Somehow I don't think a talking head on TV making a joke is proof of someones qualification. Unless you're a Republican, then it's all the proof you need.
In my view of the industry when someone says IT I think of the technical support, admin and sys planning teams. The ones who make the systems work and keep working.
Programmers and the such, I put in the developers group. Graphic designers, html jockeys or software developers. The ones who make what people see on their desktops look pretty.
You dont call someone who washes your car and gives it a bit of a polish a mechanic would you?
Seriously, I call them "developers" to differentiate them from people who actually know something about the hardware and the OS.
I tried them for about a week. Same thing, a tiny little strip was in focus, but the byproduct was major distortion around it. Walking up to a double door, instead of a large square i saw a constantly shifting parallelogram. Gave me major motion sickness.
But there are free remote management utilities included with every Linux distro.
Its called ssh.
Adn how long would it take me to SSH into 40,000 desktops to update Adobe Reader 8 to Adobe Reader 9, because there is some new feature that someone decided we just have to implement?
How long to copy the browser link to 40,000 desktops to comply with a mandatory ethics reporting plan we had to put in place? How long to patch 40,000 kernels for a security hole that must be resolved within 72 hours due to Corporate Information Security policy?
you guys that complain about heavy handed IT policies don't realize, that we don't even drive a lot of this stuff. If it was an IT idea, no one would ever give us the money we need to buy these tools. It's all driven from the top down.
Just be glad you're not using Lotus Notes. We've got a crew of IBM'ers running around right now fucking up a perfectly good Exchange environment to install their god-awful unreliable bug-filled piece of crap on 40,000 desktops.
Most people who think Fox News is an arm of the GOP, are comfortable getting their news from multiple sources, CNN, BBC, CBS, NBC, etcetera, EXCEPT for Fox News.
while most people who think Fox News is Fair and Balanced(tm) are of the opinion that all other mainstream media are "in the tank" for whomever they are hating that week, and are NOT to be trusted. this magnifies the echo chamber effect, since they are unable or unwilling to consider opposing viewpoints.
What's worse, is they incorrectly assume that everyone else must think like they do, and all other news outlets are as shrill and partisan as Fox is, because they have nothing to compare to.
Having company sponsored childcare doesn't mean other employees are getting paid less, is just means the stockholders are not seeing as big of a profit as they could have. If Google really had to pay less because of childcare then they wouldn't be able to get anyone good, especially the childless - they'd all go to higher paying companies, wouldn't they?
For employees without children it certainly does mean they get paid less unless the company puts that added compensation/benefit it costs them for providing that care for people with children directly onto their salary in cold hard cash.
so, if I don't wear glasses, no one should have eye care?
If I don't have any health problems, no one should get a medical plan?
If my parents are rich, no one should get social security?
Christ, do you people have any concept of what "society" actually is? Maybe we should all go back to living in caves, and the person with the best spear aim gets all the meat, and everyone else starves.
And yes, in most companies I've worked in, you get a certain amount of benefit dollars, to use as you see fit, and if you don't use them all, you get a credit on your pay. But it still doesn't subsidize the entire cost.
The whole point of shared benefits, or car insurance for that matter, is that you average out the cost for some peoples care amongst the whole pool, resulting in lower average costs for everyone. The "value added" is that these people don't go bankrupt, default on their mortgages, clog up emergency rooms for minor illnesses, become criminals and rob others to support themselves, or otherwise become a burden on society. (and by "burden" I mean "cost". You're either going to pay up front to help them, or pay at the end to deal with them.)
That's a concept you either believe in, or you don't. If you don't, then go ahead and opt out. If you ever find yourself or your children with cancer or a serious illness, well you can just take a couple aspirin and go to bed until you feel better.
What's that? You don't have any paid sick days? Aww, that's too bad. Maybe we should have forced euthanasia for people who can't take care of themselves? Fuck 'em if they can't make it on their own.
Why in blazes should people who don't have kids, or who responsibly make arrangements for them to be cared for (such as *gasp* having Mom stay home and actually raise them), have to pay in the form of a lower salary for yours?
And a reduction in this silly benefit that you shouldn't have in the first place is age discrimination against you?
another happy John McCain voter:')
Republican motto: I got mine, fuck you.
This is obviously what a tax system is supposed to do.
There are quite a few economists who would care to differ with that statement. A progressive tax (and welfare) system such as the one we have provides a degree of disincentive against earning more money, because the more money you earn, the greater percentage of it you pay to the government. In some places, such as France, it's so bad that for many people, it's more profitable to live off welfare than to work.
While the main purpose of taxes is to fund government, it should also be structured so as to encourage people to become more productive and contribute more to the economy. Unbalancing the tax system beyond its current state will do precisely the opposite.
Yes, I'm sure if Bill Gates had any idea how much money he'd end up making I'm sure he'd have just said "fuck it" and taken a job at McDonalds. Poor bastard.
That's true. Not all "Red-state" people are over-religious, or even religious at all. Often they share moral standards, but most often we just share a desire for the government to stay out of our lives!
Yes, we don't want government to tell us that we can't terminate our pregnancies, smoke some marijuana for our cancer, end our own lives painlessly when terminally ill, have a homosexual relationship, call the police on our crazy neighbor with the collection of assault rifles... oh, wait.
The moronic IT persons are already saying crap like "the email belongs to the company, not you". Perhaps the computer on which I wrote them does, but *I* have written those emails, therefore they belong to me also.
I have always archived everything I wrote and every document I produced in my work on an external hard drive, that I took with me when I switched jobs. I have the first piece of email of my first job, 10 years ago. I have everything, but that's only for my personal use and reference. There is a value to me in archiving it. Nobody can prevent me from archiving emails that *I* wrote or received. Nobody. And nobody can force me to hand over those. I will destroy them if I have to.
Oh, and f^@k the IT people.
Ya know, it's people like you that make life difficult for the rest of us that are just following the rules set out for us by the people above. I'll bet you're a developer, right? Therefore you walk on water, and we should all bow before your mighty brain.
Have fun in pound-me-in-the-ass prison after you're cited for contempt of court, you asshole.
I am one of those long-time WiFi zealots, and it is clear to me that people just don't want free ubiquitous wireless internet -- or they just don't care.
Here in Pittsburgh, there is occasional talk of some group trying to do this.
Oh, I wanted it, I just didn't want it enough to pay the monthly fee for it, and signing up every other day for two free hours to use it for ten minutes was an aggravation. I have internet at work, but needed to get around my corp firewall to support my moonlighting:')
If I could have got a deal for a pay-as-you-go plan for a reasonable price I'd have taken it. Then I moved to a different building and couldn't get a signal anymore. So I threw up a Linux box at home listening to SSH on port 443, and tunnel out from work using Putty. I just look like encrypted web traffic to the corp security folks.
I don't think you can call a Big Mac a "hamburger" - it's more like a meat-filled savory-flavored Krispy Kreme donut.
I'm with the previous poster, I think they make them with crack.
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and not to be a tremoundous nit-picker, but for 100% true data protection you can't rely just on what type of RAID set you employe. A tested backup/restore process must be put in place, anything less and you risk data loss.
Absolutely. RAID isn't meant to do anything except maximize uptime. If a user deletes a whole subdirectory, it isn't going to matter what version of RAID you're running.
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raid 10 is a waist of disks and power
raid6 is the way to go
A waist of disks and power, what is that, like a utility belt for nerds?
Our laptops are all full disk encrypted. Have been for almost two years. All laptops and desktops are firewalled. We aren't allowed to burn CDs of data for users unless they encrypt them. All USB and removable devices were supposed to be encrypted last year, but the software was crap, and after we merged with BoNY (got boned, you might say) it got put on the back burner.
My admin ID password expires EVERY TEN DAYS. I'm not allowed to stay logged in with it, I need to do a runas to administer things from my desk. Our PC local admin password changes quarterly, and we aren't allowed to have it unless we request it from our manager, who has to log who he gives it to.
lan admins aren't allowed anywhere near servers, server support folks aren't allowed to add users to groups. the IT access control group manages all IDs. (they suck at it, but that's a story for another day)
Jobs are siloed to the point where no one is allowed to do anything outside their own little slice of the pie. (A side effect of that is that there's no way to advance, because if they need more staff, they have to hire contractors, since no one internally is qualified.)
Our old PC's are inventoried, sent in a locked, sealed truck to a disposal company to be shredded. We sent an auditor one time to FOLLOW THE TRUCK to Connecticut or somewhere, can't remember the exact city, to make sure it was being transported safely/
Believe me, Mellon is so fucking paranoid, it's not even funny. Now Bank of New York, I don't know about. I'm not sure which entity was responsible for this data. I'm curious actually.
I don't know why the tapes weren't encrypted, but it wasn't for lack of enthusiasm.
So, what exactly is an "Infrastructure Library process framework"? How do you define "service management"?
Why are you capitalizing random words as if they are divine concepts, such as "Incidents, Problems and Changes?"
We Slashdotters tend to appreciate posts that contain information, not management buzzword doublespeak. Do you have a 6-Sigma black belt, too? Ahh, you must not have had the pleasure of being indoctrinated into the latest Six Sigma-ISO9000-Corporate Bullshit buzzword land of ITIL. Basically a way for large Independent Software Vendors to come in and sell you a shiny new helpdesk ticket system, (because your old one isn't ITIL compliant) and charge you for a half-dozen Cognizant or Infosys contractors to customize it to the point where you can't figure out even how to open a ticket, making you wonder why you ever got rid of the old system which you used to think sucked until you got a look at this new abortion.
See, users used to call you with problems. that's your first mistake. What they are really calling about is Incidents. After you Identify and Record the Incident, you send it off for Investigation and Diagnosis. Then if you're lucky, you can move it to Resolution and Recovery. If you can't fix the Incident, it becomes a Problem. After you identify the Problem, you can schedule a Change.
This explanation was all mixed up with some analogy about cars and car companies in the class I had, that confused me a little. And there was no demo of the software at the time because the QA environment kept crashing, and we couldn't log in, so when it went live no one had any idea what the fuck to do with it. And the user interface has more tabs in it than agent Mulder's filing cabinet, and they make about as much sense, and the program won't let you open a ticket unless they are all filled in correctly, but it doesn't really tell you what to fill in, it just keeps giving you incomprehensible error messages.
This article couldn't have better timing as I just inherited around 110 Juniper firewalls today. Wow. Most people just have mutual funds in their retirement accounts.
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Somehow I don't think a talking head on TV making a joke is proof of someones qualification. Unless you're a Republican, then it's all the proof you need.
Exactly. It's the Streisand effect applied to security
In my view of the industry when someone says IT I think of the technical support, admin and sys planning teams. The ones who make the systems work and keep working.
Programmers and the such, I put in the developers group. Graphic designers, html jockeys or software developers. The ones who make what people see on their desktops look pretty.
You dont call someone who washes your car and gives it a bit of a polish a mechanic would you?
Seriously, I call them "developers" to differentiate them from people who actually know something about the hardware and the OS.
Hey, Welcome to Lotus Notes 8!
I tried them for about a week. Same thing, a tiny little strip was in focus, but the byproduct was major distortion around it. Walking up to a double door, instead of a large square i saw a constantly shifting parallelogram. Gave me major motion sickness.
But there are free remote management utilities included with every Linux distro. Its called ssh.
Adn how long would it take me to SSH into 40,000 desktops to update Adobe Reader 8 to Adobe Reader 9, because there is some new feature that someone decided we just have to implement?
How long to copy the browser link to 40,000 desktops to comply with a mandatory ethics reporting plan we had to put in place? How long to patch 40,000 kernels for a security hole that must be resolved within 72 hours due to Corporate Information Security policy?
you guys that complain about heavy handed IT policies don't realize, that we don't even drive a lot of this stuff. If it was an IT idea, no one would ever give us the money we need to buy these tools. It's all driven from the top down.
"Yes, because everything that isn't done manually is inauthentic"
How do you do non-manual singing?
Boy, if there was ever a more blindingly obvious use for RTFA.........
Just be glad you're not using Lotus Notes. We've got a crew of IBM'ers running around right now fucking up a perfectly good Exchange environment to install their god-awful unreliable bug-filled piece of crap on 40,000 desktops.
Ha ha ah ha ha ha ah ha ha ha ha!!!!!!!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Accuracy_in_Media
http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Accuracy_in_Media
http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2002/6/25/173/40630
Because it's widely known that Walter Cronkite was a Soviet dupe, and Richard Mellon Scaife and Joe McCarthy are/were upstanding heroic Americans.
As opposed to the other completely neutral news organizations..right.
See my post above. Point proven
Most people who think Fox News is an arm of the GOP, are comfortable getting their news from multiple sources, CNN, BBC, CBS, NBC, etcetera, EXCEPT for Fox News.
while most people who think Fox News is Fair and Balanced(tm) are of the opinion that all other mainstream media are "in the tank" for whomever they are hating that week, and are NOT to be trusted. this magnifies the echo chamber effect, since they are unable or unwilling to consider opposing viewpoints.
What's worse, is they incorrectly assume that everyone else must think like they do, and all other news outlets are as shrill and partisan as Fox is, because they have nothing to compare to.
Dude, that's not a trick.
Having company sponsored childcare doesn't mean other employees are getting paid less, is just means the stockholders are not seeing as big of a profit as they could have. If Google really had to pay less because of childcare then they wouldn't be able to get anyone good, especially the childless - they'd all go to higher paying companies, wouldn't they?
For employees without children it certainly does mean they get paid less unless the company puts that added compensation/benefit it costs them for providing that care for people with children directly onto their salary in cold hard cash.
so, if I don't wear glasses, no one should have eye care?
If I don't have any health problems, no one should get a medical plan?
If my parents are rich, no one should get social security?
Christ, do you people have any concept of what "society" actually is? Maybe we should all go back to living in caves, and the person with the best spear aim gets all the meat, and everyone else starves. And yes, in most companies I've worked in, you get a certain amount of benefit dollars, to use as you see fit, and if you don't use them all, you get a credit on your pay. But it still doesn't subsidize the entire cost.
The whole point of shared benefits, or car insurance for that matter, is that you average out the cost for some peoples care amongst the whole pool, resulting in lower average costs for everyone. The "value added" is that these people don't go bankrupt, default on their mortgages, clog up emergency rooms for minor illnesses, become criminals and rob others to support themselves, or otherwise become a burden on society. (and by "burden" I mean "cost". You're either going to pay up front to help them, or pay at the end to deal with them.)
That's a concept you either believe in, or you don't. If you don't, then go ahead and opt out. If you ever find yourself or your children with cancer or a serious illness, well you can just take a couple aspirin and go to bed until you feel better.
What's that? You don't have any paid sick days? Aww, that's too bad. Maybe we should have forced euthanasia for people who can't take care of themselves? Fuck 'em if they can't make it on their own.
Why in blazes should people who don't have kids, or who responsibly make arrangements for them to be cared for (such as *gasp* having Mom stay home and actually raise them), have to pay in the form of a lower salary for yours?
And a reduction in this silly benefit that you shouldn't have in the first place is age discrimination against you?
another happy John McCain voter :')
Republican motto: I got mine, fuck you.
This is obviously what a tax system is supposed to do. There are quite a few economists who would care to differ with that statement. A progressive tax (and welfare) system such as the one we have provides a degree of disincentive against earning more money, because the more money you earn, the greater percentage of it you pay to the government. In some places, such as France, it's so bad that for many people, it's more profitable to live off welfare than to work. While the main purpose of taxes is to fund government, it should also be structured so as to encourage people to become more productive and contribute more to the economy. Unbalancing the tax system beyond its current state will do precisely the opposite.
Yes, I'm sure if Bill Gates had any idea how much money he'd end up making I'm sure he'd have just said "fuck it" and taken a job at McDonalds. Poor bastard.
That's true. Not all "Red-state" people are over-religious, or even religious at all. Often they share moral standards, but most often we just share a desire for the government to stay out of our lives!
Yes, we don't want government to tell us that we can't terminate our pregnancies, smoke some marijuana for our cancer, end our own lives painlessly when terminally ill, have a homosexual relationship, call the police on our crazy neighbor with the collection of assault rifles... oh, wait.
The moronic IT persons are already saying crap like "the email belongs to the company, not you". Perhaps the computer on which I wrote them does, but *I* have written those emails, therefore they belong to me also.
I have always archived everything I wrote and every document I produced in my work on an external hard drive, that I took with me when I switched jobs. I have the first piece of email of my first job, 10 years ago. I have everything, but that's only for my personal use and reference. There is a value to me in archiving it. Nobody can prevent me from archiving emails that *I* wrote or received. Nobody. And nobody can force me to hand over those. I will destroy them if I have to.
Oh, and f^@k the IT people.
Ya know, it's people like you that make life difficult for the rest of us that are just following the rules set out for us by the people above. I'll bet you're a developer, right? Therefore you walk on water, and we should all bow before your mighty brain.
Have fun in pound-me-in-the-ass prison after you're cited for contempt of court, you asshole.
your friendly neighborhood IT person.
I am one of those long-time WiFi zealots, and it is clear to me that people just don't want free ubiquitous wireless internet -- or they just don't care. Here in Pittsburgh, there is occasional talk of some group trying to do this.
Oh, I wanted it, I just didn't want it enough to pay the monthly fee for it, and signing up every other day for two free hours to use it for ten minutes was an aggravation. I have internet at work, but needed to get around my corp firewall to support my moonlighting :')
If I could have got a deal for a pay-as-you-go plan for a reasonable price I'd have taken it. Then I moved to a different building and couldn't get a signal anymore. So I threw up a Linux box at home listening to SSH on port 443, and tunnel out from work using Putty. I just look like encrypted web traffic to the corp security folks.
I'm with the previous poster, I think they make them with crack.
and not to be a tremoundous nit-picker, but for 100% true data protection you can't rely just on what type of RAID set you employe. A tested backup/restore process must be put in place, anything less and you risk data loss.
Absolutely. RAID isn't meant to do anything except maximize uptime. If a user deletes a whole subdirectory, it isn't going to matter what version of RAID you're running.
raid6 is the way to go
A waist of disks and power, what is that, like a utility belt for nerds?
My admin ID password expires EVERY TEN DAYS. I'm not allowed to stay logged in with it, I need to do a runas to administer things from my desk. Our PC local admin password changes quarterly, and we aren't allowed to have it unless we request it from our manager, who has to log who he gives it to.
lan admins aren't allowed anywhere near servers, server support folks aren't allowed to add users to groups. the IT access control group manages all IDs. (they suck at it, but that's a story for another day)
Jobs are siloed to the point where no one is allowed to do anything outside their own little slice of the pie. (A side effect of that is that there's no way to advance, because if they need more staff, they have to hire contractors, since no one internally is qualified.)
Our old PC's are inventoried, sent in a locked, sealed truck to a disposal company to be shredded. We sent an auditor one time to FOLLOW THE TRUCK to Connecticut or somewhere, can't remember the exact city, to make sure it was being transported safely/
Believe me, Mellon is so fucking paranoid, it's not even funny. Now Bank of New York, I don't know about. I'm not sure which entity was responsible for this data. I'm curious actually.
I don't know why the tapes weren't encrypted, but it wasn't for lack of enthusiasm.
See, users used to call you with problems. that's your first mistake. What they are really calling about is Incidents. After you Identify and Record the Incident, you send it off for Investigation and Diagnosis. Then if you're lucky, you can move it to Resolution and Recovery. If you can't fix the Incident, it becomes a Problem. After you identify the Problem, you can schedule a Change.
This explanation was all mixed up with some analogy about cars and car companies in the class I had, that confused me a little. And there was no demo of the software at the time because the QA environment kept crashing, and we couldn't log in, so when it went live no one had any idea what the fuck to do with it. And the user interface has more tabs in it than agent Mulder's filing cabinet, and they make about as much sense, and the program won't let you open a ticket unless they are all filled in correctly, but it doesn't really tell you what to fill in, it just keeps giving you incomprehensible error messages.