And yet you choose companies which do rely on Chinese sweatshops; ignoring other options.
Nokia is a nice example. By far the largest phone manufacturer in the world (except few odd places like...the US). 15 fabs; all owned by Nokia; two of them in China (hey, the local market is huge); seven of them in the EU (plus Mexico, Brazil, South Korea and India). Employs directly 125k people. Has durable and affordable products. All of the above probably also adds noticeably to positive contributions of Nokia to humanity (the chief one being that they are greatly responsible for giving ~5 billion of present mobile subsribers a means to communicate; seems Nokia really took their corporate slogan to heart) But not relying in sweatshops gives worse simple metrics like "profit margins", so "investors" are not pleased lately...
They already had "an old fashioned, rivers of blood revolution". Those are just chaos, tending to only strengthen the extremes present in given society, IMHO. And ultimatelly their political system is probably quite representational; systems of governance are, in the end, a reflection of society - from where do you think all the "opressors" come from?
Apple (and many other companies...) does choose sweatchops; it's how they ride with their high profit margins. Some companies do own their fabs; most of them being even not in China.
Or perhaps mostly because "investors" want easily understandable profit margins? Without looking at how their business practices work long-term and how they influence the landscape outside of the company...
The #1 mobile phone company does own all their 15 fabs. Only 5 of them being in Asia, 7 in the EU. With their phones being quite affordable.
Nokia is also worth mentioning (as you almost did; BTW, is this ranking about "stated, end-users price of goods"? The only way it can work like that, I guess?). Out of their 15 manufacturing facilities, only 5 are in the "Asian" hub (3 in China, 1 in Korea and 2 in Inia; the latter being in their own hub basically). Except 3 in Finland, which is somehow natural (but does Apple have even one in the US?), there's one in Mexico (even US companies typically escaped from there to China in recent years, right?), Brazil, UK, Germany, Hungary, Romania.
All of them owned; not some 3rd party sweatshops contracted to do stuff. And with Nokia devices being rather affordable.
But hey, that's not what "investors" like in our present world...
You're grealty underestimating Atom power usage and overestimating ARM one; they are typically at least an order of magnitude apart, quite often two.
Now consider that in my damn Wintel PC (or...in those Atom ones you mention) there is most likely more ARM cores than x86 ones; to say nothing of all the devices around me. Heck, virtually all mobile phones are built around ARM. Even that is, at worst, around the number of all PCs in existence...but annually.
Adding to what i.r.id10t said - how often did you use search annotations and moving results up/down when that was available? Plus in new search sidebar there's "fewer shopping sites"; that and strong position of sites which are good starting hubs of information is probably most Google can do; at least untill they have strong AI.
And, somehow, not everybody has such problems when making searches...
MeeGo & Qt (on which MeeGo UI is being built upon) to the rescue, eventually? Qt Embedded can run without X, via QWS. Maybe there won't be much of a problem with having a MeeGo variant which gets rid of X (hence also compatibility with Moblin / non-Qt software...)
So you're comparing national average to the rate of suicide only among working-age people ("adults" might be a bit of stretch) which happened at the facilities.
Just...buy from companies which don't do sweatshops.
TFS is about mobile phone - so here it would be certainly Nokia (perhaps some others, too, I don't know). It owns it's fabs (most of them NOT in China), itself employs 125k people in total. And the prices are actually comparable or lower (which says where the extra cash from using sweatshops goes to)
...Tell me, what other company is producing any products that are news worthy? Seriously?... But honestly, what other companies have been doing ANYTHING news worthy? Nobody. All MS and others have to offer at this point is vaporware and stuff they plan on doing. At least Apple is producing stuff. Seems to me that the other companies are waiting to see what Apple is doing before they commit to anything.
Yeah, that's so nice of an explanation...
In case you haven't noticed, in the last 3 years Apple has introduced one new product. One. (if you want to count under-the-hood tech upgrades, then surely other companies have much more of them...) Also, they don't actually produce stuff, Chinese sweatshops are for that (of course you'd like to also think that's a rule - not so, for example Nokia employs 125k people directly, owns all their fabs, and most of them are not in China...)
...It's amazing that no people have ever tried it.
Thing is, really hardly anybody tried it (except for rather small "communes"); I can't think about examples where it wasn't about oligarchy from the beginning. A different kind of oligarchy than before; but nonetheless a continuation of what that particular society was used to, more or less. Almost like it was roughly(!) the only plausible state for given society... And I'm saying this being from one of the "formerly communist" ones. Homo sovieticus isn't gone; it will be still a generation or two, minimum.
(BTW - I haven't looked at factors in the Far East, but if you look at the sphere of "Western civilisation", at the map - there's a very curious, strong correlation between places which had serious "problems with communists" and...those which are traditionally Catholic or Eastern Orthodox ("old mainstream Christianity", generally); I don't think that's a coincidence - my place was also one of the most strongly feudal ones, for example; just different masters)
How is that risk any different during ordinary flashing?
And we're talking about unlocked, debranded Symbian phones; even if cheaper, they have all the features (except for any obvious hardware differences of course)
Can't you just debrand the phone? It was awlays quite straightforward with Symbian devices. As far as "skyrocketing you into another price bracket"...OTOH you can choose more affordable models and get cheaper plan/prepaid (yeah, I know, US specifics)
Strictly speaking AMOLED...is TFT; "TFT LCD" in the latter case would be more precise.;)
People forget that such choice is (or was...(*)) mostly about answering the question "do I want a screan looking great inside but weak in sunlight (OLED) or do I want a high chance of a screen which is merely good inside and...good in sunlight? (if that's transfelctive LCD)".
(*) Admittedly, in recent times various types of touchscreens, often put on top, and neglecting transflective LCDs make it even more murky
How is this one dedicated to open source? Sure, they threw some bits here and there; but can it even be run independently of MS OS? (that would a nice thing, on some small robot with "weak" non-x86 CPU)
Anyway, in robotics people seem to be wiser and this MS suite doesn't enjoy much uptake compared to fully free/OSS ones.
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And yet you choose companies which do rely on Chinese sweatshops; ignoring other options.
Nokia is a nice example. By far the largest phone manufacturer in the world (except few odd places like...the US). 15 fabs; all owned by Nokia; two of them in China (hey, the local market is huge); seven of them in the EU (plus Mexico, Brazil, South Korea and India). Employs directly 125k people. Has durable and affordable products.
All of the above probably also adds noticeably to positive contributions of Nokia to humanity (the chief one being that they are greatly responsible for giving ~5 billion of present mobile subsribers a means to communicate; seems Nokia really took their corporate slogan to heart)
But not relying in sweatshops gives worse simple metrics like "profit margins", so "investors" are not pleased lately...
They already had "an old fashioned, rivers of blood revolution". Those are just chaos, tending to only strengthen the extremes present in given society, IMHO. And ultimatelly their political system is probably quite representational; systems of governance are, in the end, a reflection of society - from where do you think all the "opressors" come from?
Apple (and many other companies...) does choose sweatchops; it's how they ride with their high profit margins. Some companies do own their fabs; most of them being even not in China.
Or perhaps mostly because "investors" want easily understandable profit margins? Without looking at how their business practices work long-term and how they influence the landscape outside of the company...
The #1 mobile phone company does own all their 15 fabs. Only 5 of them being in Asia, 7 in the EU. With their phones being quite affordable.
Nokia is also worth mentioning (as you almost did; BTW, is this ranking about "stated, end-users price of goods"? The only way it can work like that, I guess?). Out of their 15 manufacturing facilities, only 5 are in the "Asian" hub (3 in China, 1 in Korea and 2 in Inia; the latter being in their own hub basically). Except 3 in Finland, which is somehow natural (but does Apple have even one in the US?), there's one in Mexico (even US companies typically escaped from there to China in recent years, right?), Brazil, UK, Germany, Hungary, Romania.
All of them owned; not some 3rd party sweatshops contracted to do stuff. And with Nokia devices being rather affordable.
But hey, that's not what "investors" like in our present world...
You're grealty underestimating Atom power usage and overestimating ARM one; they are typically at least an order of magnitude apart, quite often two.
Now consider that in my damn Wintel PC (or...in those Atom ones you mention) there is most likely more ARM cores than x86 ones; to say nothing of all the devices around me.
Heck, virtually all mobile phones are built around ARM. Even that is, at worst, around the number of all PCs in existence...but annually.
And all those 486s controlling Shuttles or...Airbuses should just dissapear!
Adding to what i.r.id10t said - how often did you use search annotations and moving results up/down when that was available? Plus in new search sidebar there's "fewer shopping sites"; that and strong position of sites which are good starting hubs of information is probably most Google can do; at least untill they have strong AI.
And, somehow, not everybody has such problems when making searches...
And those show exactly that Android is hardly optimised for them. Read their reviews.
MeeGo & Qt (on which MeeGo UI is being built upon) to the rescue, eventually? Qt Embedded can run without X, via QWS. Maybe there won't be much of a problem with having a MeeGo variant which gets rid of X (hence also compatibility with Moblin / non-Qt software...)
Plus MeeGo is supposed to be meant for devices like these...eventually.
It has more usable screen and keyboard?
Haven't you answered yourself right there?
Impression.
All things considered, those are mostly normal laptops. Android is nowhere near optimised for that usage scanario.
How much of a motivation, to look into something like this, there would be?
Still might easily fall under lack of rights, etc.
How many such stories there needs to be before it's also customer fault?
Meanwhile, some manufacturers own their fabs; most of those fabs not in China...
So you're comparing national average to the rate of suicide only among working-age people ("adults" might be a bit of stretch) which happened at the facilities.
Just...buy from companies which don't do sweatshops.
TFS is about mobile phone - so here it would be certainly Nokia (perhaps some others, too, I don't know). It owns it's fabs (most of them NOT in China), itself employs 125k people in total. And the prices are actually comparable or lower (which says where the extra cash from using sweatshops goes to)
...Tell me, what other company is producing any products that are news worthy? Seriously? ... But honestly, what other companies have been doing ANYTHING news worthy? Nobody. All MS and others have to offer at this point is vaporware and stuff they plan on doing. At least Apple is producing stuff. Seems to me that the other companies are waiting to see what Apple is doing before they commit to anything.
Yeah, that's so nice of an explanation...
In case you haven't noticed, in the last 3 years Apple has introduced one new product. One. (if you want to count under-the-hood tech upgrades, then surely other companies have much more of them...)
Also, they don't actually produce stuff, Chinese sweatshops are for that (of course you'd like to also think that's a rule - not so, for example Nokia employs 125k people directly, owns all their fabs, and most of them are not in China...)
...It's amazing that no people have ever tried it.
Thing is, really hardly anybody tried it (except for rather small "communes"); I can't think about examples where it wasn't about oligarchy from the beginning. A different kind of oligarchy than before; but nonetheless a continuation of what that particular society was used to, more or less. Almost like it was roughly(!) the only plausible state for given society...
And I'm saying this being from one of the "formerly communist" ones. Homo sovieticus isn't gone; it will be still a generation or two, minimum.
(BTW - I haven't looked at factors in the Far East, but if you look at the sphere of "Western civilisation", at the map - there's a very curious, strong correlation between places which had serious "problems with communists" and...those which are traditionally Catholic or Eastern Orthodox ("old mainstream Christianity", generally); I don't think that's a coincidence - my place was also one of the most strongly feudal ones, for example; just different masters)
Of course now you have to explain why, say, workers building phones for Nokia, in quite similar industrial parks, don't see the same fate.
Might be something to do with the fact that Nokia actually owns all their fabs (also most of them is NOT in China)
How is that risk any different during ordinary flashing?
And we're talking about unlocked, debranded Symbian phones; even if cheaper, they have all the features (except for any obvious hardware differences of course)
W8, what? How will the domination (as far as numbers go) of constantly moving WiFi hotspots help that?
Can't you just debrand the phone? It was awlays quite straightforward with Symbian devices. As far as "skyrocketing you into another price bracket"...OTOH you can choose more affordable models and get cheaper plan/prepaid (yeah, I know, US specifics)
Strictly speaking AMOLED...is TFT; "TFT LCD" in the latter case would be more precise. ;)
People forget that such choice is (or was...(*)) mostly about answering the question "do I want a screan looking great inside but weak in sunlight (OLED) or do I want a high chance of a screen which is merely good inside and...good in sunlight? (if that's transfelctive LCD)".
(*) Admittedly, in recent times various types of touchscreens, often put on top, and neglecting transflective LCDs make it even more murky
How is this one dedicated to open source? Sure, they threw some bits here and there; but can it even be run independently of MS OS? (that would a nice thing, on some small robot with "weak" non-x86 CPU)
Anyway, in robotics people seem to be wiser and this MS suite doesn't enjoy much uptake compared to fully free/OSS ones.