That's got to be the dumbest thing that I've heard of. I hope you're being sarcastic. No system is even remotely safe without physical security. I can guarantee to you that I can hack nearly any computer ever invented if I can get access to it physically.
Funny? Not really. While thriftway isn't a branch of the government, the government could easily seize the database from them and add it to their own. How long before there are laws that force companies like thriftway to allow the FBI to search the database as often as they like? How long before companies like Thriftway are forced to send database updates directly to the FBI?
Think it can't happen? Take a look at the Patriot Act. Did you hear the President's speech? Did you happen to catch his statements about improving IT infrastructure for law inforcement? If you have nothing to hide, then you shouldn't be worried. Right?
I agree, it is my responsibility. Do you have any idea how to accomplish that? We monitor connections for suspicious activity. We watch logs of bouncebacks. When we get abuse reports, we investigate them thoroughly. We forward the abuse reports to the admin in question and they either ignore it or have no idea how to fix the problem. If they ask for help, we give them what help we can. If we keep getting abuse reports, we shut the account down.
Usually at this point, someone in management gets an angry email from the account threatening to quit and I get the directive to re-enable the account and I can't convince them other wise. Rinse, repeat.
What exactly would you have me do differently? We've discussed the ability to block outgoing port 25, but nobody in the front office wants to go for it. I for one welcome a law that finally allows me to enforce some filtering without getting fired for it.
Thanks. Do you honestly think that any ISP's admin gets to make revenue decisions? If I started shutting off customers because they are inept netadmins, I'll get fired. What good will that do. The only way that it's going to change is if the government makes the ISP liable for spam sent from it's ISP block. When that happens, technologies that can stop the spam cold will finally start to seem cost effective and rational. Only then will the bigwigs that get to make the decisions start allowing admins like me to block the spam directly of disable the offender's account.
I'm not talking dialup users, we already disable their accounts when we see suspicious activity, I'm refering to big corporate customers. You know, the type that should know better. The ones that pay over $1000/month for their internet access.
I suspect that many small ISP's will simply go out of business if they're held responsible. How about holding the spammers themselves responsible? In the end you'll be able to have AOL, Earthlink, or Comcast. Is that what you want?
Thanks. Do you honestly think that any ISP's admin gets to make revenue decisions. If I started shutting off customers because they are inept netadmins, I'll get fired. What good will that do. The only way that it's going to change is if the government makes the ISP liable for spam sent from it's ISP block. When that happens, technologies that can stop the spam cold will finally start to seem cost effective and rational.
I suspect that many small ISP's will simply go out of business if it happens. In the end you'll be able to have AOL, Earthlink, or Comcast. Is that what you want?
It's not even necessarily the ISP. I know that my mail servers aren't being used by spammers because I monitor them carefully. We have corporate customers that run their own email servers on our IP blocks that are overrun. We try to work with them to close down open relays or even suspend accounts when they seem unwilling or unable to stop spamming, but there's only so much we are able or willing to do to shut down a clueless netadmin's mail server.
In the end, they'll go somewhere else to spam and we'll lose the revenue.
WHich just so happens to prove the submitter is wrong in his assumption that any geek would actually click the "Unsubscribe" link. Any geek that displays external images or clicks on such a link needs to have his head examined unless he or she actually wants more spam.
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I know that you're trying to be funny, but you may be more right than you know. Why do we automatically assume that most of the people being let go are actually technology workers? The vast majority of those people being laid off are probably regular Joe, non high-tech workers. Some of which are will probably be fine pushing paper elsewhere.
It's always a sad thing when someone gets laid off, but it's been a long time coming at AOL. They've been hemorraging money and, IMHO, being irresponsible with their money by not cutting costs and downsizing.
Got a spare kidney? At today's rates, you could sell a kidney and half of your liver and afford it pretty easily. Of course, you may not pass the physical...
If it was a trip to the moon where I could hop around a bit and maybe spend a couple of hours exploring the rocks and craters, it'd be worth it.
Even if you could spend a day or so in orbit floating peacefully, it'd seem like a bit better use of $100,000. I'm sorry, I just can't see this as more than another play toy for the ultra-rich. Sure, the technology will benefit mankind some day, but it's merely an interesting drop in the bucket today.
Oops. That was a misquote. Thank you for pointing it out. It was unintentional.
To counter it, you've decided to intentionally misquote and misrepresent other bible quotes and belittle them. Ok. You win. You're the bigger person for it.
No, Christ doesn't mention that sort of thing specifically that I remember. I think that that Fallwell and Robertson were referring to the Old Testament. There are numerous examples of God destroying heathen nations and Cities in the Old Testament. Anyone remember Sodom? The same Sodom that is the root word for sodomy?
Christ does mention homosexuality in the strongest terms: Leviticus 18:22 "You shall not lie with a male as with a woman; such thing is an abomination." He also mentions harming children in very strong terms: Matthew 18:5 "But whoso shall offend one of these little ones which believe in me, it were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and that he were drowned in the depth of the sea."
Fallwell and Robertson were just expressing the opinion that the people of the US have turned away from God and we no longer have favor in his eyes. They're welcome to their opinion.
That alone is a powerful and elegant argument that some of these virus writers are in the business. I've long suspected that some of the smarter members of the antivirus teams are actually writing worms and viruses.
Arsonists and firebugs like to watch firemen put out their fires. Is it really a stretch to apply that behavior to digital firestarters?
With the right size engine, you can make anything fly. This isn't a demonstration of how well the "Enterprise" could fly. It's a demonstration of how you can make even a brick fly with the right thrust to weight ratio.
I like Star Trek as well as the next geek, but this is just plain silly.
Do you honestly think that there isn't an arms race going on right now?
What do you mean, trigger? China, North Korea, Lybia, Pakistan, India, etc., etc., etc.
The arms race never stopped, it just switched focus. Sure, Mutually Assured Destruction is a great way to deter a strike, but should we rely on it? What happens when North Korea decides that they have nothing left to lose and attack South Korea? Do you honestly think that they are going to hold back because the US might retaliate with nukes? We would certainly retaliate with overwhelming force, but the political climate in the US would almost certainly not allow us to retaliate in kind with nuclear weapons.
It sure would be nice to have another option and possibly avoid those millions of deaths in the first place.
Oh, how I wish I had mod points to mod the parent up for this.
I do tech support for 3 different school districts. In my experience, the biggest problem is that teachers rarely have the computer knowledge to use utilize any new technology. Of the 150 or so teachers, perhaps 4 or 5 understand what a network is. Perhaps 2 of those would be able to leverage the new technology into something beneficial for the children.
Why spend $1300+ for a new laptop for each child when you're only going to use it as a glorified e-book? Sure they are capable of much more, but does an elementary school have the resources and support necessary to utilize them?
We get technology grants all the time. It seems that the money for new technology is there, but it is never accompanied by the training money or staffing dollars to implement it. The school is expected to pay for that. How does a school that barely has enough money to pay their teachers come up with money to pay the technical support for that many laptops.
Since you represent less than 1/10th of 1% of the population, I'm sure they'll get right on it.
Let's face it, teenagers make up a very large percentage music consumers. When was the last time you spent $15 on a CD? I can't remember the last time I paid for any music or even listened to a radio station that played new music. The vast majority of music listeners on any age use MP3s or CD's. Why not cater to those people first? It just doesn't make sound business sense to cater to the minority.
With that being said, I'd be much happier myself if they'd support all music formats.
Not only is this not a surprise, it's a non-starter.
So what? There were several new vulnerabilities that were identified by Microsoft before there were any exploits for them. Microsoft has also owned up to the fact that the exploits exist at all. Sounds to me like their new focus on security is working correctly.
Yes, they are severe problems for a home user if they don't get patched, but most networks aren't really in jeopardy at all unless they aren't running some sort of network security. I can patch my servers at my leisure and reboot whenever I have time.
My only complaint is that the windows update site has been running quite slowly today.
I don't think that the problem lies in the patent or the copyright itself. The problem lies in the process.
The US patent office simply provides a patent for nearly all applications. If you can afford the fee, you can get a patent. You are responsible to enforece your own patent. Thus other patent holders are also responsible to prove that there was prior art that nullifies your patent. The US patent office should simply deny all patents of ideas and processes. An applicant should be required to show a working product or design that can at least be modeled. Ideas and processes are simply to brad to enforce.
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No, they would sue to attach her future wages and to make an example out of her.
The RIAA has never been above scare tactics to get their way.
That's got to be the dumbest thing that I've heard of. I hope you're being sarcastic. No system is even remotely safe without physical security. I can guarantee to you that I can hack nearly any computer ever invented if I can get access to it physically.
Funny? Not really. While thriftway isn't a branch of the government, the government could easily seize the database from them and add it to their own. How long before there are laws that force companies like thriftway to allow the FBI to search the database as often as they like? How long before companies like Thriftway are forced to send database updates directly to the FBI?
Think it can't happen? Take a look at the Patriot Act. Did you hear the President's speech? Did you happen to catch his statements about improving IT infrastructure for law inforcement? If you have nothing to hide, then you shouldn't be worried. Right?
I agree, it is my responsibility. Do you have any idea how to accomplish that? We monitor connections for suspicious activity. We watch logs of bouncebacks. When we get abuse reports, we investigate them thoroughly. We forward the abuse reports to the admin in question and they either ignore it or have no idea how to fix the problem. If they ask for help, we give them what help we can. If we keep getting abuse reports, we shut the account down.
Usually at this point, someone in management gets an angry email from the account threatening to quit and I get the directive to re-enable the account and I can't convince them other wise. Rinse, repeat.
What exactly would you have me do differently? We've discussed the ability to block outgoing port 25, but nobody in the front office wants to go for it. I for one welcome a law that finally allows me to enforce some filtering without getting fired for it.
Thanks. Do you honestly think that any ISP's admin gets to make revenue decisions? If I started shutting off customers because they are inept netadmins, I'll get fired. What good will that do. The only way that it's going to change is if the government makes the ISP liable for spam sent from it's ISP block. When that happens, technologies that can stop the spam cold will finally start to seem cost effective and rational. Only then will the bigwigs that get to make the decisions start allowing admins like me to block the spam directly of disable the offender's account.
I'm not talking dialup users, we already disable their accounts when we see suspicious activity, I'm refering to big corporate customers. You know, the type that should know better. The ones that pay over $1000/month for their internet access.
I suspect that many small ISP's will simply go out of business if they're held responsible. How about holding the spammers themselves responsible? In the end you'll be able to have AOL, Earthlink, or Comcast. Is that what you want?
Thanks. Do you honestly think that any ISP's admin gets to make revenue decisions. If I started shutting off customers because they are inept netadmins, I'll get fired. What good will that do. The only way that it's going to change is if the government makes the ISP liable for spam sent from it's ISP block. When that happens, technologies that can stop the spam cold will finally start to seem cost effective and rational. I suspect that many small ISP's will simply go out of business if it happens. In the end you'll be able to have AOL, Earthlink, or Comcast. Is that what you want?
It's not even necessarily the ISP. I know that my mail servers aren't being used by spammers because I monitor them carefully. We have corporate customers that run their own email servers on our IP blocks that are overrun. We try to work with them to close down open relays or even suspend accounts when they seem unwilling or unable to stop spamming, but there's only so much we are able or willing to do to shut down a clueless netadmin's mail server.
In the end, they'll go somewhere else to spam and we'll lose the revenue.
WHich just so happens to prove the submitter is wrong in his assumption that any geek would actually click the "Unsubscribe" link. Any geek that displays external images or clicks on such a link needs to have his head examined unless he or she actually wants more spam.
I know that you're trying to be funny, but you may be more right than you know. Why do we automatically assume that most of the people being let go are actually technology workers? The vast majority of those people being laid off are probably regular Joe, non high-tech workers. Some of which are will probably be fine pushing paper elsewhere.
It's always a sad thing when someone gets laid off, but it's been a long time coming at AOL. They've been hemorraging money and, IMHO, being irresponsible with their money by not cutting costs and downsizing.
Got a spare kidney? At today's rates, you could sell a kidney and half of your liver and afford it pretty easily. Of course, you may not pass the physical...
If it was a trip to the moon where I could hop around a bit and maybe spend a couple of hours exploring the rocks and craters, it'd be worth it.
Even if you could spend a day or so in orbit floating peacefully, it'd seem like a bit better use of $100,000. I'm sorry, I just can't see this as more than another play toy for the ultra-rich. Sure, the technology will benefit mankind some day, but it's merely an interesting drop in the bucket today.
I figure I can save up $100,000 by only eating out once a week or so..... for the next 400 years.
It sounds neat and all, but I think I'll wait until it costs around $10,000 total. Hopefully I won't be too old by then.
Oops. That was a misquote. Thank you for pointing it out. It was unintentional.
To counter it, you've decided to intentionally misquote and misrepresent other bible quotes and belittle them. Ok. You win. You're the bigger person for it.
Christ?
No, Christ doesn't mention that sort of thing specifically that I remember. I think that that Fallwell and Robertson were referring to the Old Testament. There are numerous examples of God destroying heathen nations and Cities in the Old Testament. Anyone remember Sodom? The same Sodom that is the root word for sodomy?
Christ does mention homosexuality in the strongest terms: Leviticus 18:22 "You shall not lie with a male as with a woman; such thing is an abomination."
He also mentions harming children in very strong terms: Matthew 18:5 "But whoso shall offend one of these little ones which believe in me, it were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and that he were drowned in the depth of the sea."
Fallwell and Robertson were just expressing the opinion that the people of the US have turned away from God and we no longer have favor in his eyes.
They're welcome to their opinion.
Pretty scarry. ??
Quite an ironic misspelling.
That alone is a powerful and elegant argument that some of these virus writers are in the business. I've long suspected that some of the smarter members of the antivirus teams are actually writing worms and viruses.
Arsonists and firebugs like to watch firemen put out their fires. Is it really a stretch to apply that behavior to digital firestarters?
So says the anonymous coward with aboslutely no facts to support his/her position.
Good trolling, I fell for the bait.
Isn't the whole "asteroid impact" scenario a theory? Doesn't that make this new theory a theory based on a theory?
We're getting kind of thin here.
With the right size engine, you can make anything fly. This isn't a demonstration of how well the "Enterprise" could fly. It's a demonstration of how you can make even a brick fly with the right thrust to weight ratio.
I like Star Trek as well as the next geek, but this is just plain silly.
Now, where can I get one???
It's easy to tell when slashdotters know nothing about a particular subject.
We get to read lame joke after lame joke.
Do you honestly think that there isn't an arms race going on right now?
What do you mean, trigger?
China, North Korea, Lybia, Pakistan, India, etc., etc., etc.
The arms race never stopped, it just switched focus. Sure, Mutually Assured Destruction is a great way to deter a strike, but should we rely on it? What happens when North Korea decides that they have nothing left to lose and attack South Korea? Do you honestly think that they are going to hold back because the US might retaliate with nukes? We would certainly retaliate with overwhelming force, but the political climate in the US would almost certainly not allow us to retaliate in kind with nuclear weapons.
It sure would be nice to have another option and possibly avoid those millions of deaths in the first place.
Oh, how I wish I had mod points to mod the parent up for this.
I do tech support for 3 different school districts. In my experience, the biggest problem is that teachers rarely have the computer knowledge to use utilize any new technology. Of the 150 or so teachers, perhaps 4 or 5 understand what a network is. Perhaps 2 of those would be able to leverage the new technology into something beneficial for the children.
Why spend $1300+ for a new laptop for each child when you're only going to use it as a glorified e-book? Sure they are capable of much more, but does an elementary school have the resources and support necessary to utilize them?
We get technology grants all the time. It seems that the money for new technology is there, but it is never accompanied by the training money or staffing dollars to implement it. The school is expected to pay for that. How does a school that barely has enough money to pay their teachers come up with money to pay the technical support for that many laptops.
Since you represent less than 1/10th of 1% of the population, I'm sure they'll get right on it.
Let's face it, teenagers make up a very large percentage music consumers.
When was the last time you spent $15 on a CD? I can't remember the last time I paid for any music or even listened to a radio station that played new music. The vast majority of music listeners on any age use MP3s or CD's. Why not cater to those people first? It just doesn't make sound business sense to cater to the minority.
With that being said, I'd be much happier myself if they'd support all music formats.
Not only is this not a surprise, it's a non-starter.
So what? There were several new vulnerabilities that were identified by Microsoft before there were any exploits for them. Microsoft has also owned up to the fact that the exploits exist at all. Sounds to me like their new focus on security is working correctly.
Yes, they are severe problems for a home user if they don't get patched, but most networks aren't really in jeopardy at all unless they aren't running some sort of network security. I can patch my servers at my leisure and reboot whenever I have time.
My only complaint is that the windows update site has been running quite slowly today.
I don't think that the problem lies in the patent or the copyright itself. The problem lies in the process.
The US patent office simply provides a patent for nearly all applications. If you can afford the fee, you can get a patent. You are responsible to enforece your own patent. Thus other patent holders are also responsible to prove that there was prior art that nullifies your patent. The US patent office should simply deny all patents of ideas and processes. An applicant should be required to show a working product or design that can at least be modeled. Ideas and processes are simply to brad to enforce.