Having the GOP control the entire government is bad on so many levels - and one of the worst is the constant shilling they do for corporations at the expense of individuals. The normality of our nerd lives is continually threatened by the Republican party.
Putting pressure on the press is something that I feel is incredibly important on this and every issue (The $700 Million is my favorite). Without forcing our message out to the mainstream press, we're just preaching to the choir here. I mean, what are free long-distance cell phone minutes for?
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Putting pressure on the press is something that I feel is incredibly important on this and every issue (The $700 million theft is my favorite). Without forcing our message out to the mainstream press, we're just preaching to the choir here. I mean, what are free long-distance cell phone minutes for?
Here are the numbers, followed by the extensions required to reach the comment line. For extensions not listed, you have to ask the human to leave a comment.
ABCNews - 818-460-7477... 4
CBSNews - 212-975-4321
CNN - 404-827-0234... #, 1
FoxNews - 888-369-4762... 7, 1
MSNBC - 201-583-5000
NBCNews - 201-583-5222
Unleash the blog-hordes.
Regardless of when the release time is, they make excellent points. I hate the fact that chosing an inoppourtune timing casts doubt on the results. What's more, it's not like we're in October, here. This is not a last-minute, obviously election-related item. We're still the better part of a year away! The timing of this report should not enter into the discussion.
Critique the MESSAGE, not the MESSENGER! Talk about the report itself, not the motivation for it.
You can find pictures of the documents in question, and notes regarding them. You can see comparisons of signatures that definately do not match, not to mention the fact that one of the officials who "signed" these documents had been dead for years. Additionally, the documents used are part of a beauracracy channel through which the sort of secrecy this would have required would be impossible. These are all facts that have since been acknowledged by the administration themselves! Do you think the administration would admit to them if there was any chance they could defend the position?
Perhaps you're right. I'm not Karl Rove. Maybe shooting himself in the foot rather than fighting the charge is the smart thing to do somehow. (cue dramatic music) Maybe by looking like an administration that doesn't mind using spurious intelligence to further its own long-held and warlike goals will clinch those swing Mongol Horde and Viking voters!
But, joking aside, if you can see a motivation for the administration to admit the documents are forged when they really aren't, I'd love to hear it. I'll be checking this message for your reply.
No, no... absolutely not. I think that it is a slightly complicated issue, but in general I agree with what you're saying. Given the intelligence they had recieved from a variety of sources, they knew that what they were saying was deeply dishonest. Depending on your definition of lie, some would call these statements lies. I would.
Others of my posts will indicate this, if you really care.
It's not the number of Americans that died that is most important, it's the number of innocents that died.
Our own soldiers who died were innocents, since they had nothing to do with the Administration's misdeeds in the lead-up to the war. Certainly, the Iraqi civilians were innocents, and they check in at above 10,000 by conservative estimates.
This is not to say that I think their deaths are more important somehow than ours. They are equal. We lost 3,000 in one day. They lost 10,000 in a couple of months. Neither group deserved it, and no one wins. Their country's infrastructure is devestated, and our national security was damaged. The hate that death instills lasts for generations.
Rapist? Interesting that he was never charged, given the zeal of the people investigating him. If a single woman had said that she had been raped, do you think it would be possible for him not to be charged?
Again, show me the evidence that any lying occurred. (about WMDs)
Have you read anything about the Ambassador Wilson Niger-Iraq-Uranium forgeries? Or the shelf-life of the WMDs that Saddam did have in the early 90s? Just do some Google searches and your opinion about the President's statements will change.
You haven't read your Heinlein, or your Feinmann.:)
There are more ways to lie than the simple type you describe. Think about it... a lie is something that conveys a falsehood while making its victim believe that it is true. Bush's statement was one which his Administration knew was false*, but which he couched as truth, again and again and again - not just in the State of the Union speech. If lies had not been told, how else would the vast majority of the American public (75%?) believe that actual weapons of mass destruction had been found in Iraq? Or that Iraq and bin Laden had ties?
*(Wilson proved to top Bush administration officials months before that there had been no such transaction between Iraq and Niger, and that the intelligence was based on forged documents. Forged by whom, I wonder?)
it's just that the two parties currently in power suck.
You might consider that may be the power that is the problem, and not necessarily the parties.
Maybe this year I'll do a write in.
This year, of all the years that I have been alive, is not the year to vote anything other than Democrat for the presidential and legislative elections. I personally vote largely Libertarian and Green in local elections, but this year's national election is a different thing. I don't think the decision could be clearer for me. I value the assurances of my civil rights, national security, and the economy. The Bush administration (more so than Bush himself) will continue their assault on my rights, stir up increasing hatred for America, and pass tax cuts giving money to the rich who will invest it in India, China, and Thailand. I don't think I've ever made an easier choice about anything. (Hmmmm... Tuna or turkey sandwich?)
A quick note about the the debate surrounding the "Is our country safer for having invaded Iraq" question. By conservative accounts, over 13,000 Iraqis died in the war, with the vast majority of those being civilians. Now say that those people only knew 20 other people well enough for those others to notice their death. Say 50% of those were saddened greatly. Say 50% of those were angered. With a little multiplication, that leaves 65,000 brand new potential terrorist recruits. Perhaps my numbers are off, but even if they are off by an order of magnitude, the number is still damning. And if you need further convincing that this might be happening, consider that less than 15% of Iraqis think of the American invasion as one of "liberation."
My plan: donate $5 to the democrat that gets nominated, and then campaign for them actively in your everyday life. To me, it feels like a patriotic duty, because I love my country too much to let our founder's vision slip that much further away.
It does make sense within our heads, actually. It's just another lexicon to become fluent in. Read enough and you'll be able to do it too. Actually, I find this lit stuff, grad level mathematics, and programming to be cut from the same cloth. It's just about the time you devote to it.
Our courts have been making some good decisions lately. The President is no longer allowed to hold US Citizens on US soil indefinately and without charges, the MA Courts ruled progressively on gay marriage, and now the RIAA is put in its place. Strike down the Patriot Act and the good old USA is almost back on track. Gotta love that glimmer of hope.
Shouldn't that be obvious? At least with the source available you know that they aren't doing something overtly immoral with their code like installing a porn server on your machine or using you to send spam. I agree that because you only have a portion of the source you can't be certain that negative things wont happen... but at least I'm protected from more than an annoyance. In the worst case scenario, I'll have to re-image the drive with a clean install as a result of poor interoperation between this patch an IE's closed source.
Thanks. I've patched my test system and it didn't even require a reboot! Windows has come so far... when you use as little MS software on it as possible.
Anyway, I've tested IE by running through some windows updates and going to a few exploit test sites. Everything has behaved as it should.
By the way, one of the joys of this patch is that when you browse to a site attempting the exploit, you get one of those nice IE error pages, formatted in the traditional way. Except, instead of seeing Microsoft branding all over it, the Openware patch is referenced. I don't know... having this little bit of OSS within IE warms my heart. And just in time for the holidays!
Oh yes... we're well aware of Plan 9. As a matter of fact, we lament it almost constantly. Correct me if I'm wrong, but there is no linux version of Plan 9. It's still an OS, right? I suppose that if I were convinced this was the only solution I could always throw another pair of servers into the mix.
I only mention the unreliable network because technically, it is. Just like any net connection that I've ever heard of, a T1 does not guarantee 100% uptime. We should see an uptime of greater than 99.98%.
The infrastructure is the hard part; with commodity packages like Samba client support is a much simpler seperate issue.
Exactly right. The client connections will all be done via samba... it's the infrastructure I'm asking about.
That being said, NFS4 seems to still be in development and we need something that is finished and ready for use now. Storage Tank sounds nice... but something tells me it's not free software. Free is good. Finally, AFS is the glory... but the documentation is horrible. We can find a number of how-tos, but they're all either out of date or useless. Have I missed one?
There is a T1 at either office, so they will be operating in connected mode the vast majority of the time. It's just that if the network connection breaks, I want to be able to rig up a way in which the network shares fail in a nice way. No crashes, no 5 minute timeouts for the users. And it'd be nice to be able to script the restoration of those network shares when the connection between the two servers is reestablished.
I actually want AFS because it does local caching of files. Here is the comment where I describe that.
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Having the GOP control the entire government is bad on so many levels - and one of the worst is the constant shilling they do for corporations at the expense of individuals. The normality of our nerd lives is continually threatened by the Republican party.
Putting pressure on the press is something that I feel is incredibly important on this and every issue (The $700 Million is my favorite). Without forcing our message out to the mainstream press, we're just preaching to the choir here. I mean, what are free long-distance cell phone minutes for?
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Here are the numbers, followed by the extensions required to reach the comment line. For extensions not listed, you have to ask the human to leave a comment.
ABCNews - 818-460-7477
CBSNews - 212-975-4321
CNN - 404-827-0234
FoxNews - 888-369-4762
MSNBC - 201-583-5000
NBCNews - 201-583-5222
Unleash the slash-hordes.
Putting pressure on the press is something that I feel is incredibly important on this and every issue (The $700 million theft is my favorite). Without forcing our message out to the mainstream press, we're just preaching to the choir here. I mean, what are free long-distance cell phone minutes for? Here are the numbers, followed by the extensions required to reach the comment line. For extensions not listed, you have to ask the human to leave a comment. ABCNews - 818-460-7477 ... 4
CBSNews - 212-975-4321
CNN - 404-827-0234 ... #, 1
FoxNews - 888-369-4762 ... 7, 1
MSNBC - 201-583-5000
NBCNews - 201-583-5222
Unleash the blog-hordes.
Regardless of when the release time is, they make excellent points. I hate the fact that chosing an inoppourtune timing casts doubt on the results. What's more, it's not like we're in October, here. This is not a last-minute, obviously election-related item. We're still the better part of a year away! The timing of this report should not enter into the discussion.
Critique the MESSAGE, not the MESSENGER! Talk about the report itself, not the motivation for it.
Imagine the latency on your SSH session while fixing Spirit. I thought 300ms was bad!
Do some googling for yourself, then. I'm sure the truth shall set you free.
You can find pictures of the documents in question, and notes regarding them. You can see comparisons of signatures that definately do not match, not to mention the fact that one of the officials who "signed" these documents had been dead for years. Additionally, the documents used are part of a beauracracy channel through which the sort of secrecy this would have required would be impossible. These are all facts that have since been acknowledged by the administration themselves! Do you think the administration would admit to them if there was any chance they could defend the position?
Perhaps you're right. I'm not Karl Rove. Maybe shooting himself in the foot rather than fighting the charge is the smart thing to do somehow. (cue dramatic music) Maybe by looking like an administration that doesn't mind using spurious intelligence to further its own long-held and warlike goals will clinch those swing Mongol Horde and Viking voters!
But, joking aside, if you can see a motivation for the administration to admit the documents are forged when they really aren't, I'd love to hear it. I'll be checking this message for your reply.
No, no... absolutely not. I think that it is a slightly complicated issue, but in general I agree with what you're saying. Given the intelligence they had recieved from a variety of sources, they knew that what they were saying was deeply dishonest. Depending on your definition of lie, some would call these statements lies. I would. Others of my posts will indicate this, if you really care.
It's not the number of Americans that died that is most important, it's the number of innocents that died.
Our own soldiers who died were innocents, since they had nothing to do with the Administration's misdeeds in the lead-up to the war. Certainly, the Iraqi civilians were innocents, and they check in at above 10,000 by conservative estimates.
This is not to say that I think their deaths are more important somehow than ours. They are equal. We lost 3,000 in one day. They lost 10,000 in a couple of months. Neither group deserved it, and no one wins. Their country's infrastructure is devestated, and our national security was damaged. The hate that death instills lasts for generations.
Rapist? Interesting that he was never charged, given the zeal of the people investigating him. If a single woman had said that she had been raped, do you think it would be possible for him not to be charged?
Again, show me the evidence that any lying occurred. (about WMDs)
Have you read anything about the Ambassador Wilson Niger-Iraq-Uranium forgeries? Or the shelf-life of the WMDs that Saddam did have in the early 90s? Just do some Google searches and your opinion about the President's statements will change.
You haven't read your Heinlein, or your Feinmann. :)
There are more ways to lie than the simple type you describe. Think about it... a lie is something that conveys a falsehood while making its victim believe that it is true. Bush's statement was one which his Administration knew was false*, but which he couched as truth, again and again and again - not just in the State of the Union speech. If lies had not been told, how else would the vast majority of the American public (75%?) believe that actual weapons of mass destruction had been found in Iraq? Or that Iraq and bin Laden had ties?
*(Wilson proved to top Bush administration officials months before that there had been no such transaction between Iraq and Niger, and that the intelligence was based on forged documents. Forged by whom, I wonder?)
it's just that the two parties currently in power suck.
You might consider that may be the power that is the problem, and not necessarily the parties.
Maybe this year I'll do a write in.
This year, of all the years that I have been alive, is not the year to vote anything other than Democrat for the presidential and legislative elections. I personally vote largely Libertarian and Green in local elections, but this year's national election is a different thing. I don't think the decision could be clearer for me. I value the assurances of my civil rights, national security, and the economy. The Bush administration (more so than Bush himself) will continue their assault on my rights, stir up increasing hatred for America, and pass tax cuts giving money to the rich who will invest it in India, China, and Thailand. I don't think I've ever made an easier choice about anything. (Hmmmm... Tuna or turkey sandwich?)
A quick note about the the debate surrounding the "Is our country safer for having invaded Iraq" question. By conservative accounts, over 13,000 Iraqis died in the war, with the vast majority of those being civilians. Now say that those people only knew 20 other people well enough for those others to notice their death. Say 50% of those were saddened greatly. Say 50% of those were angered. With a little multiplication, that leaves 65,000 brand new potential terrorist recruits. Perhaps my numbers are off, but even if they are off by an order of magnitude, the number is still damning. And if you need further convincing that this might be happening, consider that less than 15% of Iraqis think of the American invasion as one of "liberation."
My plan: donate $5 to the democrat that gets nominated, and then campaign for them actively in your everyday life. To me, it feels like a patriotic duty, because I love my country too much to let our founder's vision slip that much further away.
It does make sense within our heads, actually. It's just another lexicon to become fluent in. Read enough and you'll be able to do it too. Actually, I find this lit stuff, grad level mathematics, and programming to be cut from the same cloth. It's just about the time you devote to it.
Our courts have been making some good decisions lately. The President is no longer allowed to hold US Citizens on US soil indefinately and without charges, the MA Courts ruled progressively on gay marriage, and now the RIAA is put in its place. Strike down the Patriot Act and the good old USA is almost back on track. Gotta love that glimmer of hope.
The patch is working just fine for me. Didn't even need a reboot.
Shouldn't that be obvious? At least with the source available you know that they aren't doing something overtly immoral with their code like installing a porn server on your machine or using you to send spam. I agree that because you only have a portion of the source you can't be certain that negative things wont happen... but at least I'm protected from more than an annoyance. In the worst case scenario, I'll have to re-image the drive with a clean install as a result of poor interoperation between this patch an IE's closed source.
Thanks. I've patched my test system and it didn't even require a reboot! Windows has come so far... when you use as little MS software on it as possible.
Anyway, I've tested IE by running through some windows updates and going to a few exploit test sites. Everything has behaved as it should.
By the way, one of the joys of this patch is that when you browse to a site attempting the exploit, you get one of those nice IE error pages, formatted in the traditional way. Except, instead of seeing Microsoft branding all over it, the Openware patch is referenced. I don't know... having this little bit of OSS within IE warms my heart. And just in time for the holidays!
This is the kind of story that warms my heart. Thank god for Linux.
Oh yes... we're well aware of Plan 9. As a matter of fact, we lament it almost constantly. Correct me if I'm wrong, but there is no linux version of Plan 9. It's still an OS, right? I suppose that if I were convinced this was the only solution I could always throw another pair of servers into the mix.
Already done. All communication between sites is piped through a secure tunnel.
Right on the head.
The LAN is as stable as any switched network. It's the T1s connecting the sites that could conceivably go down and back up.
I only mention the unreliable network because technically, it is. Just like any net connection that I've ever heard of, a T1 does not guarantee 100% uptime. We should see an uptime of greater than 99.98%.
The infrastructure is the hard part; with commodity packages like Samba client support is a much simpler seperate issue.
Exactly right. The client connections will all be done via samba... it's the infrastructure I'm asking about.
That being said, NFS4 seems to still be in development and we need something that is finished and ready for use now. Storage Tank sounds nice... but something tells me it's not free software. Free is good. Finally, AFS is the glory... but the documentation is horrible. We can find a number of how-tos, but they're all either out of date or useless. Have I missed one?
There is a T1 at either office, so they will be operating in connected mode the vast majority of the time. It's just that if the network connection breaks, I want to be able to rig up a way in which the network shares fail in a nice way. No crashes, no 5 minute timeouts for the users. And it'd be nice to be able to script the restoration of those network shares when the connection between the two servers is reestablished.
I actually want AFS because it does local caching of files. Here is the comment where I describe that.