Maybe you should check out wine. No one said they should have to pander to small groups of people, especially when those groups actively attack and promise never to buy MS software.
Economics isn't really entering into anything, because the Mexicans that come here and work illegally are also getting paid wages below the legal limit. In other words, they're undermining what society has decided is minium fair wage, and hurting actual citizens in the process.
Not even Jefferson supported completely unrestricted immigration (don't confuse movement with immigration). Jefferson realized that an uncontroled influx of people, especially if they did not ADAPT would undermine and harm the country.
What right to Mexicans have to cross into our territory and undermine our values and freedoms, which is what they do when they do not adapt and conform. See my other post for a link on some of Jefferson's thoughts on immigration.
Integration is important; you can do things with integrated systems you just can't with disparet ones. I'm making my living right now writing very tightly integrated applications.
Which is a misleading statement. Most FOSS actually IS of lower quality. I can name on two hands the number of FOSS projects which are of good quality.
Of course it has, just like I do, just as everyone does. No more no less. Of course that removes any "right" to tax.
If you believe you have the right to compel others to do what you tell them to, you're way off base, and perhaps this country isn't for you.
I'll trust the Webster. Besides even Wikipedia says "often". This is - often - the case because the governments will generally prevent you from staying if you don't become a citizen.
Yes, often. Meaning its fairly common practice. Even Jefferson seems to think that we need some rules about immigration. He also acknowledges that those that do immigrate adapt to our way of life and government.
Though shit... Why is it when I discuss the morality of the state, people always fall back to : it's reality live with it. Sure it is, but how does that invalidate my normative point? Besides, murder and rape may be legitimate to many people, that doesn't make them so.
Because no reasonable person would say that people should be allowed to travel without any oversight whatsoever to other countries and decide to stay.
I don't have a problem with that, you're the one claiming that an OS shouldn't include anything but any OS. So any installation media which allows you to install the OS shouldn't include anything else. Or are you retracting your previous post?
I don't see how any government has any right or business telling who can cross and not cross an imaginary line.
It doesn't sound like you believe a government has any right to to tell anyone what they can or can't do.
According to the Webster, an immigrant is a person who comes to a country to take up permanent residence. I don't why that would imply citizenship.
Fortunately Wikipedia explains how the word is actually used: "While human migration has existed throughout human history, immigration implies long-term, legal and permanent residence (and often eventual citizenship) by the immigrants."
I am arguing that people should go and come as they please as long as they do not trespass on people's property. I am also arguing that the "the US" is by no mean the legitimate property of the US government.
Well, tough shit. Whether you like it or not, the current boundries of the US are legitimate to everyone else.
I didn't receive anything RH, Ubuntu, Debian, etc. all still exist. Remember, if you sell and OS, you CAN'T provide anything else. No more one stop shops, so to speak.
I don't really see that I'm making your point. Laws also don't always reflect morality or right and wrong. Every country has proceedures for immigration and there's not wrong with having them. People that come into the country for visits are refered to as expatriats, not immigrants. Good god..
So you're going to argue that people should come and go to the US as they please? Sorry, I am for minimal government, and not even I would go that far.
Ugh, enough. I'm not a huge fan of Ron Paul myself, but "oppose immigration with force" is misleading, at best. It's illegal immigration he's against, and quite frankly, I agree with him. There's nothing wrong with having a process to get into this country and become a citizen.
Well, I was ok with your post until you quoted the definition of OS. If you're going to play that game, than Linux shouldn't come with any applications either.
Well, that and the fact that everyone else uses "identity theft" in a way that matches the description. Sorry that you don't like that the individual words don't mean exactly what the term does, but I guess you'll have to pull the stick out of your ass at some point in your life.. might as well be today.
Sorry, there's nothing wrong with buying bottled water, cosmetics (especially if you're alergic to all the cheap ones), spa treatments. I'm not sure what you mean by celeberty diets, Neutrasystem perhaps?
Sometimes you're right, cheaper stuff is just as good. In many cases, you get what you pay for too. The cheap ass lawn mower you buy at walmart likely won't last a year. Their meat is already about to expire, and their clothing is proven to be of lesser quality (as evidenced from the shirt that fell apart the first time my wife washed it). Also, it seems that a large number of pets are alergic to Walmarts crap flea medication, as a relative found out when his two cats died from an alergic reaction.
Sorry, there are things for which I'll not lower my standards.
If you admit that a flesh wound is a possiblity, then you must also necessarly accept death as an outcome as well. When being shot with a gun, only a few inches easily makes the difference between a "mere flesh wound" and fatality.
Well, its kind of hard to compute payment dates if your date representation ends at 2038, and you have something longer than a 30 year mortgage.
Huh? You can still buy Office 2003.
However, if the document I had been handed wasn't written by my opensource alternative I chose, I'm kind of screwed.
Then its up to you to request the document in a format that you can use.
Maybe you should check out wine. No one said they should have to pander to small groups of people, especially when those groups actively attack and promise never to buy MS software.
There are free readers already available. Word Viewer, Excel Viewer, etc.
So you're saying that no one else was actually spying in the US? I bet there are others that were never caught.
Economics isn't really entering into anything, because the Mexicans that come here and work illegally are also getting paid wages below the legal limit. In other words, they're undermining what society has decided is minium fair wage, and hurting actual citizens in the process.
Not even Jefferson supported completely unrestricted immigration (don't confuse movement with immigration). Jefferson realized that an uncontroled influx of people, especially if they did not ADAPT would undermine and harm the country.
What right to Mexicans have to cross into our territory and undermine our values and freedoms, which is what they do when they do not adapt and conform. See my other post for a link on some of Jefferson's thoughts on immigration.
Integration is important; you can do things with integrated systems you just can't with disparet ones. I'm making my living right now writing very tightly integrated applications.
Which is a misleading statement. Most FOSS actually IS of lower quality. I can name on two hands the number of FOSS projects which are of good quality.
Of course it has, just like I do, just as everyone does. No more no less. Of course that removes any "right" to tax.
If you believe you have the right to compel others to do what you tell them to, you're way off base, and perhaps this country isn't for you.
I'll trust the Webster. Besides even Wikipedia says "often". This is - often - the case because the governments will generally prevent you from staying if you don't become a citizen.
Yes, often. Meaning its fairly common practice. Even Jefferson seems to think that we need some rules about immigration. He also acknowledges that those that do immigrate adapt to our way of life and government.
Though shit... Why is it when I discuss the morality of the state, people always fall back to : it's reality live with it. Sure it is, but how does that invalidate my normative point? Besides, murder and rape may be legitimate to many people, that doesn't make them so.
Because no reasonable person would say that people should be allowed to travel without any oversight whatsoever to other countries and decide to stay.
You give them too much credit. At the end of the day, they are people, and tend not to think outside the box at all.
I don't have a problem with that, you're the one claiming that an OS shouldn't include anything but any OS. So any installation media which allows you to install the OS shouldn't include anything else. Or are you retracting your previous post?
I don't see how any government has any right or business telling who can cross and not cross an imaginary line.
It doesn't sound like you believe a government has any right to to tell anyone what they can or can't do.
According to the Webster, an immigrant is a person who comes to a country to take up permanent residence. I don't why that would imply citizenship.
Fortunately Wikipedia explains how the word is actually used: "While human migration has existed throughout human history, immigration implies long-term, legal and permanent residence (and often eventual citizenship) by the immigrants."
I am arguing that people should go and come as they please as long as they do not trespass on people's property. I am also arguing that the "the US" is by no mean the legitimate property of the US government.
Well, tough shit. Whether you like it or not, the current boundries of the US are legitimate to everyone else.
I didn't receive anything RH, Ubuntu, Debian, etc. all still exist. Remember, if you sell and OS, you CAN'T provide anything else. No more one stop shops, so to speak.
I don't really see that I'm making your point. Laws also don't always reflect morality or right and wrong. Every country has proceedures for immigration and there's not wrong with having them. People that come into the country for visits are refered to as expatriats, not immigrants. Good god..
So you're going to argue that people should come and go to the US as they please? Sorry, I am for minimal government, and not even I would go that far.
I even said I didn't care for Ron Paul!
Ugh, enough. I'm not a huge fan of Ron Paul myself, but "oppose immigration with force" is misleading, at best. It's illegal immigration he's against, and quite frankly, I agree with him. There's nothing wrong with having a process to get into this country and become a citizen.
Well, I was ok with your post until you quoted the definition of OS. If you're going to play that game, than Linux shouldn't come with any applications either.
Ford Fusion? You mean a model that's been on the street about two years now? Give me a break. Post again in a few years.
No, I think Ford is going into extinction by making shitty cars.
You can only win a Darwin award if you cause yourself to become extinct.
My consumer level router supports RADIUS authentication.. I'd say things should be pretty secure.
Well, that and the fact that everyone else uses "identity theft" in a way that matches the description. Sorry that you don't like that the individual words don't mean exactly what the term does, but I guess you'll have to pull the stick out of your ass at some point in your life.. might as well be today.
Sorry, there's nothing wrong with buying bottled water, cosmetics (especially if you're alergic to all the cheap ones), spa treatments. I'm not sure what you mean by celeberty diets, Neutrasystem perhaps?
Sometimes you're right, cheaper stuff is just as good. In many cases, you get what you pay for too. The cheap ass lawn mower you buy at walmart likely won't last a year. Their meat is already about to expire, and their clothing is proven to be of lesser quality (as evidenced from the shirt that fell apart the first time my wife washed it). Also, it seems that a large number of pets are alergic to Walmarts crap flea medication, as a relative found out when his two cats died from an alergic reaction.
Sorry, there are things for which I'll not lower my standards.
Ya, that's why nobody buys music or movies anymore either.
If you admit that a flesh wound is a possiblity, then you must also necessarly accept death as an outcome as well. When being shot with a gun, only a few inches easily makes the difference between a "mere flesh wound" and fatality.