Lost in the moronic editing by the eggs-and-dye-mostly department:
After the Falcon 9's first-stage section separated from the upper-stage motor and Dragon capsule, the discarded rocket relit some of its engines to slow its fall back through the atmosphere and position itself to touch down vertically on the ocean before gravity turned it horizontal. The booster also was equipped with four 25-foot-long landings for stabilization.
Data transmitted from an airplane tracking the booster's descent indicated it splashed down intact in the Atlantic Ocean - a first for the company.
"Data upload from tracking plane shows landing in Atlantic was good! Several boats enroute through heavy seas," SpaceX's chief executive, Elon Musk, posted on Twitter late Friday.
This is a Big Fucking Deal. SpaceX publicly gave odds for this working at about 1 in 3. This is an important incremental step in (literally) landing their lower stages, rather than trashing them (like every other launch system) or attempting to recover them after splashdown (like shuttle boosters).
That sounds like a Mint thing. Seriously, Debian (the great grandparent of Mint) had the patch as fast as anybody. Heck, by the time I logged into my Mac at work, MacPorts had pushed the patch.
I wouldn't make such a sweeping statement about the "situation" when you've hitched your wagon to a project that's pulling from a project that's pulling from a project that's (etc).
It was clear from the beginning that Debian accelerating its release schedule from "plate tectonic" to "glacial" would bite us all in the ass! We've flown too close to the sun yet again!
Canonical also dump buckets of money into a lot of things that are either of no interest to me (Ubuntuphones) or actively putting me off Ubuntu (divergence away from mainstream Debian and linux in general because of NIH syndrome). Covering such losses with cheap tricks like feeding Amazon search (yes, I know I can turn it off) just makes them even more unappealing.
If Canonical stopped tilting at windmills for five minutes and invested their money in finding ways to sell more real services, they'd probably be better off.
It might be far less nefarious; maybe engineers designing these things are so used to grey-on-yellow that it has become the generic de facto color scheme for multimeters.
Formerly? I use IceWeasel all the time, and I didn't know about this. Oh, wait:
The gNewSense BurningDog browser and the Debian IceWeasel browser are similarly derived from Firefox, also with the intent of being free software. Technically, however, these projects are maintained entirely independently of IceCat. (Previously, this GNU browser project was also named IceWeasel, but that proved confusing.)
Yeah, you know, that is pretty darned confusing, since I think that if you ask 100 slashdot users about IceWeasel, at least 99 would be thinking of the widely-distributed Debian software that originated the name...
The same said history lead our predecessors to make investments in security and regulation that make muggings and cons less likely and more risky today than they were historically.
He was unhappy that new routers in the future might be incompatible with his old printer, necessitating him replacing his printer... but that assumes he has to replace his router. Getting mad about it now is something like shouting at clouds.
Because let's face it, it's pretty unrealistic to get bent out of shape because you can't buy daisy wheels or get 14k modem service anymore. Technology will evolve and things we use today will become obsolete, and we'll replace them when we have to or when we want to. Nobody is coming into your house and taking your 802.11b router away from you; on the other hand, there's no sane reason to believe that you'll always be able to buy compatible accessories.
I wonder if "First time accepted submitter inqrorken" comes from a warm climate; I remember that the facilities managers at a national park near where I lived would price out fuel oil, diesel, and Jet-A for oil-burning home heat in the employee housing every hear. The prices fluctuate based on a lot of factors, including refinery over-runs, gluts and shortages based on transport industries, etc., so while it was unlikely, it wasn't unheard of for Jet-A to be the cheapest option.
If your password for Adobe is Adobe123, and Adobe leaks your password (AGAIN), nobody is going to be getting into your email, or your facebook account, or your bank account, etc., etc.
You do realize that they have to eat either way, right, and that the only difference here is that they will prioritize the fresh food for consumption first. Obviously they need preserved food but there's no reason for them to eat it exclusively, since its only advantage is that it lasts longer. This is what the world's navies have known for only about three thousand years...
The ban is for participating. He will certainly never be awarded a grant as a principle investigator ever again, which has already crippled his career. At best, in the future, he might be able to limp along somewhere as a second-rung researcher.
What this means he can't work for any federally-financed research in any capacity (as an employee, collaborator, in-kind supporter, etc.) for three years. Since pretty much all research in his field includes some federal component, that's a three year exile from his entire career, and about as close as you can get to a career death sentence.
You know how a Mac is a tough sell to "internet tough guys" because they bitch about how it can't be upgraded, even though they typically just buy all new parts and build new PCs for each upgrade cycle rather than swapping individual parts?
Think the same thing, only "tough truck guys," people who have probably never done any body work on a car, will complain that they can't repair aluminum themselves even though repairing steel is "trivial" or something. Aluminum comes up as a candidate for car manufacture every decade or so, and I distinctly remember this "complaint" from the last time around.
Nice backpedal, but it doesn't matter. I have no intention of convincing you that you're wrong, since it's pretty clear that you're willfully ignorant.
I responded twice because I wanted to make sure that other casual readers that spotted your unfortunately modded crap would have a chance to see it picked apart. To the uninitiated like yourself, the "chlorinated organics are as safe as chlorinated bleach" line sounds perfectly logical, since they both have the same word in them. It's important that people who actually have the ability to discern such differences can see them pointed out, so that they don't pick up a new and dangerously false misconception.
I'm not saying they were completely ignored, but there weren't any histrionics. It was a fire DRILL, not a fire, and we kids just goofed off on the playground. The cops certainly weren't concerned either; they made a cursory check because that's their job.
Fast forward to 2007, I'm working as a teacher at a very large, affluent suburban school, and the *one* time in six years that we got a bomb threat caused absolute pandemonium. Lockdown, class cancelled for the rest of the day, helicopters flying overhead, and a student's diorama (found in a hallway) was treated like a suspected IED. Local news went into hysterics and interviewed concerned parents outside the school, asking them about 911. The next day, attendance was about 50%.
I'd call what happened when I was a kid routine, and I agree with the OP that kids calling in bomb threats was so common when we were growing up that it was practically a cliche. I'm not defending it, and only a really stupid or sociopathic kid would have done it, but it happened and it happened much more often than it does now.
I'd call what happened when I was a teacher insane.
And yet it happened at least every other year for me, and I went to middle and high school in the early/mid 90s in a tiny town in the middle of nowhere. We'd go into fire-drill mode and the cops would do a quick search of the school. Then we'd go back and take our tests.
Don't expect anybody to take you seriously if the best you can do is counter an anecdote with an anecdote, because yours is no more valid than his or mine.
Wrong, so wrong, on so many levels. You have absolutely no idea what you are talking about from a chemical or medical perspective.
Your chlorinated kitchen cleanser uses chlorine bleach (sodium hypochlorite). It kills because it is a strong oxidizer.
Triclosan and triclocarban are organic molecules (two benzene rings with a bridge) with chlorine atoms substituted for some of the hydrogens. They are capable of entering cells and disrupting enzyme pathways, a completely different approach from bleach, and one that is essentially the same as most oral antibiotics. The biggest practical difference between these antimicrobials and many antibiotics is that ingesting these compounds in sufficient strength to kill bacteria would also kill you.
The difference between triclocarban and sodium hypochlorite is, chemically, the difference between oil and water: THEY ARE NOT EVEN CLOSE IN PROPERTIES OR FUNCTION.
The concentrations of these chemicals when used in surgical soaps is many, many times higher than it is in personal care products, because we place a premium on sterility for surgery. The quantity present in most personal care products is pointless for the intended purpose, and they have been demonstrated to be endocrine disruptors, to accumulate in human tissue, to accumulate in the solid byproduct of waste-water treatment, to accumulate in sediment downstream of said treatment plants, and there is a strong suggestion that these environmental reservoirs will exert a selective pressure towards resistance in the exact bugs that we don't want to resist them.
The surgical soaps that use the same anti-microbials use them in much, much larger doses where a premium is paid for sterility. The quantity present in most personal care products is pointless for the intended purpose, and they have been demonstrated to be endocrine disruptors, to accumulate in human tissue, to accumulate in the solid byproduct of waste-water treatment, to accumulate in sediment downstream of said treatment plants, and there is a strong suggestion that these environmental reservoirs will exert a selective pressure towards resistance in the exact bugs that we don't want to resist them.
Then again, I don't expect an internet blow-hard to be educated in nor do research in medical matters, considering that you're the guy who just said they're "not antibiotics" because they're just "chlorinated compounds" that "poison" the bacteria. Here's a clue: nobody is arguing that resistance to triclocarban will cause resistance to penicillian. People in the know don't want bacteria that are resistant to triclocarban and they don't think that worthless claims about handsoap and toothpaste are worth the human and bacteriological risks.
It's pretty obvious that you've got, at best, a high-school level understanding of the mechanisms at work. While I applaud your interest in the subject, I would suggest you back down from your high horse just a bit.
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Lost in the moronic editing by the eggs-and-dye-mostly department:
After the Falcon 9's first-stage section separated from the upper-stage motor and Dragon capsule, the discarded rocket relit some of its engines to slow its fall back through the atmosphere and position itself to touch down vertically on the ocean before gravity turned it horizontal. The booster also was equipped with four 25-foot-long landings for stabilization.
Data transmitted from an airplane tracking the booster's descent indicated it splashed down intact in the Atlantic Ocean - a first for the company.
"Data upload from tracking plane shows landing in Atlantic was good! Several boats enroute through heavy seas," SpaceX's chief executive, Elon Musk, posted on Twitter late Friday.
This is a Big Fucking Deal. SpaceX publicly gave odds for this working at about 1 in 3. This is an important incremental step in (literally) landing their lower stages, rather than trashing them (like every other launch system) or attempting to recover them after splashdown (like shuttle boosters).
Well, that just makes OP all the more rediculous. I can't believe he's modded to 5 now.
That sounds like a Mint thing. Seriously, Debian (the great grandparent of Mint) had the patch as fast as anybody. Heck, by the time I logged into my Mac at work, MacPorts had pushed the patch.
I wouldn't make such a sweeping statement about the "situation" when you've hitched your wagon to a project that's pulling from a project that's pulling from a project that's (etc).
It was clear from the beginning that Debian accelerating its release schedule from "plate tectonic" to "glacial" would bite us all in the ass! We've flown too close to the sun yet again!
Canonical also dump buckets of money into a lot of things that are either of no interest to me (Ubuntuphones) or actively putting me off Ubuntu (divergence away from mainstream Debian and linux in general because of NIH syndrome). Covering such losses with cheap tricks like feeding Amazon search (yes, I know I can turn it off) just makes them even more unappealing.
If Canonical stopped tilting at windmills for five minutes and invested their money in finding ways to sell more real services, they'd probably be better off.
Wouldn't Wheezy (7) be oldstable when Jessie (8) becomes stable?
Now Squeeze (6) will be oldoldstable =)
It might be far less nefarious; maybe engineers designing these things are so used to grey-on-yellow that it has become the generic de facto color scheme for multimeters.
My trusty old BK is the same color:
http://www.bkprecision.com/pro...
That's why IceCat (formerly Ice Weasel) exists.
Formerly? I use IceWeasel all the time, and I didn't know about this. Oh, wait:
The gNewSense BurningDog browser and the Debian IceWeasel browser are similarly derived from Firefox, also with the intent of being free software. Technically, however, these projects are maintained entirely independently of IceCat. (Previously, this GNU browser project was also named IceWeasel, but that proved confusing.)
Yeah, you know, that is pretty darned confusing, since I think that if you ask 100 slashdot users about IceWeasel, at least 99 would be thinking of the widely-distributed Debian software that originated the name...
The same said history lead our predecessors to make investments in security and regulation that make muggings and cons less likely and more risky today than they were historically.
He was unhappy that new routers in the future might be incompatible with his old printer, necessitating him replacing his printer... but that assumes he has to replace his router. Getting mad about it now is something like shouting at clouds.
Because let's face it, it's pretty unrealistic to get bent out of shape because you can't buy daisy wheels or get 14k modem service anymore. Technology will evolve and things we use today will become obsolete, and we'll replace them when we have to or when we want to. Nobody is coming into your house and taking your 802.11b router away from you; on the other hand, there's no sane reason to believe that you'll always be able to buy compatible accessories.
Why am I going to replace functional hardware JUST to "fix" a problem that isn't really a problem for me ?
Then why are you replacing your functional 802.11g router, smart guy?
I wonder if "First time accepted submitter inqrorken" comes from a warm climate; I remember that the facilities managers at a national park near where I lived would price out fuel oil, diesel, and Jet-A for oil-burning home heat in the employee housing every hear. The prices fluctuate based on a lot of factors, including refinery over-runs, gluts and shortages based on transport industries, etc., so while it was unlikely, it wasn't unheard of for Jet-A to be the cheapest option.
Comparing today's HP to the HP of the 80s, I'm inclined to side with Schiller.
If your password for Adobe is Adobe123, and Adobe leaks your password (AGAIN), nobody is going to be getting into your email, or your facebook account, or your bank account, etc., etc.
This whole friggin' story could have been avoided if Poindexter had taken off his stupid Google Glass in a MOVIE THEATER.
That said, if I owned the theater, I would have just kicked him out and told him his business wasn't welcome.
And replace them with what, MREs? Because...?
You do realize that they have to eat either way, right, and that the only difference here is that they will prioritize the fresh food for consumption first. Obviously they need preserved food but there's no reason for them to eat it exclusively, since its only advantage is that it lasts longer. This is what the world's navies have known for only about three thousand years...
The ban is for participating. He will certainly never be awarded a grant as a principle investigator ever again, which has already crippled his career. At best, in the future, he might be able to limp along somewhere as a second-rung researcher.
What this means he can't work for any federally-financed research in any capacity (as an employee, collaborator, in-kind supporter, etc.) for three years. Since pretty much all research in his field includes some federal component, that's a three year exile from his entire career, and about as close as you can get to a career death sentence.
You know how a Mac is a tough sell to "internet tough guys" because they bitch about how it can't be upgraded, even though they typically just buy all new parts and build new PCs for each upgrade cycle rather than swapping individual parts?
Think the same thing, only "tough truck guys," people who have probably never done any body work on a car, will complain that they can't repair aluminum themselves even though repairing steel is "trivial" or something. Aluminum comes up as a candidate for car manufacture every decade or so, and I distinctly remember this "complaint" from the last time around.
Wow. Such skeptic. Much insight. Many original thoughts.
Nice backpedal, but it doesn't matter. I have no intention of convincing you that you're wrong, since it's pretty clear that you're willfully ignorant.
I responded twice because I wanted to make sure that other casual readers that spotted your unfortunately modded crap would have a chance to see it picked apart. To the uninitiated like yourself, the "chlorinated organics are as safe as chlorinated bleach" line sounds perfectly logical, since they both have the same word in them. It's important that people who actually have the ability to discern such differences can see them pointed out, so that they don't pick up a new and dangerously false misconception.
I'm not saying they were completely ignored, but there weren't any histrionics. It was a fire DRILL, not a fire, and we kids just goofed off on the playground. The cops certainly weren't concerned either; they made a cursory check because that's their job.
Fast forward to 2007, I'm working as a teacher at a very large, affluent suburban school, and the *one* time in six years that we got a bomb threat caused absolute pandemonium. Lockdown, class cancelled for the rest of the day, helicopters flying overhead, and a student's diorama (found in a hallway) was treated like a suspected IED. Local news went into hysterics and interviewed concerned parents outside the school, asking them about 911. The next day, attendance was about 50%.
I'd call what happened when I was a kid routine, and I agree with the OP that kids calling in bomb threats was so common when we were growing up that it was practically a cliche. I'm not defending it, and only a really stupid or sociopathic kid would have done it, but it happened and it happened much more often than it does now.
I'd call what happened when I was a teacher insane.
And yet it happened at least every other year for me, and I went to middle and high school in the early/mid 90s in a tiny town in the middle of nowhere. We'd go into fire-drill mode and the cops would do a quick search of the school. Then we'd go back and take our tests.
Don't expect anybody to take you seriously if the best you can do is counter an anecdote with an anecdote, because yours is no more valid than his or mine.
Wrong, so wrong, on so many levels. You have absolutely no idea what you are talking about from a chemical or medical perspective.
Your chlorinated kitchen cleanser uses chlorine bleach (sodium hypochlorite). It kills because it is a strong oxidizer.
Triclosan and triclocarban are organic molecules (two benzene rings with a bridge) with chlorine atoms substituted for some of the hydrogens. They are capable of entering cells and disrupting enzyme pathways, a completely different approach from bleach, and one that is essentially the same as most oral antibiotics. The biggest practical difference between these antimicrobials and many antibiotics is that ingesting these compounds in sufficient strength to kill bacteria would also kill you.
The difference between triclocarban and sodium hypochlorite is, chemically, the difference between oil and water: THEY ARE NOT EVEN CLOSE IN PROPERTIES OR FUNCTION.
The concentrations of these chemicals when used in surgical soaps is many, many times higher than it is in personal care products, because we place a premium on sterility for surgery. The quantity present in most personal care products is pointless for the intended purpose, and they have been demonstrated to be endocrine disruptors, to accumulate in human tissue, to accumulate in the solid byproduct of waste-water treatment, to accumulate in sediment downstream of said treatment plants, and there is a strong suggestion that these environmental reservoirs will exert a selective pressure towards resistance in the exact bugs that we don't want to resist them.
And before that, there was sound ranging!
The surgical soaps that use the same anti-microbials use them in much, much larger doses where a premium is paid for sterility. The quantity present in most personal care products is pointless for the intended purpose, and they have been demonstrated to be endocrine disruptors, to accumulate in human tissue, to accumulate in the solid byproduct of waste-water treatment, to accumulate in sediment downstream of said treatment plants, and there is a strong suggestion that these environmental reservoirs will exert a selective pressure towards resistance in the exact bugs that we don't want to resist them.
Then again, I don't expect an internet blow-hard to be educated in nor do research in medical matters, considering that you're the guy who just said they're "not antibiotics" because they're just "chlorinated compounds" that "poison" the bacteria. Here's a clue: nobody is arguing that resistance to triclocarban will cause resistance to penicillian. People in the know don't want bacteria that are resistant to triclocarban and they don't think that worthless claims about handsoap and toothpaste are worth the human and bacteriological risks.
It's pretty obvious that you've got, at best, a high-school level understanding of the mechanisms at work. While I applaud your interest in the subject, I would suggest you back down from your high horse just a bit.