You go on to answer this quite well, but I do not think agnostic or Atheist or even religions matter much. The problem is in assertions that there is not evidence or fact to back up. Saying I'm not sure or I don't find enough evidence to believe is completely different then saying your religion is wrong. When an "I don't believe" or "I'm not" sure turns into a "You can't believe either", it's a lot more then a disbelief in something that can't really be scientifically proven or falsified.
You see, religious beliefs generally dictate why religions have to proselytize which is why they attempt to recruit. It's part of their religious dogma. If you are Agnostic or Atheist, there really is no burden unless you are defending your personal position from something. But that isn't what we are seeing with some Atheists. They are organized into a religion that goes out and pushes their message and make unsupported statements of opinion as if they were fact and attempt to use that to put other religions down. That is the structure of a practicing religion which Atheism for many has become.
Yeah, it's not like we don't expect them to follow the laws created by faceless governments under the guise they will be locked up or punished by a judge anything. It's not like we don't teach them that the toy in that other person's yard isn't theirs to play with because it belongs to someone they likely have never seen. Its not like we don't put kids in organized classes and feed them information under threat of bad grades, flunking, and being a loser all their life who doesn't make any money and will be socially lower then everyone else if they don't learn the stuff.
And we all know that once someone knows about God and religion, they can never reject it ever.
You obviously aren't paying attention to life. But I'm willing to bet I could take one thing you say and argue to to absurdity to make a very weak point just like you tried to do. What's that you say? Those example don't count because you agree with that coercion and not that of someone teaching a kid about religion? Well, here is the one thing in common with all of that. The kid can look at the threat and determine himself if it is viable or legitimate and whether or not it means anything to them. They can then accept it or reject it or even ignore it- it happens all the time. Teaching a kid about religion is no different then teaching them in schools about science, math, reading, or anything else in life.
I find it interesting though. In ratings, they lump the under 25 crowd in with the over 2 years of age viewers. It's not until you hit age 25 before they don't think of you as a kid somewhere between infant and adult.
Let me as you something though... Does it yank your chain that more people like Fox News then any other station? ERR I mean that the vast majority of people in the country think differently then you?
Mexico is not in NATO either. It isn't that NATO is the same as the united federation, it's the allies and alliances are more similar to the UN. In fact, the federation charter was sort of modeled after the UN charter.
And yet McKinnon and Assange are still in the UK and have not been extradited to the US or Sweden. Allies do not need to be in a formal group to be a federation. A federation is more or less an association to a common goal. The biggest difference might be something along the lines of the hundreds of years of working together as allies and treaties outside the federation. But think more along the lines of the UN then NATO.
People are born without the ability to communicate, walk, or reason. That is indoctrinated too. If your way is so right and logical, the proper conclusions will be made when the child begins understanding the world around them. Your concern is a non concern. Just ask any self proclaimed Atheist who says they used to be Christian. You will easily find them, they are generally the most outspoken idiots on the internet.
Couldn't you just use the cable into a powered USB hub? I know it's somewhat unsophisticated- especially when trying to be mobile, but the powered hub is supposed to solve power deficiency problems on regular devices. I suppose you could even rig a battery and charger to it. I don't know if there are any already like that or not.
Using isn't that big of an issue, if you get caught, it's your ass.
The problem is when a company sells it. Especially when that company is large enough that everyone involve will see dollar signs and possibly an opportunity to take a cut every time they mention the name.
Wasn't there a joke about windows CE and the desktop?
Oh yeah, Microsoft took the best of windows CE and ME on the consumer desktop and combined it with windows NT to come up with Windows CEMENT- hard as a brick and dumb as a rock.
It's not impossible either. Look a ships or submarines. You do not need to completely enclose the generators, just keep the below any realistic waterline areas sealed up until above the expected waterline.
Make up definitions? What do you think Achieve actually means? And yes, ask my dog, I coerced you into making a bigger fool this time too.
Achieve Accomplish or bring about. "coerce" is "to achieve by force or threat."
What part of achieve is correct if it fails? What part of force or threat is active if you do not believe the person or thing to exhibit the force or threat is real? and you better reply or something bad will happen to you. Oh noes, I just coerced you into replying. lol
I hoped you would reply with something like that. I actually told my dog that if you didn't God would punish you severely. It's nice to see the my belief in God can coerce you to do things I wanted you to do.
BTW, attempted means tried to but did not succeed. Not only is your use a contradictory of the english language, you are a complete idiot if you think I coerced you into doing anything.
But hey, just wait until you find out what I'm going to coerce you to do next.
You wouldn't need to put the fuel up there. They originally pump it out of the ground over much deeper distances then most skyscrapers would dream of being tall. Pump it up to the generator, have a containment pad or tank, if a fire breaks out, dump the fuel in the line down to the containment vessel.
Or better yet, don't bother putting either on the roof and just make the room housing it in the basement waterproof. then you can lock down the lower level when there is expected trouble like this and not worry about it.
Bullshit. If you do not believe or understand there is a threat or if someone does not force you, you are not under any condition but your own free will. You can however, imagine force or threat and be under coercion but it would exist only in your mind.
The bottom line is, if an Atheist believe a Christian is coercing him by the use of hell or any other biblical retribution to be administered by God, you are either a complete idiot or not an Atheist.
Actually, you proved my point exactly as I made it. If you convinced someone of your lie and they "believed it".
I never said the force or threat of force had to be true, I said the person being coerced had to believe it would be true in order for it to be coercion.
No. California is part of a Union- Not a Federation. A federation does not necessarily surrender sovereignty which California has done at least in part. They simply agree to be bound by common goals and work together to further those goals. The differences between a federation and Union were put to a test in the US during the civil war.
On the other hand, rethink California as England or Mexico and you would have a more apt comparison.
Ha.. you got me. True and strict Atheism is not a belief per se but the evangelical atheisim which is what is commonly practiced on the interweb and by Dawkins is a belief.
There are people who respond to the belief in a God the same way as I will respond to your random predicate question, don't know-don't care. But that is not reflective of the people who are actually asserting there is no god or that religions are scams. They simply aren't the same. Atheism as a term has become the same as like being gay. Are you simply happy or homosexual? Are you religiously appose to other religions, or do you just not believe in any of them?
Interestingly, this might be a practical thing. It was about 40 degrees F in my areas yesterday. The girl working the outdoor market had to keep removing her glove to use the touch screen on the register and even then, the cold caused it to not function as effectively as she was used to it. A magnetic stylus (if it was compatible) would have been ideal for her in that specific type of situation. Rubber pads on the gloves solved the issues with trying to count money and this was the only other reason she needed to remove them.
Quiet. You will give Apple and Idea and they will produce a product then patent a circus on a phone or on a tablet. Then all the geeks will demand on as soon as their old stuff gets 2 months old.
Interesting.. I'm actually glad the situation did happen. There are a lot of people in the US who think the guy is associated with terrorists and the taliban and it shows that the US government is actually doing something and not just harrasing citizens boarding planes. Had he not tweeted anything, we never would have known about it and never would have known that the government was on top of things.
I personally don't care how people in the world view the US either. They are going to have their interests in mind and we will have ours in mind. As I pointed out, I can find far worse examples from supposedly far better countries of this so called misconduct. The big deal is only being made because it makes the US look bad. Virtually no one said a word when even the UK politicians were claiming it was madness that people who did nothing wrong were put on a list to be denied entry into the UK simply because their free speech made people mad at them.
Atheism isn't a belief, so.. "d stupid believe the same as you" Doesn't apply.
Atheism most certainly is a belief. In fact, it's an unsupported belief that is being attempted to be pushed onto others in the same way religions do. There is not proof supporting Atheism, if there was, you could say it is fact. But outside of the lack of proof, it takes a belief system in order to conclude the lack of evidence means something you can affirmatively state and push onto others.
All he is saying is that those people are preyed upon by people who have a non provable belief that happens to coincide with needing to ask for money.
And all I am saying is that it doesn't matter because the alternative being pushed is no different in practice. So what if people gain hope if not for the hear but the after life and it makes them feel better about themselves or their future?
" you are no different then the religious nutters you decry." No. when he makes up nonsense and forces everyone else to believe it, then he will be the same as the nutters. Right now, he is a person wanting people to be factually informed and educated and not being told to accept there fate because some moron in the sky has some sort of plan.
What exactly do you think his crusade against religion is about? There is no fact supporting "there is no god" or "religion is not real" or "the guy in the sky is a moron". That is all your opinions that you believe to be true derived from whatever justification you can find to support the assertions but not fact. It's no different then saying For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life." or "you can be saved from your sins if you accept Jesus Christ in your heart".
And before you have a conniption fit, look up the definition of fact and see how it applies to Atheism pushing their beliefs.
Oh, I'm sure there was students who could have done what you couldn't. You could have still gotten some use from them even without funding if you put your mind to it and didn't reject them for not being good enough for you.
Yeah, I figured as much but this is/. after all. Anyways, the biggest thing I wanted to point out was that even existing customers can benefit from this.
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You go on to answer this quite well, but I do not think agnostic or Atheist or even religions matter much. The problem is in assertions that there is not evidence or fact to back up. Saying I'm not sure or I don't find enough evidence to believe is completely different then saying your religion is wrong. When an "I don't believe" or "I'm not" sure turns into a "You can't believe either", it's a lot more then a disbelief in something that can't really be scientifically proven or falsified.
You see, religious beliefs generally dictate why religions have to proselytize which is why they attempt to recruit. It's part of their religious dogma. If you are Agnostic or Atheist, there really is no burden unless you are defending your personal position from something. But that isn't what we are seeing with some Atheists. They are organized into a religion that goes out and pushes their message and make unsupported statements of opinion as if they were fact and attempt to use that to put other religions down. That is the structure of a practicing religion which Atheism for many has become.
Yeah, it's not like we don't expect them to follow the laws created by faceless governments under the guise they will be locked up or punished by a judge anything. It's not like we don't teach them that the toy in that other person's yard isn't theirs to play with because it belongs to someone they likely have never seen. Its not like we don't put kids in organized classes and feed them information under threat of bad grades, flunking, and being a loser all their life who doesn't make any money and will be socially lower then everyone else if they don't learn the stuff.
And we all know that once someone knows about God and religion, they can never reject it ever.
You obviously aren't paying attention to life. But I'm willing to bet I could take one thing you say and argue to to absurdity to make a very weak point just like you tried to do. What's that you say? Those example don't count because you agree with that coercion and not that of someone teaching a kid about religion? Well, here is the one thing in common with all of that. The kid can look at the threat and determine himself if it is viable or legitimate and whether or not it means anything to them. They can then accept it or reject it or even ignore it- it happens all the time. Teaching a kid about religion is no different then teaching them in schools about science, math, reading, or anything else in life.
Yep, Fox New dominates the New channel ratings.
http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2012/10/31/cable-news-ratings-for-tuesday-october-30-2012/155488/
I find it interesting though. In ratings, they lump the under 25 crowd in with the over 2 years of age viewers. It's not until you hit age 25 before they don't think of you as a kid somewhere between infant and adult.
Let me as you something though... Does it yank your chain that more people like Fox News then any other station? ERR I mean that the vast majority of people in the country think differently then you?
Mexico is not in NATO either. It isn't that NATO is the same as the united federation, it's the allies and alliances are more similar to the UN. In fact, the federation charter was sort of modeled after the UN charter.
And yet McKinnon and Assange are still in the UK and have not been extradited to the US or Sweden. Allies do not need to be in a formal group to be a federation. A federation is more or less an association to a common goal. The biggest difference might be something along the lines of the hundreds of years of working together as allies and treaties outside the federation. But think more along the lines of the UN then NATO.
People are born without the ability to communicate, walk, or reason. That is indoctrinated too. If your way is so right and logical, the proper conclusions will be made when the child begins understanding the world around them. Your concern is a non concern. Just ask any self proclaimed Atheist who says they used to be Christian. You will easily find them, they are generally the most outspoken idiots on the internet.
Couldn't you just use the cable into a powered USB hub? I know it's somewhat unsophisticated- especially when trying to be mobile, but the powered hub is supposed to solve power deficiency problems on regular devices. I suppose you could even rig a battery and charger to it. I don't know if there are any already like that or not.
Using isn't that big of an issue, if you get caught, it's your ass.
The problem is when a company sells it. Especially when that company is large enough that everyone involve will see dollar signs and possibly an opportunity to take a cut every time they mention the name.
Wasn't there a joke about windows CE and the desktop?
Oh yeah, Microsoft took the best of windows CE and ME on the consumer desktop and combined it with windows NT to come up with Windows CEMENT- hard as a brick and dumb as a rock.
Anyways, you shouldn't be worrying about all these windows versions and just use the Windows RG, the Really Good version.
It's not impossible either. Look a ships or submarines. You do not need to completely enclose the generators, just keep the below any realistic waterline areas sealed up until above the expected waterline.
Make up definitions? What do you think Achieve actually means? And yes, ask my dog, I coerced you into making a bigger fool this time too.
Achieve Accomplish or bring about.
"coerce" is "to achieve by force or threat."
What part of achieve is correct if it fails? What part of force or threat is active if you do not believe the person or thing to exhibit the force or threat is real? and you better reply or something bad will happen to you. Oh noes, I just coerced you into replying. lol
lol.. you are clueless.
I hoped you would reply with something like that. I actually told my dog that if you didn't God would punish you severely. It's nice to see the my belief in God can coerce you to do things I wanted you to do.
BTW, attempted means tried to but did not succeed. Not only is your use a contradictory of the english language, you are a complete idiot if you think I coerced you into doing anything.
But hey, just wait until you find out what I'm going to coerce you to do next.
You wouldn't need to put the fuel up there. They originally pump it out of the ground over much deeper distances then most skyscrapers would dream of being tall. Pump it up to the generator, have a containment pad or tank, if a fire breaks out, dump the fuel in the line down to the containment vessel.
Or better yet, don't bother putting either on the roof and just make the room housing it in the basement waterproof. then you can lock down the lower level when there is expected trouble like this and not worry about it.
lol.. No, they just like good BBQ pork.
Bullshit. If you do not believe or understand there is a threat or if someone does not force you, you are not under any condition but your own free will. You can however, imagine force or threat and be under coercion but it would exist only in your mind.
The bottom line is, if an Atheist believe a Christian is coercing him by the use of hell or any other biblical retribution to be administered by God, you are either a complete idiot or not an Atheist.
Actually, you proved my point exactly as I made it. If you convinced someone of your lie and they "believed it".
I never said the force or threat of force had to be true, I said the person being coerced had to believe it would be true in order for it to be coercion.
No. California is part of a Union- Not a Federation. A federation does not necessarily surrender sovereignty which California has done at least in part. They simply agree to be bound by common goals and work together to further those goals. The differences between a federation and Union were put to a test in the US during the civil war.
On the other hand, rethink California as England or Mexico and you would have a more apt comparison.
Ha.. you got me. True and strict Atheism is not a belief per se but the evangelical atheisim which is what is commonly practiced on the interweb and by Dawkins is a belief.
There are people who respond to the belief in a God the same way as I will respond to your random predicate question, don't know-don't care. But that is not reflective of the people who are actually asserting there is no god or that religions are scams. They simply aren't the same. Atheism as a term has become the same as like being gay. Are you simply happy or homosexual? Are you religiously appose to other religions, or do you just not believe in any of them?
It was either a mod making a mistake or someone who agreed that huff post is a lot of biased drivel. Why are you surprised or upset?
Interestingly, this might be a practical thing. It was about 40 degrees F in my areas yesterday. The girl working the outdoor market had to keep removing her glove to use the touch screen on the register and even then, the cold caused it to not function as effectively as she was used to it. A magnetic stylus (if it was compatible) would have been ideal for her in that specific type of situation. Rubber pads on the gloves solved the issues with trying to count money and this was the only other reason she needed to remove them.
Quiet. You will give Apple and Idea and they will produce a product then patent a circus on a phone or on a tablet. Then all the geeks will demand on as soon as their old stuff gets 2 months old.
Interesting.. I'm actually glad the situation did happen. There are a lot of people in the US who think the guy is associated with terrorists and the taliban and it shows that the US government is actually doing something and not just harrasing citizens boarding planes. Had he not tweeted anything, we never would have known about it and never would have known that the government was on top of things.
I personally don't care how people in the world view the US either. They are going to have their interests in mind and we will have ours in mind. As I pointed out, I can find far worse examples from supposedly far better countries of this so called misconduct. The big deal is only being made because it makes the US look bad. Virtually no one said a word when even the UK politicians were claiming it was madness that people who did nothing wrong were put on a list to be denied entry into the UK simply because their free speech made people mad at them.
Atheism most certainly is a belief. In fact, it's an unsupported belief that is being attempted to be pushed onto others in the same way religions do. There is not proof supporting Atheism, if there was, you could say it is fact. But outside of the lack of proof, it takes a belief system in order to conclude the lack of evidence means something you can affirmatively state and push onto others.
And all I am saying is that it doesn't matter because the alternative being pushed is no different in practice. So what if people gain hope if not for the hear but the after life and it makes them feel better about themselves or their future?
What exactly do you think his crusade against religion is about? There is no fact supporting "there is no god" or "religion is not real" or "the guy in the sky is a moron". That is all your opinions that you believe to be true derived from whatever justification you can find to support the assertions but not fact. It's no different then saying For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life." or "you can be saved from your sins if you accept Jesus Christ in your heart".
And before you have a conniption fit, look up the definition of fact and see how it applies to Atheism pushing their beliefs.
Oh, I'm sure there was students who could have done what you couldn't. You could have still gotten some use from them even without funding if you put your mind to it and didn't reject them for not being good enough for you.
Umm.. What is so humorous about a train ride?
Yeah, I figured as much but this is /. after all. Anyways, the biggest thing I wanted to point out was that even existing customers can benefit from this.
So then your answer is no, we couldn't do it again in the US?