or have pacemaker, strictly speaking, you are a cyborg. To say that only those beings with electronic/mechanical implants are cyborgs is limiting the term down in the other extreme. It's all a matter of perspective. We are still just animals with tools no matter how highfallutin those tools may be.
The real test is who would be the best lacky. From that standpoint I think Bush fits the bill better.
C'mon, substantiate your points. How is Bush a better listener? Are you saying this because he can't speak worth a piss?
Wait, why are certain groups inclusive of a 5-year age range and others 2 or 3? That would seriously affect the distribution in your figures.
"Facts are lazy and facts are late. Facts are silly and facts are straight. Facts don't come with points of view. Facts don't do what I want them to. Facts are twisting the truth around. Facts are living turned upside down. Facts are getting the best of them. Facts are nothing in the face of things." -"Cross-eyed and Painless" Talking Heads
Who do you think makes the laws that corporations must follow? The law fairy?
Actually, most corporations effectively concentrate wealth better than they disseminate it. Look at all the smaller businesses, companies and other corporations that get gobbled up along the way. This past decade has seen a concentration of wealth like no other, along with a widening of the gap between the economic strata. There may be more leisure time for the top brackets, but check the lower rungs, particularly of the working poor and you won't see many people taking vacations.
I think I'll just duck when you flame me.
- Chain of Chance
and- His Master's Voice
. Those two works are serious examinations of probability and the problems inherent in inquiry whether it be the search for extraterrestrial life or a criminal investigation. Lem has also whimsical side as you mentioned, almost like Lewis Carroll, full of insane wordplay that holds up remarkable well in translation. The- Futurological Congress
stands out as the best example. It's a bad acid trip through some possible and impossible futures. Check it out.this is the way i always get into nytimes, but it didn't work this time...
I quite agree. We should limit the use of racist ducks to further an argument. I would further posit that all racist animals lack the proper objectivity to reason effectively.
put up a picture and show it off!
Dood, use quotes and you can display the whole name?
http://www.com.org is already taken, so you cannot designate amazon.com.org to them. You are an ingrate, but a somewhat amusing ingrate.
use yer brane. nobuddy wunts yer voat.
Just keep trying to define new technology, modes of thought in terms of old laws designed to cover material goods and this is what you come up with. We've been struggling with our mammalian instincts for a while. I pissed here, so it is mine. No, I pissed here first! Whatever. As human pursuits become more immaterial, idea-driven, and less bound to definable boundries like land, we will have to evolve our conceptions of what "belongs" to us. There's nothing there to piss on any more.
Hagbard himself told me that they don't use sound as it interferes with the communication protocols that are already in use and have been in place for millions of years. Disrupting the seawide web will disrupt the global position shouts and land many unsuspecting travelers in nasty little nets and effectively isolate many migratory convoys. This crap is primitive compared to the level of communication it is disrupting. Imagine trying to have a conversation, make a date, drive your car and find a restaurant while someone is screaming inconsequential bullshit/noise at you. Expect to see more large mammals calling it quits in your local bay or estuary. And, also, don't forget, GET OFF YOUR CELLPHONE AND DRIVE. That is, until you get get it built into your head. Then you can look forward to getting spam delivered strait into your thick skull.
New format: fool the pigs with pig latin. Etallicamay. It's a lot shorter than the Zoom language.
"As most physicists interpret the experiment, it is a low-intensity precursor (sometimes called a tail, even when it comes first) of the incoming wave that clues the cesium chamber to the imminent arrival of a pulse."
Sounds like this supports Cramer's handshake transaction theory of Quantum Mechanics. "In the absorber theory description any emission process makes advanced waves on an equal basis with ordinary "retarded" waves." Check out his short and quite readable explanation of the theory here.
The site explains a lot of this quantum hoodoo in laymen's terms. It's all in your head anyways.
Heisenberg's Knowledge Interpretation- the notion that the wave function is neither a physical wave travelling through space nor a direct description of a physical system, but rather is a mathematically encoded description of the knowledge of an observer who is making a measurement on the system.
Spooky, eh?
proprietary (pr-pr-tr) adj. Abbr. prop., pty.
Of or relating to a proprietor or to proprietors as a group: proprietary rights. Exclusively owned; private: a proprietary hospital. Befitting an owner: a proprietary air. Owned by a private individual or corporation under a trademark or patent: a proprietary drug.
What goombah would argue this? Or is of the thoughtspeak perspective: War is Peace. Torture is Love. It's so open, it's closed. *hits head against wall several times* Oh, now it makes sense.
Do you use another cesium fountain clock to determine when you should check the other cesium clock or do you just do the old "one thousand one..."? What's checking the other cesium fountain clock? Perhaps there's an old swiss guy at the end of this regression holding a small can of oil.
Just because we all believe this shared hallucination doesn't make it real. Or maybe we should define it this way: someone told you that this piece of paper is real and worth a zillion dollars. It's a confidence game and it only works as long as all the marks believe it. When the confidence goes away, the Bear shows up. As far as the dollar is concerned, there's a lot more voodoo behind it than you think.
that's an anonymous coward for you...
Anybody remember the science fiction novella called "True Names" by Vernor Vinge? I read that as a sprout, must have been written in '81 or so. It's about a kind of den'o'iniquity BBS and the cyber-criminals that hang out there. They had 3D avatars/login handles and interacted without knowing each other. I thought that was so far-flung at the time. After that, a friend introduced me to BBSs on his Amiga. There were quite a few in Kansas in the mid-80s. Used to play a mud, Sherwood's Forest out of Manhattan, KS. Anybody from Kansas remember?
Try the Zope web app server. Zope turns all docs/folders into objects, assigning permissions is at its core. Just give users who log in permissions over a certain level of the document hierarchy and they're collaborating. A little knowledge of XML or Python and you can wing it with finesse. ITrack is a collaborative issues tracker. And Squishdot is the discussion widget with the look and feel of your favorite flamefest. The Zope community is rapidly extending and support is getting better with improved documentation and user's groups.
I think the "sucks" term needs to be rethought. It is high time we stopped denigrating those persons and things that suck. Anyone who has been the benificiary of such an activity will know it is a Good Thing(tm).