Nero is compatable. It is perfectly reasonable that an older program may not run on a newer OS, especially if said older program wasn't coded to MS guidelines.
That's actually why a chunk of programs don't work. The coders didn't follow guidelines. That said, I haven't come across anything I own that doesn't work, including Doom 3 and Red Alert 2, to give you an idea that older programs CAN work if done properly.
At some point though you do leave the older stuff behind. That's the nature of computing. Or do you think we should still have 5.25" floppies?
No I mean ~700$. Microsoft shamelessly gouges central european customers and I found not a lot of cheapie offers for Vista Ultimate in retail here.
No equivolent of pricegrabber in your country?
The only point I buy are games. I never had a hardware issue with Ubuntu; sorry. Even my brand spanking new laptop worked, including WLan and hybernation.
You're lucky then. Printers are notorious for not working on Linux; wlan is hit or miss.
If you read my original post you would have noticed that I said exactly that.
Then there's no need to mention them, as they aren't a positive.
That doesn't discount the fact that there are dozens of high quality, professional, industry grade apps available, which would cost 1000s of $ in addition to the OS. It doesn't discount the fact that I get a very high quality software build environment out of the box, too.
Again I have to disagree. Gimp doesn't replace PS, OOo doesn't replace Office, etc. If by "high quality software build environment" you mean a command line compiler and vi, then yes. Does it come with anything else though? Netbeans? Eclipse? Last time i used linux, the answer was no, and I can get those some tools on windows as well.
I totally agree, but it's exactly that what infuriates me more and more with Microsoft products. They are trying to turn my computer into a consumer appliance (granted, Apple is not very different) and that's not acceptable to me. But yeah, too each his own.
I tend to think being able to do something in 10 minutes that before took me three hours is a good thing. I don't know why you think consumer appliance is where they'd like to go, because the only advantage of a computer over other devices is that its general purpose, which doesn't mesh well with consumer appliciance.
But my major point is that I'm not willing to shell out money to a company which treats me (the customer, the dude ultimately signing their checks) like a thieving pirate.
How do they treat you like a pirate? I have several copies of Vista running at home or work, and have never been identified as a pirate. They activated, and off they went. Unfortunately software is easy to copy, and I can understand them wanting to protect the money they spent making their products. Then again, I'm a software guy too.
Ubuntu Gutsy Gibbon : Free as in speech, free as in beer comes with about 20000 apps (the number's pulled out of thin air, but there are a lot of apps available), of which most are probably quite simple or outright crap, but there's true quality stuff among them and the pre-selection by the installer is quite good in my book. Oh and I'm part of the Ubuntu community, too.
And I can't really buy games off the shelf, nor printers, or a lot of other hardware, and have it work. Oh, and Linux does have its own problems, weird things breaking, spending hours figuring out what exactly is wrong, and then diving into a text file to change some obsure setting. Most of those 20,000 apps are shit. Sorry.
OS/X : Hereround 155$. Probably nicest user interface, at least at Panther level very stable, rock solid foundation (BSD) a real shell and real scripting. Oh and it gives me fanboy privileges.
People knock Linux / Windows UIs; I find Macs to be infurating. Why exactly would you want to be a fanboy? Fanboy is just another word for zealot.
Vista Ultimate: ~700$. Nothing really to offer, exept maybe this floating waterfall background, which must eat a ton of resources. Requires activation, abuses 30% of my resources for Hollywoods satisfaction. Oh: And by default I'm a criminal software thieve pirate.
Surely you mean only ~$260? Not very computer savy if you can't find Vista at a good price.
I'd wager that if i really chose option three I must be a blistering idiot, too.
The other option is that you're a smart professional that just wants to get things done. Since I ditched my Linux desktop and server, I spent more time doing the things I want on the computer, instead of trying to figure out what text file I got wrong and then being told to RTM (which doesn't exist).
You still need to protect the insides; a tank that is disabled because the motors were damaged, or destroyed outright because the shells inside explode wouldn't be very useful.
You broadened the scope from game to internet, I'm not sure why. The fact that the OP say "player killing" clearly indicates his comments were about gaming. No one said that ANYTHING you do online has no effect; they said it doesn't matter if you act "badly" in a game.
Your example just proves my point; its annoying, but nothing more. Did you lose money over it? Your job? Your PC / data? No? Annoying, nothing more.
You rant how No is not the correct answer, then you fail to substantiate that with evidence? If the OP was incorrect, please enlighten us (and the/.er that posted the question).
I'm almost 30 myself. RE: UC is out I believe. If you can, pick up a game cube controller and the GC versions of RE. I did this myself (after I played RE: 4 on the Wii first) since I never played any of the other RE games. I found them quite enjoyable (although RE2 has some pretty sad looking graphics / sound).
Huh? Not because its online, because its a game. Your examples are causing real damage to real people / systems. Killing someone in a game is annoying, at best. Get a clue.
If your goal is to reach as wide an audience as possible, then using one of those other sites defeats your purpose. Would you ONLY want to be indexed at Altavista, if you want to be seen? I didn't think so.
Um, wouldn't that mean they are geared more to adults? M is 17+. In other words, people are only "teens" for two years. Where-as the T rating is 13+. So why would a large number of M games indicate a teenage audience and not an adult one?
Sorry, no. Censorship because of money is wrong. Google isn't entitled to anything, its a company, not a person. If it were as easy as you say to setup my own hosting site, I would. But its not, so we need to rely on whats out there. Choosing to make money instead over getting the truth about human rights violations out there is an immoral choice.
I said most. When was the last time you had a neighborhood shot up over a rum runner though? You're right though, we need to let the mob have SOMETHING to do.
Sorry, but I believe you're wrong. See, illegal drugs are so expensive soley because they are illegal. Heroin and cocain cost pennies to make; the markup is around 1000%. If they were legalized, the price would necessarly drop; people wouldn't need crime to pay for it. If their habit overtakes everything, well, how is that any different than today? Do you REALLY think anyone can't easily get any drug they want? If you do, you're very naive.
Or, maybe you think that entitlements (that other big drug) should take care of their food, rent, transporation, etc? How do you see that working, exactly?
Nice strawman; no one suggested we help anyone pay for their choices.
Does that person also get health care, including the use of million-dollar diagnostic equipment, when they present with conditions that are far harder to figure out once you know they're full of nice, legal, hard drugs all the time?
Sure, but they'd have to pay higher premiums than none drug users. At any rate, this is another straw man; do you have any evidence that it's harder to diagnos someone on drugs now?
Finally, you really need to research why drugs were made illegal; its a racial thing. No one on coke a the time ran around killing or raping people. The push to make cocain illegal though did so because "blacks high on coke will rape and murder white women." Go look it up.
Regarding ODing; I really could care less if someone poisons themself. Let evolution work. Regarding your other points, they are already happening now. So what difference does it make? Oh, the differnce is that you could have drug bars and regulations that could help keep much of that under control.
At any rate, being in a free society means that there will be some things you cannot stop. I'm sure you could cut down on crime if we let police randomly search anything they wanted to. I don't want to live in such a society though. I'll take my chances that I'll be killed by someone on PCP.
Ya, and in this case the TOS are shit, because this is more akin to journalism and should NOT be censored, for any reason. People need to know exactly what's going on.
In other words, they're hindering the progress of human rights in Egypt, and I could give a fuck about their TOS in this case.
In this case though, they should allow them because the graphic nature serves a greater purpose to humanity. In other words, if their policy is hiding a truth that people need to know, they should not apply their policy in that case.
Nero is compatable. It is perfectly reasonable that an older program may not run on a newer OS, especially if said older program wasn't coded to MS guidelines.
That's actually why a chunk of programs don't work. The coders didn't follow guidelines. That said, I haven't come across anything I own that doesn't work, including Doom 3 and Red Alert 2, to give you an idea that older programs CAN work if done properly.
At some point though you do leave the older stuff behind. That's the nature of computing. Or do you think we should still have 5.25" floppies?
No I mean ~700$. Microsoft shamelessly gouges central european customers and I found not a lot of cheapie offers for Vista Ultimate in retail here.
No equivolent of pricegrabber in your country?
The only point I buy are games. I never had a hardware issue with Ubuntu; sorry. Even my brand spanking new laptop worked, including WLan and hybernation.
You're lucky then. Printers are notorious for not working on Linux; wlan is hit or miss.
If you read my original post you would have noticed that I said exactly that.
Then there's no need to mention them, as they aren't a positive.
That doesn't discount the fact that there are dozens of high quality, professional, industry grade apps available, which would cost 1000s of $ in addition to the OS. It doesn't discount the fact that I get a very high quality software build environment out of the box, too.
Again I have to disagree. Gimp doesn't replace PS, OOo doesn't replace Office, etc. If by "high quality software build environment" you mean a command line compiler and vi, then yes. Does it come with anything else though? Netbeans? Eclipse? Last time i used linux, the answer was no, and I can get those some tools on windows as well.
I totally agree, but it's exactly that what infuriates me more and more with Microsoft products. They are trying to turn my computer into a consumer appliance (granted, Apple is not very different) and that's not acceptable to me. But yeah, too each his own.
I tend to think being able to do something in 10 minutes that before took me three hours is a good thing. I don't know why you think consumer appliance is where they'd like to go, because the only advantage of a computer over other devices is that its general purpose, which doesn't mesh well with consumer appliciance.
But my major point is that I'm not willing to shell out money to a company which treats me (the customer, the dude ultimately signing their checks) like a thieving pirate.
How do they treat you like a pirate? I have several copies of Vista running at home or work, and have never been identified as a pirate. They activated, and off they went. Unfortunately software is easy to copy, and I can understand them wanting to protect the money they spent making their products. Then again, I'm a software guy too.
Ubuntu Gutsy Gibbon : Free as in speech, free as in beer comes with about 20000 apps (the number's pulled out of thin air, but there are a lot of apps available), of which most are probably quite simple or outright crap, but there's true quality stuff among them and the pre-selection by the installer is quite good in my book. Oh and I'm part of the Ubuntu community, too.
And I can't really buy games off the shelf, nor printers, or a lot of other hardware, and have it work. Oh, and Linux does have its own problems, weird things breaking, spending hours figuring out what exactly is wrong, and then diving into a text file to change some obsure setting. Most of those 20,000 apps are shit. Sorry.
OS/X : Hereround 155$. Probably nicest user interface, at least at Panther level very stable, rock solid foundation (BSD) a real shell and real scripting. Oh and it gives me fanboy privileges.
People knock Linux / Windows UIs; I find Macs to be infurating. Why exactly would you want to be a fanboy? Fanboy is just another word for zealot.
Vista Ultimate: ~700$. Nothing really to offer, exept maybe this floating waterfall background, which must eat a ton of resources. Requires activation, abuses 30% of my resources for Hollywoods satisfaction. Oh: And by default I'm a criminal software thieve pirate.
Surely you mean only ~$260? Not very computer savy if you can't find Vista at a good price.
I'd wager that if i really chose option three I must be a blistering idiot, too.
The other option is that you're a smart professional that just wants to get things done. Since I ditched my Linux desktop and server, I spent more time doing the things I want on the computer, instead of trying to figure out what text file I got wrong and then being told to RTM (which doesn't exist).
You're right, if only there was a way to power a motor with electricity, then we could have an electric motor vehica... naw, that will never work.
If you read some of the other articles on the subject, it sounds like A and B at least where almost always of a certain size as well.
The sizes today don't just dictate form, they also tell you other characteristics such as voltages.
Funny, I do recall one that says the Bill of Rights isn't an enumerated list too. So I guess the next step is to read our Founders' philosophy.
Actually, they did make B batteries.
The Wii or the 360?
You still need to protect the insides; a tank that is disabled because the motors were damaged, or destroyed outright because the shells inside explode wouldn't be very useful.
Right, that's the problem. The UK of course has no gun crime, because guns are simply outlawed there.
You broadened the scope from game to internet, I'm not sure why. The fact that the OP say "player killing" clearly indicates his comments were about gaming. No one said that ANYTHING you do online has no effect; they said it doesn't matter if you act "badly" in a game.
Your example just proves my point; its annoying, but nothing more. Did you lose money over it? Your job? Your PC / data? No? Annoying, nothing more.
Huh? Nothing will ever force you to upgrade. The company I work for proves that; we're STILL on Office 2k.
You rant how No is not the correct answer, then you fail to substantiate that with evidence? If the OP was incorrect, please enlighten us (and the /.er that posted the question).
I'm almost 30 myself. RE: UC is out I believe. If you can, pick up a game cube controller and the GC versions of RE. I did this myself (after I played RE: 4 on the Wii first) since I never played any of the other RE games. I found them quite enjoyable (although RE2 has some pretty sad looking graphics / sound).
Huh? Not because its online, because its a game. Your examples are causing real damage to real people / systems. Killing someone in a game is annoying, at best. Get a clue.
Do you have an evidence of that? Further, do you have any evidence that the game companies honestly WANT 16 and under playing M rated games?
I find it interesting that you feel a game like Resident Evil wouldn't interest older players.
If your goal is to reach as wide an audience as possible, then using one of those other sites defeats your purpose. Would you ONLY want to be indexed at Altavista, if you want to be seen? I didn't think so.
Um, wouldn't that mean they are geared more to adults? M is 17+. In other words, people are only "teens" for two years. Where-as the T rating is 13+. So why would a large number of M games indicate a teenage audience and not an adult one?
Even then it may get broken, but that's where plausible deniability comes into it.
No, it doesn't. At that point you need to offer some evidence that someone actually did compromise your computer / network.
Sorry, no. Censorship because of money is wrong. Google isn't entitled to anything, its a company, not a person. If it were as easy as you say to setup my own hosting site, I would. But its not, so we need to rely on whats out there. Choosing to make money instead over getting the truth about human rights violations out there is an immoral choice.
I said most. When was the last time you had a neighborhood shot up over a rum runner though? You're right though, we need to let the mob have SOMETHING to do.
Sorry, but I believe you're wrong. See, illegal drugs are so expensive soley because they are illegal. Heroin and cocain cost pennies to make; the markup is around 1000%. If they were legalized, the price would necessarly drop; people wouldn't need crime to pay for it. If their habit overtakes everything, well, how is that any different than today? Do you REALLY think anyone can't easily get any drug they want? If you do, you're very naive.
Or, maybe you think that entitlements (that other big drug) should take care of their food, rent, transporation, etc? How do you see that working, exactly?
Nice strawman; no one suggested we help anyone pay for their choices.
Does that person also get health care, including the use of million-dollar diagnostic equipment, when they present with conditions that are far harder to figure out once you know they're full of nice, legal, hard drugs all the time?
Sure, but they'd have to pay higher premiums than none drug users. At any rate, this is another straw man; do you have any evidence that it's harder to diagnos someone on drugs now?
Finally, you really need to research why drugs were made illegal; its a racial thing. No one on coke a the time ran around killing or raping people. The push to make cocain illegal though did so because "blacks high on coke will rape and murder white women." Go look it up.
Regarding ODing; I really could care less if someone poisons themself. Let evolution work. Regarding your other points, they are already happening now. So what difference does it make? Oh, the differnce is that you could have drug bars and regulations that could help keep much of that under control.
At any rate, being in a free society means that there will be some things you cannot stop. I'm sure you could cut down on crime if we let police randomly search anything they wanted to. I don't want to live in such a society though. I'll take my chances that I'll be killed by someone on PCP.
Ya, and in this case the TOS are shit, because this is more akin to journalism and should NOT be censored, for any reason. People need to know exactly what's going on.
In other words, they're hindering the progress of human rights in Egypt, and I could give a fuck about their TOS in this case.
In this case though, they should allow them because the graphic nature serves a greater purpose to humanity. In other words, if their policy is hiding a truth that people need to know, they should not apply their policy in that case.