The problem is that there are not enough lamp posts for having one to a post. Hanging several on one post would likely break the posts and then we'd all be in the dark. There also would be a problem with finding and then wasting so much good rope. A cheaper and more elegant solution to this can surely be found by some enterprising/. techies?
..... so I would expect a just magistrate to intervene according to U.S. law........
That's precisely my point or question, does US law apply to foreigners in living in a foreign land? It seems the **AA found out that it does not apply in Norway, but that Norwegian law rules and under that law he did nothing wrong. So how is this different? Is the Spamhaus.org not in the UK? Does the US have an agreement with the UK government to enforce US court decrees in the UK? Why did a US court accept this case in the first place and then and rule on a defendant in another country? Should the plaintiff not have been told by both the court and competent lawyers to go and sue the people in the defendant's court system and laws? Of course a court in the UK would likely have thrown the case out immediately if not sooner. It seems that in the US it always possible to find a judge somewhere who will rule favorably on most any subject.
....They could also get a.de name. Something beyond the jurisdiction of a US. Court........
Since when does a US court have legal power of.org,.com,.net or any other domain whose user and owner never sets foot in the US? Are certain domain names under US fiefdom and not others?
....they are effectively taking Spamhaus's word that mail from that domain is worth blocking........
How is this different from a bank taking the word of a credit reporting company such as Experian, for example, that you are a deadbeat and should not get that loan for a new car? If you are truly creditworthy, and your credit report is in error, you have to take that up with Experian, not with the bank.
Similarly, if anyone is listed as a spammer, Spamhaus should have a mechanism in place to correct erroneous spam list entries. Instead of getting expensive lawyers involved, I wonder if the plaintiffs ever tried to present their position of innocence of being a spammer to Spamhaus.org.
......US courts don't have any authority over them.....
Indeed, how is it that a US judge even takes it upon himself to issue an order to anyone located in another sovereign country? Even the **AA had to sue DVD Jon under the laws and courts of his own country. I have always thought that foreign laws and court orders don't apply to US citizens, nor do US laws apply to foreigners unless they are physically present in the US.
Besides, a DNS entry is only a convenience for humans. Even if the judge illegally gets the name taken away, the IP cannot be taken away. Therefore the computer can still be reached under that IP.
It costs about $20 and lets 4 alkaline batteries run your ipod or any other music player that has a USB connector. I have a 4G ipod the battery of which is almost gone. However, since I use it either at home or in the car, it doesn't really matter. I wonder whether there are many music listeners that use their players with outside power sources?
...... Isn't the biggest drawback of DRM that you are locked into a specific implementation?.....
Life is a chancy game in many ways. DRM is a chance you can choose to take or not. Buy Cds and rip them or buy music online in DRM free format if you don't want to take a chance of losing it because DRM content is by nature not able to be backed up. If that one vendor chooses to no longer support their special locked crap then everything you bought from them will die when whatever hardware you can now still play it on craps out and cannot be replaced. Old 78 records are about the only audio recording someone will be able to play 100 years from now. They can spin it by hand and play it with a cactus thorn.
.....but there's a reason Jesus' name doesn't show up in the Constitution....
You are surely right about that! That is a good thing too, because in this country, contrary to where the founders had escaped from, we have the freedom of religion, but not the freedom FROM religion. Everyone may worship as they please. Even the religion of no religion is a religion based on faith, just like any other. No Atheists knows for sure there is no God, they BELIEVE this just as much as the Christian believe that there is. If you study culture and anthropology you'll learn that there is NO group of humans anywhere today, nor has there EVER been that did not have some kind of religion based on beliefs. Humans are incurably religious still today and all evidence indicates this was always the case.
Our founding fathers believed in the God of the Bible, and that all human rights come from Him because He alone can give life. Every one of the framers of the constitution believed that God alone is the source of life and "inalienable rights" that as part of this life from Him. No human nor any government can give or produce life. For this reason, no human can give any right whatsoever to any other human. All that humans from Cain onward could do and always did was take away other human's lives and their rights. Jesus, God come to Earth as a man, was the only one whom it is even claimed to have raised the dead and who Himself alone conquered death. There is not ONE law that was ever passed by any human that did NOT take away or at least curtail some right that previously belonged to everyone.
It was not intended as flamebait, but it is the simple truth. This country was founded on Christian principles. It is upon the Christian God, Jesus Christ as we read in the Bible, that this country was founded. You can deem that fiction if you like, but that does NOT alter history. Many today would like to and do attempt to rewrite US history. I hope you are not one of those.
.....As for the fact that a right is a restriction on government, rather than something the government grants,......
No Government anywhere on this planet can grant *any* rights, only take them away. Only the Creator God can grant life, and therefore any right that goes along with that. Our founding fathers knew this, but today many have forgotten this very fundamental fact. Our forefathers codified some of the rights from God, that come with His gift of life to us and wrote them down as limitations on the Government. God gave life and the rights and responsibilities that go with it to the people and expects them to flesh that out with all the needed details. That is at least how it is supposed to work, but there are always people who for selfish reasons pervert these to their own advantage.
..... I'd argue that many of the rights we deem to be 'natural rights' have no basis in nature........
Rights can only be given out by a sovereign power, not by some impersonal nebulous thing such as "nature". The founding fathers rightly attributed this to our Creator who endowed us "with inalienable rights" upon which our constitution and all our laws are based. God, as the ultimate and only sovereign in the Universe has given us humans certain rights and responsibilities to be exercised under His ultimate sovereignty. This is true, whether atheists like it or not. Many of these rights were codified in our constitution in order to limit and direct the powers of government.
Congress is directed therein to formulate copyright and its duration. Once that was done by Congress, it doesn't matter much, whether you call it a right or privilege, it's just another law. As representatives of the people, they should and ultimately do pay attention to the people if they perceive that a significant percentage of the voters care about a certain issue. Other than for those directly involved with copyright, most people don't really care all that much about coyrights. That's why those that DO care were able to persuade the politicians with money to pass DMCA and expand copyright duration. Only if enough people care about these things, will the law be changed by these same politicians or their successors.
.....Why do you think Apple is so vehemently resisting osx86?.....
Apple builds computers, just as HP. Dell and all the rest that use the same Intel processors. Apple happens to be the only one of them that also makes the OS and some other very good programs to give their customers a superior overall product. It is the SOFTWARE that makes their computers good and useable and is an INTEGRAL part of their product, not some add-on like all the others. Why shouldn't Apple take every possible step they can to prevent others from ripping off the heart of their product and incorporating it into their own? Let HP, Dell and all the rest write great software for their products instead of using some generic "me too" software.
Stupid car analogy of the computer business:
Ford, GM, Honda, Toyota cars of the future will be standardized and not manufacture engines, transmissions or wheels any longer. These will be supplied to any car maker by a huge new joint venture called "Autosoft" which will make these common, expensive components for all cars. Autosoft components will run 95% of all automobiles. Volkswagen will continue to make these critical parts themselves and will therefore only have 2% or less market share.
....But how do you verify that the election results were legitimate....
Since they are paper ballots, as they have been before hackable electronics were invented, they are as legitimate as they have always been since elections began. In electronic voting ONE clever hacker or bribed election worker can affect thousands of votes for any given candidate. In old fashioned paper voting, messing up large numbers of votes is also possible, but much harder, because of necessity the process to do so would need to involve a much larger number of conspirators. What is the advantage of electronic voting other than that the results can be tabulated a little faster? In the end, accuracy reliability and honesty are orders of magnitude more important that counting votes faster and generating statistics for the media to spout on election night.
Electronic voting should to be banned until can be GUARANTEED to be at least as reliable as good old paper. Automated counting of black marks on paper is at least 50 years old and has been tested to be far more reliable than depending ephemeral, fleeting, binary bits, that can disappear or be altered without so much of a trace.
Here in Oregon they have no exit polls because there are no polls. Everybody votes by mail with paper ballots. Alternatively, on election day there are special boxes where voters may deposit their sealed and signed ballot envelopes. The ballots are electronically counted, the same way as SAT tests and other such marked forms. Maybe that is a pretty good system for other states to check into.
........The government can force you to testify in a civil case as it not prohibited in the amendment.........
Which means that if you refuse to give the password on government order in a civil case, then you get put in jail, just like any other criminal. After all only criminals go to jail, right? It seems that as soon as they make you a criminal by refusing to obey the dictates of the government, the amendment still should apply.
....Further, the 5th Amendment is understood to refer to the government compelling you.......
So if, in a civil case, the judge as a representative of the government says you must surrender the password and you refuse, he/she can use the governmental force to put you in jail for contempt of court? If you end up in jail for refusal to testify the password, how is that different if it had been in a criminal case? Either way, the government is trying to force you testify. Does the 5th amendment no longer protect against the government forcing a person to do this? It seems to me that the 5th amendment should protect against any kind of governmental coercion to testify, regardless of who the original entity was, private or public, that initiated the court action.
It's not that there MIGHT be breaks, but there WIll be. All DRM of every kind size and shape is just another security by obscurity scheme. We all know how secure THAT is. All these gyrations with hardware are efforts to make the existence of and access to the key harder. The fact of the matter is that the user MUST have the key if they are to play the damn content. This means at some point the key must be inserted into the lock and used to unlock the content. Either grabbing the key when it is in the lock, (no matter how obscure they try to make it) or the decoded content will ALWAYS break the DRM. Information theory says that DRM CANNOT work, because it depends on obscurity and that's NOT secure!.. period.
As long as there is ONE IP address anywhere on the worldwide internet that is outside of the control of the USA, there will be at least one place where the tools needed to break the obscurity model will be found.
.... How do you think our intuition and common sense work?.....
Anyone who can come up with an answer to that should win several Nobel prizes. Especially, how does female intuition work? It seems that common sense is gettng inreasingly uncommon these days as well.
....How about a personal movie collection in HD?....
Do you mean your own home movies or commercial ones? Once they have fiber to every house, you'll be able to watch every movie ever made on demand. One TByte should store about 31000 8 megapixel photos uncompressed. That's quite a collection I'd say.
Can VISTA handle such a large storage device? I thought some version of Windows max out at about 32Gbytes. (-: !!
.......You figure out how many small task can be repeated quickly with given inputs and outputs then you pass it on to the next task....
Exactly right, but that's called serial processing. breaking a large task (like building a car) into many small tasks speeds things up considerably, but they are still done SERIALLY. Just because a job is broken up into a lot of smaller pieces can and usually does speed things up quite a bit, the tasks themselves are still done in sequence. Getting a bunch people to assemble the major parts of a car together and working is a major part of the job. People are a lot smarter and easier to get to do things than computers and even so it is not easy. Getting computers to do this will be a lot harder. Programming today's computers with or four cores is hard, as VISTA shows. Doing this for 80 cores may be a real bear of a project.
......But Linux has been scheduling on systems with up to 1,024 processors already:)........
Scheduling is only a small subset of the larger problem. How do you break down tasks into parts that can be done simultaneously (parallel) and tasks that MUST be done sequentially and then put all that together into a coherent, useful result? Most thing people do and need done are sequential. Since computers are tools for people they must be taught to do things in parallel which are usually done serially. That is not always possible. The hardware is the easy part, It's the software that is hard. MS with their VISTA knows that by now.
..... I want 2-5tb in my cupboard, RAID5 5 disks or less and cheap.....
Unless you are storing data for others, what are you planning to store in all that space? Once you have it all stored, how are you going to find exactly what you want? Isn't Google's ambition to catalog all of the world's information? Once they do, all you'll really need is a fast internet connection.
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....hanged from lamp-posts ....
/. techies?
The problem is that there are not enough lamp posts for having one to a post. Hanging several on one post would likely break the posts and then we'd all be in the dark. There also would be a problem with finding and then wasting so much good rope. A cheaper and more elegant solution to this can surely be found by some enterprising
..... so I would expect a just magistrate to intervene according to U.S. law........
That's precisely my point or question, does US law apply to foreigners in living in a foreign land? It seems the **AA found out that it does not apply in Norway, but that Norwegian law rules and under that law he did nothing wrong. So how is this different? Is the Spamhaus.org not in the UK? Does the US have an agreement with the UK government to enforce US court decrees in the UK? Why did a US court accept this case in the first place and then and rule on a defendant in another country? Should the plaintiff not have been told by both the court and competent lawyers to go and sue the people in the defendant's court system and laws? Of course a court in the UK would likely have thrown the case out immediately if not sooner. It seems that in the US it always possible to find a judge somewhere who will rule favorably on most any subject.
....They could also get a .de name. Something beyond the jurisdiction of a US. Court........
.org, .com, .net or any other domain whose user and owner never sets foot in the US? Are certain domain names under US fiefdom and not others?
Since when does a US court have legal power of
....they are effectively taking Spamhaus's word that mail from that domain is worth blocking........
How is this different from a bank taking the word of a credit reporting company such as Experian, for example, that you are a deadbeat and should not get that loan for a new car? If you are truly creditworthy, and your credit report is in error, you have to take that up with Experian, not with the bank.
Similarly, if anyone is listed as a spammer, Spamhaus should have a mechanism in place to correct erroneous spam list entries. Instead of getting expensive lawyers involved, I wonder if the plaintiffs ever tried to present their position of innocence of being a spammer to Spamhaus.org.
......US courts don't have any authority over them.....
Indeed, how is it that a US judge even takes it upon himself to issue an order to anyone located in another sovereign country? Even the **AA had to sue DVD Jon under the laws and courts of his own country. I have always thought that foreign laws and court orders don't apply to US citizens, nor do US laws apply to foreigners unless they are physically present in the US.
Besides, a DNS entry is only a convenience for humans. Even if the judge illegally gets the name taken away, the IP cannot be taken away. Therefore the computer can still be reached under that IP.
....and if the battery runs out while I'm out and about, I simply buy a 4 pack of normal batteries, and it carrys on playing......
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Here is a cheap alternative for emergency use:
http://my.datexx.com/consumer/productinfo.html?p=
It costs about $20 and lets 4 alkaline batteries run your ipod or any other music player that has a USB connector. I have a 4G ipod the battery of which is almost gone. However, since I use it either at home or in the car, it doesn't really matter. I wonder whether there are many music listeners that use their players with outside power sources?
...... Isn't the biggest drawback of DRM that you are locked into a specific implementation? .....
Life is a chancy game in many ways. DRM is a chance you can choose to take or not. Buy Cds and rip them or buy music online in DRM free format if you don't want to take a chance of losing it because DRM content is by nature not able to be backed up. If that one vendor chooses to no longer support their special locked crap then everything you bought from them will die when whatever hardware you can now still play it on craps out and cannot be replaced. Old 78 records are about the only audio recording someone will be able to play 100 years from now. They can spin it by hand and play it with a cactus thorn.
.....but there's a reason Jesus' name doesn't show up in the Constitution....
You are surely right about that! That is a good thing too, because in this country, contrary to where the founders had escaped from, we have the freedom of religion, but not the freedom FROM religion. Everyone may worship as they please. Even the religion of no religion is a religion based on faith, just like any other. No Atheists knows for sure there is no God, they BELIEVE this just as much as the Christian believe that there is. If you study culture and anthropology you'll learn that there is NO group of humans anywhere today, nor has there EVER been that did not have some kind of religion based on beliefs. Humans are incurably religious still today and all evidence indicates this was always the case.
Our founding fathers believed in the God of the Bible, and that all human rights come from Him because He alone can give life. Every one of the framers of the constitution believed that God alone is the source of life and "inalienable rights" that as part of this life from Him. No human nor any government can give or produce life. For this reason, no human can give any right whatsoever to any other human. All that humans from Cain onward could do and always did was take away other human's lives and their rights. Jesus, God come to Earth as a man, was the only one whom it is even claimed to have raised the dead and who Himself alone conquered death. There is not ONE law that was ever passed by any human that did NOT take away or at least curtail some right that previously belonged to everyone.
......That's pure flamebait........
It was not intended as flamebait, but it is the simple truth. This country was founded on Christian principles. It is upon the Christian God, Jesus Christ as we read in the Bible, that this country was founded. You can deem that fiction if you like, but that does NOT alter history. Many today would like to and do attempt to rewrite US history. I hope you are not one of those.
.....As for the fact that a right is a restriction on government, rather than something the government grants,......
No Government anywhere on this planet can grant *any* rights, only take them away. Only the Creator God can grant life, and therefore any right that goes along with that. Our founding fathers knew this, but today many have forgotten this very fundamental fact. Our forefathers codified some of the rights from God, that come with His gift of life to us and wrote them down as limitations on the Government. God gave life and the rights and responsibilities that go with it to the people and expects them to flesh that out with all the needed details. That is at least how it is supposed to work, but there are always people who for selfish reasons pervert these to their own advantage.
..... I'd argue that many of the rights we deem to be 'natural rights' have no basis in nature........
Rights can only be given out by a sovereign power, not by some impersonal nebulous thing such as "nature". The founding fathers rightly attributed this to our Creator who endowed us "with inalienable rights" upon which our constitution and all our laws are based. God, as the ultimate and only sovereign in the Universe has given us humans certain rights and responsibilities to be exercised under His ultimate sovereignty. This is true, whether atheists like it or not. Many of these rights were codified in our constitution in order to limit and direct the powers of government.
Congress is directed therein to formulate copyright and its duration. Once that was done by Congress, it doesn't matter much, whether you call it a right or privilege, it's just another law. As representatives of the people, they should and ultimately do pay attention to the people if they perceive that a significant percentage of the voters care about a certain issue. Other than for those directly involved with copyright, most people don't really care all that much about coyrights. That's why those that DO care were able to persuade the politicians with money to pass DMCA and expand copyright duration. Only if enough people care about these things, will the law be changed by these same politicians or their successors.
.....Why do you think Apple is so vehemently resisting osx86?.....
Apple builds computers, just as HP. Dell and all the rest that use the same Intel processors. Apple happens to be the only one of them that also makes the OS and some other very good programs to give their customers a superior overall product. It is the SOFTWARE that makes their computers good and useable and is an INTEGRAL part of their product, not some add-on like all the others. Why shouldn't Apple take every possible step they can to prevent others from ripping off the heart of their product and incorporating it into their own? Let HP, Dell and all the rest write great software for their products instead of using some generic "me too" software.
Stupid car analogy of the computer business:
Ford, GM, Honda, Toyota cars of the future will be standardized and not manufacture engines, transmissions or wheels any longer. These will be supplied to any car maker by a huge new joint venture called "Autosoft" which will make these common, expensive components for all cars. Autosoft components will run 95% of all automobiles. Volkswagen will continue to make these critical parts themselves and will therefore only have 2% or less market share.
....But how do you verify that the election results were legitimate....
Since they are paper ballots, as they have been before hackable electronics were invented, they are as legitimate as they have always been since elections began. In electronic voting ONE clever hacker or bribed election worker can affect thousands of votes for any given candidate. In old fashioned paper voting, messing up large numbers of votes is also possible, but much harder, because of necessity the process to do so would need to involve a much larger number of conspirators. What is the advantage of electronic voting other than that the results can be tabulated a little faster? In the end, accuracy reliability and honesty are orders of magnitude more important that counting votes faster and generating statistics for the media to spout on election night.
Electronic voting should to be banned until can be GUARANTEED to be at least as reliable as good old paper. Automated counting of black marks on paper is at least 50 years old and has been tested to be far more reliable than depending ephemeral, fleeting, binary bits, that can disappear or be altered without so much of a trace.
Here in Oregon they have no exit polls because there are no polls. Everybody votes by mail with paper ballots. Alternatively, on election day there are special boxes where voters may deposit their sealed and signed ballot envelopes. The ballots are electronically counted, the same way as SAT tests and other such marked forms. Maybe that is a pretty good system for other states to check into.
....It will most like taste like chicken.....
More likely like rattlesnake or alligator, since T-Rex was a reptile
.....I'm willing to bet that the antenna is a thin wire that runs the length of the case......
A ferrite rod antenna doesn't have to be big an is very sensitive. Those have been in small AM radios for at least 25 years already.
.....Everyone who thinks Microsoft won't leverage Windows......
You made a mistake, -- you left out one word to mak your statement correct --
Everyone who thinks Microsoft won't TRY to leverage Windows....
........The government can force you to testify in a civil case as it not prohibited in the amendment.........
Which means that if you refuse to give the password on government order in a civil case, then you get put in jail, just like any other criminal. After all only criminals go to jail, right? It seems that as soon as they make you a criminal by refusing to obey the dictates of the government, the amendment still should apply.
....Further, the 5th Amendment is understood to refer to the government compelling you.......
So if, in a civil case, the judge as a representative of the government says you must surrender the password and you refuse, he/she can use the governmental force to put you in jail for contempt of court? If you end up in jail for refusal to testify the password, how is that different if it had been in a criminal case? Either way, the government is trying to force you testify. Does the 5th amendment no longer protect against the government forcing a person to do this? It seems to me that the 5th amendment should protect against any kind of governmental coercion to testify, regardless of who the original entity was, private or public, that initiated the court action.
....Sure, there might still be a few breaks.....
.. period.
It's not that there MIGHT be breaks, but there WIll be. All DRM of every kind size and shape is just another security by obscurity scheme. We all know how secure THAT is. All these gyrations with hardware are efforts to make the existence of and access to the key harder. The fact of the matter is that the user MUST have the key if they are to play the damn content. This means at some point the key must be inserted into the lock and used to unlock the content. Either grabbing the key when it is in the lock, (no matter how obscure they try to make it) or the decoded content will ALWAYS break the DRM. Information theory says that DRM CANNOT work, because it depends on obscurity and that's NOT secure!
As long as there is ONE IP address anywhere on the worldwide internet that is outside of the control of the USA, there will be at least one place where the tools needed to break the obscurity model will be found.
.... How do you think our intuition and common sense work?.....
Anyone who can come up with an answer to that should win several Nobel prizes. Especially, how does female intuition work? It seems that common sense is gettng inreasingly uncommon these days as well.
....How about a personal movie collection in HD?....
Do you mean your own home movies or commercial ones? Once they have fiber to every house, you'll be able to watch every movie ever made on demand. One TByte should store about 31000 8 megapixel photos uncompressed. That's quite a collection I'd say.
Can VISTA handle such a large storage device? I thought some version of Windows max out at about 32Gbytes. (-: !!
.......You figure out how many small task can be repeated quickly with given inputs and outputs then you pass it on to the next task....
Exactly right, but that's called serial processing. breaking a large task (like building a car) into many small tasks speeds things up considerably, but they are still done SERIALLY. Just because a job is broken up into a lot of smaller pieces can and usually does speed things up quite a bit, the tasks themselves are still done in sequence. Getting a bunch people to assemble the major parts of a car together and working is a major part of the job. People are a lot smarter and easier to get to do things than computers and even so it is not easy. Getting computers to do this will be a lot harder. Programming today's computers with or four cores is hard, as VISTA shows. Doing this for 80 cores may be a real bear of a project.
......But Linux has been scheduling on systems with up to 1,024 processors already :)........
Scheduling is only a small subset of the larger problem. How do you break down tasks into parts that can be done simultaneously (parallel) and tasks that MUST be done sequentially and then put all that together into a coherent, useful result? Most thing people do and need done are sequential. Since computers are tools for people they must be taught to do things in parallel which are usually done serially. That is not always possible. The hardware is the easy part, It's the software that is hard. MS with their VISTA knows that by now.
..... I want 2-5tb in my cupboard, RAID5 5 disks or less and cheap.....
Unless you are storing data for others, what are you planning to store in all that space? Once you have it all stored, how are you going to find exactly what you want? Isn't Google's ambition to catalog all of the world's information? Once they do, all you'll really need is a fast internet connection.