Well, in that case you really should put upfront a disclaimer that what you're writing is from a perspective of a very atypical market... Their ecosystem is opened, generally.
"Symbian has an awkward architecture requiring the locked down aspects of the phone be hardware separated from the OS, or else phones be limited to running screened apps"? One of the bonuses of Symbian is its EKA2 kernel, giving the ability to run signaling stack and the OS on one CPU (and hence lowering price). Requirement of apps to be signed can also be typically simply switched off.
They are already at below $150, before subsidies of course, with Nokia 5230. Interestingly, even though it's S60v5/S^1 (well, in reality Nokia is also backporting many features of S^2 to that gen of hardware) touchscreen, it seems to be slightly less expensive than cheapest S60v3 devices; perhaps effects of large scale manufacturing simplified(?) by touchscreen?
There's still a lot of S30 BTW; and why exactly S40 is not a smartphone if the first iPhone was?...;)
It's a vestige from S40 (people do generally seem to like and appreciate its menu-driven UI BTW) - when S60 started, it was probably (and for a years) the best idea to built on UI concepts from S40; which worked decently nice.
Problem is, after a while all the functionality present started to outgrow that model of interaction.
)others have pointed out how you can move applications, I'll just add that you can certainly make the homescreen practically "clean")
What do you mean? Vast majority of what Nokia sells is basically completely unlocked; some branding here and there, at most, being the rule.
In fact, the story goes that one of the contributing factors in Nokia being mostly driven out of US market was some unwillingness to castrate their phones too much.
Considering Nokia has ~37% of total mobile phone sales, that would be still a lot. But there's also Samsung (#2 with 21%) and SE (around 5%); and some devices made by Fujitsu, Sony Ericsson Japan, Mitsubishi, Sharp, et al for NTT Docomo.
Except for some...interesting;) secondary properties, would a 70%/30% mix of hydrogen and oxygen be equally fine as far as human organism is concerned? (hm, given controlled enough usage style?)
But if you would multiply that by the number of all other people doing such experiments / fun and telling themselves (well, OK, mostly just don't know & don't care) that they don't have an impact?
Nobody's there to see your uber piloting skillz anyway. You're there do other things than mucking a day or two (including preparations / refreshing training) with something that can just as well be done automatically.
That's mostly a bad fantasy. For a long, long time the most efficient way will be just to keep this planet fine; with space efforts useful, but in a different way - satellites for Earth science or to guard off against impactors.
Other than that - we've been in space for half a century and, essentially, none of the Space Age dreams have become a reality. With good reasons, we don't have the required technology, required energy.
Now, if we would have them - we still wouldn't need to go into space in any large numbers. We would have everything on Earth, easier and more efficiently.
Couple centimeters when talking about radial distance is not a good choice. But BTW, you can quite easily estimate the distance - look at time passing between crossing the same spot for two objects, and remember they are moving at ~7.7 km/s.
I saw them certainly that night, too; Progress being ~20 km (OK, I had the benefit of star background) in front.
There is one large category of apps with manahed code, fif you really want it, though - j2me;)
Perhaps even the UI will get nice (again - it was decently nice initially, bringing with it the menu-driven style from S40; but it outgrew that style), S^4 concepts don't look half bad...
Plus it's actually, hm, more than RIM and iPhone combined (since those two are the next biggest ones apparently, now); and quite close to larger than the next 3 (including Android), combined.
Look at the shootout of platforms Nokia uses - there's still quite sizable number of S30 mobile phones (1200, 1208, 1202, 1280, 1616, C1-00...), 20% is Symbian, MeeGo a very small part; but majority is S40, the most popular mobile platform on the planet.
Nokia "replacing" Symbian with MeeGo on the high-end is a typical modus operandi for Nokia; time goes by, and what was once available only to very small group of people (S30 was once hot) can now be had by greater and greater numbers of them (1280 costs 20 Euro, without contract). Now it's time for Symbian on the mainstream (5230 is less than 120 Euro, also without contract of course)
And the beauty of it - both MeeGo and Symbian will soon have Qt as the main, underlying API. Expect Symbian to be very big throughout this decade; and also next one, when it might be good for the range where S30 is now, I guess. With shifts to MeeGo very smooth for people anyway.
PS. Another somehow forgotten OS which will be big is bada OS. Samsung plans to put it on very large number of devices, and considering they are the #2 manufacturer behind Nokia only...
They are actually growing (it's all int the financial reports); don't know/don't care much "why?", perhaps device manufacturers and telcos value what Opera offers after all. And with Opera as #1 mobile browser by worldwide usage (despite many of its users surely being rather cautious with number of sites visited / data transferred), the outlook doesn't look so bad - after all, they are doing fine despite being by far the longest without corporate daddy out of all major browsers.
So you haven't noticed that ZSNES, Snes9x, or VICE, all at least very close to the best emulators in their class, are available for prety much any OS that matters? Makes one wonder about your other points.
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How many years ago was the 8->9 shift? And now one can simply target Qt.
Well, in that case you really should put upfront a disclaimer that what you're writing is from a perspective of a very atypical market...
Their ecosystem is opened, generally.
"Symbian has an awkward architecture requiring the locked down aspects of the phone be hardware separated from the OS, or else phones be limited to running screened apps"? One of the bonuses of Symbian is its EKA2 kernel, giving the ability to run signaling stack and the OS on one CPU (and hence lowering price). Requirement of apps to be signed can also be typically simply switched off.
They are already at below $150, before subsidies of course, with Nokia 5230. Interestingly, even though it's S60v5/S^1 (well, in reality Nokia is also backporting many features of S^2 to that gen of hardware) touchscreen, it seems to be slightly less expensive than cheapest S60v3 devices; perhaps effects of large scale manufacturing simplified(?) by touchscreen?
There's still a lot of S30 BTW; and why exactly S40 is not a smartphone if the first iPhone was?... ;)
It's a vestige from S40 (people do generally seem to like and appreciate its menu-driven UI BTW) - when S60 started, it was probably (and for a years) the best idea to built on UI concepts from S40; which worked decently nice.
Problem is, after a while all the functionality present started to outgrow that model of interaction.
)others have pointed out how you can move applications, I'll just add that you can certainly make the homescreen practically "clean")
What do you mean? Vast majority of what Nokia sells is basically completely unlocked; some branding here and there, at most, being the rule.
In fact, the story goes that one of the contributing factors in Nokia being mostly driven out of US market was some unwillingness to castrate their phones too much.
Considering Nokia has ~37% of total mobile phone sales, that would be still a lot. But there's also Samsung (#2 with 21%) and SE (around 5%); and some devices made by Fujitsu, Sony Ericsson Japan, Mitsubishi, Sharp, et al for NTT Docomo.
Except for some...interesting ;) secondary properties, would a 70%/30% mix of hydrogen and oxygen be equally fine as far as human organism is concerned? (hm, given controlled enough usage style?)
But if you would multiply that by the number of all other people doing such experiments / fun and telling themselves (well, OK, mostly just don't know & don't care) that they don't have an impact?
Nobody's there to see your uber piloting skillz anyway. You're there do other things than mucking a day or two (including preparations / refreshing training) with something that can just as well be done automatically.
That's mostly a bad fantasy. For a long, long time the most efficient way will be just to keep this planet fine; with space efforts useful, but in a different way - satellites for Earth science or to guard off against impactors.
Other than that - we've been in space for half a century and, essentially, none of the Space Age dreams have become a reality. With good reasons, we don't have the required technology, required energy.
Now, if we would have them - we still wouldn't need to go into space in any large numbers. We would have everything on Earth, easier and more efficiently.
Hey, that system (used also on Soyuz; and on Progress used for fresh supplies) would be useless without people!
Couple centimeters when talking about radial distance is not a good choice. But BTW, you can quite easily estimate the distance - look at time passing between crossing the same spot for two objects, and remember they are moving at ~7.7 km/s.
I saw them certainly that night, too; Progress being ~20 km (OK, I had the benefit of star background) in front.
There is one large category of apps with manahed code, fif you really want it, though - j2me ;)
Perhaps even the UI will get nice (again - it was decently nice initially, bringing with it the menu-driven style from S40; but it outgrew that style), S^4 concepts don't look half bad...
And then there's 5230, less than $150 without contract.
Plus it's actually, hm, more than RIM and iPhone combined (since those two are the next biggest ones apparently, now); and quite close to larger than the next 3 (including Android), combined.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MOAP
http://blog.symbian.org/2010/06/01/ntt-docomo-releases-s2-devices/
Four. There's still quite a lot of devices with S30.
And I'd say phone is also the primary function for the last category you mention; at least you can expect it to work... ;)
Look at the shootout of platforms Nokia uses - there's still quite sizable number of S30 mobile phones (1200, 1208, 1202, 1280, 1616, C1-00...), 20% is Symbian, MeeGo a very small part; but majority is S40, the most popular mobile platform on the planet.
Nokia "replacing" Symbian with MeeGo on the high-end is a typical modus operandi for Nokia; time goes by, and what was once available only to very small group of people (S30 was once hot) can now be had by greater and greater numbers of them (1280 costs 20 Euro, without contract). Now it's time for Symbian on the mainstream (5230 is less than 120 Euro, also without contract of course)
And the beauty of it - both MeeGo and Symbian will soon have Qt as the main, underlying API. Expect Symbian to be very big throughout this decade; and also next one, when it might be good for the range where S30 is now, I guess. With shifts to MeeGo very smooth for people anyway.
PS. Another somehow forgotten OS which will be big is bada OS. Samsung plans to put it on very large number of devices, and considering they are the #2 manufacturer behind Nokia only...
That's not how the term is used / one nation seems to claim the term for itself.
It's pushing to expect Americans to know there is another side of the world.
And even if they do, it's pushing to expect them to know where is the other side of the world.
Or almost somebody across the border, and generally a neighbor culturally, no? ;p
I was always partial to Big Brother Corporation...
Even better, this one is orders of magnitude faster than a potato
If you only took your sig to heart...
They are actually growing (it's all int the financial reports); don't know/don't care much "why?", perhaps device manufacturers and telcos value what Opera offers after all. And with Opera as #1 mobile browser by worldwide usage (despite many of its users surely being rather cautious with number of sites visited / data transferred), the outlook doesn't look so bad - after all, they are doing fine despite being by far the longest without corporate daddy out of all major browsers.
So you haven't noticed that ZSNES, Snes9x, or VICE, all at least very close to the best emulators in their class, are available for prety much any OS that matters? Makes one wonder about your other points.