Confession: I have shuttle envy. I wanted a fanless machine for home but couldn't justify the cost.
For about a third of the price of your shuttle, I bought the fanless Atom NUC. It's no workhorse but good for basic computing such as slashdot commenting! When I have some free time I'll load openelec and android-x86 on it.
It'd be perfect if Intel added a few extra cores - for 75% more I could have bought the dual core Celeron Brix (also fanless).
I'll definitely look at trading up to the forthcoming Braswell Brix or NUC. The Atom should have reasonable resale value and in the next 6 months I will have saved $AU40 on my power bills!
But yeah I'd be a big fan (pun intended) of a Shuttle at work in preference to a noisy beige tower or a laptop.
videoconferencing is an essential business tool of the 21st century for remote workers and virtual communities. It's been submitted to the w3c as webRTC.
In any case, there used to be a Java applet client for FICS, someone has probably written an HTML5 chess client without requiring extensive web specifications to be implemented by each browser.
Single Core 1.46Ghz, 8GB of RAM (complete overkill). 64bit Linux, iceweasel process has NEVER used more than 1.5GB. 3 tabs open currently sitting at 341.3MB
Are you just trolling or is there some mysterious combination of extensions and addons that requires an 8 core box?
Well either you accept the direction the web is moving or you don't. Firefox 3.6, the last of the traditional firefox releases, was 5 years ago... The genie won't be put back in the bottle.
No, I'm not Lennart but I can see that the web has evolved from 25 years ago when it was a simple viewer for hypertext into an application platform. Some might harken for simpler days but that's progress.
If you want to do videoconferencing, install Skype. Or pick an open source solution, there are plenty.
Which fails the grandma test, since its another piece of technology that grandson has to support and maintain on her computer.
In any case, you're suggesting a browser plugin as an alternative and in the same breath talk about reducing the attack service... Mozilla are proactively reducing reliance on browser plugins, e.g. (1) by supporting HTML5 to create an alternative to Java applets, (2) Developing pdf.js to substitute for Acrobat Reader, (3) Supporting video formats formerly requiring flash (4) Developing shumway for other legacy content. All use the same sandboxing model which reduces the attack service from what plugins provided.
Now you talk about firefox stability with multiple tabs, which are slowly perhaps glacially being addressed by servo and electrolysis. Surely that's a limitation of the implementation that a flaw of videoconferencing?
[Perhaps I should apply for a job at Mozilla; I do spend a good deal of time defending it on here!:) ]
The 'Hello' service may or may not be firefox-only but the technology behind it is in the HTML5 spec. So any compliant HTML5 implementor can trivially support it.
that is, only if the 3 other browser implementors don't stymie efforts by tieing people to their own service. Which should not surprise you that the companies that develop IE, Chrome and Safari each control Skype, Hangouts and FaceTime respectively and have a vested interest in fragmentation.
Let's see there's skype (that requires installing a closed source binary from the evil empire), FaceTime (that only works on Apple hardware), Hangouts (that requires a Google account, and yes there are still people on the planet...) Other technologies exist but those are the most Grandma-friendly.
Videoconferencing from any device on the planet without installing any special software is bloat?
Intel did license Transmeta's patents, if only to keep an iron in the fire. According to wikipedia, Transmeta at the time had code morphing working supposedly utilizing lower power but slower in terms of performance relative to clock speed. Now the balance has switched from the Mhz wars to all-day battery life on fanless machines. In competing with ARM, sacrificing a bit of performance for power consumption might be a winner.
I dunno much about Mill but if you read their whitepaper(s), it *sounds* revolutionary in venture capitalist speak.
And for the Russian chip, they have their own native ISA but emulate x86, which some have been saying is a millstone but required for binary compatibility.
I'm not having a go at the folks at Intel, clever blokes than me... They did try producing a revolutonary new platform as a successor to x86 - but the Itanic proved less than successful.
A million dollars wouldn't buy you much, sadly. Sydney, where many of the senior government politicians hail from, has one of the most overvalued property markets in the world.
Costa Rica, eh? I was thinking Chile or Uruguay...
It's not notable because it doesn't have its own wikipedia page - it doesn't have a wikipedia page because it's not notable.
Every time Jimmy Wales begs for a donation I cite shit like this. Small minded editors with way too much time on their hands who delete stuff for the sake of their own egos.
NB: I'm not expecting Core i7 performance nor Windows compatibility.
I recently replaced a noisy home desktop with a fanless Intel NUC - which based on energy usage, should save me around $AU65 a year on power bills, with a payback within Intel's 3 warranty, assuming I don't trade-in for the latest NUC or Brix in the meantime. (NB, I'm not a fan of laptops, having gone through 3 in 6 years - broken screen connectors and power supplies plus preferring full size keyboards and multi-monitors)
Some have mentioned lack of ethernet - thus requiring a usb dongle for office use.
So I guess what i'm asking is, where is the octo-core ARM box with user upgradeable RAM to challenge Intel NUC and Gigabyte Brix for the femto-pc market?
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For about a third of the price of your shuttle, I bought the fanless Atom NUC. It's no workhorse but good for basic computing such as slashdot commenting! When I have some free time I'll load openelec and android-x86 on it.
It'd be perfect if Intel added a few extra cores - for 75% more I could have bought the dual core Celeron Brix (also fanless).
I'll definitely look at trading up to the forthcoming Braswell Brix or NUC. The Atom should have reasonable resale value and in the next 6 months I will have saved $AU40 on my power bills!
But yeah I'd be a big fan (pun intended) of a Shuttle at work in preference to a noisy beige tower or a laptop.
videoconferencing is an essential business tool of the 21st century for remote workers and virtual communities. It's been submitted to the w3c as webRTC.
In any case, there used to be a Java applet client for FICS, someone has probably written an HTML5 chess client without requiring extensive web specifications to be implemented by each browser.
Single Core 1.46Ghz, 8GB of RAM (complete overkill). 64bit Linux, iceweasel process has NEVER used more than 1.5GB. 3 tabs open currently sitting at 341.3MB
Are you just trolling or is there some mysterious combination of extensions and addons that requires an 8 core box?
Well either you accept the direction the web is moving or you don't. Firefox 3.6, the last of the traditional firefox releases, was 5 years ago... The genie won't be put back in the bottle.
Which fails the grandma test, since its another piece of technology that grandson has to support and maintain on her computer.
In any case, you're suggesting a browser plugin as an alternative and in the same breath talk about reducing the attack service... Mozilla are proactively reducing reliance on browser plugins, e.g. (1) by supporting HTML5 to create an alternative to Java applets, (2) Developing pdf.js to substitute for Acrobat Reader, (3) Supporting video formats formerly requiring flash (4) Developing shumway for other legacy content. All use the same sandboxing model which reduces the attack service from what plugins provided.
Now you talk about firefox stability with multiple tabs, which are slowly perhaps glacially being addressed by servo and electrolysis. Surely that's a limitation of the implementation that a flaw of videoconferencing?
[Perhaps I should apply for a job at Mozilla; I do spend a good deal of time defending it on here! :) ]
The 'Hello' service may or may not be firefox-only but the technology behind it is in the HTML5 spec. So any compliant HTML5 implementor can trivially support it.
that is, only if the 3 other browser implementors don't stymie efforts by tieing people to their own service. Which should not surprise you that the companies that develop IE, Chrome and Safari each control Skype, Hangouts and FaceTime respectively and have a vested interest in fragmentation.
I'm running the Aurora build (v38) and no. That could be just debian testing, of course. :) But *I think* I have all the relevant codecs installed.
MSE & H.264 is in red on https://www.youtube.com/html5
I might wait for a kernel and xorg update - intel has native VP8 support for their Bay Trail Atom chips. http://www.phoronix.com/scan.p...
You say bloat, I say functionality.
Let's see there's skype (that requires installing a closed source binary from the evil empire), FaceTime (that only works on Apple hardware), Hangouts (that requires a Google account, and yes there are still people on the planet...) Other technologies exist but those are the most Grandma-friendly.
Videoconferencing from any device on the planet without installing any special software is bloat?
Intel did license Transmeta's patents, if only to keep an iron in the fire. According to wikipedia, Transmeta at the time had code morphing working supposedly utilizing lower power but slower in terms of performance relative to clock speed. Now the balance has switched from the Mhz wars to all-day battery life on fanless machines. In competing with ARM, sacrificing a bit of performance for power consumption might be a winner.
I dunno much about Mill but if you read their whitepaper(s), it *sounds* revolutionary in venture capitalist speak.
And for the Russian chip, they have their own native ISA but emulate x86, which some have been saying is a millstone but required for binary compatibility.
I'm not having a go at the folks at Intel, clever blokes than me... They did try producing a revolutonary new platform as a successor to x86 - but the Itanic proved less than successful.
One wonders whether if they reach 'the limits of silicon' whether implementing optimization techniques in hardware will be the next iteration.
e.g. VLIW inspired designs such as Transmeta Crusoe, Elbrus 2000 or Mill CPU.
Quark was Ferengi, not Klingon.
Ziva David is still hot though, right?
...in Tehran or Pyongyang.
I mean it's the only way to guarantee your kids won't be accessing undesirable material, right?
RMS in Cuba
http://slashdot.org/story/07/0...
Well since I posted the Nim page has been created!
Whether it stays, we'll see.
Our dollar has crashed, so bare in mind that $AU28 is now $US21.78 :)
A million dollars wouldn't buy you much, sadly. Sydney, where many of the senior government politicians hail from, has one of the most overvalued property markets in the world.
Costa Rica, eh? I was thinking Chile or Uruguay...
It's not notable because it doesn't have its own wikipedia page - it doesn't have a wikipedia page because it's not notable.
Every time Jimmy Wales begs for a donation I cite shit like this. Small minded editors with way too much time on their hands who delete stuff for the sake of their own egos.
The people's encyclopedia it ain't.
Seems unlikely - they'd all be in their late 80s and 90s by now, surely NASA has a retirement age?
In any case according to the movie I saw, Iron Sky, they were exiled to a base on the far side of the moon.
Free as in you have to buy a phone first? :)
Or free as in you can download a disk image and deploy it to your phone's virtualization platform?
Linus missed the knuth converge to pi opportunity.
Failing that, a 6 digit hex string is how nature intended it. One can then plot users graphically by version number.
If you ever run past 256 major versions, there's always the alpha channel. :)
Detroit lost its seoul a few years ago.
Detroit Rock City!
Perhaps climate change is real and we should be traveling by train instead of flying to, y'know, save the planet.
sure but only 1GB of RAM, which would appear not to be configurable.
NB: I'm not expecting Core i7 performance nor Windows compatibility.
I recently replaced a noisy home desktop with a fanless Intel NUC - which based on energy usage, should save me around $AU65 a year on power bills, with a payback within Intel's 3 warranty, assuming I don't trade-in for the latest NUC or Brix in the meantime. (NB, I'm not a fan of laptops, having gone through 3 in 6 years - broken screen connectors and power supplies plus preferring full size keyboards and multi-monitors)
Some have mentioned lack of ethernet - thus requiring a usb dongle for office use.
So I guess what i'm asking is, where is the octo-core ARM box with user upgradeable RAM to challenge Intel NUC and Gigabyte Brix for the femto-pc market?