It also said that it doesn't depend on the host OS, which would preclude software installation of any kind.
Or that it includes cross platform versions of the client software. Perhaps a java VNC client that runs when you plug in the device making your MPS screen pop up on the host monitor?
This wouldn't require the host computer to reboot or the MPS to have driver support for the hardware on the host machine.
How exactly does this do the job better than a Knoppix CD and VNC/X over SSH/rdesktop?
It's not slow and unresponsive preventing you from working?
I'm not knocking Knoppix or VNC specifically, but my experience with Terminal Services has always shown them to be nothing at all like using an actual computer and everything but the LAN environment. If the host you connect to is on the same LAN as you, great, it's just like your sitting there.
However, if you're using just about anything connected over the internet screen refresh time is going to kill your productivity and require you wait between mouse clicks. I'd rather carry my nice, responsive computer with me, even if it means I must BYODKM using this, albeit, strange method. Hell, I could plug into an old USB enabled Pentium Pro and it wouldn't be any different than plugging into a 3.6Ghz Pentium 4.
And it looks like it wants to more or less shut down the host PC. It's be more interesting if it was accessible via a terminal services, VNC or X window itself.
I think it does use a terminal services client... most likely VNC. Look at the quote from the article below: By using a Terminal Server, an application that is available ob virtually any platform, Realm's technology does not depend on the operating system of the host system, but rather takes over the components it needs for data entry.
Earlier in the article they said something like "Plug it into the USB port and it hibernates the host PC" or something similar. I have a strong feeling that was simply colorful language and does not literaly mean it sends the other PC into hibernate mode. If it did that it would have to: 1) Boot the host off an image stored on the MPS that allows the host PC to be used as a hardware interface. 2) Hope the host graphics and network systems are supported by this image. 3) Hope the host was using DHCP, cause you don't know their network settings anymore.
Where as if the Host PC was left running in Windows, Linux, or MacOS (as the article seems to suggest) plugging in the MPS would: 1) Pop up a new drive on the system, such as plugging in a USB Keychain drive would. 2) Autoload the appropriate VNC client for the host OS auto configured to log into the MPS. 3) Autoload software appropriate for the OS to gain bridged network access using the existing configured network settings.
I think it's far more probable that that the host PC is continusouly running, but there's a Terminal Services Client of sorts running always on top so you simply don't see the client OS. All you see is your MPS.
Microsoft is at least realistic (in current versions of Windows, at least) to realise that most people don't want the performance-sucking eye candy and lets you turn it off.
You mean that most Slashdot readers don't want the perfromance-sucking eye candy and want to turn them off.
Most people probably appreciate the eye candy and are completely unaware of the fact that it is the cause of the poor performance they may complain about (should they notice it).
by making sure that the 3D hardware is continually tied up running the particle engine floating around the talking paper clip or Enlightenment logo or whatever.
I realy REALLY highly doubt that a logo or annoying paperclip, regardless of how 3d it's rendered is going to tie up the graphics card.
I do however, agree with the bulk of what you're stating. I think that would be great if the OS COULD utilize the graphics card to do more, whether it be off-loading things currently done by the CPU or enhancing the user experience by doing things that weren't possible on a lower end graphics card.
However, like all of the "look enhancing" features of windows, I would greatly appreciate the ability to turn it off and run on crappy Intel Extreme Graphics should I need to.
That is, of course, unless Microsoft is moving towards something like Sun's experimental Project Looking Glass3D Desktop. Were that the case, then I would probably be accepting of a higher end graphics card requirement as I would, in fact, be working more efficiently, rather than just oogling how pretty the menus look.
And how often would you expect to be on a switch-free LAN? Aren't most (ethernet) networks (even two host home networks) done with switches? The only exception I can think of is WiFi, and I'd say the odds of those having public routable IPs are low.
That's exactly the problem. At the university I attend, we're on a 10MB ethernet network directly attached to smart hubs. The backend uses 100Mbit switches and routers, but the students (dorms, labs, etc) are still only on smart hubs. Something like this could be used on our network to avoid detection by the school (perhaps as a layer between WASTE and the network) but has very little application to most networks or even the internet as a whole where you cannot see your neighbors traffic, which is why it'll probably never be implimented.
I mean, while these seem like obviously dumb business moves to most of the/. crowd, I wonder if since they are targeting a much more mainstream audience, they are in fact making more money than Tech TV used to. Is viewership in fact up? Perhaps someone with more time than me can post their research findings on this.
I can't imagine viewership is up. Even among non-slashdot reading peers of mine, my gaming friends (those G4 is apparently targeting) aren't watching the channel. Most complain about how none of the new games are given any decent reviews. Mostly they show shareware garbage that few people are going to care about.
I don't get or watch the channel (haven't since it got put on digital cable) so I don't really have an opinion of my own.
You could also get a VGA to Composite Video adapter. Then you'd just need a video capture box for your laptop. Both can be had for about $100 or less a piece and do the same as the VGA-USB, albeit with a little more hardware, but for cheaper.
If your laptop has Composite Video capture already, then you don't need to get a USB or PCMCIA capture card..
It is rack mounted, but it would be easier than to carry a monitor, keyboard, and KVM seperately.
The only thing that that is lacking from the request is that it is not battery powered and thus requires a power outlet, however since it's all in one nice unit that could be carried from site to site if your customer doesn't have one already installed. I have a feeling it's a little heavier than a laptop, but I'm sure it's still lighter than a CRT monitor. You could probably even put it in a small portfolio case and almost like a laptop shoulder bag.
It's all about market penetration
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Now they are going further away from the right thing. Getting rid of more shows, and adding lame ones.
G4 never intended to carry the TechTV shows. As an astute commenter correctly predicted in response to the/. article Inside TechTV all G4 wanted was to get their channel aired on more cable networks. They bought TechTV for the market penetration it had spent years acquiring it and for nothing else.
I was wondering more how port forwarding would work. Most games on the market require that you forward ports for them to work correctly. Would you need to forward the ports you need from every single router that you're stealing a wireless signal from, or is there some way to force/predict which interface the game will operate on? You could then play the game over 1 wireless internet connection and run a download in the background over the other and not have to worry about interference.
You'd think that if 2% of the calls are monitored for quality control purposes... then QC would actually improve in the long run. In my experience, phone support/service is generally about the same (or less) quality as it was many years ago.
With the turn over rate call centers experience, it's gonna take a lot more than monitoring just 2% of the calls to improve service in the long run.
I wasn't sure about the truth the parent's statement, until I found this and many other sources that backed him up. Still not sure what my local state requires, but I'm sure I'll find that out shortly.
when you boost signal? Net-net, it';s the same amount of noise.
I've tried both installing Sveasoft on my WRT54G one of those seperate signal boosters from Linksys. In both cases this is what I noticed.
I didn't increase any range on my network. Ok, maybe a few feet, but it seemed the signal still dropped at about the same spot.
Connections that were "weak" or "poor" were suddenly "good" or "excellent".
Using the Sveasoft method I was able to increase the signal even more. Although the firmware allows a setting of over 200 (with something like 21 as the default power) there was a limit as to how high you could set it before the signal to noise ratio (as observed through NetStumbler) became a problem and I was no longer able to connect, even from areas that were excellent before I began boosting the signal.
I'm not sure, but I would assume that part of the circuitry was heating up degrading the signal as the power was increased.
Radio shack sells crimpless connectors. (Qwik Connectos I think they call them.) I'm sure they don't work as well as crimped connectors, but I've used them on temporary patch cables before without problems.
3) Set up one WAP as the main station and configure everyone else as a repeater
Unfortunately, this means than people need to either return routers and buy WAPs or they need to install updated firmwares on their WRT's to enable WDS.
Having just gotten their new wireless router for XMas, they might put up a bit of a fight, but hopefully the cheaper monthly bills can woo them over.
BTW - Microwaving water is *not* a good idea. Pockets of the liquid can become superheated, and leap into and scald your face without any prior warning
How can I make my oat meal if I can't heat the water??
But seriously, haven't you ever boiled water in the microwave? It bubles, like water boiling on the stove. It doesn't explode
Install a computer that connects to many open access points, and get more than 10Mbps overall. Hopefully you can find enough (up to six non-overrlapping) to get 18Mbps or more.
You could use NAT32 if you insist on using windows to make this work.
Question: Does anyone know what happens with port forwarding in situations like this? Can one effectively play an online game through a series of linked cable modems?
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It also said that it doesn't depend on the host OS, which would preclude software installation of any kind.
Or that it includes cross platform versions of the client software. Perhaps a java VNC client that runs when you plug in the device making your MPS screen pop up on the host monitor?
This wouldn't require the host computer to reboot or the MPS to have driver support for the hardware on the host machine.
How exactly does this do the job better than a Knoppix CD and VNC/X over SSH/rdesktop?
It's not slow and unresponsive preventing you from working?
I'm not knocking Knoppix or VNC specifically, but my experience with Terminal Services has always shown them to be nothing at all like using an actual computer and everything but the LAN environment. If the host you connect to is on the same LAN as you, great, it's just like your sitting there.
However, if you're using just about anything connected over the internet screen refresh time is going to kill your productivity and require you wait between mouse clicks. I'd rather carry my nice, responsive computer with me, even if it means I must BYODKM using this, albeit, strange method. Hell, I could plug into an old USB enabled Pentium Pro and it wouldn't be any different than plugging into a 3.6Ghz Pentium 4.
And it looks like it wants to more or less shut down the host PC. It's be more interesting if it was accessible via a terminal services, VNC or X window itself.
I think it does use a terminal services client... most likely VNC. Look at the quote from the article below:
By using a Terminal Server, an application that is available ob virtually any platform, Realm's technology does not depend on the operating system of the host system, but rather takes over the components it needs for data entry.
Earlier in the article they said something like "Plug it into the USB port and it hibernates the host PC" or something similar. I have a strong feeling that was simply colorful language and does not literaly mean it sends the other PC into hibernate mode. If it did that it would have to:
1) Boot the host off an image stored on the MPS that allows the host PC to be used as a hardware interface.
2) Hope the host graphics and network systems are supported by this image.
3) Hope the host was using DHCP, cause you don't know their network settings anymore.
Where as if the Host PC was left running in Windows, Linux, or MacOS (as the article seems to suggest) plugging in the MPS would:
1) Pop up a new drive on the system, such as plugging in a USB Keychain drive would.
2) Autoload the appropriate VNC client for the host OS auto configured to log into the MPS.
3) Autoload software appropriate for the OS to gain bridged network access using the existing configured network settings.
I think it's far more probable that that the host PC is continusouly running, but there's a Terminal Services Client of sorts running always on top so you simply don't see the client OS. All you see is your MPS.
Microsoft is at least realistic (in current versions of Windows, at least) to realise that most people don't want the performance-sucking eye candy and lets you turn it off.
You mean that most Slashdot readers don't want the perfromance-sucking eye candy and want to turn them off.
Most people probably appreciate the eye candy and are completely unaware of the fact that it is the cause of the poor performance they may complain about (should they notice it).
by making sure that the 3D hardware is continually tied up running the particle engine floating around the talking paper clip or Enlightenment logo or whatever.
I realy REALLY highly doubt that a logo or annoying paperclip, regardless of how 3d it's rendered is going to tie up the graphics card.
I do however, agree with the bulk of what you're stating. I think that would be great if the OS COULD utilize the graphics card to do more, whether it be off-loading things currently done by the CPU or enhancing the user experience by doing things that weren't possible on a lower end graphics card.
However, like all of the "look enhancing" features of windows, I would greatly appreciate the ability to turn it off and run on crappy Intel Extreme Graphics should I need to.
That is, of course, unless Microsoft is moving towards something like Sun's experimental Project Looking Glass 3D Desktop. Were that the case, then I would probably be accepting of a higher end graphics card requirement as I would, in fact, be working more efficiently, rather than just oogling how pretty the menus look.
And how often would you expect to be on a switch-free LAN? Aren't most (ethernet) networks (even two host home networks) done with switches? The only exception I can think of is WiFi, and I'd say the odds of those having public routable IPs are low.
That's exactly the problem. At the university I attend, we're on a 10MB ethernet network directly attached to smart hubs. The backend uses 100Mbit switches and routers, but the students (dorms, labs, etc) are still only on smart hubs. Something like this could be used on our network to avoid detection by the school (perhaps as a layer between WASTE and the network) but has very little application to most networks or even the internet as a whole where you cannot see your neighbors traffic, which is why it'll probably never be implimented.
A keyboard with the keys arranged alphabetically?
Great idea... phfffftt!
Almost as good an idea as the pocket size displays.
I mean, while these seem like obviously dumb business moves to most of the /. crowd, I wonder if since they are targeting a much more mainstream audience, they are in fact making more money than Tech TV used to. Is viewership in fact up? Perhaps someone with more time than me can post their research findings on this.
I can't imagine viewership is up. Even among non-slashdot reading peers of mine, my gaming friends (those G4 is apparently targeting) aren't watching the channel. Most complain about how none of the new games are given any decent reviews. Mostly they show shareware garbage that few people are going to care about.
I don't get or watch the channel (haven't since it got put on digital cable) so I don't really have an opinion of my own.
You could also get a VGA to Composite Video adapter. Then you'd just need a video capture box for your laptop. Both can be had for about $100 or less a piece and do the same as the VGA-USB, albeit with a little more hardware, but for cheaper.
If your laptop has Composite Video capture already, then you don't need to get a USB or PCMCIA capture card..
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I've been using RemotelyAnywhere [remotelyanywhere.com] on my windows machines
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A PC Anywhere or Linux equivalent wouldn't work since they would require the headless system to already have an installed OS.
Is something like this what you are looking for?
It is rack mounted, but it would be easier than to carry a monitor, keyboard, and KVM seperately.
The only thing that that is lacking from the request is that it is not battery powered and thus requires a power outlet, however since it's all in one nice unit that could be carried from site to site if your customer doesn't have one already installed. I have a feeling it's a little heavier than a laptop, but I'm sure it's still lighter than a CRT monitor. You could probably even put it in a small portfolio case and almost like a laptop shoulder bag.
Now they are going further away from the right thing. Getting rid of more shows, and adding lame ones.
/. article Inside TechTV all G4 wanted was to get their channel aired on more cable networks. They bought TechTV for the market penetration it had spent years acquiring it and for nothing else.
G4 never intended to carry the TechTV shows. As an astute commenter correctly predicted in response to the
I was wondering more how port forwarding would work. Most games on the market require that you forward ports for them to work correctly. Would you need to forward the ports you need from every single router that you're stealing a wireless signal from, or is there some way to force/predict which interface the game will operate on? You could then play the game over 1 wireless internet connection and run a download in the background over the other and not have to worry about interference.
Who cares, I use XP Pro.
I currently run WRT54G at 58 mw without an external amp and no problems. Anything higher and it starts to be a problem
Illinois is a two party consent state. You can record, but you have to ask if it's ok first. Oh, and they have to say yes.
Not letting them know would be considered eaves dropping and is what constitutes a violatation of the "eaves dropping" law.
You'd think that if 2% of the calls are monitored for quality control purposes... then QC would actually improve in the long run. In my experience, phone support/service is generally about the same (or less) quality as it was many years ago.
With the turn over rate call centers experience, it's gonna take a lot more than monitoring just 2% of the calls to improve service in the long run.
I wasn't sure about the truth the parent's statement, until I found this and many other sources that backed him up. Still not sure what my local state requires, but I'm sure I'll find that out shortly.
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At What point during sex do you decide to call Tech Support?
"If your having difficulty transitioning from foreplay, press 4 now."
when you boost signal? Net-net, it';s the same amount of noise.
I've tried both installing Sveasoft on my WRT54G one of those seperate signal boosters from Linksys. In both cases this is what I noticed.
I didn't increase any range on my network. Ok, maybe a few feet, but it seemed the signal still dropped at about the same spot.
Connections that were "weak" or "poor" were suddenly "good" or "excellent".
Using the Sveasoft method I was able to increase the signal even more. Although the firmware allows a setting of over 200 (with something like 21 as the default power) there was a limit as to how high you could set it before the signal to noise ratio (as observed through NetStumbler) became a problem and I was no longer able to connect, even from areas that were excellent before I began boosting the signal.
I'm not sure, but I would assume that part of the circuitry was heating up degrading the signal as the power was increased.
Most obviously you need a crimp tool,
Radio shack sells crimpless connectors. (Qwik Connectos I think they call them.) I'm sure they don't work as well as crimped connectors, but I've used them on temporary patch cables before without problems.
If you can't get it to work right beside each other, something is broke. Either your configuration or your hardware is broken.
No, probably nothing is broken. It's just encountering interference. This is becomming more and more of a problem as more people switch to wireless.
3) Set up one WAP as the main station and configure everyone else as a repeater
Unfortunately, this means than people need to either return routers and buy WAPs or they need to install updated firmwares on their WRT's to enable WDS.
Having just gotten their new wireless router for XMas, they might put up a bit of a fight, but hopefully the cheaper monthly bills can woo them over.
Great idea, though.
BTW - Microwaving water is *not* a good idea. Pockets of the liquid can become superheated, and leap into and scald your face without any prior warning
How can I make my oat meal if I can't heat the water??
But seriously, haven't you ever boiled water in the microwave? It bubles, like water boiling on the stove. It doesn't explode
Install a computer that connects to many open access points, and get more than 10Mbps overall. Hopefully you can find enough (up to six non-overrlapping) to get 18Mbps or more.
You could use NAT32 if you insist on using windows to make this work.
Question: Does anyone know what happens with port forwarding in situations like this? Can one effectively play an online game through a series of linked cable modems?