The incumbents still win. The court case will stall the competition indefinitely, and the incumbent knows they'll just receive a slap on the wrist at the end.
Uhm. A few things... 1. What the hell is the USF all about? Shouldn't that be funding some of this *already* ? 2. Profit is something that a company as a whole demonstrates. Not every. single. individual. installation. does, at least not for something that is otherwise considered to be a *utility*. The important part is that everybody gets good service, not that Randal Stephens gets to buy another gold yacht. Zone A is operating at a loss but needs the services anyway? Deploy and use the income from Zone B to offset those losses. Or gtfo and don't interfere when somebody else comes and tries to run their own infrastructure instead. Shouldn't be able to have it both ways.
After seeing the Daniel Shaver video, I can't imagine a net positive outcome. And I say that as somebody who had to go through military training. While suppressors add considerable weight to the weapon at the barrel end, shoot it with subsonic ammo and it's virtually silent.
And let's not forget to mention all the former military gear that has been bequeathed upon civilian police forces around the country. The existence of an MRAP with a civilian police force creates a need to use it.
Spoofing caller-id has been trivial for quite some time - possibly since its inception. Spoofing ANI is a bit more difficult. The two data elements have different purposes, and caller id was not meant to be as authoritative as you may think. And nowadays, the PSTN isn't quite the separate network that you think it is.
The use of SWAT teams has skyrocketed since the early 1980's. The 2nd Amendment of the US Constitution has been in existence a hell of a lot longer than that, so I don't think it's an issue of there being a lot of guns in private ownership.
3 years into a loan, depending on how much was put down initially, and refinancing for the purpose of removing PMI may not be the savings it was intended to be. PMI x # of months left to reach the 20% marker compared to the refi costs. Unless this was coupled with a lower interest rate or was done specifically to re-amortize the payments, then it's likely that this was just throwing good money for bad.
It ain't a child until it is born, full stop. Therefore it's hard to see their side.:-) They can argue anything they like, but having internet access impacts the economy and people's day-to-day life a bit more than "saving" a few of the as-yet-unborn.
"Waaaah Netflix gets free electricity!". Seriously, you want to tell me that the ISP does not receive any net benefit out of that deal? And do you want to tell me that hosting a rack of Netflix's equipment and paying for the electricity and the rack is far costlier than the benefit received by the ISP?
Again, the reality on the ground in the bulk of this country suggests that your distinction is not really all that relevant. And this isn't about "getting back at", this is about "don't fsck with my packets for fun & profit".
I'm 3 miles away from the nearest McMansion typical suburban lot size (1/5 to 1/4 acre lots) subdivisions, and there is a fiber line that comes up to about 1 mile away from my house. I have absolutely zero wired providers in my area, unless anybody considers Windstream at $700/mo (plus fees & taxes) for 10 mbps symmetric something that the average family or small business (1 employee -
me) can afford - nowithstanding any renegging that Windstream will do at some point mid-contract term (I've heard a lot of chatter about this over the past year). Instead I'm forced to use "old guy who is reselling his Spectrum (formerly TWC) residential service to 25 households with factory-default UBNT equipment and doesn't even understand that he's got his traffic shaping rules ass-backwards" which very often ends up with latencies in the 800 ms to 1800 ms range 3 hops up to the local Spectrum aggregation node, or using Sprint tethered off my phone or a wireless modem, which are fine and usable until I reach the 22 GB within a month marker, and then I risk "deprioritization"... which could mean 2G speeds...
Oh and the kicker? I've actually had 3 of AT&T's linemen tell me that I'm totally qualifying for the older adsl service (one lineman was on the pole on my properly line working a trouble ticket for a neighbor who has that exact service). But any time I try to order, the answer is forever the same... "Sorry, the computer says you can't have it. And computers never lie." I can't even get an answer as to whether there is actually a problem with the margins and attenuation of the signal, or if there's some stupid in-line filters on the 48-conductor on the pole or what. I can't even get to talk to anybody in their engineering department at all.
You conveniently forgot that Netflix offers or at least offered to set up equipment on the ISP's network that would host Netflix's content. That in of itself would have kept the data local except for any scheduled synchronization on the edge systems. But iirc, the ISP's wanted Netflix to also pay money to host this equipment, which I think Netflix was offering free-of-charge to the ISP's. So the underlying story is that the ISP's were playing chicken with Netflix and ultimately won.
What's the round-trip latency on something that isn't terrestrial? For me, anything about 250ms and my ability to do work flatlines. (I work a lot with SIP and RTP.)
I work in telecom, and I think you might be a little needlessly pedantic here. For all intents and purposes, the ISPs for the VAST majority of the population of this country ARE the telcos and cable cos, which are also those same entities who own the last-mile. Either that or you just woke from a coma and think it's still the latter half of the 1990's... (and even THEN the last mile was still owned by the ILECs).
AT&T willfully and deliberately blocked Facetime because it competed with AT&T's own services. Comcast forged TCP RST's to kill bittorrent traffic they didn't like. Comcast & Verizon were shown in no uncertain terms to be deliberately throttling Netflix in order to make Netflix cough up more money. Given that Netflix competes with Comcast's and Verizon's own "home grown" services, this is explicitly why Network Neutrality was formalized. NN was the way the Internet basically had worked up until the point in time where these large incumbent monopolies did this.
There wasn't a dire need to enforce net neutrality until those who own the last mile themselves became sources of content and wished to use their ownership of the last mile as a cudgel against the competition. Remember when Comcast injected RST's into the torrent streams? Remember when it could be fully replicated that the major ISP's were deliberately throttling Netflix for no reason other than extortion? You don't have to like torrents or Netflix or even Facebooks and Twitters to see why there needs to be full separation between "those whose mundane job it is is to move bits across wires and radio waves" and "those who serve up $content".
My ex-wife is a life insurance actuary, and her primary hammer is excel. The problem is that when all you have is a hammer, everything is a nail. You wouldn't imagine how aggravating it is trying to coordinate child visitation schedules by passing around monolithic spreadsheets because she refuses - just absolutely refuses to the point even her current husband can't convince her otherwise - to use some calendaring solution that uses iCal... Hell she has a google account and won't use a shared google calendar I set up for this exact purpose. And as for her work as an actuary, I know they very often make use of spreadsheets that are in the hundreds of megabytes and macroed/scripted up the wazoo. I wonder if anybody actually has any idea if these spreadsheets are still accurate and effective for their stated purposes after several years.
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The incumbents still win. The court case will stall the competition indefinitely, and the incumbent knows they'll just receive a slap on the wrist at the end.
Every time they whine about encryption, two words immediately come to mind: parallel construction.
Uhm. A few things... 1. What the hell is the USF all about? Shouldn't that be funding some of this *already* ? 2. Profit is something that a company as a whole demonstrates. Not every. single. individual. installation. does, at least not for something that is otherwise considered to be a *utility*. The important part is that everybody gets good service, not that Randal Stephens gets to buy another gold yacht. Zone A is operating at a loss but needs the services anyway? Deploy and use the income from Zone B to offset those losses. Or gtfo and don't interfere when somebody else comes and tries to run their own infrastructure instead. Shouldn't be able to have it both ways.
After seeing the Daniel Shaver video, I can't imagine a net positive outcome. And I say that as somebody who had to go through military training. While suppressors add considerable weight to the weapon at the barrel end, shoot it with subsonic ammo and it's virtually silent.
And let's not forget to mention all the former military gear that has been bequeathed upon civilian police forces around the country. The existence of an MRAP with a civilian police force creates a need to use it.
Spoofing caller-id has been trivial for quite some time - possibly since its inception. Spoofing ANI is a bit more difficult. The two data elements have different purposes, and caller id was not meant to be as authoritative as you may think. And nowadays, the PSTN isn't quite the separate network that you think it is.
The use of SWAT teams has skyrocketed since the early 1980's. The 2nd Amendment of the US Constitution has been in existence a hell of a lot longer than that, so I don't think it's an issue of there being a lot of guns in private ownership.
3 years into a loan, depending on how much was put down initially, and refinancing for the purpose of removing PMI may not be the savings it was intended to be. PMI x # of months left to reach the 20% marker compared to the refi costs. Unless this was coupled with a lower interest rate or was done specifically to re-amortize the payments, then it's likely that this was just throwing good money for bad.
Which brings it back full circle to my first comment. :-)
Ajit, puhlease. At least have the decency to not hide yourself as AC.
It ain't a child until it is born, full stop. Therefore it's hard to see their side. :-) They can argue anything they like, but having internet access impacts the economy and people's day-to-day life a bit more than "saving" a few of the as-yet-unborn.
Eh, I hear controlling vaginas and uteri is more important than things that affect real day-to-day business in the country...
The ACA was passed with bipartisan support. Your comparison is irrelevant.
"Waaaah Netflix gets free electricity!". Seriously, you want to tell me that the ISP does not receive any net benefit out of that deal? And do you want to tell me that hosting a rack of Netflix's equipment and paying for the electricity and the rack is far costlier than the benefit received by the ISP?
Again, the reality on the ground in the bulk of this country suggests that your distinction is not really all that relevant. And this isn't about "getting back at", this is about "don't fsck with my packets for fun & profit".
I'm 3 miles away from the nearest McMansion typical suburban lot size (1/5 to 1/4 acre lots) subdivisions, and there is a fiber line that comes up to about 1 mile away from my house. I have absolutely zero wired providers in my area, unless anybody considers Windstream at $700/mo (plus fees & taxes) for 10 mbps symmetric something that the average family or small business (1 employee - me) can afford - nowithstanding any renegging that Windstream will do at some point mid-contract term (I've heard a lot of chatter about this over the past year). Instead I'm forced to use "old guy who is reselling his Spectrum (formerly TWC) residential service to 25 households with factory-default UBNT equipment and doesn't even understand that he's got his traffic shaping rules ass-backwards" which very often ends up with latencies in the 800 ms to 1800 ms range 3 hops up to the local Spectrum aggregation node, or using Sprint tethered off my phone or a wireless modem, which are fine and usable until I reach the 22 GB within a month marker, and then I risk "deprioritization"... which could mean 2G speeds...
Oh and the kicker? I've actually had 3 of AT&T's linemen tell me that I'm totally qualifying for the older adsl service (one lineman was on the pole on my properly line working a trouble ticket for a neighbor who has that exact service). But any time I try to order, the answer is forever the same... "Sorry, the computer says you can't have it. And computers never lie." I can't even get an answer as to whether there is actually a problem with the margins and attenuation of the signal, or if there's some stupid in-line filters on the 48-conductor on the pole or what. I can't even get to talk to anybody in their engineering department at all.
You conveniently forgot that Netflix offers or at least offered to set up equipment on the ISP's network that would host Netflix's content. That in of itself would have kept the data local except for any scheduled synchronization on the edge systems. But iirc, the ISP's wanted Netflix to also pay money to host this equipment, which I think Netflix was offering free-of-charge to the ISP's. So the underlying story is that the ISP's were playing chicken with Netflix and ultimately won.
What's the round-trip latency on something that isn't terrestrial? For me, anything about 250ms and my ability to do work flatlines. (I work a lot with SIP and RTP.)
I work in telecom, and I think you might be a little needlessly pedantic here. For all intents and purposes, the ISPs for the VAST majority of the population of this country ARE the telcos and cable cos, which are also those same entities who own the last-mile. Either that or you just woke from a coma and think it's still the latter half of the 1990's... (and even THEN the last mile was still owned by the ILECs).
AT&T willfully and deliberately blocked Facetime because it competed with AT&T's own services. Comcast forged TCP RST's to kill bittorrent traffic they didn't like. Comcast & Verizon were shown in no uncertain terms to be deliberately throttling Netflix in order to make Netflix cough up more money. Given that Netflix competes with Comcast's and Verizon's own "home grown" services, this is explicitly why Network Neutrality was formalized. NN was the way the Internet basically had worked up until the point in time where these large incumbent monopolies did this.
Unfortunately they smell really bad when you try to burn them...
There wasn't a dire need to enforce net neutrality until those who own the last mile themselves became sources of content and wished to use their ownership of the last mile as a cudgel against the competition. Remember when Comcast injected RST's into the torrent streams? Remember when it could be fully replicated that the major ISP's were deliberately throttling Netflix for no reason other than extortion? You don't have to like torrents or Netflix or even Facebooks and Twitters to see why there needs to be full separation between "those whose mundane job it is is to move bits across wires and radio waves" and "those who serve up $content".
What I find sadly amusing about all this is that Pai is deflecting by attacking social media, and the POTUS has a Twitter appliance rectally fitted...
With all this talk of Net Neutrality around here, it's no wonder we're all so Ajitated.
My ex-wife is a life insurance actuary, and her primary hammer is excel. The problem is that when all you have is a hammer, everything is a nail. You wouldn't imagine how aggravating it is trying to coordinate child visitation schedules by passing around monolithic spreadsheets because she refuses - just absolutely refuses to the point even her current husband can't convince her otherwise - to use some calendaring solution that uses iCal... Hell she has a google account and won't use a shared google calendar I set up for this exact purpose. And as for her work as an actuary, I know they very often make use of spreadsheets that are in the hundreds of megabytes and macroed/scripted up the wazoo. I wonder if anybody actually has any idea if these spreadsheets are still accurate and effective for their stated purposes after several years.