....that Corel managed to lose all their programmers and turned into annoying crowd of suits and marketoids. And this becomes a really worrying tendence.
Please, Mr. Spielberg, would you be so kind to stay away of this? Also, it's rumored you're going to shoot Space Odissey.... How about just taking a vacation for a year or two instead? Thanks alot. KuroiNeko, who's disappointed
Like this: ( ) I know all the tricks, and willing to contribute, gimme the code ( ) I know !@#$, but can probably draw yet another WISQL in Delphi ( ) there's a community, you know, they do things ( ) also by Hemos
....keep in mind that _you_ can change the things. Give your preference to alternative solutions, explain others, what is your choice, and why, be carefull about the way your money goes. Vendors are there to satisfy customers' needs, not buyers are to fill corporate pockets. Vote with your money. Don't buy into Sunday column hype, make your research and make _your_ choice. No one can serve two masters. If board thinks too much about share surge, they don't care about product quality anymore. We all have seen this. Quousque tandem abutere patientia nostra?!
At least TP/TC are public domain now. FPK is doing very well, you can still use Pascal. But hey, this is just syntax. My first language was Pascal, and there was a time I really hated to wirte a line in C. These days I just don't care. C? Pascal? Perl? Here you are. Zillions of lines of hi quality code, docs, examples and help. Welcome to programmers' paradise:)
At least TP/TC are public domain now. FPK is doing very well, you can still use Pascal. But hey, this is just syntax. My first language was Pascal, and there was a time I really hated to wirte a line in C. These days I just don't care. C? Pascal? Perl? Here you are. Zillions of lines of hi quality code, docs, examples and help. Welcome to proframmers' paradise:)
I wanna know why the heck this is rated flamebait?! I'm using Linux now, and I like it, but the hype raised by corporations around it is really killing a Good Thing! You should spend some of your time talking to newbies and hear how _they_ rate support they receive from RH or Corel! Sheesh, I'd hate to see Linux buried under corporate bloatware. There's nothing imagined in my post, I'm talking about the things I _know_, this is the reality, get it. It can't be good, or bad, it's just there, no matter how you rate it!
Get real, man. This is a share-healing hype for Corel and Inprise, not advertisement of Linux. I doubt there's a suit who never heared about Linux, it's been even in FinnAir in-flight zine. So what? Do _you_ feel any better now?
In no way. Inprise degraded from the one and only vendor of development tools to corba-schmorba supplier. Corel used to make not excellent, but sometimes useable, graphics package. They both lost the battle in their fields and now trying to re-gain strategic heights with the help of Linux. Their $2B is merely an air, they have no skilled personnel or great know-how behind them. Loosers. Forever. They can shake the boat and get JR Luser on their side. For day or two. And this hype makes me sick. I want my *BSD. Now.
You'd be even more surprised if you knew that Borland themselves use neither of their products. I'm not an ex-employee, tho. If wonder, just use your hex edit.
Corel Drrrrrrrraw buys Bugland? And aim $2B on Linux? Anyone care to share transition plan from Linux to *BSD? Really, I've been using Bugland's tools for years on a daily basis, up to D4, and I can tell you that it's a damn bloated buggy memory hog. And yes, WP 8, `productivity tool'.... Hehe, join any Linux newbie group and hear people WOEING about damn thing. They have enough pain with it, and dump it, and get back to Windoze. But distro maker doesn't care- they already got their money. Video kills the radio star.
Users are people who use computers. They do so to get their work done faster. If someone, to send a fax must type $ cat letter | ispell | fax and get it out in 10 sec, that's fast. If someone, to do the same must leave the keyboard, reach for the rodent, dig through menus and wait for minutes- that just sucks, no matter how `innovative' the whole click-o-rama looks. There are things as basic as gravity. And there's nothing as fast and as flexible as UNIX CLI. Period. And don't tell me about your poor secretary. If she's a slow typist, fire her.
1. newbie != idiot, most of newbies I know get it from freshmeat.net/gnu.org/kernel.org 2. Hype is a keyword. Many hardware companies, one of them mentioned in the article, are fast to jump in, but sign off as soon as it comes to real talk. 3. Fonts, printers, etc.... Re-compiling xfs doesn't require to sit by your box a week long punching cards and reading kilometer sheets, xmkmf;make, that's all, what's the problem?
I'd say they aren't serving society in any case. First they made these rules so that no one in his sane mind can understand them, now they charge you big $$$ to represent you in the court. The Universal Declaration of Human Rights states that everyone has a right to be a person in front of the law, now the law must be simple and effective so we don't need anyone between us and the law that is intedned to protect ourselves in a fair and clean way. We need no intermediates between us and our law in this world of ours.
I often see freeware fans being called spongers. Well, you can't have everything for free, indeed, but why should one avoid a chance to have something for gratis? On the other hand, is it necessary to make money of everything? How big is the piece of cake one can swallow without any risk? Someone had a nice idea, moreof, he managed to implement it, now these parasites come and tell him this is a gold mine. But it's obvious, because this is a good idea and it works. Int. Pat. can never stop `infrigment' or `piracy', so keep lawyers away. This world is _ours_.
Well, whatever happened before, I haven't feel more asahamed than now. Shortlisting one of the greatest scientists just because he already has enough awards, is unfair. I'm not telling that Gnome is good or bad. My point is that NO ONE compares to such prominent figures as Dr. Knuth, V. Cerf, E. F. Codd, N. Wirth and other outstanding minds. For ignorant script-kiddies that think Dr. Knuth is just an author of TeX, I would recommend visiting his website and having a look at the list of his work. Miguel de Icaza is excellent at programming. People like Dr. Knuth are programming itself.
So what does it do? Another `innovation'? And WTF is Internet Chapter 2? Is this that one invetned by Bill Clinton to provide us with a more contemporary solution than the old Internet invented by Al Gore? Damn, so much market-speak noise these days and I'm increasing the amount of useless posts by discussing useless things:/ Must go and DO SOMETHING!
I apologise for lame yelling, but I, honestly, tried to contact someone from Creative via e-mail to no avail:( So this is probably my only chance. My question is whether you are going to make specs of Infra CD-ROM drives available? This is a way cool product and I'd like to make my Linux box controllable with IR as well as my 3.11 is. Please, feel free to either respond through/. or email in private. TIA
It really matters what's behind the name. I doubt Microsoft paid enormous $$$ for their company name. Ditto, mentioned Yahoo, and not mentioned UNIX, Linux and a large number of names that have a success story to tell. Everyone knows Yahoo. I heared about Naviant, Whatever-gent, -ment or even -bent from this article. Swap v and i in Naviant and you'll get Naivant.... Someone, I bet, had already made that typo.... Also, everyone is talking globalisation but name makers don't seem to consider not-native speakers at all. If I have to pick my Bloomsbury each time I hear the company name.... Or transcribed in my native tongue it sounds like sh*t.... Oh, well....
Well, I must second John Murdoch's post. Normally, when a collar is employed, he enters a clan and everything is the matter of honour. I can barely imagine someone at IT dept. who had approved NT over UNIX 10 years ago now is taking his word back and adopting Linux, even if it comes from Whatever-Gaijin Japan. Loosing his face.... Impossiburu.... This makes a `vertical' barrier. Also, clans are allied with some clans and fighting with others. Allies' ablilty to adopt the said innovation:) makes `horizontal' barrier. Of course, it can be impressive from the tech's point of view, but I suspect that Oracle is just getting its press.... Let's see if Big Boys jump in the game....
But who, for Heaven, told you that Windoze UI is good? Pick any ergonomic research out there and you'll find M$ stuff among examples of how things shouldn't look and feel. On the other hand, KDE is an excellent effort to attract current Windoze users to Linux. J. Luser just needs time to grow and mature, to feel the Freedom, and, trust me, if KDE is designed as good as they say, current KDE users will transform it dramatically. So, T.C. is right- there's nothing for UNIXoids in KDE. I'm happy with OpenLook. But that's just me:)
I'll second this request. Probably, the title could be smth like `Mathematics and Algorithms'. As to me, this is really wanted. I don't care too much about crypto and such, but news on computation theory, algs, data processing would be very usefull. Or called it `Applied Math'
....that Corel managed to lose all their
programmers and turned into annoying crowd of
suits and marketoids.
And this becomes a really worrying tendence.
Please, Mr. Spielberg, would you be so kind to
stay away of this? Also, it's rumored you're
going to shoot Space Odissey.... How about just
taking a vacation for a year or two instead?
Thanks alot.
KuroiNeko, who's disappointed
Gee, it looks like the poll needs another option:
( ) Free beer!
Like this:
( ) I know all the tricks, and willing to contribute, gimme the code
( ) I know !@#$, but can probably draw yet another WISQL in Delphi
( ) there's a community, you know, they do things
( ) also by Hemos
....keep in mind that _you_ can change the things.
Give your preference to alternative solutions,
explain others, what is your choice, and why, be
carefull about the way your money goes. Vendors
are there to satisfy customers' needs, not buyers
are to fill corporate pockets. Vote with your
money. Don't buy into Sunday column hype, make
your research and make _your_ choice. No one can
serve two masters. If board thinks too much about
share surge, they don't care about product quality anymore. We all have seen this. Quousque tandem abutere patientia nostra?!
At least TP/TC are public domain now. FPK is :)
doing very well, you can still use Pascal. But
hey, this is just syntax. My first language was
Pascal, and there was a time I really hated to
wirte a line in C. These days I just don't care.
C? Pascal? Perl? Here you are. Zillions of lines
of hi quality code, docs, examples and help.
Welcome to programmers' paradise
At least TP/TC are public domain now. FPK is :)
doing very well, you can still use Pascal. But
hey, this is just syntax. My first language was
Pascal, and there was a time I really hated to
wirte a line in C. These days I just don't care.
C? Pascal? Perl? Here you are. Zillions of lines
of hi quality code, docs, examples and help.
Welcome to proframmers' paradise
I wanna know why the heck this is rated
flamebait?! I'm using Linux now, and I like it,
but the hype raised by corporations around it is
really killing a Good Thing! You should spend
some of your time talking to newbies and hear
how _they_ rate support they receive from RH or
Corel! Sheesh, I'd hate to see Linux buried under
corporate bloatware. There's nothing imagined in
my post, I'm talking about the things I _know_,
this is the reality, get it. It can't be good, or bad, it's just there, no matter how you rate it!
Get real, man. This is a share-healing hype for
Corel and Inprise, not advertisement of Linux.
I doubt there's a suit who never heared about Linux,
it's been even in FinnAir in-flight zine. So
what? Do _you_ feel any better now?
In no way. Inprise degraded from the one and only
vendor of development tools to corba-schmorba
supplier. Corel used to make not excellent, but
sometimes useable, graphics package. They both
lost the battle in their fields and now trying to
re-gain strategic heights with the help of Linux.
Their $2B is merely an air, they have no skilled
personnel or great know-how behind them.
Loosers. Forever. They can shake the boat and
get JR Luser on their side. For day or two. And this hype makes me sick. I want my *BSD. Now.
You'd be even more surprised if you knew that
Borland themselves use neither of their products.
I'm not an ex-employee, tho. If wonder, just
use your hex edit.
Corel Drrrrrrrraw buys Bugland? And aim $2B on
Linux? Anyone care to share transition plan from
Linux to *BSD? Really, I've been using Bugland's
tools for years on a daily basis, up to D4, and I
can tell you that it's a damn bloated buggy memory
hog. And yes, WP 8, `productivity tool'.... Hehe,
join any Linux newbie group and hear people WOEING
about damn thing. They have enough pain with it,
and dump it, and get back to Windoze. But distro
maker doesn't care- they already got their money. Video kills the radio star.
Users are people who use computers. They do so
to get their work done faster. If someone, to send
a fax must type $ cat letter | ispell | fax and
get it out in 10 sec, that's fast. If someone, to
do the same must leave the keyboard, reach for
the rodent, dig through menus and wait for
minutes- that just sucks, no matter how `innovative'
the whole click-o-rama looks.
There are things as basic as gravity. And there's
nothing as fast and as flexible as UNIX CLI. Period. And don't tell me about your poor secretary. If she's a slow typist, fire her.
Bwahahahaha! Nice shot, bad dog! :)
Muzzdie!
1. newbie != idiot, most of newbies I know get
it from freshmeat.net/gnu.org/kernel.org
2. Hype is a keyword. Many hardware companies,
one of them mentioned in the article, are fast to
jump in, but sign off as soon as it comes to real
talk.
3. Fonts, printers, etc.... Re-compiling xfs
doesn't require to sit by your box a week long
punching cards and reading kilometer sheets,
xmkmf;make, that's all, what's the problem?
I'd say they aren't serving society in any case.
First they made these rules so that no one in
his sane mind can understand them, now they charge
you big $$$ to represent you in the court.
The Universal Declaration of Human Rights states
that everyone has a right to be a person in front
of the law, now the law must be simple and effective
so we don't need anyone between us and the law
that is intedned to protect ourselves in a fair and
clean way. We need no intermediates between us and our law in this world of ours.
I often see freeware fans being called spongers.
Well, you can't have everything for free, indeed,
but why should one avoid a chance to have something
for gratis? On the other hand, is it necessary to
make money of everything? How big is the piece of
cake one can swallow without any risk? Someone
had a nice idea, moreof, he managed to implement
it, now these parasites come and tell him this is
a gold mine. But it's obvious, because this is a good idea and it works.
Int. Pat. can never stop `infrigment' or `piracy', so keep lawyers away. This world is _ours_.
Well, whatever happened before, I haven't feel
more asahamed than now. Shortlisting one of the
greatest scientists just because he already has
enough awards, is unfair. I'm not telling that
Gnome is good or bad. My point is that NO ONE
compares to such prominent figures as Dr. Knuth,
V. Cerf, E. F. Codd, N. Wirth and other outstanding minds.
For ignorant script-kiddies that think Dr. Knuth is just an author of TeX,
I would recommend visiting his website and having a look at the list of his work.
Miguel de Icaza is excellent at programming. People like Dr. Knuth are programming itself.
So what does it do? Another `innovation'? :/
And WTF is Internet Chapter 2? Is this that one
invetned by Bill Clinton to provide us with a
more contemporary solution than the old Internet
invented by Al Gore?
Damn, so much market-speak noise these days and
I'm increasing the amount of useless posts by
discussing useless things
Must go and DO SOMETHING!
Ouch, sorry. I was unable to get to the job
posting in instant (/.'ed?) and rushed to
address J. H. at once.
Thanks and sorry again.
I apologise for lame yelling, but I, honestly, :( So this is probably my only chance. /. or
tried to contact someone from Creative via e-mail
to no avail
My question is whether you are going to make
specs of Infra CD-ROM drives available? This
is a way cool product and I'd like to make my
Linux box controllable with IR as well as my 3.11
is.
Please, feel free to either respond through
email in private. TIA
It really matters what's behind the name. I doubt
Microsoft paid enormous $$$ for their company name.
Ditto, mentioned Yahoo, and not mentioned UNIX,
Linux and a large number of names that have a success
story to tell. Everyone knows Yahoo. I heared about
Naviant, Whatever-gent, -ment or even -bent from
this article. Swap v and i in Naviant and you'll get Naivant.... Someone, I bet, had already made that typo....
Also, everyone is talking globalisation but name makers
don't seem to consider not-native speakers at all.
If I have to pick my Bloomsbury each time I hear the company name.... Or transcribed in my native tongue it sounds like sh*t.... Oh, well....
Well, I must second John Murdoch's post. :) makes `horizontal' barrier.
Normally, when a collar is employed, he enters a
clan and everything is the matter of honour. I
can barely imagine someone at IT dept. who had
approved NT over UNIX 10 years ago now is taking
his word back and adopting Linux, even if it comes
from Whatever-Gaijin Japan. Loosing his face.... Impossiburu....
This makes a `vertical' barrier. Also, clans are allied with some clans and
fighting with others. Allies' ablilty to adopt the said innovation
Of course, it can be impressive from the tech's point of view, but I suspect that Oracle is just getting its press.... Let's see if Big Boys jump in the game....
But who, for Heaven, told you that Windoze UI is :)
good? Pick any ergonomic research out there and
you'll find M$ stuff among examples of how things
shouldn't look and feel.
On the other hand, KDE is an excellent effort to
attract current Windoze users to Linux. J. Luser
just needs time to grow and mature, to feel the Freedom,
and, trust me, if KDE is designed as good as they say,
current KDE users will transform it dramatically.
So, T.C. is right- there's nothing for UNIXoids in KDE. I'm happy with OpenLook. But that's just me
I'll second this request. Probably, the title could be
smth like `Mathematics and Algorithms'.
As to me, this is really wanted. I don't care
too much about crypto and such, but news on
computation theory, algs, data processing would be
very usefull.
Or called it `Applied Math'
TIA