If those are the factors that matter, then I'm sorry but you're drooling over wrong piece of art - Qur'an nicely supercede it in all of those criteria (it's easy to become a Muslim, just one honest declaration needed, go ahead, you know you want to worship the right book...)
Yeah, like anybody would care about what encryption is used by the wireless interface, while setting up data recording at the carrier (like anybody without such legal means would care about you when practically everybody around have mobile phones). Like some bug in the place where you talk / in the phone was hard.
Birthing pod. Which, considering some traditional ways of ending the presence of humans, could bring few interesting thoughts / something about "life & full circle" on one hand, and big shift for humanity on the other (because ways of body disposal might very well be different after all, not traditional anymore)
Or it will just happen in semi-normal conditions thanks to centrifugal "gravity" (it might indeed be required for human growth; surely there were some experiments with mice? A small colony of them on one of upcoming lunar landers might be interesting, too)
No, just no; which is a most straightforward fact, easily confirmed in the most straightforward of places. Progress is not a large payload; Soyuz and Progress are, as far as the launcher is concerned, virtually the same.
Proton is, among other, for Salyut/Almaz/TKS-type payloads; an entirely different league.
You wouldn't be thinking of those tasks, wouldn't be doing them, wouldn't miss them. Generally, it would be just life as usual.
In many places people remember such times a bit more vividly. Like in ex-Soviet block, where the net access became reasonably available only during the last decade, and large portions of societies aren't plugged in almost at all; or so called developing nations in general. Even if it's there, it's often somewhat different from what we are used to - for example access via mobile phones being the rule, and so called "feature phones" at that (as long as it has gprs and j2me, it can run some IM and, most importantly, Opera Mini - check what kinds of phones are most widespread, check growth numbers)
How about having a few decades of experience with operating a manned spacecraft essentially capable of beyond-LEO operation? Soyuz was actually the first spacecraft to carry macroscopic living creatures (most notably - turtles:p ) beyond LEO (around the Moon, to be exact) and bring them back safely (via the more complex profile of skip reentry), on a Zond 5 mission.
If you have $100 million, you can get yourself a ride (those are the folks so far responsible for all private orbital flights, except the first one to Mir around 1990)
And their lander reached a flight tested & operational status...
The "space race" was some of the best work humankind has ever done, for all the worst reasons.
That's true on a much more fundamental level than you put.
In the case of Russians, for example: Which rocket put Sputnik into orbit? One from R-7 lineage. Which rocket put Yuri Gagarin into orbit? One from R-7 lineage. Which rockets put Soyuz and Progress spacecraft, and many other payloads into orbit?...yeah, from R-7 lineage.
And some people I know doubted we will see it during the whole upcoming decade. Now, I need to figure out the best layout of body function sensors and translate their readings to a 0-100 numerical values, to be displayed in the corner. Ammo value might have some practical limits...oh well, a crowbar doesn't need it.
Augmented contact lenses would be even more optimal.
Though people overdo - I've seen far too many times to count a car from my (small / impossible to get lost in) place, driving directly towards it on a ubermain route & short distance away, in the night, with GPS unit blasting at their eyes with its screen at full brightness.
And that's when it's easy to notice (despite not that many people having satnav in my part of the woods) / how many other times GPS units are used in a detrimental or outright dangerous way?
It's somewhat depressing though... (*) And actually I don't think (might be just that I simply prefer to) it happens typically quite far, if you look at the hunble group; and if generally higher rates of depression/etc. among "smarter" (to use the most broad term) are any indication.
(*)At least it shows nicely how certain societal systems promoting blisfull ignorance about fundamental stuff were and in most settings still are very much adaptive.
On sufficiently wide scale it won't really register above "background noise" of natural debris, especially if left in uniteresting spots. I'd also guess that once you can spend a lot of fuel hunting and bringing wrecks to processing facility, then few hundred kg / max few tons of raw materials aren't of much use.
A pile on the moon? Even having fuel to direct old spacecraft in its general direction would be an enormous luxury...there would be certainly nothing left for soft landing; what's good a field of craters, with all the spacecraft basically atomised?
Amounts of raw materials involved are miniscule; our spacecraft tend to LIGHT. And as for creating a dangerous debris field with high risk of collision / Kessler syndrome...
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If those are the factors that matter, then I'm sorry but you're drooling over wrong piece of art - Qur'an nicely supercede it in all of those criteria (it's easy to become a Muslim, just one honest declaration needed, go ahead, you know you want to worship the right book...)
Yeah, like anybody would care about what encryption is used by the wireless interface, while setting up data recording at the carrier (like anybody without such legal means would care about you when practically everybody around have mobile phones). Like some bug in the place where you talk / in the phone was hard.
Do you feel more paranoid already?
Birthing pod.
Which, considering some traditional ways of ending the presence of humans, could bring few interesting thoughts / something about "life & full circle" on one hand, and big shift for humanity on the other (because ways of body disposal might very well be different after all, not traditional anymore)
Or it will just happen in semi-normal conditions thanks to centrifugal "gravity" (it might indeed be required for human growth; surely there were some experiments with mice? A small colony of them on one of upcoming lunar landers might be interesting, too)
OTOH that which we do not speak about perhaps would seem more...living; less like a zombie at the least.
Yeah, those pesky Russians never really brought anything of use to the world, we would notice by now... (FYI, Soviet satellite states were often shielded / prohibited from conducting certain types of activities)
No, just no; which is a most straightforward fact, easily confirmed in the most straightforward of places. Progress is not a large payload; Soyuz and Progress are, as far as the launcher is concerned, virtually the same.
Proton is, among other, for Salyut/Almaz/TKS-type payloads; an entirely different league.
On the second thought, maybe he's onto something...
Well, we only have to wait and see if it manages to displace the VR stuff people use and love for the last 15 years.
Oh, wait...
You know, that AC almost looks like an effort to keep that post / quote visible ;)
You wouldn't be thinking of those tasks, wouldn't be doing them, wouldn't miss them. Generally, it would be just life as usual.
In many places people remember such times a bit more vividly. Like in ex-Soviet block, where the net access became reasonably available only during the last decade, and large portions of societies aren't plugged in almost at all; or so called developing nations in general.
Even if it's there, it's often somewhat different from what we are used to - for example access via mobile phones being the rule, and so called "feature phones" at that (as long as it has gprs and j2me, it can run some IM and, most importantly, Opera Mini - check what kinds of phones are most widespread, check growth numbers)
This one's nice too:
How about having a few decades of experience with operating a manned spacecraft essentially capable of beyond-LEO operation? Soyuz was actually the first spacecraft to carry macroscopic living creatures (most notably - turtles :p ) beyond LEO (around the Moon, to be exact) and bring them back safely (via the more complex profile of skip reentry), on a Zond 5 mission.
If you have $100 million, you can get yourself a ride (those are the folks so far responsible for all private orbital flights, except the first one to Mir around 1990)
And their lander reached a flight tested & operational status...
The "space race" was some of the best work humankind has ever done, for all the worst reasons.
That's true on a much more fundamental level than you put.
In the case of Russians, for example: ...yeah, from R-7 lineage.
Which rocket put Sputnik into orbit? One from R-7 lineage.
Which rocket put Yuri Gagarin into orbit? One from R-7 lineage.
Which rockets put Soyuz and Progress spacecraft, and many other payloads into orbit?
What was the first operational ICBM? R-7 Semyorka. ...not even very good as an ICBM, not very practical. But turned out to be a fabulous launcher; it is "the most reliable ... the most frequently used launch vehicle in the world" (and that's coming from, basically, its competitor)
Remind us again how that enthusiasm went after Moon landings, with lots of footage available?
Yeah, it's amazing what zombie Stalin could do to people for several years after his death.
And some people I know doubted we will see it during the whole upcoming decade. Now, I need to figure out the best layout of body function sensors and translate their readings to a 0-100 numerical values, to be displayed in the corner. Ammo value might have some practical limits...oh well, a crowbar doesn't need it.
Augmented contact lenses would be even more optimal.
Though people overdo - I've seen far too many times to count a car from my (small / impossible to get lost in) place, driving directly towards it on a ubermain route & short distance away, in the night, with GPS unit blasting at their eyes with its screen at full brightness.
And that's when it's easy to notice (despite not that many people having satnav in my part of the woods) / how many other times GPS units are used in a detrimental or outright dangerous way?
It's somewhat depressing though... (*) And actually I don't think (might be just that I simply prefer to) it happens typically quite far, if you look at the hunble group; and if generally higher rates of depression/etc. among "smarter" (to use the most broad term) are any indication.
(*)At least it shows nicely how certain societal systems promoting blisfull ignorance about fundamental stuff were and in most settings still are very much adaptive.
"Most people" (as in "above 50%") are from the city since, basically, right now. Urbanization has surpassed 50% only a year or two ago.
Doesn't help how some places how somewhat lax and/or weird standards or calling something a "city"...
Heretics!!!
On sufficiently wide scale it won't really register above "background noise" of natural debris, especially if left in uniteresting spots. I'd also guess that once you can spend a lot of fuel hunting and bringing wrecks to processing facility, then few hundred kg / max few tons of raw materials aren't of much use.
A pile on the moon? Even having fuel to direct old spacecraft in its general direction would be an enormous luxury...there would be certainly nothing left for soft landing; what's good a field of craters, with all the spacecraft basically atomised?
2. ...well, 13.6 billion years later in the baby universe.
Amounts of raw materials involved are miniscule; our spacecraft tend to LIGHT. And as for creating a dangerous debris field with high risk of collision / Kessler syndrome...
...which would make virtually no difference (and anyway, when was the last time we put anything at L3? Plus probably we won't live to see it)
Which is of course some part of the results. RELIKT-1 gets virtually no credit at all...rightly?
BTW, you do know what the last letter of that acronym stands for, right?