What are you talking about? Apple specifically shut doen recently the possibility of cross-platform dev envs (which were only starting to appear anyway; with Symbian and, most importantly, j2me excluded...)
Also, BBC itself shows iPhone some love (also iPhone, hence it's not a big deal here) so I'm not sure how they are concentrating on hating Apple. And yeah, let's just ignore all those chump changes...
Funny thing is, at least Web Runtime / WRT on Symbian devices (yup, using web-like development tech for local stuff) actually has access to large part of those...;)
...the interface specifically for that experience... integrated apps... It's also very possible that everyone is jumping the gun and that apps for android and rim are in the works...
Even if that were the case, then surely j2me app should be first in line; vast majority of phones in the UK would run this one nicely (also many "smarthpones")
Much less than 3%; sure, sales of iPhones are between 2-3% recently, but it's different when comparing actual total sold with number of other phones in use (many of them having often quite a bit longer lifetimes)
Last numbers (Mai) claim 50 million iPhones total; while there was a rush recently, some of that 50 million are no longer in use, so it's probably decently close. Now, the world has seen 3.3 billion mobile subscribers at the end of 2007, and 4.6 billion at the end of 2009 - near 5 billion now probably.
Opera Mini, used primarily on so called "feature phones", is the #1 mobile web browser by website stats (despite many of its users certainly being quite cautious about number of visited pages / data transferred)
You know, some kinds of people without much money are actually also sort of likely to get new & expensive stuff (that's a good thing for them), without real need for it (and not helping their financial status at all)
Product pages have a habit of being retroactively changed anyway...
But still, quick search brought this PR release on top - "With 8 hours of talk time, and 24 hours of audio playback, iPhone's battery life is longer than any other 'Smartphone' and even longer than most MP3 players," - such kind of construct, "...than any other...", is a strong hint regarding whether or not Apple considered iPhone to be a smartphone from day 1.
And I take it Android and WebOS, both officially called "smartphone OS" from the beginning, weren't one for a long time really? (before native execution SDK) Blackberry is very much like it, too... And some rare phones were basically built around j2me.
It's primarily a marketing term, not technical one; get over it.
The keypad-phone UI is almost wholly standardized now, with the differences between manufacturers being limited to the layout the menus, and what the cursor keys do when no menu is displayed
Oh? I guess you're used to (US? Considering you've seen locking j2me access to the net) carriers who like to put some abominations of a UI on their basic handsets?
There is certainly quite a bit differences between ways how even "feature phone" UIs are laid out. Plus it's such a large category... (something really basic vs. SE phones (they even have multitasking) vs. LG Cookie, for example)
No need for WAP nowadays BTW, not with Opera Mini.
A lot of "feature phones" come already packaged with few nice j2me apps that are for all intents and purposed treated like 1st grade, native ones. Some of those phones have full multitasking, too...
most of nokia's recent phones are on it for example
That's not correct, Symbian is only around 20% of what Nokia sells.
Also, while mentioning how its share is falling, one has to remember that those 45% (that's how it has now worldwide) is still larger than Nokia share of all mobile phones (37%), so actually quite nice. It has biggest gains by the number of units - remember it's not a zero sum game, "smartphone" market is simply rapidly expanding (also in some large and visible markets where phones were traditionally castrated, et al)
Chile? Are you kidding? That's easily much worse example than the one he has chosen with Chavez - after two decades of Pinochet what happens in Chile now can easily fall under some ripples / slight swings in either direction when the landscape still adjusts itself, it doesn't mean going into either of them.
SA has moved / is moving very much to the "left"; there was not a lot of options after being held in Pinochet-like realities.
IC, so it's not about having more precise outlook regarding current societies (about being part of given society, political level, etc.; forexample), it's following to the letter a definition made in the times long past...
Either way, even if you really like to exclude some groups of people from de facto contributing to their surroundings...well, they just do it.
That's mostly an excuse, shouting "it's their fault!" Two camps, battling.
I have a vivid local flavor of it, BTW (late EU member-state, was a place behind the Iron Curtain) - there's this myth that everything bad is the result of imposed reality, with "true %name_of_nationality" enduring due to unity, tradition and the Church; if they had their way, the place would be a shining beacon in almost every way.
Reality isn't / wasn't quite like that; apparently it's easy to ignore how basically whole regime was local, "collaborators" even among priests/etc., virtually every child of Party members baptized anyway, and reactionaries wanting to maintain status quo (when leadership preferred going towards a thaw) primarily at local level (hey, the place was one of the most feudal ones historically...) - the same level which now votes for "traditional" values... Oh, and if we are so great than why so many people after higher education end up washing dishes in the UK? And so on (those examples are just contradiction of the mentioned above myth, there's some more of course, for example on the economic basis - supposedly it's impossible here to be prosperous by hard work...; and why such distortions of perception would be unique?)
Societies end up where they want to take themselves (with solid changes for the better requiring timescales of a generation of course). From where do you think come people that form "them, corporations"? What happens with members of "us, the good people" when they have the opportunity to participate in such structures? (and ripe benefits for themselves) Could it be that...they suddenly become "them", that mostly the same old story happens again, that they do mostly the same? Well, that's (also) what given society actually values, promotes.
Of course they are part of the nation. That they might not have citizenship or that the presence of individuals might be, in principle, temporary doesn't change it; they aren't detached from the society they live in, they are an integral part of what it is.
What a funny turned upside down world. The first world nations are striving to work against the people, and the not so first world nations have this crazy idea to work for their people.
Funny indeed, if you haven't put a second thought into actually contrasting "nation" with "people"...
Who wants you to / how did you you allow yourself to forget that they are basically the same, or at the least the former is a reflection of the latter?
Even if assuming that's maybe a good indicator - well, in that case (in practice), you'd want the really shiny PC games to have even higher, ridiculously exorbitant, budgets.
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Spending should be preferably actually as useful as possible, too - in this case meaning a proper webpage. Or j2me app.
What are you talking about? Apple specifically shut doen recently the possibility of cross-platform dev envs (which were only starting to appear anyway; with Symbian and, most importantly, j2me excluded...)
Also, BBC itself shows iPhone some love (also iPhone, hence it's not a big deal here) so I'm not sure how they are concentrating on hating Apple. And yeah, let's just ignore all those chump changes...
One thing: SUV push & popularity.
Funny thing is, at least Web Runtime / WRT on Symbian devices (yup, using web-like development tech for local stuff) actually has access to large part of those... ;)
Valleys in Denmark?...
(j2me is a pretty damn strong and quite a bit older alternative BTW)
Nokia 1100 is probably even better example - seems to be the single most popular type of electronic device in history.
(though TBH both it and, especially, RAZR had several versions - different radio frequencies, for RAZR also CDMA versions and wild carrier UIs)
...the interface specifically for that experience ... integrated apps ... It's also very possible that everyone is jumping the gun and that apps for android and rim are in the works...
Even if that were the case, then surely j2me app should be first in line; vast majority of phones in the UK would run this one nicely (also many "smarthpones")
Oh, the Appstore takes care of marketing your app above all the rest? Sweet.
Much less than 3%; sure, sales of iPhones are between 2-3% recently, but it's different when comparing actual total sold with number of other phones in use (many of them having often quite a bit longer lifetimes)
Last numbers (Mai) claim 50 million iPhones total; while there was a rush recently, some of that 50 million are no longer in use, so it's probably decently close. Now, the world has seen 3.3 billion mobile subscribers at the end of 2007, and 4.6 billion at the end of 2009 - near 5 billion now probably.
Yeah, around 1%.
Opera Mini, used primarily on so called "feature phones", is the #1 mobile web browser by website stats (despite many of its users certainly being quite cautious about number of visited pages / data transferred)
You know, some kinds of people without much money are actually also sort of likely to get new & expensive stuff (that's a good thing for them), without real need for it (and not helping their financial status at all)
Product pages have a habit of being retroactively changed anyway...
But still, quick search brought this PR release on top - "With 8 hours of talk time, and 24 hours of audio playback, iPhone's battery life is longer than any other 'Smartphone' and even longer than most MP3 players," - such kind of construct, "...than any other...", is a strong hint regarding whether or not Apple considered iPhone to be a smartphone from day 1.
And I take it Android and WebOS, both officially called "smartphone OS" from the beginning, weren't one for a long time really? (before native execution SDK) Blackberry is very much like it, too...
And some rare phones were basically built around j2me.
It's primarily a marketing term, not technical one; get over it.
The keypad-phone UI is almost wholly standardized now, with the differences between manufacturers being limited to the layout the menus, and what the cursor keys do when no menu is displayed
Oh? I guess you're used to (US? Considering you've seen locking j2me access to the net) carriers who like to put some abominations of a UI on their basic handsets?
There is certainly quite a bit differences between ways how even "feature phone" UIs are laid out. Plus it's such a large category... (something really basic vs. SE phones (they even have multitasking) vs. LG Cookie, for example)
No need for WAP nowadays BTW, not with Opera Mini.
That wouldn't even be terribly new. Tends to, uhm, backfire though.
Meh, seen it before
A lot of "feature phones" come already packaged with few nice j2me apps that are for all intents and purposed treated like 1st grade, native ones. Some of those phones have full multitasking, too...
most of nokia's recent phones are on it for example
That's not correct, Symbian is only around 20% of what Nokia sells.
Also, while mentioning how its share is falling, one has to remember that those 45% (that's how it has now worldwide) is still larger than Nokia share of all mobile phones (37%), so actually quite nice. It has biggest gains by the number of units - remember it's not a zero sum game, "smartphone" market is simply rapidly expanding (also in some large and visible markets where phones were traditionally castrated, et al)
Chile? Are you kidding? That's easily much worse example than the one he has chosen with Chavez - after two decades of Pinochet what happens in Chile now can easily fall under some ripples / slight swings in either direction when the landscape still adjusts itself, it doesn't mean going into either of them.
SA has moved / is moving very much to the "left"; there was not a lot of options after being held in Pinochet-like realities.
IC, so it's not about having more precise outlook regarding current societies (about being part of given society, political level, etc.; for example), it's following to the letter a definition made in the times long past...
Either way, even if you really like to exclude some groups of people from de facto contributing to their surroundings...well, they just do it.
That's mostly an excuse, shouting "it's their fault!" Two camps, battling.
I have a vivid local flavor of it, BTW (late EU member-state, was a place behind the Iron Curtain) - there's this myth that everything bad is the result of imposed reality, with "true %name_of_nationality" enduring due to unity, tradition and the Church; if they had their way, the place would be a shining beacon in almost every way.
Reality isn't / wasn't quite like that; apparently it's easy to ignore how basically whole regime was local, "collaborators" even among priests/etc., virtually every child of Party members baptized anyway, and reactionaries wanting to maintain status quo (when leadership preferred going towards a thaw) primarily at local level (hey, the place was one of the most feudal ones historically...) - the same level which now votes for "traditional" values... Oh, and if we are so great than why so many people after higher education end up washing dishes in the UK? And so on (those examples are just contradiction of the mentioned above myth, there's some more of course, for example on the economic basis - supposedly it's impossible here to be prosperous by hard work...; and why such distortions of perception would be unique?)
Societies end up where they want to take themselves (with solid changes for the better requiring timescales of a generation of course). From where do you think come people that form "them, corporations"? What happens with members of "us, the good people" when they have the opportunity to participate in such structures? (and ripe benefits for themselves) Could it be that...they suddenly become "them", that mostly the same old story happens again, that they do mostly the same? Well, that's (also) what given society actually values, promotes.
Of course they are part of the nation. That they might not have citizenship or that the presence of individuals might be, in principle, temporary doesn't change it; they aren't detached from the society they live in, they are an integral part of what it is.
He's even mentioned at the Wiki page I linked to.
So?
What a funny turned upside down world. The first world nations are striving to work against the people, and the not so first world nations have this crazy idea to work for their people.
Funny indeed, if you haven't put a second thought into actually contrasting "nation" with "people"...
Who wants you to / how did you you allow yourself to forget that they are basically the same, or at the least the former is a reflection of the latter?
WoW? SC2? D3? Valve? No budget?...
Even if assuming that's maybe a good indicator - well, in that case (in practice), you'd want the really shiny PC games to have even higher, ridiculously exorbitant, budgets.
Isn't Yahoo pretty much in the process of outsourcing their search to MS?