the case i'm refering to is from the early 60s, so the notion of hopping on a horse don't apply. It applies specifically to automobiles (government provided buses don't allow for freedom of travel). But here's a link of other similar rulings (ignore the first, its about Canada):
Omega 3 and 6 are also "good" fats. So I'm not sure what you're refering to then. And of course your point is taken about exceeding certain necessary amounts... but while nobody labels vitimans as "bad" if you get too many, they do the same for fat.
As a British person living in the USA I notice that the majority of my sockets outside kitchen and bathroom are not GFI protected (either at the socket or the fuse panel) and that most appliances do not use an Earth Pin.
Because a GFI will cause the entire rest of the circuit to fail, so they're only needed in a few locations. Not sure how grounding a toaster helps, but maybe there's a reason to..
I also am in awe that socket adapters are legally sold that convert non earthed sockets into earthed sockets and light bulb sockets into earthed sockets, the safety implications are huge. I think it is a fair assessment to use 110V non earth sockets as many home have them.
Well, our cities don't seem to be burning constantly due to electrical fires, so perhaps your fears are overblown.
I also notice that no appliance I own in the USA uses insulation on the live pins of the plug to prevent accidental shocks when the plug is slightly out of the socket
You should be sure the plug is fully inserted, and the plug should provide a "grip" that keeps it in place. If the plug falls out of the socket, its time to replace the socket. Oh, and don't stick your fingers into a live socket.
none of the sockets contain safety shutters
You can buy plastic plugs for that, if its a concern. But as a rule, we teach people not to stick things into them. Call it "common sense," if you will.
110V cords to high wattage appliances such as vacuum cleaners get warm
So? Your laptop gets warm using it too..
the lights change brightness when I switch such appliances on and off
Bad wiring plan. Applicances that can do that should be on their very own circuit, not part of other circuits.
IMO the British home electrical system is much better than the USA system and I have tried to view it impartially over the years.
Good effort, maybe some of the points I raise will give you a clearer picture of the other side.
As I said, its an administrative session, not court, so no lawyers are allowed. You can appeal to a real court if you lose, but you have to pay the fine up front to do so, and lawyers are expensive.
Don't get mad at me because a store offers UNLIMITED refills and then I try to take advantage of that. What the hell is the store doing offering that anyway?
I don't expect a store to enumerate everything I should do, but don't fucking bitch when someone buys unlimited refills and then uses up 20 servings of coffee.
If you think you'd be arrested for that, you're assinine.
Local businesses don't tend to have the clout and resources that national chains do so they generally have to be more receptive to their customer.
Bull. They just band together to act, such as a chamber of commerce.
McD's doesn't care if something pisses of a handful of customers that usually visited a particular store.
Huh? McDs are almost all franchised, so yes they would care. And historically, its the larger companies that are MORE scared about pissing people off, because they're more likely to be sued, get national bad press, etc.
Cheaper isn't always better and if a (local) business isn't giving you service commensurate with what you pay them don't do business with them. Most places probably wouldn't want you as a customer anyways.
Nobody said cheaper was always better. I'm talking about getting the most value out of your dollar. Any business that wouldn't want me as a customer probably won't be around very long. Not because I have tons of money to throw around, but any business that don't care that they are pushing away customers won't be around due to competion.
We may have limited resources but we can choose how we use them. Just because I can't afford a Ferrari doesn't mean that I'm entitled to get a free car from Ford. I can however use my limited resources to purchase whatever car I will enjoy the most that I can afford.
Where do you/.ers come up with this fucking garbage nonsense? Who said anything about entitilment? Another stupid, pointless car analogy to prop up a strawman.
I'm talking about taking advantage of what was offered... and if some dumbass coffee shop lets me use wifi all day after buying a small coffee, there's no entitlement there, but hell if I'm not going to take FULL advantage of it.
As I said, it was THEIR choice to offer wifi in that way; if they want to do it but can't pay the rent doing so because someone sits there all day taking up a seat without buying anything else, then tough shit. They deserve to close. Or they can simply limit the wifi to an hour. Of course that may mean some people may not come back, but if enough others think that's fine, they'll be fine too. But I never said i was entitiled to anything.
How does the government ensure that you pay the right amount of income tax? They are trusting that you told the truth on your tax return. If you didn't tell the truth then it may be very difficult to prove this, but the penalties for getting caught are very high so it might not be worth the risk that they somehow manage to prove you evaded the tax.
Ya, um no. No one is trusting you to report your income to the government. Your employer reports it, and they will, because they also need to claim your income as a business expense. Most places outsource payroll anyway, and there's no way they'd be caught illegally not reporting your income.
How does the government ensure that you pay the right amount of duty and VAT on imports? Much or the time they are trusting you to declare what you are importing.
The fact that they can search you entering the country pretty much means they aren't trusting you..
How does the TVLA ensure you pay for your TV licence if you own a TV? They send threatening letters to law abiding citizens and other nasty things like that but at the end of the day they can only trust that you declare that you have a TV and pay for a licence.
We don't have a TV license here. But in Britain, I know that there are ways to drive around and determine from outside a home if there's a TV in there or not. They then check the license, and guess what happens if you're not on the list?
See - lots of taxes already exist where proving evasion is hard, this isn't really any different.
Yes, that's my point. Where there is no enforcement, you probably can get away with not reporting.
Your premise is that it operations on trust, but I think you can see from your own examples that's not how it works. Which was my question... how do they know how much beer you've made, since there seems to be no method of enforcement?
If automakers wanted you to drive slower and safer, they would set the speedometer to read high- ie, it reports 60 when you're really doing 55. The upside is that your mpg may improve as well.
Slower != safer, as evidenced by the fact that the majority of accidents are on LOCAL roads. The "safe" limits are the ones people would mostly pick for themselves anyway. Civil engineering uses that to set the standard at the 85th percentile, which due to policics, is not used. Instead lower limits are forced, resulting in more accidents.
One car company (I don't recall at the moment) was found to be messing with odometers so that they had you traveling greater distances than you actually did, so that your milage based warranty would expire sooner. That's pretty much the only reason a company would mess with something like that... not because they want you to be safe ; they want to make you think their car is safe so you'll buy it, but they don't actually care if you die in it or not. So again, greed beats out basic human compassion.
Maybe a just would, but your first "court" isn't a court at all, its an administrative hearing, and unless you've gotten a test showing your spedometer is inaccurate, you're not going to be found not guilty. Even then, they could simply say "you were still speeding, whether you knew it or not."
I think you're missing the point here. Whether or not acupuncture actually does something is irrelevent; if it makes you FEEL better, then its done something. One use is stress relief; if you come out feeling less stress, then it worked, didn't it, regardless of which needles were used or where they were placed.
We NEED saturated fats. Men use it to produce testosterone. It's also used to repair tissue. In fact, new research shows its the carbs doing the damage, as men which replaced bad carbs with "bad" fat LOWERED their bad cholesterol. Sounds like more research is needed.
Can you imagine how wonderful it would be to see chiropractors [snip] behind bars.
Ya, well, I was refered to one by my doctor for an injury. I fully expected it not to work and to be back at the doctor saying as much, and to be in surgery shortly after.
For one, they watered down UAC. Second, UAC won't do anything if the virus simply attaches itself to your user account, instead of the whole system. UAC is supposed to help keep malware gaining admin rights and infecting your system, not to stop it from running.
No, we can't have nice things because we have limited resources, and thus can't do everything that we would like.
Not every business is a soulless corporation... Though behavior like that will be sure to leave the big corps as the only ones left standing.
You act as if local businesses aren't there trying to make money as well. They are, and believe me they fight for advantages whenever they can. The sooner people wake up to that fact, the better off we'll all be.
They will not. If you serve a subpoena to my bank for the contents of my safe deposit box, the bank will refer you to me. Your bank will do exactly the same. Don't believe me? Read the contract for your safe deposit box. It details these matters.
A safe deposit box is not the same as financial records. They can't open the box without you, so your point is moot. Your transactions and accounts though, they'll be handed over within seconds.
They don't have to fight it, just refuse to provide the information pending notification of the user. It's by far the cheapest option.
Please, show me where it says anyone has the right to refuse to provide the information until the 3rd party is notified. That's what this case is about.. there is no legal requirement to notify anyone, and such a response will likely piss of the judge.
Bah. This isn't a question of opinion, it's a question of fact, and the factual experience of one attorney who's been getting stacks of signed, blank subpoenas for 20 years is absolutely convincing evidence, at least for the courts in my state (he's never practiced in other states). Of course, you may choose not to believe my secondhand report of this fact. If there's a weakness in my response it isn't the anecdotal nature nor the source of the information, it's that from your perspective it's hearsay.
Its not a matter of fact. He told you that's what happens, that doesn't make it true, even if you believe it. Add to the fact that you could be making the whole thing up, we're back at square one. How you claim things work is not relevent unless you can show some other source.
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Yes, the case said "travel on the nations highways using your own personal property"
the case i'm refering to is from the early 60s, so the notion of hopping on a horse don't apply. It applies specifically to automobiles (government provided buses don't allow for freedom of travel). But here's a link of other similar rulings (ignore the first, its about Canada):
http://www.afasic.com/wiki/The_Right_to_Travel_(Supreme_Court_Decision)
Omega 3 and 6 are also "good" fats. So I'm not sure what you're refering to then. And of course your point is taken about exceeding certain necessary amounts... but while nobody labels vitimans as "bad" if you get too many, they do the same for fat.
Hrm... well, if you're talking about 40 sockets, and GFIs are 9.99 or standard ones are $0.49.. well I'll use GFI where appropriate, but nowhere else.
As a British person living in the USA I notice that the majority of my sockets outside kitchen and bathroom are not GFI protected (either at the socket or the fuse panel) and that most appliances do not use an Earth Pin.
Because a GFI will cause the entire rest of the circuit to fail, so they're only needed in a few locations. Not sure how grounding a toaster helps, but maybe there's a reason to..
I also am in awe that socket adapters are legally sold that convert non earthed sockets into earthed sockets and light bulb sockets into earthed sockets, the safety implications are huge. I think it is a fair assessment to use 110V non earth sockets as many home have them.
Well, our cities don't seem to be burning constantly due to electrical fires, so perhaps your fears are overblown.
I also notice that no appliance I own in the USA uses insulation on the live pins of the plug to prevent accidental shocks when the plug is slightly out of the socket
You should be sure the plug is fully inserted, and the plug should provide a "grip" that keeps it in place. If the plug falls out of the socket, its time to replace the socket. Oh, and don't stick your fingers into a live socket.
none of the sockets contain safety shutters
You can buy plastic plugs for that, if its a concern. But as a rule, we teach people not to stick things into them. Call it "common sense," if you will.
110V cords to high wattage appliances such as vacuum cleaners get warm
So? Your laptop gets warm using it too..
the lights change brightness when I switch such appliances on and off
Bad wiring plan. Applicances that can do that should be on their very own circuit, not part of other circuits.
IMO the British home electrical system is much better than the USA system and I have tried to view it impartially over the years.
Good effort, maybe some of the points I raise will give you a clearer picture of the other side.
As I said, its an administrative session, not court, so no lawyers are allowed. You can appeal to a real court if you lose, but you have to pay the fine up front to do so, and lawyers are expensive.
Don't get mad at me because a store offers UNLIMITED refills and then I try to take advantage of that. What the hell is the store doing offering that anyway?
I don't expect a store to enumerate everything I should do, but don't fucking bitch when someone buys unlimited refills and then uses up 20 servings of coffee.
If you think you'd be arrested for that, you're assinine.
Local businesses don't tend to have the clout and resources that national chains do so they generally have to be more receptive to their customer.
Bull. They just band together to act, such as a chamber of commerce.
McD's doesn't care if something pisses of a handful of customers that usually visited a particular store.
Huh? McDs are almost all franchised, so yes they would care. And historically, its the larger companies that are MORE scared about pissing people off, because they're more likely to be sued, get national bad press, etc.
Cheaper isn't always better and if a (local) business isn't giving you service commensurate with what you pay them don't do business with them. Most places probably wouldn't want you as a customer anyways.
Nobody said cheaper was always better. I'm talking about getting the most value out of your dollar. Any business that wouldn't want me as a customer probably won't be around very long. Not because I have tons of money to throw around, but any business that don't care that they are pushing away customers won't be around due to competion.
We may have limited resources but we can choose how we use them. Just because I can't afford a Ferrari doesn't mean that I'm entitled to get a free car from Ford. I can however use my limited resources to purchase whatever car I will enjoy the most that I can afford.
Where do you /.ers come up with this fucking garbage nonsense? Who said anything about entitilment? Another stupid, pointless car analogy to prop up a strawman.
I'm talking about taking advantage of what was offered... and if some dumbass coffee shop lets me use wifi all day after buying a small coffee, there's no entitlement there, but hell if I'm not going to take FULL advantage of it.
As I said, it was THEIR choice to offer wifi in that way; if they want to do it but can't pay the rent doing so because someone sits there all day taking up a seat without buying anything else, then tough shit. They deserve to close. Or they can simply limit the wifi to an hour. Of course that may mean some people may not come back, but if enough others think that's fine, they'll be fine too. But I never said i was entitiled to anything.
How does the government ensure that you pay the right amount of income tax? They are trusting that you told the truth on your tax return. If you didn't tell the truth then it may be very difficult to prove this, but the penalties for getting caught are very high so it might not be worth the risk that they somehow manage to prove you evaded the tax.
Ya, um no. No one is trusting you to report your income to the government. Your employer reports it, and they will, because they also need to claim your income as a business expense. Most places outsource payroll anyway, and there's no way they'd be caught illegally not reporting your income.
How does the government ensure that you pay the right amount of duty and VAT on imports? Much or the time they are trusting you to declare what you are importing.
The fact that they can search you entering the country pretty much means they aren't trusting you..
How does the TVLA ensure you pay for your TV licence if you own a TV? They send threatening letters to law abiding citizens and other nasty things like that but at the end of the day they can only trust that you declare that you have a TV and pay for a licence.
We don't have a TV license here. But in Britain, I know that there are ways to drive around and determine from outside a home if there's a TV in there or not. They then check the license, and guess what happens if you're not on the list?
See - lots of taxes already exist where proving evasion is hard, this isn't really any different.
Yes, that's my point. Where there is no enforcement, you probably can get away with not reporting.
Your premise is that it operations on trust, but I think you can see from your own examples that's not how it works. Which was my question... how do they know how much beer you've made, since there seems to be no method of enforcement?
Well, accident rates have been dropping steadily for years, so I'd have to think "no."
Travel using the common means of the day is a right, and the supreme court has ruled as much.
Funny, because I see poor people as the ones being stupid. They're not stupid because they are poor, they are poor because they are stupid.
Oh, and get off your high horse.
You're doing something wrong then. I've used IE for quite a while now after ditching FF, and I've yet to get a virus.
If automakers wanted you to drive slower and safer, they would set the speedometer to read high- ie, it reports 60 when you're really doing 55. The upside is that your mpg may improve as well.
Slower != safer, as evidenced by the fact that the majority of accidents are on LOCAL roads. The "safe" limits are the ones people would mostly pick for themselves anyway. Civil engineering uses that to set the standard at the 85th percentile, which due to policics, is not used. Instead lower limits are forced, resulting in more accidents.
One car company (I don't recall at the moment) was found to be messing with odometers so that they had you traveling greater distances than you actually did, so that your milage based warranty would expire sooner. That's pretty much the only reason a company would mess with something like that... not because they want you to be safe ; they want to make you think their car is safe so you'll buy it, but they don't actually care if you die in it or not. So again, greed beats out basic human compassion.
Maybe a just would, but your first "court" isn't a court at all, its an administrative hearing, and unless you've gotten a test showing your spedometer is inaccurate, you're not going to be found not guilty. Even then, they could simply say "you were still speeding, whether you knew it or not."
I think you're missing the point here. Whether or not acupuncture actually does something is irrelevent; if it makes you FEEL better, then its done something. One use is stress relief; if you come out feeling less stress, then it worked, didn't it, regardless of which needles were used or where they were placed.
Whoa, careful there on the "bad" fats label.
We NEED saturated fats. Men use it to produce testosterone. It's also used to repair tissue. In fact, new research shows its the carbs doing the damage, as men which replaced bad carbs with "bad" fat LOWERED their bad cholesterol. Sounds like more research is needed.
Opps... I had more and cut it by mistake. It did work and the pain is greatly reduced.
Can you imagine how wonderful it would be to see chiropractors [snip] behind bars.
Ya, well, I was refered to one by my doctor for an injury. I fully expected it not to work and to be back at the doctor saying as much, and to be in surgery shortly after.
Well, Vista and higher also come with .Net by default, as .Net will be standard from here on out.
For one, they watered down UAC. Second, UAC won't do anything if the virus simply attaches itself to your user account, instead of the whole system. UAC is supposed to help keep malware gaining admin rights and infecting your system, not to stop it from running.
This is why we can't have nice things.
No, we can't have nice things because we have limited resources, and thus can't do everything that we would like.
Not every business is a soulless corporation... Though behavior like that will be sure to leave the big corps as the only ones left standing.
You act as if local businesses aren't there trying to make money as well. They are, and believe me they fight for advantages whenever they can. The sooner people wake up to that fact, the better off we'll all be.
Its hard to claim someone was evading taxes if they can't prove you've done something that actually is taxable.
You're basically claiming the government can claim you didn't pay your dog tax without proving that you even own a dog.
They will not. If you serve a subpoena to my bank for the contents of my safe deposit box, the bank will refer you to me. Your bank will do exactly the same. Don't believe me? Read the contract for your safe deposit box. It details these matters.
A safe deposit box is not the same as financial records. They can't open the box without you, so your point is moot. Your transactions and accounts though, they'll be handed over within seconds.
They don't have to fight it, just refuse to provide the information pending notification of the user. It's by far the cheapest option.
Please, show me where it says anyone has the right to refuse to provide the information until the 3rd party is notified. That's what this case is about.. there is no legal requirement to notify anyone, and such a response will likely piss of the judge.
Bah. This isn't a question of opinion, it's a question of fact, and the factual experience of one attorney who's been getting stacks of signed, blank subpoenas for 20 years is absolutely convincing evidence, at least for the courts in my state (he's never practiced in other states). Of course, you may choose not to believe my secondhand report of this fact. If there's a weakness in my response it isn't the anecdotal nature nor the source of the information, it's that from your perspective it's hearsay.
Its not a matter of fact. He told you that's what happens, that doesn't make it true, even if you believe it. Add to the fact that you could be making the whole thing up, we're back at square one. How you claim things work is not relevent unless you can show some other source.
So... how exactly do they know how muhc you've produced? Do botched batches that end up down the drain count?