you underestimate 'corporate america'. probably because you are just talking with no practical experience at large corporations to back up what you say.
yea sure i can design a computer faster and better than a 50 year old engineer. but the 50 year old engineer could have been one of the guys that figured out how to land on the moon. does that make one of us smarter or better than the other? no, but it does make jon katz and remus sheperd seem real stupid.
i don't understand why this was even posted. if we were all 13 year old kids who thought we knew crap about computers then we would eat this up. but that is not the majority of/.ers, i don't think anyway. so who is this supposed to be appealing to?
i think people should argue it on slashdot for 400 years. at first there will be one great argument, with superb debaters, and it will make the argument famous. then it will happen repeatedly for years, with different players, different distributions, companies, and software, but with the same basic theme. Then we can celebrate the timlessness of the argument.
the stupid thing isn't a turing machine, its a turing tape. all these posts were made without any clue as to what the guy actually did. the point of doing it using the game of life is that it is a simulation not a freaking turing machine. something can go on infinitely in such a simulation because guns can be set up to shoot infinite gliders. it's not a turing machine!
otoh, maybe some work done in producing some of the equipment astrophysicists use finds its way into commercial productions lines. kinda like how the space program gave us tang.
i agree with monkeyboy, so what if he cheated on his wife? i have enormous respect for the way clinton has modernized the white house, running it more like a business, allowing at least the executive brance of government to run more efficiently. he's done a great job of not screwing up the economy while at the same time putting a little bite back into some of the labor and environmental protections reagen did away with. as far as his personal life, the way i see it, he got what he wanted, so it's easy to ignore his love life. what i really wanted to know is what policy issues people have with him.
i hate any gui with a taskbar and start button and i find it difficult to believe an average person couldn't operate a computer without one. if the computer was obviously turned on, and somebody who has ever used a computer before sat down and stared at a blank screen with no icons or anything, how long would it take them to click a mouse button?
the damage the love bug did was logarithmic varying with the number of outlook users. if you only had people that wanted to use it using it, instead of forcing people to use it, how much damage would it do? if half the employees used outlook, it would have done 1/10th the damage
liberals can be as narrowminded as conservatives. those who subscribe to an entire set of political beliefs that they don't even bother to understand (90% of americans) obscure the message that the original developers of the message came up with. this is why the political situation in the u.s. is a sham.
But where does that $2000 come from, at the end of the day. Follow the money, and expose the hypocrisy that is Open Source/Free Software.
you could almost make a haiku out of that. i don't know whether youre just aiming for responses, maybe your some sort of software...yea that would make sense. if i say esr will you have an automated response?
the developers of open source zope get paid over $2000 an hour to consult on web page design. so you can both get paid 'plenty' and populate the ranks of the 'movements'. or you could work on open source software for your own purpose and not be subject to somebodys whims. if you're going to troll at least log in.
don't forget that aol was in serious need of a better browser. no matter which solution they decided on, they had to do something or they would have lost serious marketshare when other competition came along. it was purely a business decision. nobody should feel grateful to aol for supporting mozilla. thats the same kind of crap that companies try to use to make people feel guilty about quitting even though the company just got bought 5 years ago and laid off 3000 people. as a consumer, you should only be glad netscape is supporting mozilla because you think it is a better product. as a coder, you could be glad because it is one different option for people to work. or you could not care if you didn't ever plan to work under that arrangement. but no coder is obligated to 'be glad' netscape/aol 'supports' mozilla.
i am arguing that almost all government interference in the economy is artificial and inefficient, and therefore, bad. it is not a 'silly' argument. just because you mistakenly believe that the u.s. economy will fall apart when the government stops issuing patents doesn't mean it will. you are just a propaganda machine.
i am saying that 'corporate america' does not believe windows is the ideal solution. Some companies probably do, some don't.
you underestimate 'corporate america'. probably because you are just talking with no practical experience at large corporations to back up what you say.
yea sure i can design a computer faster and better than a 50 year old engineer. but the 50 year old engineer could have been one of the guys that figured out how to land on the moon. does that make one of us smarter or better than the other? no, but it does make jon katz and remus sheperd seem real stupid.
i don't understand why this was even posted. if we were all 13 year old kids who thought we knew crap about computers then we would eat this up. but that is not the majority of /.ers, i don't think anyway. so who is this supposed to be appealing to?
size of memory isn't usually considered when determining number of states. usually just the controller.
i think people should argue it on slashdot for 400 years. at first there will be one great argument, with superb debaters, and it will make the argument famous. then it will happen repeatedly for years, with different players, different distributions, companies, and software, but with the same basic theme. Then we can celebrate the timlessness of the argument.
just to nitpick, its not the number of bits that (usually) limits the number of states the cpu goes into (on something like a PIII).
the stupid thing isn't a turing machine, its a turing tape. all these posts were made without any clue as to what the guy actually did. the point of doing it using the game of life is that it is a simulation not a freaking turing machine. something can go on infinitely in such a simulation because guns can be set up to shoot infinite gliders. it's not a turing machine!
you make two opposing statements. if it's a wavelength we can't see, is it still a color? i don't think it is, according to dictionaries.
is infrared a color or just a wavelength?
with brand names and stuff, it would be a hip new line of dkny or something, uglier clothes would become more expensive than better looking stuff.
no it's a color too. like camel is a color.
otoh, maybe some work done in producing some of the equipment astrophysicists use finds its way into commercial productions lines. kinda like how the space program gave us tang.
i agree with monkeyboy, so what if he cheated on his wife? i have enormous respect for the way clinton has modernized the white house, running it more like a business, allowing at least the executive brance of government to run more efficiently. he's done a great job of not screwing up the economy while at the same time putting a little bite back into some of the labor and environmental protections reagen did away with. as far as his personal life, the way i see it, he got what he wanted, so it's easy to ignore his love life. what i really wanted to know is what policy issues people have with him.
what about the clinton presidency didn't you like? any of his policies, or just the other stuff?
i hate any gui with a taskbar and start button and i find it difficult to believe an average person couldn't operate a computer without one. if the computer was obviously turned on, and somebody who has ever used a computer before sat down and stared at a blank screen with no icons or anything, how long would it take them to click a mouse button?
its like a silly atm that gives you recipes instead of money. i think they should have it read the recipe out using john cleese's voice.
so instead of having the most efficient company survive, you have one hand chosen by the government? sounds great
the damage the love bug did was logarithmic varying with the number of outlook users. if you only had people that wanted to use it using it, instead of forcing people to use it, how much damage would it do? if half the employees used outlook, it would have done 1/10th the damage
love bug
liberals can be as narrowminded as conservatives. those who subscribe to an entire set of political beliefs that they don't even bother to understand (90% of americans) obscure the message that the original developers of the message came up with. this is why the political situation in the u.s. is a sham.
But where does that $2000 come from, at the end of the day. Follow the money, and expose the hypocrisy that is Open Source/Free Software.
...yea that would make sense. if i say esr will you have an automated response?
you could almost make a haiku out of that. i don't know whether youre just aiming for responses, maybe your some sort of software
the developers of open source zope get paid over $2000 an hour to consult on web page design. so you can both get paid 'plenty' and populate the ranks of the 'movements'. or you could work on open source software for your own purpose and not be subject to somebodys whims. if you're going to troll at least log in.
don't forget that aol was in serious need of a better browser. no matter which solution they decided on, they had to do something or they would have lost serious marketshare when other competition came along. it was purely a business decision. nobody should feel grateful to aol for supporting mozilla. thats the same kind of crap that companies try to use to make people feel guilty about quitting even though the company just got bought 5 years ago and laid off 3000 people. as a consumer, you should only be glad netscape is supporting mozilla because you think it is a better product. as a coder, you could be glad because it is one different option for people to work. or you could not care if you didn't ever plan to work under that arrangement. but no coder is obligated to 'be glad' netscape/aol 'supports' mozilla.
i am arguing that almost all government interference in the economy is artificial and inefficient, and therefore, bad. it is not a 'silly' argument. just because you mistakenly believe that the u.s. economy will fall apart when the government stops issuing patents doesn't mean it will. you are just a propaganda machine.