I think you are being a little naïve. That web sit is just the root. If you click on the Netblock owner (National Institutes of Health) link you'll see all the websites HHS runs. Not only are there are many MS servers there are also many Linux and Solaris as well. http://toolbar.netcraft.com/netblock?q=NIHNET-2,13 7.187.0.0,137.187.255.255
Your misquoting the article. The figures for Unix and Windows was $5.2 billion and $4.6 billion for the forth quarter only. That anualizes to $20.8 billion and $18.4 billion for the year. The Linux number is for the whole year.
When it comes to operating systems, Unix and Windows servers continued to grow. Unix server revenue was $5.2 billion in the fourth quarter of 2004 while the corresponding figure for Windows was $4.6 billion.
Linux servers represented 9 percent of worldwide server revenue in 2004, which is 35.6 percent growth compared to the year before.
If you believe this then what do lines of source code have to do with free speech. If free speech is to be real it has to apply to everything not just ideas that a particular group agrees with.
What is the famous free speech cliche "I don't agree with what you are saying, but I will defend your right to say it"
I know most/.'s will find this hard to believe but M$ has always provided a huge amount of source code in an open source fashion. Just visit MSDN and you'll see of examples of free sample code. Then go to the code center where you can find tons of free demonstration applications that you can use to build your own app. For example the company I work for has used User Interface Process Application Block for.NET and Exception Management Application Block for.NET from their patterns and practices site to form the basis of an Enterprise scale business application. Of course the code is generally sample applications for Business purposes. But code like this has been available from M$ since before the internet boom.
The article states that M$ does not innovate enough to justify the cost. I read that as a call to the community to do some real innovating when it's our turn. So far we've done precious little than copy someone who's not innovating.
It raised the hair on the back of my neck. It was a cold rainy day in So. Illinois. My wife and kids had gone to bed. I couldn't believe what I was seeing.
A little remembered fact about the commercial is that "Big Brother" is IBM. They were the Microsoft of the 70s and 80s. Lets hope they don't revert to their old ways.
I've gone to the last two PDCs and Microsoft has been very forth comming with details. They do alot of examples during their presentations. They give away a lot of software. In the PDC this year every attendie got a copy of all versions of Longhorn (x86, IA64, x64, etc.), a copy of Yukon (the next version of SQL server), a copy of the next version of Visual Studio and a copy of Office 2003. As allways the.NET SDK is available free for download.
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Finally a post that has real thought behind it. If more of the community thought the way you do then the predictions of the chest beaters like ESR might come true a little sooner.
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It sure does. VB.NET is vbc.exe and VC++ is indeed cl.exe. It also include a shit load of other stuff. A.Net Assembler Linker(al.exe), three ASP.NET exes, the IL assembler and disassembler (ilasm.exe and ildasm.exe), a java script compiler(jsc.exe), a utility to convert IL to native code(ngen.exe) and the Visual J# compiler(vjc.exe). I'm not a C++ programmer so I don't know how to do the managed extensions. If you have Win2000 or above you can download an install.
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What most people don't realize is that.Net is actually free, as in beer. What you buy with Visual Studio.Net is the IDE and the Debugger not the compilers. You can down load the.Net Framework SDK for free. The SDK contains everything you need to develop any type of.Net application. It contains all the compilers, C++, C# and VB.Net and the complete.Net Framework. You can use notepad, emacs, SharpDevelop, what ever your favorite editor is to do your work.
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I think you are being a little naïve. That web sit is just the root. If you click on the Netblock owner (National Institutes of Health) link you'll see all the websites HHS runs. Not only are there are many MS servers there are also many Linux and Solaris as well. http://toolbar.netcraft.com/netblock?q=NIHNET-2,13 7.187.0.0,137.187.255.255
Your misquoting the article. The figures for Unix and Windows was $5.2 billion and $4.6 billion for the forth quarter only. That anualizes to $20.8 billion and $18.4 billion for the year. The Linux number is for the whole year.
When it comes to operating systems, Unix and Windows servers continued to grow. Unix server revenue was $5.2 billion in the fourth quarter of 2004 while the corresponding figure for Windows was $4.6 billion.
Linux servers represented 9 percent of worldwide server revenue in 2004, which is 35.6 percent growth compared to the year before.
If you believe this then what do lines of source code have to do with free speech. If free speech is to be real it has to apply to everything not just ideas that a particular group agrees with.
What is the famous free speech cliche "I don't agree with what you are saying, but I will defend your right to say it"
I know most /.'s will find this hard to believe but M$ has always provided a huge amount of source code in an open source fashion. Just visit MSDN and you'll see of examples of free sample code. Then go to the code center where you can find tons of free demonstration applications that you can use to build your own app. For example the company I work for has used User Interface Process Application Block for .NET and Exception Management Application Block for .NET from their patterns and practices site to form the basis of an Enterprise scale business application. Of course the code is generally sample applications for Business purposes. But code like this has been available from M$ since before the internet boom.
Your right PJ is top notch. However, I have a gut feel about this and it's bad. Maybe she's also being scamed. I say again stay away from this.
No one needs this. Don't waist your money.
It would seem that Gforge is /.ed. I would be thinking the move over if I was FSF.
The article states that M$ does not innovate enough to justify the cost. I read that as a call to the community to do some real innovating when it's our turn. So far we've done precious little than copy someone who's not innovating.
It raised the hair on the back of my neck. It was a cold rainy day in So. Illinois. My wife and kids had gone to bed. I couldn't believe what I was seeing.
A little remembered fact about the commercial is that "Big Brother" is IBM. They were the Microsoft of the 70s and 80s. Lets hope they don't revert to their old ways.
I've gone to the last two PDCs and Microsoft has been very forth comming with details. They do alot of examples during their presentations. They give away a lot of software. In the PDC this year every attendie got a copy of all versions of Longhorn (x86, IA64, x64, etc.), a copy of Yukon (the next version of SQL server), a copy of the next version of Visual Studio and a copy of Office 2003. As allways the .NET SDK is available free for download.
Finally a post that has real thought behind it. If more of the community thought the way you do then the predictions of the chest beaters like ESR might come true a little sooner.
It sure does. VB.NET is vbc.exe and VC++ is indeed cl.exe. It also include a shit load of other stuff. A .Net Assembler Linker(al.exe), three ASP.NET exes, the IL assembler and disassembler (ilasm.exe and ildasm.exe), a java script compiler(jsc.exe), a utility to convert IL to native code(ngen.exe) and the Visual J# compiler(vjc.exe). I'm not a C++ programmer so I don't know how to do the managed extensions. If you have Win2000 or above you can download an install.
What most people don't realize is that .Net is actually free, as in beer. What you buy with Visual Studio .Net is the IDE and the Debugger not the compilers. You can down load the .Net Framework SDK for free. The SDK contains everything you need to develop any type of .Net application. It contains all the compilers, C++, C# and VB.Net and the complete .Net Framework. You can use notepad, emacs, SharpDevelop, what ever your favorite editor is to do your work.
Just a little reminder.