Chances of infection via cats are really minuscule; we do big deal of it because when it happens at the wrong time to a wrong person (pregnant woman; think of the children!) the results catch attention.
Overall, cats most likely should be thanked by great contribution to our civilization - for a few thousand years they guard our supplies.
BTW, up to a certain point (not exceeding certain period of smoking / quiting quickly enough - basically mid-20's) the rates of illnesses associated with smoking are practically identical for non)never)-smokers and (ex)smokers.
Look, it's simple; that Jobs letter was in 2007 (with the circumstances I mentioned). Previously DRM was sugar-coted.
Apple was very actively preventing other companies / entities from licensing (etc.) their DRM, so you are the one who plays revisionist history, again and again.
More than music, less than apps...there's plenty.
And please, eAAC and eAAC+ ar two different things; if you play V2 on a device which supports only V1, it sounds worse than just feeding it V1.
Hah, you're sure meandering somewhere. We're actually talking about long-term trends for Apple, supporting eAAC+ for less than a month certainly falls under that.
Mixtapes, not DRM. What they actually do with format (sure they would take a good, ready one...why wouldn't they?).
And most generally, about weird coincidences between when Apple announces dropping DRM, starts to convince people "we always wanted it" (nothing new, really, with all "we are first" from them...) just while other types of content were becoming popular (and are still DRM'd) and when few serious investigations were getting up to speed.
Yeah, keep telling yourself that (I'm sure that's also the reason for the number of positive Apple news / announcements). Certainly it's not because perhaps some other people might have slightly clearer outlook... FYI, I do own an iPod and I'm quite happy with it - that mere fact itself isn't enough to whitewash it completely, forget about some things mentioned in the subthread just above; and generally I am a user of Apple products...perhaps not longer than many people on/. (just firmly into 90's), but certainly much longer & much more than almost anybody at my place, where Apple basically doesn't exist (the number of iPods I have ever seen in the wild can be probably counted on the fingers of one hand, in a reasonably prosperous late EU memberstate; that excludes mine of course); but so what?
You were talking about format, ergo something which doesn't have much to do with this locking / etc.
Now you try to attach to it mixtapes / "mix CDs"...ehhh.
Oh, right, they just now (gee, sorry I missed something like that) added something which others had for half a decade... (the more in the past, the more useful - sizes and bandwidths were smaller)
It's a lib... Can be packaged with application / fetched via Ovi / by Nokia smart installer if needed. And works from S60v3 FP1; very comfortably 3 years.
Why is it so hard to believe? That's why Nokia bought Trolltech.
Got it, they freed the music before they even offered it; even better now...
Why the change the subject to encoding format suddenly? Trying to put something behind? (NVM that it isn't nearly only about music; how did you dismiss that they "freed" music just when other types of content, still DRM'd, became semi-popular?) Plus, Apple isn't that great at supporting DRM; it took them a long time to support eAAC; they still can't support properly eAAC+ stream when encountering one.
Why won't people just record loop via audio out/in, with present equipment the quality also won't really go down...
Sure DRM was not optional; Apple liked that music from iTunes is locked into iPods; most importantly, they "freed" music only when other types of content started becoming popular; and which are still very much locked.
(really, don't you see a problem with following what they claim, since 2007 only, to the letter?)
"Dismissed"? What are you talking about? Of course it's Apple PR, what else would it be? (and on the other side - Nokia PR). That's why, again, "perhaps", etc.
Again, you very clearly presented the case from one side. Trying to escape from it now much?
Yes, giving you the radio technology is damn hard. Following on Braun visual design principles and polishing some codebase...not quite the same league.
You really forget GSMA association in all of this, they are the place through which all patents and fees for them would go (and BTW, they include technology relating to GSM in the portolio, not to UIs; remember that funny case when Apple used as defense some "iPod" from the 70's BTW?)
Ahh, you finally got it. Remember I was the one who used the word "perhaps even" & "we'll see how that dispute ends up"; you constructed your first response, which mentioned strictly Apple's side (hence their PR), as an outright explanation of whole situation), don't backpedal on it now...
(I'm pretty much waiting what will happen; both sides of course will say what's best for them - but consider typical scope of UI patents, or that GSMA even allows one of its members to take such action)
Right, burning to the CD (backups? Are you sure you're not remembering this incorrectly / that's no way to do them)...so why, again, they needed it at all in the initial non-transcoded files that people usually put on their (their) player?
And you really don't remember numerous cease and desist letters? Some as recently as around a year ago? (Requiem software, forcing some forums to remove posts about it and the software itself into Tor hidden server). Plus, and arms race (also recent one about Requiem) with changing the way iTunes DRM works is very much optional on the part of Apple; as is DMCA.
You are wrong. At the end of 2007 there were 3.3 billion mobile subscribers. Two years later it was 4.6 billion subscribers. Sure, many markets have above 100% penetration; but OTOH in many other places (primarily those which didn't have much of a communication means to speak of previously) people (family, for example) often share one mobile phone. It's frequent enough that lower end ones have multiple "user accounts."
It was a useful tidbit of info as a counterexample in the response. Or, what, an issue of sort of disregarding vast majority of people pushes you to...disregard what some people say as irrelevant?
And yeah, generally quite laughable; but could have (rather doesn't have of course) some merit, under certain bounds. Such proceedings would be on the level of one market, for starters; and there just happens to be a visible one where Nokia almost doesn't exist...though of course it doesn't seem like domination of Apple will be possible. But there is another case possible - one market across the Pond to the mentioned above, which tries to protect customers / has, among other, rules about bundled deals, et al. The story goes that Apple dropping iTunes DRM was also influenced by several high profile lawsuits there about abusing iTunes lock-in. Remember monopoly itself isn't illegal, only when it abuses. And abuses themselves are enough.
You know, it doesn't do you any good to just repeat verbatim what Apple claims. They want to pay the same, sure...as any other company in GSMA who did hard R&D, not some UI ideas stuff.
BTW, you missed that not only Nokia is involved... (they just have not only one of the largest contributions; also are a useful front of the case, without a possibility of loosing much due to any temporary turmoil in the US market)
Well, thin should do fine with very "dense", in a way, supporting structure of aerogel; thin helps light (and some aerogels are already much lighter than air).
But anyway, it's probably mostly impractical - the main problem with lighter-than-air vessels is that they have to be large for their mass, which in turn makes them relatively slow and, most importantly, at the mercy of winds; much less controllable. "Rigid airships" exploring other bodies in our system might be sensible - wild temperatures mean trouble for fillable skins; OTOH often large size of entry vehicle for rigid variant is probably even more problematic... Perhaps a hybrid of aircraft and airship could be at least semi-sensible; or not, and the concept is mostly unworkable.
Considering they have still the largest, by far, chunk of smartphone market; and the biggest gains in numbers - it's most likely not too late at all (unless you mean your situation; which obviously wouldn't apply / Qt is a quite recent addition)
Plan with Maemo was quite clear for a long time - refine it in successive versions, with N900 being the last step before a device meant for mostly general consumption. If anything, battery technology allows something on such "full" OS just now (considering they usually try to not forget about battery life) - how large was the 770? How long it lasted?
BTW, a year before your 770 there was something with, supposedly, a precursor to Hildon UI - 7710. And generally quite "fully modern" touchscreen phone. Symbian, though...;)
So be it, if those are developers wanting to restrict my intake of good games - generally wanting from me not to value what's simply good (only what's "new & hot"); not caring about word-of-mouth and overall satisfied customers - who may buy something at launch thanks to it - there's a very high chance of Elemental (Stardock) finding its way to me that way.
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Chances of infection via cats are really minuscule; we do big deal of it because when it happens at the wrong time to a wrong person (pregnant woman; think of the children!) the results catch attention.
Overall, cats most likely should be thanked by great contribution to our civilization - for a few thousand years they guard our supplies.
BTW, up to a certain point (not exceeding certain period of smoking / quiting quickly enough - basically mid-20's) the rates of illnesses associated with smoking are practically identical for non)never)-smokers and (ex)smokers.
Looking at some subject through rose-colored glasses influences what is perceived as "reasonable"/etc. point and its moderation...
Look, it's simple; that Jobs letter was in 2007 (with the circumstances I mentioned). Previously DRM was sugar-coted.
Apple was very actively preventing other companies / entities from licensing (etc.) their DRM, so you are the one who plays revisionist history, again and again.
More than music, less than apps...there's plenty.
And please, eAAC and eAAC+ ar two different things; if you play V2 on a device which supports only V1, it sounds worse than just feeding it V1.
Or, putting it in more neutral terms, parasites which were influencing rats in the general direction of such behaviors left more descendants.
At least try to consider in what part it might be observer bias...
Hah, you're sure meandering somewhere. We're actually talking about long-term trends for Apple, supporting eAAC+ for less than a month certainly falls under that.
Mixtapes, not DRM. What they actually do with format (sure they would take a good, ready one...why wouldn't they?).
And most generally, about weird coincidences between when Apple announces dropping DRM, starts to convince people "we always wanted it" (nothing new, really, with all "we are first" from them...) just while other types of content were becoming popular (and are still DRM'd) and when few serious investigations were getting up to speed.
Yeah, keep telling yourself that (I'm sure that's also the reason for the number of positive Apple news / announcements). Certainly it's not because perhaps some other people might have slightly clearer outlook... FYI, I do own an iPod and I'm quite happy with it - that mere fact itself isn't enough to whitewash it completely, forget about some things mentioned in the subthread just above; and generally I am a user of Apple products...perhaps not longer than many people on /. (just firmly into 90's), but certainly much longer & much more than almost anybody at my place, where Apple basically doesn't exist (the number of iPods I have ever seen in the wild can be probably counted on the fingers of one hand, in a reasonably prosperous late EU memberstate; that excludes mine of course); but so what?
You were talking about format, ergo something which doesn't have much to do with this locking / etc.
Now you try to attach to it mixtapes / "mix CDs"...ehhh.
Oh, right, they just now (gee, sorry I missed something like that) added something which others had for half a decade... (the more in the past, the more useful - sizes and bandwidths were smaller)
It's a lib... Can be packaged with application / fetched via Ovi / by Nokia smart installer if needed. And works from S60v3 FP1; very comfortably 3 years.
Why is it so hard to believe? That's why Nokia bought Trolltech.
Got it, they freed the music before they even offered it; even better now...
Why the change the subject to encoding format suddenly? Trying to put something behind? (NVM that it isn't nearly only about music; how did you dismiss that they "freed" music just when other types of content, still DRM'd, became semi-popular?)
Plus, Apple isn't that great at supporting DRM; it took them a long time to support eAAC; they still can't support properly eAAC+ stream when encountering one.
Why won't people just record loop via audio out/in, with present equipment the quality also won't really go down...
Sure DRM was not optional; Apple liked that music from iTunes is locked into iPods; most importantly, they "freed" music only when other types of content started becoming popular; and which are still very much locked.
(really, don't you see a problem with following what they claim, since 2007 only, to the letter?)
"Dismissed"? What are you talking about? Of course it's Apple PR, what else would it be? (and on the other side - Nokia PR). That's why, again, "perhaps", etc.
Again, you very clearly presented the case from one side. Trying to escape from it now much?
Yes, giving you the radio technology is damn hard. Following on Braun visual design principles and polishing some codebase...not quite the same league.
You really forget GSMA association in all of this, they are the place through which all patents and fees for them would go (and BTW, they include technology relating to GSM in the portolio, not to UIs; remember that funny case when Apple used as defense some "iPod" from the 70's BTW?)
That was just part of optional very vigorous arms race there...
And really, stop presenting Audio CD as just "stripping the DRM", it also does you no good.
Ahh, you finally got it. Remember I was the one who used the word "perhaps even" & "we'll see how that dispute ends up"; you constructed your first response, which mentioned strictly Apple's side (hence their PR), as an outright explanation of whole situation), don't backpedal on it now...
(I'm pretty much waiting what will happen; both sides of course will say what's best for them - but consider typical scope of UI patents, or that GSMA even allows one of its members to take such action)
Right, burning to the CD (backups? Are you sure you're not remembering this incorrectly / that's no way to do them)...so why, again, they needed it at all in the initial non-transcoded files that people usually put on their (their) player?
And you really don't remember numerous cease and desist letters? Some as recently as around a year ago? (Requiem software, forcing some forums to remove posts about it and the software itself into Tor hidden server). Plus, and arms race (also recent one about Requiem) with changing the way iTunes DRM works is very much optional on the part of Apple; as is DMCA.
You are wrong. At the end of 2007 there were 3.3 billion mobile subscribers. Two years later it was 4.6 billion subscribers.
Sure, many markets have above 100% penetration; but OTOH in many other places (primarily those which didn't have much of a communication means to speak of previously) people (family, for example) often share one mobile phone. It's frequent enough that lower end ones have multiple "user accounts."
It was a useful tidbit of info as a counterexample in the response. Or, what, an issue of sort of disregarding vast majority of people pushes you to...disregard what some people say as irrelevant?
So it wasn't mentioning the position of Apple / one possible way of looking at the issue? Presenting outright the proper interpretation of it?? IC...
And yet when Apple was claiming this (certainly not from the beginning) they were threatening right and left anybody trying to circumvent their DRM.
Heh, news sites sometimes do a thing called quotation, you know...
Has sold half of what you think, actually.
And yeah, generally quite laughable; but could have (rather doesn't have of course) some merit, under certain bounds. Such proceedings would be on the level of one market, for starters; and there just happens to be a visible one where Nokia almost doesn't exist...though of course it doesn't seem like domination of Apple will be possible.
But there is another case possible - one market across the Pond to the mentioned above, which tries to protect customers / has, among other, rules about bundled deals, et al. The story goes that Apple dropping iTunes DRM was also influenced by several high profile lawsuits there about abusing iTunes lock-in. Remember monopoly itself isn't illegal, only when it abuses. And abuses themselves are enough.
You know, it doesn't do you any good to just repeat verbatim what Apple claims. They want to pay the same, sure...as any other company in GSMA who did hard R&D, not some UI ideas stuff.
BTW, you missed that not only Nokia is involved... (they just have not only one of the largest contributions; also are a useful front of the case, without a possibility of loosing much due to any temporary turmoil in the US market)
Well, thin should do fine with very "dense", in a way, supporting structure of aerogel; thin helps light (and some aerogels are already much lighter than air).
But anyway, it's probably mostly impractical - the main problem with lighter-than-air vessels is that they have to be large for their mass, which in turn makes them relatively slow and, most importantly, at the mercy of winds; much less controllable. "Rigid airships" exploring other bodies in our system might be sensible - wild temperatures mean trouble for fillable skins; OTOH often large size of entry vehicle for rigid variant is probably even more problematic...
Perhaps a hybrid of aircraft and airship could be at least semi-sensible; or not, and the concept is mostly unworkable.
So now we'll just twist what the term means at will, to include just what we want at a given moment?
Considering they have still the largest, by far, chunk of smartphone market; and the biggest gains in numbers - it's most likely not too late at all (unless you mean your situation; which obviously wouldn't apply / Qt is a quite recent addition)
Plan with Maemo was quite clear for a long time - refine it in successive versions, with N900 being the last step before a device meant for mostly general consumption. If anything, battery technology allows something on such "full" OS just now (considering they usually try to not forget about battery life) - how large was the 770? How long it lasted?
BTW, a year before your 770 there was something with, supposedly, a precursor to Hildon UI - 7710. And generally quite "fully modern" touchscreen phone. Symbian, though... ;)
So be it, if those are developers wanting to restrict my intake of good games - generally wanting from me not to value what's simply good (only what's "new & hot"); not caring about word-of-mouth and overall satisfied customers - who may buy something at launch thanks to it - there's a very high chance of Elemental (Stardock) finding its way to me that way.