When the microwave was invented was it chaos? Or was it someone wanted a quicker way to cook? The tools to do the same things already existed but weren't as easy. Where is the chaos in that?
When designing something it can be both art and architecture. Look at buildings. Many are very artistically done but have great architecture to them. Look at the designs for the new world trade center building. To be the tallest building in the world there is a great amount of detail to the architecture but it is a very beautiful design that is artistically done.
It really depends on what you are trying to create. If you want to create strictly art then maybe chaos drives teh creative process but much of the creative process is due to there being something needed to be created. Like something an engineer creates. An engineers creating something has little to do with Chaos and a lot to do with structure.
" Well, maybe for the few true geniuses out there. But for most hackers it's merely a skill, maybe a craft at most."
Is it really more of a skill?? The coding itself may be a skill but the way you do it isn't. Sure maybe for your average joe who knows little but for your hacker the way you code can be art. It's your own style and flavor. I guess the way you code could be considered art. Just like writing poetry.
I would say the difference is the level of detail to the paynes. Comic books are basic and tell a basic story. Graphic novels have an immense amount of more important detail to see. Every little thing in the payne means something and is important. It's much deaper.
After learning that I went back and reread watchmen and found that to be very true. Look at the time on the wall, look at the little things in the paynes and you will see a lot more to the story.
If we can control the machines, can someone else come back through the machine an control me??? Could I be hacked??? Would I have to have a firewall in my head???
"If you stop paying, do you lose the rights to the music you downloaded?"
Well if you canceled your service then they wouldn't know wether you had the music still or not. If they came after you and said you still had it then there would be an invasion of privacy if they knew for a fact. If they just came after figureing you would have kept it then that would not only deter anyone from using the service but also would have legal ramifications for going after someone like that.
M$ is doing great PR to the masses. They know what they are saying and why. But, the masses don't know the whole story.
The "truth" about them isn't going out to the masses. So, what M$ says is all that is seen by the masses so they by it.
It's like say in politics. Say there was one party that did 90% of the talking. The other 10% isn't see that often so your average joe believes the larger 90% of the info.
"deliberately leaving old OS's insecure to force upgrades to me."
This isn't a deliberate thing. Not all old software is supported. If Linux 2.2.XX had security holes they would say upgrade. There aren't new fixes being written. If there was an old version of Lotus Notes that had a security hole, they would say upgrade. This isn't unusual or M$ forcing on people.
If a politician said something like this it would get torn apart by the media. If a scientist said something he would loose his credibility and there would be articles written to counter this in major publications. Why does that not happen with M$??? It's almost like they are "above the law" and what thsy say happens. Kind of like when God speaks.
" How long before the US government starts to notice how much foreign countries are saving with OSS?"
Typically the US Government is behind the rest of the world in adoption of this kind of tech. So, I would say give it 5 to 10 years after the rest of the world starts to make a serious move towards it. That 5 to 10 years would hold with how they are with other tech programs.
M$ is not the dominant controller of the email market. Most email comes and goes from nonmicrosoft systems. They don't have the leverage controll here. In this case a system they may not want to use could actually be pushed on them.
I do believe this is one area we have to really keep an on eye on M$ in. Do they really want to stop the spam or is it just PR. They have the browser that doesn't block pop ups and on a default install of windows Ad-Aware will find things it considers an issue right after the default install.
This may just be a PR issue to show people they are pushing for it. When they implement something like this will they put their own hooks in it to allow what they want???
M$ really needs to be kept an eye on if they do this.
Too bad they can't track how much of their beer I have bought. I almost wonder how much of it I drank in college. Had to average out at about 2 cases a week. But that would be a neat little stat to get.
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"it is making a "stable" state out of chaos"
When the microwave was invented was it chaos? Or was it someone wanted a quicker way to cook? The tools to do the same things already existed but weren't as easy. Where is the chaos in that?
"it's more like architecture:"
When designing something it can be both art and architecture. Look at buildings. Many are very artistically done but have great architecture to them. Look at the designs for the new world trade center building. To be the tallest building in the world there is a great amount of detail to the architecture but it is a very beautiful design that is artistically done.
"Chaos is what drives the creative process"
It really depends on what you are trying to create. If you want to create strictly art then maybe chaos drives teh creative process but much of the creative process is due to there being something needed to be created. Like something an engineer creates. An engineers creating something has little to do with Chaos and a lot to do with structure.
" Well, maybe for the few true geniuses out there. But for most hackers it's merely a skill, maybe a craft at most."
Is it really more of a skill?? The coding itself may be a skill but the way you do it isn't. Sure maybe for your average joe who knows little but for your hacker the way you code can be art. It's your own style and flavor. I guess the way you code could be considered art. Just like writing poetry.
I would say the difference is the level of detail to the paynes. Comic books are basic and tell a basic story. Graphic novels have an immense amount of more important detail to see. Every little thing in the payne means something and is important. It's much deaper.
After learning that I went back and reread watchmen and found that to be very true. Look at the time on the wall, look at the little things in the paynes and you will see a lot more to the story.
Could this be the first step to really having a 6 Million Dollar man??
The people where I worked put a virus out there that made us all like our jobs. Mental Note: Don't use M$ control implant.
If we all were able to RTFA just with a thought not even yahoo could handle the /. effect.
So, the average person thinks of sex like every 4 seconds. The traffic on one of these brain networks would have more porn than the internet.
"but if you tried to walk with 95% accuracy"
95% is better than me and my friends after a night out onthe town and we make it home ok. 95% is pretty good betting odds, too.
If we can control the machines, can someone else come back through the machine an control me??? Could I be hacked??? Would I have to have a firewall in my head???
I was wondering why there so few posts this long after the post. Then I realized that most of the /.ers are actually reading this article.
"If you stop paying, do you lose the rights to the music you downloaded?"
Well if you canceled your service then they wouldn't know wether you had the music still or not. If they came after you and said you still had it then there would be an invasion of privacy if they knew for a fact. If they just came after figureing you would have kept it then that would not only deter anyone from using the service but also would have legal ramifications for going after someone like that.
Do the artists own the rights to their music??? Many times not. So, the person getting paid is the owner of the rights being the Label.
"If you stop paying, do you lose the rights to the music you downloaded?"
From what I read of the article there was no talk of DRM so you could keep the music. Just depends on the format the music is in that you downloaded.
Will it really be the musicians getting paid or the Labels?? If it's like CDs than it will be mostly the labels making the money.
M$ is doing great PR to the masses. They know what they are saying and why. But, the masses don't know the whole story.
The "truth" about them isn't going out to the masses. So, what M$ says is all that is seen by the masses so they by it.
It's like say in politics. Say there was one party that did 90% of the talking. The other 10% isn't see that often so your average joe believes the larger 90% of the info.
"deliberately leaving old OS's insecure to force upgrades to me."
This isn't a deliberate thing. Not all old software is supported. If Linux 2.2.XX had security holes they would say upgrade. There aren't new fixes being written. If there was an old version of Lotus Notes that had a security hole, they would say upgrade. This isn't unusual or M$ forcing on people.
If a politician said something like this it would get torn apart by the media. If a scientist said something he would loose his credibility and there would be articles written to counter this in major publications. Why does that not happen with M$??? It's almost like they are "above the law" and what thsy say happens. Kind of like when God speaks.
The Italians I know use thise same tactic with women.
They tell the women they are with how much they love and adore them while they are working a deal with some other woman.
" How long before the US government starts to notice how much foreign countries are saving with OSS?"
Typically the US Government is behind the rest of the world in adoption of this kind of tech. So, I would say give it 5 to 10 years after the rest of the world starts to make a serious move towards it. That 5 to 10 years would hold with how they are with other tech programs.
"Those of Microsoft know the esteem that we have for they"
"The Common one of Rome ahead slowly towards Linux"
Can you move from M$ to Linux and still kiss M$ ass in the same article??? For the first time I really noticed it in an article.
M$ is not the dominant controller of the email market. Most email comes and goes from nonmicrosoft systems. They don't have the leverage controll here. In this case a system they may not want to use could actually be pushed on them.
I do believe this is one area we have to really keep an on eye on M$ in. Do they really want to stop the spam or is it just PR. They have the browser that doesn't block pop ups and on a default install of windows Ad-Aware will find things it considers an issue right after the default install.
This may just be a PR issue to show people they are pushing for it. When they implement something like this will they put their own hooks in it to allow what they want???
M$ really needs to be kept an eye on if they do this.
Too bad they can't track how much of their beer I have bought. I almost wonder how much of it I drank in college. Had to average out at about 2 cases a week. But that would be a neat little stat to get.