How about the banks that ripped people off, demanded bailouts, and continue ripping people off and bonusing themselves to this day? They're fifty times worse, but no one seems to care since they don't hinder us from watching Sunday Night Football.
The Golden Poo award in this instance needs to go to our Congress-critters, the current President and the former President.
An American carrier battle group (and any other for that matter) can defend against, maybe 10-20 cruise missiles. If 100 are fired at the carrier group, there's no way it would survive (and yes 100 cruise missiles is a hell of a lot cheaper than a carrier battle group). One phalanx, if it's extremely lucky, can take out 5-6 missiles, no more. More modern systems can take out 10 missiles.
Phalanx is not the only line of defense. The Aegis combat system was designed for this scenario. All things being equal it would take more than 20 cruise missiles to overwhelm the defenses of a CVBG.
They are a lot harder to sink than you might imagine. It's not that easy to sink a ship that displaces 100,000 tons, short of nuclear weapons. The real danger is in having them damaged to the point that they can't conduct air operations. That's as good as sinking them from a mission standpoint and much easier to achieve.
Your argument seemed to be that rapists, pedophiles and serial killers "choose" to do harm to people and therefore are of no value. It's easy to justify such a flawed argument if you rationalize it by labeling the people as "evil", which you're doing even if you're not using that specific term.
They are of no value. They deserve the same treatment that we would give a rabid dog.
we're not mature enough as a society to be putting people to death
Making the argument that someone is evil because they "choose" to become a serial killer or a pedophile is exactly like suggesting someone who cannot walk can choose to do so
I never said they were "evil" (whatever that means), I only said that we should put them out of our collective misery. One can feel sorry for a dog with rabies while still acknowledging that the best course of action is to shoot the poor thing.
However, to round up a posse afterwards on their eyewitness testimony and extract revenge on the first fellow that matches the description
And when that "first fellow" just happens to have a 1 in a billion DNA match to the semen we found inside her?
We can HOPE the justice system will convict the right guy, if caught, and exclude those who are innocent. But, history has shown that's not a realistic expectation either.
No institution created by man has been or ever will be perfect. I don't buy the argument that past errors on the part of the criminal justice system should exclude current criminals from forfeiting their lives for crimes committed.
The Soviet military invaded the plant for a "scientific test" and held the technicians at gunpoint while they bypassed every security feature that site had.
Umm, bullshit. The test was scheduled by the plant crew. It was originally supposed to be held during the day when more experienced operators were on duty but was moved to the night shift because the USSR's persistent electrical shortages would not allow the idling of a reactor during peak demand. The Soviet military had nothing to do with it until the disaster happened nor was anybody held at gunpoint and forced to conduct the test.
On a side note, I've often wondered why the thought of having the more experienced operators come in and work the night shift didn't cross anyone's mind. I guess communism doesn't encourage standing out from the pack and suggesting such "novel" ideas....
It connected at 54mbit/s. I didn't have a local computer running so I wasn't able to test it at full capacity to see if I could get that speed. I tested a couple of internet transfers at 10mbit/s (the limit of my internet connection at the time) which all worked just fine.
And yeah, it was an old Cisco Aironet AP at my house. One that we retired from the field and didn't have a better use for. Overkill for a residential AP but better than letting it sit on a shelf somewhere and collect dust.
I never advocated taking away their right. I was responding to your comment questioning why they blur faces. My understanding is that such blurring is voluntary on their part. They've made a (sensible, IMHO) decision that there's nothing to be gained from showing those faces.
I used to work for a WISP. One day I was out in the field doing a site survey with a 24db unidirectional antenna. As it happened my house was between our tower and the site that I was surveying, about two miles away as the crow flies. My laptop automatically associated to the AP at my house before I could tell it to associate to our tower. Had good enough signal to maintain a 54mbit/s connection and surf the web.
That was with the high gain antenna on only one side of the connection. The AP at my house just had the cheap little dipole antennas on it. It was also located indoors and behind the trees in our backyard. I've never forgotten that.
Never underestimate how far away your RF signals can be picked up.
Ah, ISDN. I never got to mess around with that at home. We did use it to connect some remote offices once upon a time. One time it stopped working and my Cisco router started throwing a weird error code that nobody (not even a CCIE friend of mine) had ever seen before. The calls were being made but disappearing in the ether somewhere. It took Verizon three days to figure out what had gone wrong with their switch. Most of that time was spent trying to explain what ISDN was to their techs. They finally found someone knowledgeable about it (apparently there aren't too many of those in Upstate NY) and she managed to fix the problem in half an hour.
BTW, I forgot to comment before, but I like your sig. I'm not sure I'd call myself a pagan but I'm attracted to concept of polytheism. I'm also a libertarian. Glad to meet you:)
Not everyone lives in a densely populated urban environment. Where I live the houses are far enough apart that it's child's play to determine which AP is running in which house.
Do you really think they'll show up at your door with a turban and a single shot pistol?
Oh, and sorry to reply twice, but that's pretty much what they did here. It's not going to be an organized attack. It will be one or two nutjobs who answer the call for violence. I would take my chances with that. And let's just say that as an American I would not be hiding in a panic room waiting for the police to come and save me. Mr. Westergaard is a walking and talking argument for the right to keep and bear arms.
I wasn't thinking so much about solving it as I was about surviving it. If the police won't (or can't) protect you then you have to protect yourself. Your goal shouldn't be to solve crime, it should be to survive a crime being committed against you.
I don't think the South Park guys are pussies, unless you think they should break their contract with Viacom and REALLY make a statement. I suppose they could -- they have enough money by now -- but they probably don't relish the idea of spending the next decade in court writing checks to lawyers. Viacom are the real pussies here. They allow the South Park guys to insult every religion under the sun, alienating powerful political figures and advertising partners, but fold like a cheap suit when confronted with a handful of Muslim extremists that don't even have a base of operations on American soil. Pathetic.
+1 on the 7.62. Freedom isn't free as they say. Try and force your religious beliefs on me with violence and you'll discover that violence is a two way street.
How about the banks that ripped people off, demanded bailouts, and continue ripping people off and bonusing themselves to this day? They're fifty times worse, but no one seems to care since they don't hinder us from watching Sunday Night Football.
The Golden Poo award in this instance needs to go to our Congress-critters, the current President and the former President.
Just to put forth my own standpoint, i think these kind of anti-personel mines are awfull, and horribly immoral
Why are they awful and immoral compared to a 5.56mm slug that tends to wound more often than kill?
An American carrier battle group (and any other for that matter) can defend against, maybe 10-20 cruise missiles. If 100 are fired at the carrier group, there's no way it would survive (and yes 100 cruise missiles is a hell of a lot cheaper than a carrier battle group). One phalanx, if it's extremely lucky, can take out 5-6 missiles, no more. More modern systems can take out 10 missiles.
Phalanx is not the only line of defense. The Aegis combat system was designed for this scenario. All things being equal it would take more than 20 cruise missiles to overwhelm the defenses of a CVBG.
DDG != CVN. The Sheffield displaced 4,820 tons. A Nimtiz Class Aircraft Carrier displaces around 100,000 tons.
They are a lot harder to sink than you might imagine. It's not that easy to sink a ship that displaces 100,000 tons, short of nuclear weapons. The real danger is in having them damaged to the point that they can't conduct air operations. That's as good as sinking them from a mission standpoint and much easier to achieve.
Your argument seemed to be that rapists, pedophiles and serial killers "choose" to do harm to people and therefore are of no value. It's easy to justify such a flawed argument if you rationalize it by labeling the people as "evil", which you're doing even if you're not using that specific term.
They are of no value. They deserve the same treatment that we would give a rabid dog.
we're not mature enough as a society to be putting people to death
That's your opinion. I disagree.
Making the argument that someone is evil because they "choose" to become a serial killer or a pedophile is exactly like suggesting someone who cannot walk can choose to do so
I never said they were "evil" (whatever that means), I only said that we should put them out of our collective misery. One can feel sorry for a dog with rabies while still acknowledging that the best course of action is to shoot the poor thing.
However, to round up a posse afterwards on their eyewitness testimony and extract revenge on the first fellow that matches the description
And when that "first fellow" just happens to have a 1 in a billion DNA match to the semen we found inside her?
We can HOPE the justice system will convict the right guy, if caught, and exclude those who are innocent. But, history has shown that's not a realistic expectation either.
No institution created by man has been or ever will be perfect. I don't buy the argument that past errors on the part of the criminal justice system should exclude current criminals from forfeiting their lives for crimes committed.
The Soviet military invaded the plant for a "scientific test" and held the technicians at gunpoint while they bypassed every security feature that site had.
Umm, bullshit. The test was scheduled by the plant crew. It was originally supposed to be held during the day when more experienced operators were on duty but was moved to the night shift because the USSR's persistent electrical shortages would not allow the idling of a reactor during peak demand. The Soviet military had nothing to do with it until the disaster happened nor was anybody held at gunpoint and forced to conduct the test.
On a side note, I've often wondered why the thought of having the more experienced operators come in and work the night shift didn't cross anyone's mind. I guess communism doesn't encourage standing out from the pack and suggesting such "novel" ideas....
I couldn't tell the difference between that and Budweiser.
Frosty piss tastes better.
I agree. He's a pussy. You don't leave a child alone while you retreat like a coward to the safety of your panic room.
It connected at 54mbit/s. I didn't have a local computer running so I wasn't able to test it at full capacity to see if I could get that speed. I tested a couple of internet transfers at 10mbit/s (the limit of my internet connection at the time) which all worked just fine.
And yeah, it was an old Cisco Aironet AP at my house. One that we retired from the field and didn't have a better use for. Overkill for a residential AP but better than letting it sit on a shelf somewhere and collect dust.
I never advocated taking away their right. I was responding to your comment questioning why they blur faces. My understanding is that such blurring is voluntary on their part. They've made a (sensible, IMHO) decision that there's nothing to be gained from showing those faces.
You completely ignored the bit about undercover police officers and government witnesses, didn't you?
So in your world domestic abuse victims/government witnesses/undercover cops/etc should just live as hermits who can never leave the house?
I used to work for a WISP. One day I was out in the field doing a site survey with a 24db unidirectional antenna. As it happened my house was between our tower and the site that I was surveying, about two miles away as the crow flies. My laptop automatically associated to the AP at my house before I could tell it to associate to our tower. Had good enough signal to maintain a 54mbit/s connection and surf the web.
That was with the high gain antenna on only one side of the connection. The AP at my house just had the cheap little dipole antennas on it. It was also located indoors and behind the trees in our backyard. I've never forgotten that.
Never underestimate how far away your RF signals can be picked up.
Ah, ISDN. I never got to mess around with that at home. We did use it to connect some remote offices once upon a time. One time it stopped working and my Cisco router started throwing a weird error code that nobody (not even a CCIE friend of mine) had ever seen before. The calls were being made but disappearing in the ether somewhere. It took Verizon three days to figure out what had gone wrong with their switch. Most of that time was spent trying to explain what ISDN was to their techs. They finally found someone knowledgeable about it (apparently there aren't too many of those in Upstate NY) and she managed to fix the problem in half an hour.
BTW, I forgot to comment before, but I like your sig. I'm not sure I'd call myself a pagan but I'm attracted to concept of polytheism. I'm also a libertarian. Glad to meet you :)
wardriving involves the theft of bandwidth, which is a commodity.
I didn't know the CEO of Verizon had a /. account. Welcome aboard sir! Or are you the CEO of AT&T?
Personally I think the blurring faces part is stupid and unnecessary
You might not think that if you were a domestic abuse victim trying to blend into the background of a new city without being located by someone.....
Broadcasting an SSID is a strictly local affair - maybe within a range of 50 metres, tops
Ever heard of a high gain antenna? If you think your Wi-Fi signals disappear after 50 meters you are in for a rude surprise.
Not everyone lives in a densely populated urban environment. Where I live the houses are far enough apart that it's child's play to determine which AP is running in which house.
But my hard drive was full. I had no where else to save my sex tape other than Youtube ;)
Do you really think they'll show up at your door with a turban and a single shot pistol?
Oh, and sorry to reply twice, but that's pretty much what they did here. It's not going to be an organized attack. It will be one or two nutjobs who answer the call for violence. I would take my chances with that. And let's just say that as an American I would not be hiding in a panic room waiting for the police to come and save me. Mr. Westergaard is a walking and talking argument for the right to keep and bear arms.
You'll never be able to open your mailbox or your trashcan without thinking that it might rip your hands off.
Speak for yourself. I would not allow myself to live my life in fear in such a manner.
I wasn't thinking so much about solving it as I was about surviving it. If the police won't (or can't) protect you then you have to protect yourself. Your goal shouldn't be to solve crime, it should be to survive a crime being committed against you.
I don't think the South Park guys are pussies, unless you think they should break their contract with Viacom and REALLY make a statement. I suppose they could -- they have enough money by now -- but they probably don't relish the idea of spending the next decade in court writing checks to lawyers. Viacom are the real pussies here. They allow the South Park guys to insult every religion under the sun, alienating powerful political figures and advertising partners, but fold like a cheap suit when confronted with a handful of Muslim extremists that don't even have a base of operations on American soil. Pathetic.
+1 on the 7.62. Freedom isn't free as they say. Try and force your religious beliefs on me with violence and you'll discover that violence is a two way street.