Wouldn't that violate the freedom to move across borders that you suggested was a good thing? I mean conditional on something means those not doing so will be barred.
However, I think the conditional part is largely accepted already. Most legal immigrants do so or provide some sort of expertise. Not too many people object to legal immigration outside of those who cannot find work and see H1B visa candidates filling jobs they applied for. Most of the objection is illegal immigration. Most of the objections is to borders that cannot even keep foreign children from wondering over them.
Is it moral to compare something done 200+ years ago to something happening today? It's like putting you in prison because your great, great grandfather rapes a slave and saying it's the same thing.
Here is the problem with illegals. We have laws on the books that the federal government- which is constitutionally charged with enforcing the laws, protecting the country, establishing uniformed rules for naturalization, and after 1808, placing limits on the migration or importation of people into the country- seems to not care about but are more than willing to spy on every US citizen in direct contradiction to the bill of rights. We have a federal government that makes shit up as it goes, picks and chooses what laws to enforce and what not to enforce and in some situation, even makes up laws without congress even acting. We have a federal government that wants to give amnesty to these law violators sneaking across the border because they somehow managed to evade capture and deportation for a number of years. We have a federal government who has ignored the laws on immigration and actually encouraged children to place themselves in serious risk of harm to enter the country with what appears to them to be automatic citizenship.
People that are upset with illegals are mostly venting their frustration with the federal government's failure to follow the law. But I will say that if there is an equivalence, at least we are not killing the illegals like the previously existing nations and people tried to do to us. Is your moral equivalence going to allow for that also? I would hope not and think that alone makes your statement sound silly.
Be aware that, NSLs and FISA request are the same thing, go figure, so by releasing the number of NSLs they are at the same time hiding the number of FISA request which could be any number
Actually, no they are not. If you add the FISA requests, it jumps by almost 2000 more. The FISA requests represented there are the warrantless "probable cause" uses where a FISA warrant is not gotten first. FISA is typically handled outside the FBI which is what the 19,000 number is supposed to represent.
NSL letters are not secret court orders. They are extrajudicial orders for records information kept by businesses. The FISA orders can actually do more then that and actually intercept communications but only for a limited time before a FISA warrant is needed and a FISA warrant is needed before the information is supposed to be legally used in a case. You can find more about the FISA orders issues with it's annual reports to congress. Just select the reports then the year.
It should be noted that if no US person is involved or likely to be involved, no warrant is actually needed in the surveillance according to FISA. So the numbers should only reflect where it is possible that a US citizen is somehow part of the target for the FISA order.
Well, it is the FBI and not the NSA. The NSA just spies on everyone, the FBI has to actually ink some words to a piece of paper. At least they can skip the court process so you will remain safe and not free.
Don't bitch. This is that glorious liberal socialism everyone loves. Stop being a racist. I think there is something else I'm supposed to throw in there too but I forget because I was drunk when they told me the talking points. Oh yea, stop drinking tea or something like that.
Just get used to it. There is not anything you can do to change it without taking freedom away from people.
There are a lot of things you are not aware of/. Now just sit down, shut up, and you might find some of it out.
Seriously, the voices might not be as loud but they are still there. Yours is still there. Maybe you should ignore my advice and Larry Page should take it to heart?
I don't think you caught the " then pretend they didn't search your phone" part.
Imagine this, A recent ex of yours was going around showing everyone your pet rock that you keep by your bed in order to ward off tiger attacks claiming she took it to piss you off. Your buddy sees this and texts you about it. You reply, that bitch is going to get it when I find her. Well, your ex is a part time crack whore looking for a good time, gets connected to the wrong guy and gets herself killed. You were at work when it happened but clocked out an hour or so after. The coronor's report list the time of death in a window that technically would have allowed you to do the killing. You get pulled over with another friend who has some dope on them. They arrest the entire lot of you, realize they want to question you about your ex's murder, go through your phone and see that you wrote a text indicating violence. They don't say anything, but go after your other friend and ask him about it. They ask if they can look at his phone, he says I have nothing to hide and boom, they see the text you sent.
Now you are sitting in county lockup, charged with murdering your ex, and all the cops will admit to is they found the text in a legal search of another phone. What they can't legally do and what they will do might not be the same thing. Ever heard of an anonymous tip? All the need to do is have another officer call in on a line that is monitored and anonymous is in the house. It doesn't matter what rights you have or what the cops are allowed to do. The enforcers of the law will seldom enforce themselves. They are above the law for all intents and purposes.
I don't know about not real police. Ohio State campus police have been called out on man hunts before and will regularly assist the columbus pd in near by areas if asked to.
But they are or where lax when on campus. Something may have changed in 20 years though but i agree with what you said.
Police powers are granted or inherient to the political unit/subdivision and extended certain employees in specific circumstances. A college campus can have its own police force with the same powers as city police. The same is true with large hospitals and other complexes if the governing political authority allows it.
However, that makes it a public act and a public unit with public meaning of the government. I have not read the mass law on open records but in most stated i know of, they are included by default. It is not uncommon for cities to create the same type of corperTions for their transit authority, HUD outreach and implimentation and quite a few other things.
Skip the drivers altogether and make the modules run their own code. Have the OS offer an API similar to directX that can be expanded when the user installs an app from one of the stores.
Allow a direct com port access mode also for when this is not desired. The app can do what is neccesary.
I think the idea behind the technological fix behind everything stems from trying to get more out of less people. Of course there are ares stuff like this might be more than helpful. But on the whole i think you are right.
Don't bother with him, he's a troll anyways. Everyone knows everything is bigger in Texas and Obama Care will pay for the surgery if his life story is true.
BTW, how to you ask someone if they are from Texas? You don't, you listen for a short time and they will just tell you. Or you can look him up on these glasses.
I'm not sure spies would avoid this. These appear to be glasses I would actually not mind wearing. Outside of a brick on the side, they look like sunglasses with a safety lens over them. But they actually resemble a pair of glasses unlike Google's Glass.
Anyways, with a sufficient population having something similar, they could actually blend into the population with them.
I feel your pain there. I use dolphin which I think is a Safari clone or based on the same engine or something like that. Anyways, I had to set it to pretend to be a desktop browser to get Slashdot to appear correctly. I don't know if it was beta or what, I didn't stick around long enough to pay attention before switching it out. But there are stupid pages where ads don't size properly and crap like that so I guess if I happen to get the same beta issues on mine, I might have to stop browsing slashdot from it. 90% of my time here is from the phone.
Sorry still sounds like it's deriding the "fodder" (I'm going to assume that he doesn't actually mean for them to be eaten) and glorifying the cowards hiding behind them.
It is a horrible fact of wars fought throughout history but when you compel people to serve in the military, you end up with a lot of expendable lives. I'm not saying it is a good thing or a bad thing but it is a fact that it is and has been a strategy of fighting battles.
There has been no time where more people support Obamacare than not. It is universally disliked.
I was trying to allow some chance that something I didn't know about might have happened.
Everyone? Do you understand that this is what actually started the Tea Party? No, you don't. Well now you do.
I guess the sarcasm tags don't blink like they should. I was being facetious. The bail outs was one thing that united the American left and right in some cases. Originally, the Tea Party had many liberals in it also.
Nixon was impeached based on far far less than this.
I don't know who has been mis-teaching history but Nixon was never impeached. You are not the only one who gets that wrong, in fact it happens so often I think someone is trying to change history. The house never brought charges against him. They were talking about it but Nixon resigned making Ford President who pardoned Nixon as one of his first official acts.
Anyone who supports this behavior from the administration and the IRS is a supporter of tyranny.
I couldn't agree more but I do not think many people today understand what tyranny is or why it is not good. It's like saying gobstopper to them. Its sad...
I wonder how many people are disabling the footer with no script or something? And I would guess that the do not track stuff built into browsers as a work around for websites ignoring the do not track marker might be the problem with the nobeta=1 QS parameter.
Of course those are guesses but if you haven't looked into it, perhaps it might lead you somewhere productive. I disabled cookies altogether a while back and found most all of my web pages loaded differently and on some, I had to log in every time I clicked a link or it forgot I was already logged in. Now I just clear my browser cookies every so often and when opening new sites.
It's not even as complicated as that. You shoot a guy and hide the gun in a knot hole in an old Oak tree down the road. They here you tell someone where it is hidden and asking if it should be moved. They go and find it and make up the story of a kid was playing or a hunter saw a reflection of light and got curious to what was causing it. Now you are hit.
I think that is called parallel construction. It's how cops can pull someone over for doing 3 miles per hour over the speed limit or for a tail light being out (by their own hand at your last fuel stop) and find 2 kilos of crack inside a spare tire.
I didn't mean to sound as if I bought the idea that a US citizen waging war, aiding and abetting enemies, and getting killed right beside them needed due process before anything was done, I was explaining why a Citizen is more important than a Person to a lot of people when it comes to things like this and the US is involved.
Killing people is usually bad. Sometimes people just need killing. But a citizen, who is subject to US jurisdiction where ever they are, is constitutionally protected where a foreigner not in US jurisdiction is not. Morally, they are equal I guess. But when people get up in arms over the citizen being targeted by a drone strike, it's on a different level than a drone strike itself. That's all I was trying to say.
Lol.. Fighting in what you think is pointless wars is nothing but a distraction. The draft was brought up because some asshat declared that the military doesn't do anything for his freedom and went on to degrade the people serving. Defending our freedoms has no draft built in but you do not need a war to have a draft. Many European countries and quite a few others have or had until relatively recently, compulsory service. This means everyone was drafted in times of peace just in case it became un-peaceful. Don't confuse the war(s) with why a draft might happen. It's just one of many reasons why one might happen.
We're not truly 'the land of the free' until drafts are completely unconstitutional.
I don't think this current government would care if it was constitutional or not. They seem to not bother when passing other laws. You were correct, we need to take the government back. However, I'm not sure if we would agree on what exactly that means. We might though.
Well, we do know from lawsuits that the IRS requested and received donor information as well as shared that with apposing groups on at least one of the claims.
We also know that the IRS actually did create word lists and purposely stalled applications based on them. We know that from the Treasury Department Inspector General's investigation.
We also know that non tea party groups fell into that catagory and the IG report was basically only looking for Tea Party issues because that was what it was tasked to do.
The problem here is that people are concentrating on the tea party. Of course it hit them the hardest but it also hit others who had a constitutional right to get a message out. This message was obstructed by the IRS, whether it was a conservative or progressive one in what appears to be an illegal move. Of course the appears is more or less due to the person behind it taking the 5th and all her and 6 other key employee communications records (emails) disappearing. So do not focus on the Tea Party, focus on the government using the IRS to quite dissent which is a more accurate description of the conspiracy. It's just the tea party screaming bloody murder the loudest.
It is probably just a political scam anyways. It is like Hillary's rose law firm billing records that appeared on a coffe table in the residence after being missing for years. They were found just in time to strengthen the vast right wing condpiracy claim. Of course there was nothing incriminating in them.
I suspect the emails will be "recovered" close to an election and there will be no smoking gun or anything.
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Wouldn't that violate the freedom to move across borders that you suggested was a good thing? I mean conditional on something means those not doing so will be barred.
However, I think the conditional part is largely accepted already. Most legal immigrants do so or provide some sort of expertise. Not too many people object to legal immigration outside of those who cannot find work and see H1B visa candidates filling jobs they applied for. Most of the objection is illegal immigration. Most of the objections is to borders that cannot even keep foreign children from wondering over them.
Is it moral to compare something done 200+ years ago to something happening today? It's like putting you in prison because your great, great grandfather rapes a slave and saying it's the same thing.
Here is the problem with illegals. We have laws on the books that the federal government- which is constitutionally charged with enforcing the laws, protecting the country, establishing uniformed rules for naturalization, and after 1808, placing limits on the migration or importation of people into the country- seems to not care about but are more than willing to spy on every US citizen in direct contradiction to the bill of rights. We have a federal government that makes shit up as it goes, picks and chooses what laws to enforce and what not to enforce and in some situation, even makes up laws without congress even acting. We have a federal government that wants to give amnesty to these law violators sneaking across the border because they somehow managed to evade capture and deportation for a number of years. We have a federal government who has ignored the laws on immigration and actually encouraged children to place themselves in serious risk of harm to enter the country with what appears to them to be automatic citizenship.
People that are upset with illegals are mostly venting their frustration with the federal government's failure to follow the law. But I will say that if there is an equivalence, at least we are not killing the illegals like the previously existing nations and people tried to do to us. Is your moral equivalence going to allow for that also? I would hope not and think that alone makes your statement sound silly.
Actually, no they are not. If you add the FISA requests, it jumps by almost 2000 more. The FISA requests represented there are the warrantless "probable cause" uses where a FISA warrant is not gotten first. FISA is typically handled outside the FBI which is what the 19,000 number is supposed to represent.
http://icontherecord.tumblr.co...
NSL letters are not secret court orders. They are extrajudicial orders for records information kept by businesses. The FISA orders can actually do more then that and actually intercept communications but only for a limited time before a FISA warrant is needed and a FISA warrant is needed before the information is supposed to be legally used in a case. You can find more about the FISA orders issues with it's annual reports to congress. Just select the reports then the year.
http://fas.org/irp/agency/doj/...
It should be noted that if no US person is involved or likely to be involved, no warrant is actually needed in the surveillance according to FISA. So the numbers should only reflect where it is possible that a US citizen is somehow part of the target for the FISA order.
Well, it is the FBI and not the NSA. The NSA just spies on everyone, the FBI has to actually ink some words to a piece of paper. At least they can skip the court process so you will remain safe and not free.
Don't bitch. This is that glorious liberal socialism everyone loves. Stop being a racist. I think there is something else I'm supposed to throw in there too but I forget because I was drunk when they told me the talking points. Oh yea, stop drinking tea or something like that.
Just get used to it. There is not anything you can do to change it without taking freedom away from people.
There are a lot of things you are not aware of/. Now just sit down, shut up, and you might find some of it out.
Seriously, the voices might not be as loud but they are still there. Yours is still there. Maybe you should ignore my advice and Larry Page should take it to heart?
Supply and demand. If there are 10 unemployed programers, you can pay them all less than if there are only 2 unemployed programmers.
But yes, working them to the bone and being able to better deal with their off shored counter parts are the main reasons.
I don't think you caught the " then pretend they didn't search your phone" part.
Imagine this, A recent ex of yours was going around showing everyone your pet rock that you keep by your bed in order to ward off tiger attacks claiming she took it to piss you off. Your buddy sees this and texts you about it. You reply, that bitch is going to get it when I find her. Well, your ex is a part time crack whore looking for a good time, gets connected to the wrong guy and gets herself killed. You were at work when it happened but clocked out an hour or so after. The coronor's report list the time of death in a window that technically would have allowed you to do the killing. You get pulled over with another friend who has some dope on them. They arrest the entire lot of you, realize they want to question you about your ex's murder, go through your phone and see that you wrote a text indicating violence. They don't say anything, but go after your other friend and ask him about it. They ask if they can look at his phone, he says I have nothing to hide and boom, they see the text you sent.
Now you are sitting in county lockup, charged with murdering your ex, and all the cops will admit to is they found the text in a legal search of another phone. What they can't legally do and what they will do might not be the same thing. Ever heard of an anonymous tip? All the need to do is have another officer call in on a line that is monitored and anonymous is in the house. It doesn't matter what rights you have or what the cops are allowed to do. The enforcers of the law will seldom enforce themselves. They are above the law for all intents and purposes.
I don't know about not real police. Ohio State campus police have been called out on man hunts before and will regularly assist the columbus pd in near by areas if asked to.
But they are or where lax when on campus. Something may have changed in 20 years though but i agree with what you said.
Police powers are granted or inherient to the political unit/subdivision and extended certain employees in specific circumstances. A college campus can have its own police force with the same powers as city police. The same is true with large hospitals and other complexes if the governing political authority allows it.
However, that makes it a public act and a public unit with public meaning of the government. I have not read the mass law on open records but in most stated i know of, they are included by default. It is not uncommon for cities to create the same type of corperTions for their transit authority, HUD outreach and implimentation and quite a few other things.
Sue? Where is the law that gives them criminal immunity and how is it remotely constitutional?
If they are a private company, they should be subject to the same laws every other company and citizen or person is subject to.
Skip the drivers altogether and make the modules run their own code. Have the OS offer an API similar to directX that can be expanded when the user installs an app from one of the stores.
Allow a direct com port access mode also for when this is not desired. The app can do what is neccesary.
I think the idea behind the technological fix behind everything stems from trying to get more out of less people. Of course there are ares stuff like this might be more than helpful. But on the whole i think you are right.
Don't bother with him, he's a troll anyways. Everyone knows everything is bigger in Texas and Obama Care will pay for the surgery if his life story is true.
BTW, how to you ask someone if they are from Texas? You don't, you listen for a short time and they will just tell you. Or you can look him up on these glasses.
I'm not sure spies would avoid this. These appear to be glasses I would actually not mind wearing. Outside of a brick on the side, they look like sunglasses with a safety lens over them. But they actually resemble a pair of glasses unlike Google's Glass.
Anyways, with a sufficient population having something similar, they could actually blend into the population with them.
I feel your pain there. I use dolphin which I think is a Safari clone or based on the same engine or something like that. Anyways, I had to set it to pretend to be a desktop browser to get Slashdot to appear correctly. I don't know if it was beta or what, I didn't stick around long enough to pay attention before switching it out. But there are stupid pages where ads don't size properly and crap like that so I guess if I happen to get the same beta issues on mine, I might have to stop browsing slashdot from it. 90% of my time here is from the phone.
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix...
I think that guy tested your idea. Doesn't look like it worked too well.
Cannon fodder is an informal, derogatory term for combatants who are regarded or treated as expendable in the face of enemy fire.
It is a horrible fact of wars fought throughout history but when you compel people to serve in the military, you end up with a lot of expendable lives. I'm not saying it is a good thing or a bad thing but it is a fact that it is and has been a strategy of fighting battles.
I was trying to allow some chance that something I didn't know about might have happened.
I guess the sarcasm tags don't blink like they should. I was being facetious. The bail outs was one thing that united the American left and right in some cases. Originally, the Tea Party had many liberals in it also.
I don't know who has been mis-teaching history but Nixon was never impeached. You are not the only one who gets that wrong, in fact it happens so often I think someone is trying to change history. The house never brought charges against him. They were talking about it but Nixon resigned making Ford President who pardoned Nixon as one of his first official acts.
I couldn't agree more but I do not think many people today understand what tyranny is or why it is not good. It's like saying gobstopper to them. Its sad...
I wonder how many people are disabling the footer with no script or something? And I would guess that the do not track stuff built into browsers as a work around for websites ignoring the do not track marker might be the problem with the nobeta=1 QS parameter.
Of course those are guesses but if you haven't looked into it, perhaps it might lead you somewhere productive. I disabled cookies altogether a while back and found most all of my web pages loaded differently and on some, I had to log in every time I clicked a link or it forgot I was already logged in. Now I just clear my browser cookies every so often and when opening new sites.
It's not even as complicated as that. You shoot a guy and hide the gun in a knot hole in an old Oak tree down the road. They here you tell someone where it is hidden and asking if it should be moved. They go and find it and make up the story of a kid was playing or a hunter saw a reflection of light and got curious to what was causing it. Now you are hit.
I think that is called parallel construction. It's how cops can pull someone over for doing 3 miles per hour over the speed limit or for a tail light being out (by their own hand at your last fuel stop) and find 2 kilos of crack inside a spare tire.
I didn't mean to sound as if I bought the idea that a US citizen waging war, aiding and abetting enemies, and getting killed right beside them needed due process before anything was done, I was explaining why a Citizen is more important than a Person to a lot of people when it comes to things like this and the US is involved.
Killing people is usually bad. Sometimes people just need killing. But a citizen, who is subject to US jurisdiction where ever they are, is constitutionally protected where a foreigner not in US jurisdiction is not. Morally, they are equal I guess. But when people get up in arms over the citizen being targeted by a drone strike, it's on a different level than a drone strike itself. That's all I was trying to say.
Lol.. Fighting in what you think is pointless wars is nothing but a distraction. The draft was brought up because some asshat declared that the military doesn't do anything for his freedom and went on to degrade the people serving. Defending our freedoms has no draft built in but you do not need a war to have a draft. Many European countries and quite a few others have or had until relatively recently, compulsory service. This means everyone was drafted in times of peace just in case it became un-peaceful. Don't confuse the war(s) with why a draft might happen. It's just one of many reasons why one might happen.
I don't think this current government would care if it was constitutional or not. They seem to not bother when passing other laws. You were correct, we need to take the government back. However, I'm not sure if we would agree on what exactly that means. We might though.
Well, we do know from lawsuits that the IRS requested and received donor information as well as shared that with apposing groups on at least one of the claims.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/...
We also know that the IRS actually did create word lists and purposely stalled applications based on them. We know that from the Treasury Department Inspector General's investigation.
http://politicalticker.blogs.c...
We also know that non tea party groups fell into that catagory and the IG report was basically only looking for Tea Party issues because that was what it was tasked to do.
The problem here is that people are concentrating on the tea party. Of course it hit them the hardest but it also hit others who had a constitutional right to get a message out. This message was obstructed by the IRS, whether it was a conservative or progressive one in what appears to be an illegal move. Of course the appears is more or less due to the person behind it taking the 5th and all her and 6 other key employee communications records (emails) disappearing. So do not focus on the Tea Party, focus on the government using the IRS to quite dissent which is a more accurate description of the conspiracy. It's just the tea party screaming bloody murder the loudest.
It is probably just a political scam anyways. It is like Hillary's rose law firm billing records that appeared on a coffe table in the residence after being missing for years. They were found just in time to strengthen the vast right wing condpiracy claim. Of course there was nothing incriminating in them.
I suspect the emails will be "recovered" close to an election and there will be no smoking gun or anything.