Oh man, you're living in a dream world. Granted the auto industry could probably burn through 30 billion in a few months but Microsoft seems to know what they are doing.
Wow, this sounds suspiciously like the post above from dalesc. And wow, you're user id # are only four apart. And wow the posts are only a minute apart.
I thought it was your Dad that had 400 instances of viruses, now its your brother!?!? I'm so confused.
Here's the thing that I still can't believe a lot of you don't understand.
Microsoft does NOT make money off of Windows.
One more time...
Microsoft does NOT make money off of Windows.
They used to but their real money comes from Exchange, AD, their management console stuff and most importantly:
Microsoft Office
That is the cash cow. Windows is just a tool to push Office. Don't even try to convince me that OO is anywhere near MS Office. There is no comparison.
"But its free!"
Yeah, but training my employees, lost work hours due to confusion, lost time due to file formats, lost time to "How do I do this"... That's where the real cost is.
And believe me, I'm not a troll. I have a total of 4 terabytes spread over three Slackware servers sitting in my basement. One primary and one slave MythTV backend and one running the SAN. I have a KnoppMyth frontend in my garage for music when I'm working out there and two other Slackware frontends on my televisions.
Personally, I don't care if Linux ever rules the Desktop because I know when I need a rock solid backend for everything I do Linux is what I'll choose.
Not to far down was Microsoft Money 2004 plus a whole bunch of (Installer Only) entries.
Think of the leaps forward Linux would be if the developers of Wine realized how pointless Wine is (should have figured it out about 8 years ago when VMware came out) and spent their skill developing programs that could compete with mainstream applications.
Either you've never worked in an office or if you are working in one then your network and security guys need to be fired.
This IBM thing is good for a small company (under 15 people) but as the Parent poster described most medium to large companies have third-party or internally written software that isn't going to run on The Linux. And binaries aren't always possible because they person who wrote it doesn't work there, died, retired or the third-party company isn't around anymore.
I love OSS but I really wish some of you would figure out that it is NOT going to work for everyone.
Build me a OSS insurance agency management system that is easy to use, works without problems, interfaces into an OSS email client that resembles Outlook, integrates with an office suite that resembles Office, has to import the existing 100,000+ tables I currently have plus our 120gb database.
Oh yeah, it has to interface with 25+ national and international insurance company's download and underwriting systems (Insurity being a big one)for rating and policy updates even though most of them don't use the ALG3 standard.
Also, it has to be licensed with ISO so that it has the most updated Acord forms which I need to be able to download as their released because if I can't then my agency is liable under E&O. That Errors and Omissions, which I could be sued over if my stuff isn't up to date.
Your auto insurance policy? The form the insurance company used had to be approved by ISO. Just to use their reference library to download the most up to date forms costs $2800.
You make that and give it to me free and I'll switch the entire company over to it.
Hey, that game was awesome. The second one pretty much sucked (like the movie) but the first one was groundbreaking. The budget system in it was a huge pain.
I agree. Why not make up a proposal for one Xbox and a moderate sized TV? Tell your people they can only use it on breaks or during their lunch. Giving each person an Xbox is expensive and my boss would laugh me out of his office if he didn't fire me first.
The sad thing is that I actually have all of those plus a few others.
MFM Controller - Check RLL - Check Actually working parallel and usb Zip drives - Check * 23 Parallel Iomega Taravan drive - Check * 8 tapes of late 80's early 90's porn All ISA motherboard - Check, Check & Check
Monster giant mammoth case that has 7 5.25" drive bays - Check
I think I failed my New Year's Resolution from 1997 to stop being a pack rat.
I asked everybody in my office that has and iPod if they'd heard of Flac or Ogg music formats.
None of them had any clue what they were.
The 99.9% of music listeners that aren't Slashdot members don't give a shit about free audio formats or libOggVorbis or libFlac or any of that. They just want to listen to their music.
We had an O2 or "Blue Toaster" as we called it and it was the shit. The day I installed it the women in my office would come by and say, "Its so cute" "Why doesn't my computer look like that"? Hint..Hint..Apple..Ripping off ideas..iMac.
All it did was rip print jobs for our Canon CLC500/550/900. You could shove 500mb+ print jobs at it and it would just chug along. I never once in six years had to reboot it, work on it, or curse at it. I wish we had bought it instead of leasing it along with the printer.
My first experience with Linux was Slackware 0.94 in I believe 1994ish. I cried, I swore, I punched and kicked things, I'd look at the stack of floppies required to install it and cry some more.
But I learned a boatload. I learned init scripts, what everything in/etc does, BASH programming, building source code...having said source code fail...investigation why...fixing it so it worked.
Slackware is, in my opinion, the best learning tool that Linux has. Better than books and better than forums.
Patrick Volkerding is a genius and I hope someday he's recognized for it.
I don't buy this one bit. Are you a programmer on the side and have a job during the day.
We run background checks on EVERY potential employee. Do you really want someone who has been bankrupt or convicted of a financial crime having access to your funds? Why do you think people make such a big deal out a politicians actions when they were 20 years younger. If its out there and available it WILL make difference in who hires you.
Personally, I would never let a stoner work in a mission critical position.
But then again, I'm a child of the 70's and all I picture is Jeff Spicoli sitting in the NOC with his slip on Van's resting on the desk watching "When surfing goes bad" and eating pizza while major alarms are going off.
Fiendishly clever does not come close to describing this. I just played it for the first time and it was a blast. The "Sometimes you just have to shift" would make a great line for a movie poster.
Um do you have any proof other than your "worked for" job. Did you check and see if the President/CEO/Owner was just cheap and didn't buy faster service? I've been doing this for 17 years now and have used just about everything except the OC family of lines and have never had a problem.
I take that back, Dell's website is slow. Its slow on both my work networks, seperate two T1's and one 6mb DSL, my home cable connection, 10mb cable that consistantly runs at 1000+kb, and just about every other connection I've been on. Same with with company website we use also.
There is a shitload of fiber all over this country. You must be a young'n, don't you remember all the money spent in the 90's on fiber? The infrastructure is there, its just not being utilized because so many telecom companies got burned after the bubble burst in the late 90's.
Also, Japan would fit in my basement. Easy to network it.
And it seems that you've worked in the industry. Why don't you ask some of the people you've worked with, it seems like they'd have better answers for you.
You must not be very good at your job. GHOST is your friend. One image takes about 15-30 minutes depending on the capabilities of the target machine.
Hell, why don't you have the service packs already stored somewhere so you can easily apply them. I don't buy your download on another machine line. I put a Netgear PCMCIA (from 2001) card in a Compaq laptop that only had SP1 of XP and it found it installed it and was ready to go.
Did you ever even see Buck Rogers? What does that have to do with NASA? Hell, the TV networks quit showing coverage of Apollo launches in '69. Going into space has been common for most Americans. Its just something that happens, astronauts go to space.
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Oh man, you're living in a dream world. Granted the auto industry could probably burn through 30 billion in a few months but Microsoft seems to know what they are doing.
http://www.microsoft.com/msft/reports/ar08/10k_fh_fin.html
Can't I be Miss Murder She Wrote?
Wow, this sounds suspiciously like the post above from dalesc. And wow, you're user id # are only four apart. And wow the posts are only a minute apart.
I thought it was your Dad that had 400 instances of viruses, now its your brother!?!? I'm so confused.
Rock on Linux Fanboy.
I'm calling bullshit on 400 suspect infections. The thing wouldn't work at all.
Maybe you should tell your dad to quit looking at porn websites. That's 99% of the problem.
Here's the thing that I still can't believe a lot of you don't understand.
Microsoft does NOT make money off of Windows.
One more time...
Microsoft does NOT make money off of Windows.
They used to but their real money comes from Exchange, AD, their management console stuff and most importantly:
Microsoft Office
That is the cash cow. Windows is just a tool to push Office. Don't even try to convince me that OO is anywhere near MS Office. There is no comparison.
"But its free!"
Yeah, but training my employees, lost work hours due to confusion, lost time due to file formats, lost time to "How do I do this"... That's where the real cost is.
And believe me, I'm not a troll. I have a total of 4 terabytes spread over three Slackware servers sitting in my basement. One primary and one slave MythTV backend and one running the SAN. I have a KnoppMyth frontend in my garage for music when I'm working out there and two other Slackware frontends on my televisions.
Personally, I don't care if Linux ever rules the Desktop because I know when I need a rock solid backend for everything I do Linux is what I'll choose.
The highest voted productivity app was Flash.
Not to far down was Microsoft Money 2004 plus a whole bunch of (Installer Only) entries.
Think of the leaps forward Linux would be if the developers of Wine realized how pointless Wine is (should have figured it out about 8 years ago when VMware came out) and spent their skill developing programs that could compete with mainstream applications.
The latest version of Ghost Suite does this and its a hell of lot less painful.
You mean like WSUS?
Either you've never worked in an office or if you are working in one then your network and security guys need to be fired.
This IBM thing is good for a small company (under 15 people) but as the Parent poster described most medium to large companies have third-party or internally written software that isn't going to run on The Linux. And binaries aren't always possible because they person who wrote it doesn't work there, died, retired or the third-party company isn't around anymore.
I love OSS but I really wish some of you would figure out that it is NOT going to work for everyone.
Build me a OSS insurance agency management system that is easy to use, works without problems, interfaces into an OSS email client that resembles Outlook, integrates with an office suite that resembles Office, has to import the existing 100,000+ tables I currently have plus our 120gb database.
Oh yeah, it has to interface with 25+ national and international insurance company's download and underwriting systems (Insurity being a big one)for rating and policy updates even though most of them don't use the ALG3 standard.
Also, it has to be licensed with ISO so that it has the most updated Acord forms which I need to be able to download as their released because if I can't then my agency is liable under E&O. That Errors and Omissions, which I could be sued over if my stuff isn't up to date.
Your auto insurance policy? The form the insurance company used had to be approved by ISO. Just to use their reference library to download the most up to date forms costs $2800.
You make that and give it to me free and I'll switch the entire company over to it.
Hot air, buzz words, no substance ...
Are you talking about the article or our new President?
Hey, that game was awesome. The second one pretty much sucked (like the movie) but the first one was groundbreaking. The budget system in it was a huge pain.
Hell, I run MythTV over the Internet. By that I mean I run mythfrontend on the server via X11 to my non-Linux work computer.
Works pretty well.
I agree. Why not make up a proposal for one Xbox and a moderate sized TV? Tell your people they can only use it on breaks or during their lunch. Giving each person an Xbox is expensive and my boss would laugh me out of his office if he didn't fire me first.
Is this your first manager type job?
The sad thing is that I actually have all of those plus a few others.
MFM Controller - Check
RLL - Check
Actually working parallel and usb Zip drives - Check * 23
Parallel Iomega Taravan drive - Check * 8 tapes of late 80's early 90's porn
All ISA motherboard - Check, Check & Check
Monster giant mammoth case that has 7 5.25" drive bays - Check
I think I failed my New Year's Resolution from 1997 to stop being a pack rat.
I asked everybody in my office that has and iPod if they'd heard of Flac or Ogg music formats.
None of them had any clue what they were.
The 99.9% of music listeners that aren't Slashdot members don't give a shit about free audio formats or libOggVorbis or libFlac or any of that. They just want to listen to their music.
Its ironic...
Wasn't Transmeta supposed to be the catalyst that brought forth:
THE YEAR OF LINUX!!!!!!!
We had an O2 or "Blue Toaster" as we called it and it was the shit. The day I installed it the women in my office would come by and say, "Its so cute" "Why doesn't my computer look like that"? Hint..Hint..Apple..Ripping off ideas..iMac.
All it did was rip print jobs for our Canon CLC500/550/900. You could shove 500mb+ print jobs at it and it would just chug along. I never once in six years had to reboot it, work on it, or curse at it. I wish we had bought it instead of leasing it along with the printer.
I miss my toaster.
Yes, Yes, Yes!!!
My first experience with Linux was Slackware 0.94 in I believe 1994ish. I cried, I swore, I punched and kicked things, I'd look at the stack of floppies required to install it and cry some more.
But I learned a boatload. I learned init scripts, what everything in /etc does, BASH programming, building source code...having said source code fail...investigation why...fixing it so it worked.
Slackware is, in my opinion, the best learning tool that Linux has. Better than books and better than forums.
Patrick Volkerding is a genius and I hope someday he's recognized for it.
I don't buy this one bit. Are you a programmer on the side and have a job during the day.
We run background checks on EVERY potential employee. Do you really want someone who has been bankrupt or convicted of a financial crime having access to your funds? Why do you think people make such a big deal out a politicians actions when they were 20 years younger. If its out there and available it WILL make difference in who hires you.
Personally, I would never let a stoner work in a mission critical position.
But then again, I'm a child of the 70's and all I picture is Jeff Spicoli sitting in the NOC with his slip on Van's resting on the desk watching "When surfing goes bad" and eating pizza while major alarms are going off.
Fiendishly clever does not come close to describing this. I just played it for the first time and it was a blast. The "Sometimes you just have to shift" would make a great line for a movie poster.
I got new boxes in January (Charter called me) and I've been happily moving data over the firewire cable ever since.
And to the cens0r below. I record them on the Charter DVR and then move them to the computer. HD and everything.
Um do you have any proof other than your "worked for" job. Did you check and see if the President/CEO/Owner was just cheap and didn't buy faster service? I've been doing this for 17 years now and have used just about everything except the OC family of lines and have never had a problem.
I take that back, Dell's website is slow. Its slow on both my work networks, seperate two T1's and one 6mb DSL, my home cable connection, 10mb cable that consistantly runs at 1000+kb, and just about every other connection I've been on. Same with with company website we use also.
There is a shitload of fiber all over this country. You must be a young'n, don't you remember all the money spent in the 90's on fiber? The infrastructure is there, its just not being utilized because so many telecom companies got burned after the bubble burst in the late 90's.
Also, Japan would fit in my basement. Easy to network it.
And it seems that you've worked in the industry. Why don't you ask some of the people you've worked with, it seems like they'd have better answers for you.
You must not be very good at your job. GHOST is your friend. One image takes about 15-30 minutes depending on the capabilities of the target machine.
Hell, why don't you have the service packs already stored somewhere so you can easily apply them. I don't buy your download on another machine line. I put a Netgear PCMCIA (from 2001) card in a Compaq laptop that only had SP1 of XP and it found it installed it and was ready to go.
But I for, LINUX!!!!!
Did you ever even see Buck Rogers? What does that have to do with NASA? Hell, the TV networks quit showing coverage of Apollo launches in '69. Going into space has been common for most Americans. Its just something that happens, astronauts go to space.
But on a more important note:
ERIN GREY!!!!