Well Mr. Smith we'd like to run a series of tests to see what illness you have, but Obama and Congress passed a healthcare bill that limits us to run just one test. We ran it for lupis, but it came back negative, and since we ran one test, we cannot run another
The scenario you describe in no way relates to the proposal in the article or in the summary, and is poorly crafted propaganda designed solely to advance a political agenda. Does the insane amount of lying you have to do on a daily basis to maintain your ideology ever, even for a second, bother you? Lying is morally wrong. You should be ashamed.
Yep. Now the question is, how much damage will the death throes of the old labels/publishers do, and how many of them will manage the transition to the new era.:)
Thanks for the clarification and expansion of your comments.
I think the key to keeping the money flowing to content creators is for them to increasingly cut out the middle man. With the advent of things like the Kindle, it is making more and more sense for an author to self-publish an ebook version only. As we move closer to that, we'll see some of the problems with the music industry. I'm sure there is lots of music out there that I would enjoy, but it is hard to find a content filter to narrow the choices down that creates a subset that I actually like. There have been some attempts but as it stands now I still have to go out there and manually filter through tons of detrius to get at the brine.
Things like Valve's Steam and Slashdot both provide models where content filtering lets me find a little better what I want.
Right now, the filters in place end up sending a lot of perfectly good content that at least someone out there would have bought to the rubbish heap, because it costs too much ink and paper (or whatever) to take a chance on it. I guess in a perfect world, everything put up for publshing would be available, and people would have the option to filter for themselves. A small filtering fee per transaction, with most of the money going to the creators, and you could sell a lot fewer units at a lower price than currently and still keep the same amount of artists in work.
If I had a million dollars I'd hire a couple of coders and start a company to provide the software backend to publishers to do for ebooks what steam does for games. I think that is probably a good step in the right direction.
Slashdot is not a newspaper. It links to newspapers and other outfits with paid journalists. The day "the newspaper" dies, what will all the slashdots, gizmodos, diggs, reddits, twitters and blogs link to? Who will do the reporting they all link to?
Copies are easy and free. Distribution, storage, backups-- and generally ensuring that you have what you want, when you want it, where you want it, and how you want it-- that stuff is still challenging. There's money to be made there, still.
Don't forget the generation of content, still a challenge to make it compelling and worth distributing, storing, and making backups of.
The biggest concern is making sure that people can make a living from generating content. Without the goose, there won't be any more golden eggs.
Its no problem. It isn't personal to me, any more than I see chemotherapy to be a personal attack on cancer. The discrimination against gay people is, to me, a memetic virus that has infected and is harming our civilization. I'm kind of like a pissed off T-Cell looking to hit back at the virus wherever I can find it. I'm glad we can agree on the important thing, everything else is just dancing in the park.
Honestly, after struggling with depression for a very long time and seeing what it does to friends and family, I'll pass on inflicting that misery on my kid on the off chance that they'll be considered a great artist years after they're dead.
There are plenty of people like you. Your opinion is wrong, so you try to obfuscate it with logical fallacies, lies, distortions, or cherry picked facts. The analogy you put up failed at every level becacuse it didn't accurately relate to the situation under discussion. As for "who you are," it doesn't matter. We're not dicussing the specifics of your personal life, we're talking about something that is flat out wrong (discrimination based on sexual orientation).
Quietly standing by while people are subject to discrimintation based on traits they were born with is not morally acceptable to me.
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I don't know, it sounds like a good idea to me. We can start with simple things like eye and hair color, and hopefully move on to eliminating the genetics that cause obesity, stupidity, and depression.
Well, thats part of the story. The high level of obfuscation in the code actually prolonged the lives of those poor bastards, as when they did they beheld that all of the entries, when considered together and simplified to their pure essence, spelled out the true name of Shub-Niggurath, and the portal to the third realm of sub-Earth that opened when this name was spoken aloud showed them sights that drove them to the edge that exists between madness and the very heart of Hell itself.
Be glad they haven't announced the winner, for when they do that code will open the final seal of the old one's prison, and those with wit left to comprehend their fates will long to be returned to the dust from which they were raised!
Why would sexual orientation come up in a game of Team Fortress?
Why does my mother often come up in games of Team Fortress, often in relation to her ability to fellate increasingly improbable amounts of extinct non-mamallian life? E pur si muove!
So here's how it works with people like you: I'll read your comment until I get to something blatantly wrong, either by lie or by ignorance, and then I'll stop. Here's how far I got:
Okay. I'm going to go down to the local lesbian bar (I used to drink there with some friends) and say, loudly but not unreasonably so, "I like to screw chicks!" Repeatedly.
Your analogy completely fails. If you want to have a similar situation, what you should do is take a piece of paper, fold it in half, and inside the fold write some information about yourself, including your assertion that you "like to screw chicks." Take this folded piece of paper, write "bio" on the outside, and pin it to your shirt. Then go to the local lesbian bar, order a drink, listen to some Melissa Etheridge, and if anyone asks to see your bio, let them open the fold and read it.
If, when they finish laughing, you get kicked out, write a blog post about it, submit it to slashdot, and see if anyone cares.
Sadly, certain parts of the United States have this problem as well. Now that they can't openly attack the "uppity negros" for daring to make eye contact, they've moved on to using homosexuality as the new "its ok to hate" classification.
Small town America actually has more in common with the Taliban in Afghanistan, culturally, than they do with somewhere like Boston.
it might not be something bad, or something inappropriate. but trying to keep the peace on a simple gaming platform seems reasonable. it's just not the place for discussions of that kind, and you just won't reach anything by doing it there.
Based on this and other similar statements, you strike me as the kind of person who also thinks the front seat of a bus isn't the right forum for initiating social change.
The fact that your fear leads you to a value system that causes you to defend the status quo over justice in a misguided attempt to avoid confrontation is sad. Part of the free speech ideals and the marketplace of ideas that formed the core of the englightenment and the system of government we use in the USA is a healthy confrontation and voiciferous rejection of opinions that are poorly reasoned and wrong, regardless of forum.
both the ones getting into a fight with her because she's lesbian, and the lesbian for obviously provoking those people.
So I'm guessing you have no clue that your statement is exactly equivalent to white southern racists in the USA making comments along the lines of, "I don't condone beating a man, but that uppity negro should have known better than to sit so close to a white woman."
While the specific cases (physical assault vs banning fom xbox live) are not the same, the attitude is, and it is just as reprehensible and disgusting now as it was then.
It is sad, pathetic, and a sign of mental weakness to be so worked up by the mere fact that someone is homosexual that you would condone their social ostracism for being open and honest about it.
Our family relations are a basic level of conversation among humans at every level of history, civilization, and culture. Being homosexual is just as fundamental to someone's family relation matrix as is their number of siblings, children, or the occupation of their spouse, all of which are things that are brought up frequently in casual conversation. That someone is homosexual is less unusual than, say, them having an identical twin, or coming from a family of 10+ siblings. It also is no more deserving of persecution. If you disagree, you are wrong. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but that doesn't make your opinion correct in any meaningful way. When you harm another member of society who is innocent of harming you, that makes you the villian. The people who hounded her on Xbox Live and the MS employees who booted her off the service, if they did so merely because she was gay and unapologetic, are the villains in this scenario. Anyone who defends them joins them in the ranks of villainy.
This isn't really a "lately" thing. They've been doing this to people since laws were invented. Thats why you hear stories about mafia guys going down for tax evasion.
I guess she should also avoid mentioning that she's a woman, since maybe 1 in a 100 people might think video games are no place for women and she shouldn't shove the fact that she's playing in their faces, right? I guess people who are bigoted little shits with thin skin should have their precious feelings coddled, right, or else they'll throw a tantrum and it'll be my fault.
Some people stamped their feet and howled and threatened to hold their breath until they got their way, and your solution is to spoil the brats further.
Honestly, your rhetoric sounds like that of many people I know who like to outwardly pretend they're tolerant but who are inwardly homophobic, and have decided to adpat the position "my problem isn't homosexuals, it is that they shove it in my face." Of course, by shove it in your face, you would be refering to the fact that they have the audacity to openly exist and wish to seek relationships with like minded consentual adults, something they can't do without mentioning the fact that they have no interest in persons with certain genital configurations.
If you have a problem with open, out sexuality then you are the one who has the problem. If your skin is so thin that people have to walk on eggshells around you, then you need to toughen up. I, for one, have no patience with that kind of person and have no tolerance left for the intolerant.
Why should announcing your sexual orientation start a fight? The bad behavior is on the part of people who feel that it is ok to persecute someone for talking about their sexual orientation.
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Well Mr. Smith we'd like to run a series of tests to see what illness you have, but Obama and Congress passed a healthcare bill that limits us to run just one test. We ran it for lupis, but it came back negative, and since we ran one test, we cannot run another
The scenario you describe in no way relates to the proposal in the article or in the summary, and is poorly crafted propaganda designed solely to advance a political agenda. Does the insane amount of lying you have to do on a daily basis to maintain your ideology ever, even for a second, bother you? Lying is morally wrong. You should be ashamed.
Yep. Now the question is, how much damage will the death throes of the old labels/publishers do, and how many of them will manage the transition to the new era. :)
Thanks for the clarification and expansion of your comments.
I think the key to keeping the money flowing to content creators is for them to increasingly cut out the middle man. With the advent of things like the Kindle, it is making more and more sense for an author to self-publish an ebook version only. As we move closer to that, we'll see some of the problems with the music industry. I'm sure there is lots of music out there that I would enjoy, but it is hard to find a content filter to narrow the choices down that creates a subset that I actually like. There have been some attempts but as it stands now I still have to go out there and manually filter through tons of detrius to get at the brine.
Things like Valve's Steam and Slashdot both provide models where content filtering lets me find a little better what I want.
Right now, the filters in place end up sending a lot of perfectly good content that at least someone out there would have bought to the rubbish heap, because it costs too much ink and paper (or whatever) to take a chance on it. I guess in a perfect world, everything put up for publshing would be available, and people would have the option to filter for themselves. A small filtering fee per transaction, with most of the money going to the creators, and you could sell a lot fewer units at a lower price than currently and still keep the same amount of artists in work.
If I had a million dollars I'd hire a couple of coders and start a company to provide the software backend to publishers to do for ebooks what steam does for games. I think that is probably a good step in the right direction.
Slashdot is not a newspaper. It links to newspapers and other outfits with paid journalists. The day "the newspaper" dies, what will all the slashdots, gizmodos, diggs, reddits, twitters and blogs link to? Who will do the reporting they all link to?
Some blogs do a lot of original reporting. Huffington Post and Talking Points Memo both immidiately come to mind.
Copies are easy and free. Distribution, storage, backups-- and generally ensuring that you have what you want, when you want it, where you want it, and how you want it-- that stuff is still challenging. There's money to be made there, still.
Don't forget the generation of content, still a challenge to make it compelling and worth distributing, storing, and making backups of.
The biggest concern is making sure that people can make a living from generating content. Without the goose, there won't be any more golden eggs.
Its no problem. It isn't personal to me, any more than I see chemotherapy to be a personal attack on cancer. The discrimination against gay people is, to me, a memetic virus that has infected and is harming our civilization. I'm kind of like a pissed off T-Cell looking to hit back at the virus wherever I can find it. I'm glad we can agree on the important thing, everything else is just dancing in the park.
Honestly, after struggling with depression for a very long time and seeing what it does to friends and family, I'll pass on inflicting that misery on my kid on the off chance that they'll be considered a great artist years after they're dead.
There are plenty of people like you. Your opinion is wrong, so you try to obfuscate it with logical fallacies, lies, distortions, or cherry picked facts. The analogy you put up failed at every level becacuse it didn't accurately relate to the situation under discussion. As for "who you are," it doesn't matter. We're not dicussing the specifics of your personal life, we're talking about something that is flat out wrong (discrimination based on sexual orientation).
Quietly standing by while people are subject to discrimintation based on traits they were born with is not morally acceptable to me.
I'll just be sure to install the latest ad blocking plugin in my kid.
You didn't hear the wooshing sound, did you?
I don't know, it sounds like a good idea to me. We can start with simple things like eye and hair color, and hopefully move on to eliminating the genetics that cause obesity, stupidity, and depression.
You can disable the chip without damaging your passport (excepting possibly some scuff marks) with a hammer.
Well, thats part of the story. The high level of obfuscation in the code actually prolonged the lives of those poor bastards, as when they did they beheld that all of the entries, when considered together and simplified to their pure essence, spelled out the true name of Shub-Niggurath, and the portal to the third realm of sub-Earth that opened when this name was spoken aloud showed them sights that drove them to the edge that exists between madness and the very heart of Hell itself.
Be glad they haven't announced the winner, for when they do that code will open the final seal of the old one's prison, and those with wit left to comprehend their fates will long to be returned to the dust from which they were raised!
Damn I've been reading too much Stross again.
Unless he's standing on your head.
Why would sexual orientation come up in a game of Team Fortress?
Why does my mother often come up in games of Team Fortress, often in relation to her ability to fellate increasingly improbable amounts of extinct non-mamallian life? E pur si muove!
So here's how it works with people like you: I'll read your comment until I get to something blatantly wrong, either by lie or by ignorance, and then I'll stop. Here's how far I got:
Okay. I'm going to go down to the local lesbian bar (I used to drink there with some friends) and say, loudly but not unreasonably so, "I like to screw chicks!" Repeatedly.
Your analogy completely fails. If you want to have a similar situation, what you should do is take a piece of paper, fold it in half, and inside the fold write some information about yourself, including your assertion that you "like to screw chicks." Take this folded piece of paper, write "bio" on the outside, and pin it to your shirt. Then go to the local lesbian bar, order a drink, listen to some Melissa Etheridge, and if anyone asks to see your bio, let them open the fold and read it.
If, when they finish laughing, you get kicked out, write a blog post about it, submit it to slashdot, and see if anyone cares.
Sadly, certain parts of the United States have this problem as well. Now that they can't openly attack the "uppity negros" for daring to make eye contact, they've moved on to using homosexuality as the new "its ok to hate" classification.
Small town America actually has more in common with the Taliban in Afghanistan, culturally, than they do with somewhere like Boston.
i doubt in a gaming setting like xbox live the discussion rarely gets to your sexual orientation.
Based on this statement, I will not state with total certainty that you are either a liar, or you have never been on XBox Live.
it might not be something bad, or something inappropriate. but trying to keep the peace on a simple gaming platform seems reasonable. it's just not the place for discussions of that kind, and you just won't reach anything by doing it there.
Based on this and other similar statements, you strike me as the kind of person who also thinks the front seat of a bus isn't the right forum for initiating social change.
The fact that your fear leads you to a value system that causes you to defend the status quo over justice in a misguided attempt to avoid confrontation is sad. Part of the free speech ideals and the marketplace of ideas that formed the core of the englightenment and the system of government we use in the USA is a healthy confrontation and voiciferous rejection of opinions that are poorly reasoned and wrong, regardless of forum.
both the ones getting into a fight with her because she's lesbian, and the lesbian for obviously provoking those people.
So I'm guessing you have no clue that your statement is exactly equivalent to white southern racists in the USA making comments along the lines of, "I don't condone beating a man, but that uppity negro should have known better than to sit so close to a white woman."
While the specific cases (physical assault vs banning fom xbox live) are not the same, the attitude is, and it is just as reprehensible and disgusting now as it was then.
It is sad, pathetic, and a sign of mental weakness to be so worked up by the mere fact that someone is homosexual that you would condone their social ostracism for being open and honest about it.
Our family relations are a basic level of conversation among humans at every level of history, civilization, and culture. Being homosexual is just as fundamental to someone's family relation matrix as is their number of siblings, children, or the occupation of their spouse, all of which are things that are brought up frequently in casual conversation. That someone is homosexual is less unusual than, say, them having an identical twin, or coming from a family of 10+ siblings. It also is no more deserving of persecution. If you disagree, you are wrong. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but that doesn't make your opinion correct in any meaningful way. When you harm another member of society who is innocent of harming you, that makes you the villian. The people who hounded her on Xbox Live and the MS employees who booted her off the service, if they did so merely because she was gay and unapologetic, are the villains in this scenario. Anyone who defends them joins them in the ranks of villainy.
This isn't really a "lately" thing. They've been doing this to people since laws were invented. Thats why you hear stories about mafia guys going down for tax evasion.
I guess she should also avoid mentioning that she's a woman, since maybe 1 in a 100 people might think video games are no place for women and she shouldn't shove the fact that she's playing in their faces, right? I guess people who are bigoted little shits with thin skin should have their precious feelings coddled, right, or else they'll throw a tantrum and it'll be my fault.
Some people stamped their feet and howled and threatened to hold their breath until they got their way, and your solution is to spoil the brats further.
Honestly, your rhetoric sounds like that of many people I know who like to outwardly pretend they're tolerant but who are inwardly homophobic, and have decided to adpat the position "my problem isn't homosexuals, it is that they shove it in my face." Of course, by shove it in your face, you would be refering to the fact that they have the audacity to openly exist and wish to seek relationships with like minded consentual adults, something they can't do without mentioning the fact that they have no interest in persons with certain genital configurations.
If you have a problem with open, out sexuality then you are the one who has the problem. If your skin is so thin that people have to walk on eggshells around you, then you need to toughen up. I, for one, have no patience with that kind of person and have no tolerance left for the intolerant.
Why should announcing your sexual orientation start a fight? The bad behavior is on the part of people who feel that it is ok to persecute someone for talking about their sexual orientation.
Oh, they settled. Didn't catch that.
Once the source code is out there, it'd be impossible to stop. Let's hope they post it instead of making you mail in requesting it.
Well, you could always mail in and request the source and then post it, maybe on sourceforge? It is open source, right?