It seems to be the consensus among some that although discrimination on the basis of age is illegal, it happens.
I personally enjoy learning the new technologies, getting into the details, solving the problems, and fixing things. In my mind, programming is more like playing music than sports, and although some older musicians may lack energy and tenacity, there are plenty of examples of older artists (the Rolling Stones come to mind) who continue to be productive despite "the odds."
I can see myself as a mentor or teacher but not a manager, and would like to prove to those who practice agism with respect to technical types that they hurt only themselves.
The only way to do that, of course, is to - quietly if possible, because I feel humility is essential to continued growth in such a rapidly-changing industry - do my best to do work that is as good if not better than those who are less experienced. And when I meet someone younger who really knows their stuff, then most definitely it's important to have the humility to learn from them!
Why is it assumed that making it possible to vote online etc, is a cure for voter apathy?
Good point. I have several intelligent friends who refuse to vote. I cannot say that I understand them, and I certainly don't agree with them, but I am quite certain that being able to vote by internet will not change their minds. They are adamant about not voting.
One of these friends has a bumper sticker that says: If god had intended us to vote, he would've given us candidates.
I agree. Ever notice on some cop shows how they pair up a younger person with someone older? I think the engineering profession would benefit a great deal by doing something similar.
I've been programming for the most part since 1976, and I really enjoy working with younger people. Often I've been the trainer, but I've also learned plenty from the "youngsters!"
It's worth grabbing the google cache version, the author has a sense of humor: "At a total of 7 fans we had more than the Late Late Show with Craig Kilborn."
Yes!! It all depends on how objective and rational the people for whom you work are. I know 20-somethings who are infintely more mature than some 40- and even 60-somethings I know (and vice-versa, of course). In my opinion, people who judge others by any superficial criteria, be it age, race, gender, piercings, sexual preference, tattoos, clothing, hair color, eye color, number of fingers, etc. etc. etc. are the immature ones. And unfortunately we live in a world with a lot of immature people (a favorite Bob Marley line: "Once a man is twice a child"). Just because there are so many immature people out there, doesn't mean that you, I, we, have to be like them. If you don't like being treated a certain way because of your age, get revenge by refusing to be like them; be the exception to Bob Marley's rule. It's hard, but the rewards (self-respect, solid long-term relationships with young and old alike) are worth it.
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It seems to be the consensus among some that although discrimination on the basis of age is illegal, it happens.
I personally enjoy learning the new technologies, getting into the details, solving the problems, and fixing things. In my mind, programming is more like playing music than sports, and although some older musicians may lack energy and tenacity, there are plenty of examples of older artists (the Rolling Stones come to mind) who continue to be productive despite "the odds."
I can see myself as a mentor or teacher but not a manager, and would like to prove to those who practice agism with respect to technical types that they hurt only themselves.
The only way to do that, of course, is to - quietly if possible, because I feel humility is essential to continued growth in such a rapidly-changing industry - do my best to do work that is as good if not better than those who are less experienced. And when I meet someone younger who really knows their stuff, then most definitely it's important to have the humility to learn from them!
My first exposure to Dave Barry was back in the 1980s, in the News-Leader (Richmond Virginia's afternoon paper).
IN RICHMOND VIRGINIA, Dave Barry's column appears on the EDITORIAL PAGE!
At least that's where I first saw it; FWIW, it would appear in the Saturday edition.
My understanding is that Dave is a Libertarian, therefore he votes for the best candidate.
Why is it assumed that making it possible to vote online etc, is a cure for voter apathy?
Good point. I have several intelligent friends who refuse to vote. I cannot say that I understand them, and I certainly don't agree with them, but I am quite certain that being able to vote by internet will not change their minds. They are adamant about not voting.
One of these friends has a bumper sticker that says: If god had intended us to vote, he would've given us candidates.
Down a ways on the page we see the title of one of the documents: "Understanding the Linux Virtual Memory Manager."
As a (an ex-)Java guy I immediately thought it stood for "Virtual Machine."
Am I the first to see this: the "Career" link at the bottom of the page takes you to never-never land (404 not found).
How appropriate....
I agree. Ever notice on some cop shows how they pair up a younger person with someone older? I think the engineering profession would benefit a great deal by doing something similar.
I've been programming for the most part since 1976, and I really enjoy working with younger people. Often I've been the trainer, but I've also learned plenty from the "youngsters!"
It's worth grabbing the google cache version, the author has a sense of humor: "At a total of 7 fans we had more than the Late Late Show with Craig Kilborn."
Yes!! It all depends on how objective and rational the people for whom you work are. I know 20-somethings who are infintely more mature than some 40- and even 60-somethings I know (and vice-versa, of course).
In my opinion, people who judge others by any superficial criteria, be it age, race, gender, piercings, sexual preference, tattoos, clothing, hair color, eye color, number of fingers, etc. etc. etc. are the immature ones. And unfortunately we live in a world with a lot of immature people (a favorite Bob Marley line: "Once a man is twice a child").
Just because there are so many immature people out there, doesn't mean that you, I, we, have to be like them.
If you don't like being treated a certain way because of your age, get revenge by refusing to be like them; be the exception to Bob Marley's rule. It's hard, but the rewards (self-respect, solid long-term relationships with young and old alike) are worth it.
You might find the Computer Professionals for Social Responsibility to be a worthy cause. For more information, see http://www.cpsr.org .