The all do that, and in part hide behind the chipset manufacturers who provides the initial version. Actually the offer of the CordiaTab manufacturer is quite "acceptable" (compared to many others).
And the key "takehome" info is that since the manufacturing of PC is now 100% Chinese, and mass market oriented, you cannot launch this kind of project without the cash to make at the very least 100K devices, so if you do not have at the very least 10 M$ do not try, you'll end up wasting everybody's time, your one, but also the community.
What is currently doable are "arduino class" devices and very high end personal devices everything else needs a total reinvention of the whole supply chain... (the OS is really a very minor part of this...)
This is interesting, but actually proves the point, why pay 200€ when you can pay 90€+20% VAT so approx 110€ 90€ is a very high "premium" cost for KDE.... It would make more sense if the table would actually be "super high value" (If you could have a tablet with 2 7" screens, less than 800g super fast with wifi, UTMS, camera, coffe machine interface for 600€ the 90€ up price would be much easier to stomach...)
Since the KDE plasma tablet is the zenithink c71, why should the price be 200€ when the android version is 139 ? Does Google sponsors the Android tablets that much ?
I do understand that the developpers expect to make some revenue for their work, but at this price it just kills the device... A typical software licence in this domain is less than 20€ for the OS and 15€ for the codecs (and this would be for very small quantities....) So the price should not be more than 175, and even then it should be marketed as "dual boot" Android and Linux (since you'd pay for Android anyway)
So it seems that the distribution channel is not under control, and most probably it will die just like other great technical ideas not correctly implemented Sad...
Try to find an old plotter (with pens), and buy high value artisanal paper. make a model of your handwritting and "scan" it to plot the invitations. And add a clickable "unique" short link that people can enter easely to confirm attendance. something like/ABC (for yes) where AB gives you about 26*26 unique identifyer and C a quick checksum validity check. If you have more than 400 guest, make two events, you will not have the time to say hello to anybody...
There is high tech, and the internet, it is not necessarelly the same....
The ranking is somewhat "arbitrary", for example it puts Equatorial Guinea way over Iran and China, in terms of "press freedom".
Well, it is more or less impossible for any journalist to go to EG, and there is no written press at all (only one "free publicity mag", and one randomly published government "daily" that comes out about 5 to 10 times a year, and no library, bookshop,...)
So of course there is little "oppression", once you suppressed all the press...
In contrast the press in Iran and China is regularly oppressed but at least exist.
No they will say that it's the problem of the justice department, and that nobody sued, case closed... and by the way he is a highly respected, bla bla bla....
Most probably they will not unless there is a real strong push from Linux buyer, and even then... The ARM pc makers are ODMs who also make PCs, so basically it is enough that microsoft offers "marketing compensations" based on numbers of units shipped to make sure that the ODMs will again become a Microsoft only shop. As long as the majority of users do not care about their freedom and prefer "comfort" to freedom, we are f***d & s**d
Yep, and it was probably the first CD bootable "live" distribution that you could try before installing! Although we used slakware mostly at the time (to be able to make "small installs" on servers I loved it.
If you ask the shareholders, yes, but if you ask the "fund manager" no, s/he prefers you to keep junk papers, as long as you have somehow the illusion that it just might potentially have some value sometimes, so that you keep paying the manager to "handle" these funds...
No, the manager of an existing investment fund fears that dilution will make him redundant, he repeatedly blocked any "way out" for Mandriva, his only interest is to keep being paid a yearly percentage of the "nominal value" of the investment for doing absolutely nothing useful.
It is a general problem of our current brand of financial capitalism that the investor have in practice no direct contact nor real interest in the companies they invest in. The decision makers ware the investment fund manager, who manage "other peoples money", and their interest is either to maximise the number of transaction at a more or less "stable or growing price" (slicing out some management "fees") or holding "values" if they happen to plummet (since then the "holding fees" are higher than the "transaction fees").. The "invisible hand of the market" is holding our b*s and squeezing...
maybe people read the comment, and forgive the typo (censorship, yep shouldn't have missed the red twiddly lines.... moreover, it helps to explain one disagree, keeping with oh no this is wrong... kind of lacks arguments...
It is exactly the same thing, agreed life in Iran is worse than in the US, but there are much less differences than you think between the ideas of the majority of the US citizens and Iranian citizens.
"The voices said" : Homosexuality is really very very bad, nonono => no to gay mariage in the US, being gay is " choice" (yea after all they could just all because priest and not have sex...), etc... in Iran the government offers "free" operations to "solve the problem. "The voices said": Drugs are bad, ok in Iran they added Alcohol to the list, but there is no difference between an Teheran middle class guy calling his dealer for a bottle of booze and the New York citizen calling his dealer to bring come weed (in both case the quality is probably dismal). Etc....
And the voices didn't say : "make your internet halal",.. The voices said: "think of the children"... and created DCMA and SOPA or DAVSI & LCN & HADOPI etc...
At the end it is all the same, and only a difference in levels...
And we should stop "fighting for democracy", but focus on freedom..., not that freedom is really possible in a sustainable way without democracy, but democracy is not a recipe for individual freedom and human rights...
The majority of the people in the world believe that an atheist or any person that is not following a very short list of "approved" religions is "bad", they also believe that your sexuality should follow their norms, they believe that being of "their country" is something "special" that you need to be proud of it (independently of having done anything to be part of the country or for the country). So only we need to hammer into their brain that if they want to have some level of happiness and comfort: other people have to be free to be really weird, disgusting, etc... it's none of their business...
... the same, oups wait, no they never had an open Internet.
Iran is on the Internet since approx: 95/96 (ok at that time they had about 19200b/s to connect them to the university of vienna... KSA started to authorise Internet only around 2001 and only after they had installed a "country firewall"....
But all this shows that Internet is a tool, not a "solution"... Internet does NOT "route around sensorship", people do using the tools at hand, and it is not easy because the means of sensorship are many...
Making in country hosting very expensive and throttling international internet access are the most comment means... Manipulating the search engine, either because you own it, or through various "preservation" laws another... Make laws about what you are allowed to say is an all time favorite..
The Jim Crow laws have been repelled, including the laws forbidding to critisize them, but equivalent laws about drug policies, Intellectual properties policies, etc... abound in all the world... With the effect that even with an "open internet" the info might "be there", but no local person therefore no "locally connected" person can point to it... (thing thai monarchy for an example concerning another "ally")
Only civic movements can change things, and even then "your mileanage might vary", (see the result of the "arab spring", now the new arab winter...)
First what is good for the majority of iranian is not necessarely good for the current leadership.. Second foreign influence in Iran do not have a very good track record, so it is not "that tempting".
You can look at the situation in North Korea where it's even crazier, but obviously there are enough people benefiting to control the rest.
And maybe closer to your home: why are the US doing this to itself ? It's so needlessly self destructive. Just stop it. Behave yourelf, you do not need to put 1% of your adult population in prison, and rob the rest of all their saved, current and future cash with shemanigans like subprime financing, inflated student loans, etc.. what is the point of all this ? Best case a couple of manager get more money that they could possible spend in their lifetime, and then what ? Hundreds of years of eroding of civil liberties while the rest of the work shakes it's head ? That sounds like loads of fun. If you stopped all this you could have a nice life and everyone benefit.. And you know what... not gonna happen real soon now...
Well chineses have access to "the internet", so their human rights are "respected", same in Bolivia you have access to the internet, but of course hosting a site at a resonable price in Bolivia so that local people have a decent access to your ideas, no way...
So Vint Cerf is right, putting the internet on the list of "human rights" is a way to pretend to give "a right" so that you do not grumble to much about "less important things" like the right to express your opinions even if it's "gasp" blasphemy or "how horible" insult to the state, etc...
The core issue with "bad schools" is the size of them, in all "rich" nations there has been a trend to "optimize" the cost of education. The basic idea is to get the public to pay for basic education, but try to push the price down, and privatize upper education, so that the only poor people who can get access it are the ones so smart that they might become dangerous for the status quo.
It is impossible to really manage and discipline a school with 2 to 3000 pupil without some sort of "enforcement", if you have a 1% level of "hard cases" in a small school you might have 2 or 3 people who need "special care" but are basically isolated. In a large school you have a core of 20 to 30 people organizing their cosy little gang, and impressing 60 to 120 "hanger ons" who would never have though of it otherwise.
It is not the "fault" of poor people who have trouble finding feeding themselves, they do not value the education their children get, because they know it's sh*t, and they do not have the time. If you'd force somebody making 200K+ to send their children to a "parking lot school" full of gang members, they would not really care so much about their children going there or not.
There is no compelling proof that any charity giving to people in the developing world did anything really worthwhile. In most case it is very similar to the 19th century "charities" where bored rich wife of industrialist would give money to "deserving" people that where robbed of the just reward of their work by the donor's husband. In most cases these charities are "photo op" opportunities for people who need some positive press, and help make sure that the problems that generated the need for the charity are not solved ever.
Now there are some project that are helping people survive "right now" while hopefully something is done for the underling problem, but the only ones I know would not take money from somebody they do not know.
So if you want to donate, first donate enough time to make sure the people running the show are actually doing something useful (the issue is not so much the ration admin cost/vs project cost, but will it really work, for example one project I'm familiar with help poor people to go to school, "hooray", but since it does not help the schools to get more teachers, the result is that less people graduate.... oups...(but the photoops are cute, and it soo help to push "policies",like the ones that helped boost the teenage pregnancies in the US...)
If you do not have the time, give to the local homeless person, s/he will help the booze industry and be happyier (for a short time, but that's better than being sad this time...) Just think that with a 100$ "donnation" you can give 5$ to two homeless people about once a month, and just the fact that somebody seems to care enough to do this severall time, is probably worth a lot of "karma points" !
Oh no !! they could have fun, that would be horrible, we first tell them to "just say no", and then try to find a way out of the problem we created (with their help, nevertheless we provided the lack of education)
You could point him (or her) to http://copyright.gov/circs/circ14.pdf and specificly ask to comment the remark about the copyrightability of the "format shifter" content. The document says that a Super CD remixed version of an original CD is a "copyrightable" version. So it seems logic that a Youtube remixed version should be "copyrightable" for similar reasons. But calling a lawey might be good idea after all you'll need one to sue CBS anyway:-)
FedFlix should create "derivative works" who would then not be in the public domain. Adding one image at the begining telling "FedFlix brings you !", and one at the end with "Thank you for watching" and maybe a small watermark would be enough and trivial to automate.
This would create an "infringable" copyrighed notice, and then anybody who would want to benefit from the FedFlix "marketing" to push their adds would be "infringing" could be "expulsed" and potentially be "banned" from youtube (it would be fun to see FedFlix asking google "why isn't this dangerous repeat offender "CBS" banned ?
Of course it seems "pointless" but just as the GPL is using copyright to implement copyleft, you need sometime to use private means to promote the public domain.
System I, I think System II got the "versions", then they "jumped" to System III, although many people allready had sidejumped to Berkeley. But indeed it started with System, not versions, (but the "versions" made it popular:-)) I found particularly interesting the "programmers work bench" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PWB/UNIX wich had all kinds of cool programming and text processing tools:-)
Population of Irak around 30 M, population of Afghanistan around 30 M, population of Iran around 80 M. Approximate economical wealth of Iran compared to Irak + Afghanistan about 4 time more.
Cost of Irak/Afghan war : around 4 Trillion. Probable cost of Iran war between 6 and 16 Trillion US$ or around 25K per us citizen age 0 to 100.
Or equivalent to the next bank bailout...., not sure the US can afford both...
Yep, new "evolving" critchures are just new plagues sent by a real jalous god! and we are no frigging ape you would be veggie you !
Unfortunatelly most people just do not care, it is the "it should just work" mindset. So for instance about drug resistance: a) it does not exist, the doctor give me a white pill, I'm cured, no difference to the last time! (or I'm dead, so I won't complain), it it took longuer it's because I got a strong case of "whatever" b) if some damned nerd did rub my nose into drug resistance, first I hate him or her, second it's all part of the divine plan, god just created a new superbug because we've been real baaaad. So I can go on avoiding pesky facts contradict what I "know".
Anyway it's just a "theory" so it's not "sure" right ?
(I suggest that the scientific community create a new world to remplace theory in order to avoid confusion with the "mundane" use of "theory" my proposition is "biteyourownballsifyourefusetobelievealthoughyoucannotdisprove", but it might be deemd gender centric, so I guess the "better word competition" for theory is still open).
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The all do that, and in part hide behind the chipset manufacturers who provides the initial version.
Actually the offer of the CordiaTab manufacturer is quite "acceptable" (compared to many others).
And the key "takehome" info is that since the manufacturing of PC is now 100% Chinese, and mass market oriented, you cannot launch this kind of project without the cash to make at the very least 100K devices, so if you do not have at the very least 10 M$ do not try, you'll end up wasting everybody's time, your one, but also the community.
What is currently doable are "arduino class" devices and very high end personal devices everything else needs a total reinvention of the whole supply chain... (the OS is really a very minor part of this...)
This is interesting, but actually proves the point, why pay 200€ when you can pay 90€+20% VAT so approx 110€
90€ is a very high "premium" cost for KDE....
It would make more sense if the table would actually be "super high value"
(If you could have a tablet with 2 7" screens, less than 800g super fast with wifi, UTMS, camera, coffe machine interface
for 600€ the 90€ up price would be much easier to stomach...)
Since the KDE plasma tablet is the zenithink c71, why should the price be 200€ when the android version is 139 ?
Does Google sponsors the Android tablets that much ?
I do understand that the developpers expect to make some revenue for their work, but at this price it just kills the device...
A typical software licence in this domain is less than 20€ for the OS and 15€ for the codecs (and this would be for very small quantities....)
So the price should not be more than 175, and even then it should be marketed as "dual boot" Android and Linux (since you'd pay for Android anyway)
So it seems that the distribution channel is not under control, and most probably it will die just like other great technical ideas not correctly implemented ...
Sad
Try to find an old plotter (with pens), and buy high value artisanal paper. /ABC (for yes) where AB gives you about 26*26 unique identifyer and C a quick checksum validity check.
make a model of your handwritting and "scan" it to plot the invitations.
And add a clickable "unique" short link that people can enter easely to confirm attendance.
something like
If you have more than 400 guest, make two events, you will not have the time to say hello to anybody...
There is high tech, and the internet, it is not necessarelly the same....
The ranking is somewhat "arbitrary", for example it puts Equatorial Guinea way over Iran and China, in terms of "press freedom".
Well, it is more or less impossible for any journalist to go to EG, and there is no written press at all (only one "free publicity mag", and one randomly published government "daily" that comes out about 5 to 10 times a year, and no library, bookshop, ...)
So of course there is little "oppression", once you suppressed all the press...
In contrast the press in Iran and China is regularly oppressed but at least exist.
No they will say that it's the problem of the justice department, and that nobody sued, case closed... ....
and by the way he is a highly respected, bla bla bla
Most probably they will not unless there is a real strong push from Linux buyer, and even then...
The ARM pc makers are ODMs who also make PCs, so basically it is enough that microsoft offers "marketing compensations" based on numbers of units shipped to make sure that the ODMs will again become a Microsoft only shop.
As long as the majority of users do not care about their freedom and prefer "comfort" to freedom, we are f***d & s**d
Yep, and it was probably the first CD bootable "live" distribution that you could try before installing!
Although we used slakware mostly at the time (to be able to make "small installs" on servers I loved it.
If you ask the shareholders, yes, but if you ask the "fund manager" no, s/he prefers you to keep junk papers, as long as you have somehow the illusion that it just might potentially have some value sometimes, so that you keep paying the manager to "handle" these funds...
No, the manager of an existing investment fund fears that dilution will make him redundant, he repeatedly blocked any "way out" for Mandriva, his only interest is to keep being paid a yearly percentage of the "nominal value" of the investment for doing absolutely nothing useful.
It is a general problem of our current brand of financial capitalism that the investor have in practice no direct contact nor real interest in the companies they invest in.
The decision makers ware the investment fund manager, who manage "other peoples money", and their interest is either to maximise the number of transaction at a more or less "stable or growing price" (slicing out some management "fees") or holding "values" if they happen to plummet (since then the "holding fees" are higher than the "transaction fees")..
The "invisible hand of the market" is holding our b*s and squeezing...
maybe people read the comment, and forgive the typo (censorship, yep shouldn't have missed the red twiddly lines....
moreover, it helps to explain one disagree, keeping with oh no this is wrong... kind of lacks arguments...
It is exactly the same thing, agreed life in Iran is worse than in the US, but there are much less differences than you think between the ideas of the majority of the US citizens and Iranian citizens.
"The voices said" : Homosexuality is really very very bad, nonono => no to gay mariage in the US, being gay is " choice" (yea after all they could just all because priest and not have sex...), etc ... in Iran the government offers "free" operations to "solve the problem.
"The voices said": Drugs are bad, ok in Iran they added Alcohol to the list, but there is no difference between an Teheran middle class guy calling his dealer for a bottle of booze and the New York citizen calling his dealer to bring come weed (in both case the quality is probably dismal).
Etc....
And the voices didn't say : "make your internet halal", .. ... and created DCMA and SOPA or DAVSI & LCN & HADOPI etc...
The voices said: "think of the children"
At the end it is all the same, and only a difference in levels...
And we should stop "fighting for democracy", but focus on freedom..., not that freedom is really possible in a sustainable way without democracy, but democracy is not a recipe for individual freedom and human rights...
The majority of the people in the world believe that an atheist or any person that is not following a very short list of "approved" religions is "bad", they also believe that your sexuality should follow their norms, they believe that being of "their country" is something "special" that you need to be proud of it (independently of having done anything to be part of the country or for the country). ...
So only we need to hammer into their brain that if they want to have some level of happiness and comfort: other people have to be free to be really weird, disgusting, etc... it's none of their business
Democracy will follow probably, ...
... the same, oups wait, no they never had an open Internet.
Iran is on the Internet since approx: 95/96 (ok at that time they had about 19200b/s to connect them to the university of vienna...
KSA started to authorise Internet only around 2001 and only after they had installed a "country firewall"....
But all this shows that Internet is a tool, not a "solution"... Internet does NOT "route around sensorship", people do using the tools at hand, and it is not easy because the means of sensorship are many...
Making in country hosting very expensive and throttling international internet access are the most comment means...
Manipulating the search engine, either because you own it, or through various "preservation" laws another...
Make laws about what you are allowed to say is an all time favorite..
The Jim Crow laws have been repelled, including the laws forbidding to critisize them, but equivalent laws about drug policies, Intellectual properties policies, etc... abound in all the world...
With the effect that even with an "open internet" the info might "be there", but no local person therefore no "locally connected" person can point to it... (thing thai monarchy for an example concerning another "ally")
Only civic movements can change things, and even then "your mileanage might vary", (see the result of the "arab spring", now the new arab winter...)
I would like to mod to funy :-)
First what is good for the majority of iranian is not necessarely good for the current leadership..
Second foreign influence in Iran do not have a very good track record, so it is not "that tempting".
You can look at the situation in North Korea where it's even crazier, but obviously there are enough people benefiting to control the rest.
And maybe closer to your home: why are the US doing this to itself ? It's so needlessly self destructive. Just stop it. Behave yourelf, you do not need to put 1% of your adult population in prison, and rob the rest of all their saved, current and future cash with shemanigans like subprime financing, inflated student loans, etc.. what is the point of all this ? Best case a couple of manager get more money that they could possible spend in their lifetime, and then what ? Hundreds of years of eroding of civil liberties while the rest of the work shakes it's head ? That sounds like loads of fun. If you stopped all this you could have a nice life and everyone benefit.. ... not gonna happen real soon now ...
And you know what
Well chineses have access to "the internet", so their human rights are "respected", same in Bolivia you have access to the internet, but of course hosting a site at a resonable price in Bolivia so that local people have a decent access to your ideas, no way...
So Vint Cerf is right, putting the internet on the list of "human rights" is a way to pretend to give "a right" so that you do not grumble to much about "less important things" like the right to express your opinions even if it's "gasp" blasphemy or "how horible" insult to the state, etc...
The core issue with "bad schools" is the size of them, in all "rich" nations there has been a trend to "optimize" the cost of education.
The basic idea is to get the public to pay for basic education, but try to push the price down, and privatize upper education, so that the only poor people who can get access it are the ones so smart that they might become dangerous for the status quo.
It is impossible to really manage and discipline a school with 2 to 3000 pupil without some sort of "enforcement", if you have a 1% level of "hard cases" in a small school you might have 2 or 3 people who need "special care" but are basically isolated.
In a large school you have a core of 20 to 30 people organizing their cosy little gang, and impressing 60 to 120 "hanger ons" who would never have though of it otherwise.
It is not the "fault" of poor people who have trouble finding feeding themselves, they do not value the education their children get, because they know it's sh*t, and they do not have the time.
If you'd force somebody making 200K+ to send their children to a "parking lot school" full of gang members, they would not really care so much about their children going there or not.
There is no compelling proof that any charity giving to people in the developing world did anything really worthwhile.
In most case it is very similar to the 19th century "charities" where bored rich wife of industrialist would give money to "deserving" people that where robbed of the just reward of their work by the donor's husband.
In most cases these charities are "photo op" opportunities for people who need some positive press, and help make sure that the problems that generated the need for the charity are not solved ever.
Now there are some project that are helping people survive "right now" while hopefully something is done for the underling problem, but the only ones I know would not take money from somebody they do not know.
So if you want to donate, first donate enough time to make sure the people running the show are actually doing something useful (the issue is not so much the ration admin cost/vs project cost, but will it really work, for example one project I'm familiar with help poor people to go to school, "hooray", but since it does not help the schools to get more teachers, the result is that less people graduate.... oups...(but the photoops are cute, and it soo help to push "policies",like the ones that helped boost the teenage pregnancies in the US...)
If you do not have the time, give to the local homeless person, s/he will help the booze industry and be happyier (for a short time, but that's better than being sad this time...)
Just think that with a 100$ "donnation" you can give 5$ to two homeless people about once a month, and just the fact that somebody seems to care enough to do this severall time, is probably worth a lot of "karma points" !
You mean you can help microsoft to leverage some of it's marketing fund into non taxable income by using bing..
Oh no !! they could have fun, that would be horrible, we first tell them to "just say no", and then try to find a way out of the problem we created (with their help, nevertheless we provided the lack of education)
You could point him (or her) to http://copyright.gov/circs/circ14.pdf and specificly ask to comment the remark about the copyrightability of the "format shifter" content. :-)
The document says that a Super CD remixed version of an original CD is a "copyrightable" version.
So it seems logic that a Youtube remixed version should be "copyrightable" for similar reasons.
But calling a lawey might be good idea after all you'll need one to sue CBS anyway
FedFlix should create "derivative works" who would then not be in the public domain.
Adding one image at the begining telling "FedFlix brings you !", and one at the end with "Thank you for watching" and maybe a small watermark would be enough and trivial to automate.
This would create an "infringable" copyrighed notice, and then anybody who would want to benefit from the FedFlix "marketing" to push their adds would be "infringing" could be "expulsed" and potentially be "banned" from youtube (it would be fun to see FedFlix asking google "why isn't this dangerous repeat offender "CBS" banned ?
Of course it seems "pointless" but just as the GPL is using copyright to implement copyleft, you need sometime to use private means to promote the public domain.
I wonder why they didn't do it ...
System I, I think System II got the "versions", then they "jumped" to System III, although many people allready had sidejumped to Berkeley. :-)) :-)
But indeed it started with System, not versions, (but the "versions" made it popular
I found particularly interesting the "programmers work bench" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PWB/UNIX wich had all kinds of cool programming and text processing tools
Population of Irak around 30 M, population of Afghanistan around 30 M, population of Iran around 80 M.
Approximate economical wealth of Iran compared to Irak + Afghanistan about 4 time more.
Cost of Irak/Afghan war : around 4 Trillion.
Probable cost of Iran war between 6 and 16 Trillion US$ or around 25K per us citizen age 0 to 100.
Or equivalent to the next bank bailout ...., not sure the US can afford both...
Yep, new "evolving" critchures are just new plagues sent by a real jalous god!
and we are no frigging ape you would be veggie you !
Unfortunatelly most people just do not care, it is the "it should just work" mindset.
So for instance about drug resistance:
a) it does not exist, the doctor give me a white pill, I'm cured, no difference to the last time! (or I'm dead, so I won't complain), it it took longuer it's because I got a strong case of "whatever"
b) if some damned nerd did rub my nose into drug resistance, first I hate him or her, second it's all part of the divine plan, god just created a new superbug because we've been real baaaad.
So I can go on avoiding pesky facts contradict what I "know".
Anyway it's just a "theory" so it's not "sure" right ?
(I suggest that the scientific community create a new world to remplace theory in order to avoid confusion with the "mundane" use of "theory"
my proposition is "biteyourownballsifyourefusetobelievealthoughyoucannotdisprove", but it might be deemd gender centric, so I guess the "better word competition" for theory is still open).