Poor words being, potentially, propped up by charismatic speaker and somebody willing to say such words only on the condition that people won't be able to know what kind of fool he might be are two completelly different things; why do you want to confuse them?
No accidents are necessary - emissions from "normal" chemical processing can be not only toxic but...radioactive (most notably with coal powerplants, releasing to the biosphere huge amounts of radioactive isotopes that were safely locked under the ground; heck, it's even economical to extract from their ashes fuel for nuclear powerplants...)
But hardly anybody cares how many thousands of asthma/etc. related deaths occur annually because of such regular emissions...
That doesn't explain why specifically Catholicism, out of the Christian group, does so well in poor countries. No, it's not so simple, I'm afraid.
There's a lot of self-serving going on (especially if you consider that Vatican actually has very little cash; most funds are semi-local). Or look at how Vatican universally supported right-wing dictatorships throughout S. America - how does that honestly fit with "helping the poor"?
Maybe, just maybe people are starting to see that such help is also (only "also"!) self-serving. How it prepares fertile ground; and not just in those specific people who are being fed (etc.) - for starters, Catholic Church likes to convince people to breed as much as they can. That's usefull...
Yes, of course, we know. When the Church does something good, that's thanks to the virtue of the Church, and help of the God Allmighty himself. When the Church does something bad, that's just ancillary failure, only human nature really; nothing to be concerned about or too deeply scrutinized.
Are you really suggesting that striving to "inspire people" rather than direct, sometimes brutal "defensive" (or really offensive...) actions are in some way old fashioned for religions, traditional?
Though churches (of all kind) definitelly deserve to be really unfamous because of such actions. They are the ones claiming absolute moral authority ffs...
BTW, it seems that scaring people is an old trick, just with methods changing. Legends, then generally dark powers of Satan (or something), "dangerous" neighbouring communities, lands, societies, countries...
That's why I wrote "the Church", not "a church" or "churches"...
Besides, how many major policies were introduced by young people in your church? Most faiths revolve around "the wisdom of ancestors", hence also "elders". Young people can do what they think is right as long as the "elders" won't protest on a whim. Heck, what is the size of it in comparison to the Catholic Church? (doomed?)
I really wonder how that ends up, in practice, for Opera. Sure, it's rather unknown in large part of the world - but it's typically #2 (yes, leading the pack of "alternative browsers") and sometimes #1 (ahead of IE) browser in the post Soviet Block. Where supposedly large part of "internet crime" has its roots.
Is it related somehow? Do they leave alone Opera for fear of conflict with local authorities? (doubtful, IE and FF are still used in large numbers after all) Using what is, in the end, inherently safer?
As such, I believe homosexuals have always been overrepresented in the celibate castes.
That does seem to be the case, indeed. I have a buddy who, at one point, tried to become a catholic monk (not sure which order); he was eventually rejected from the monastery because of...mild (easily controlled) epilepsy; yes, those isntitutions are so archaic. But during his probation there it turned out not only that one of the ways of dealing with "hardships" of monastic life is quite rampant alcoholism (well, that might be a reason of rejecting epileptics, too...), but also that there's a way above average proportion of homosexuals - between 1/3 and 1/2 of population of his order. Not that he would mind it much, being himself a homosexual...
That of course a singular sample; but I can't see any plausible reason why other monasteries and also seminaries would be much different.
Dwindling in importance? Are you certain? EU is considered quite readily as one of the most major powers lately, culturally it retains its identity fine (plus look past popculture; and also from where most of that popculture originated...); and demographically it won't be that big of a problem, I suspect - yes, it will need a wave of immigrants...so? Sure, there are failure stories, but also huge success stories (the largest population of "Muslims" in EU is probably in Germany; rather nicely integrated)
As for the topic - the Catholic Church will of course continue to increase in so called "3rd world" countries. But remember it doesn't have to reform itself to do that... (I would even guess that would inhibit its growth in impoverished areas!) And since its losing importance basically only in Europe (also the place of TFA), it's sensible to assume we're discussing only that area.
Relgion was (or is, in places) the direct equivalent and predecessor of what you perceive as "political power"; nothing less (certainly still strives to not just be a tool)
It's not a doctrine, it's an ecclesial law. Can be changed at a whim by one signature; wasn't even nearly a universal custom in the past (heck, around XIII century AFAI remember, when the Vatican envoy arrived in my area with the mission of sorting out actual introduction of celibacy...well, he did reasonably well in Czech; but in Poland he barely escaped with his life)
I don't think they can easily combat underlying circumstances. See, France and generally (though not as a whole...) Europe has changed, it's waking up. Secularization has progressed quite a lot; I wouldn't be surpised if, by the time of next Eurobarometer polls regarding faith, less than 50% of Europeans will declare themselves religious. It wasn't that far the last time...
Priesthood, being a priest simply lost its social prestige. It's not "cool" (and this FB campaign likely won't change that...even if they would show some of the excesses in seminaries or monasteries) anymore to have a priest in the family.
And no, they won't introduce changes proposed by you, not for the next few decades - remember that the Church is essentially run by the "elders" (and this trend will get stronger with few young priests); it's not only about their conservatism, also personal distaste - those are the men (well, supposedly...) who gave their entire lifes to church, distanced themselves from "earthly joys". Do you think they could bear the sight of young happy priests (also women), with families, happily fucking without any potential problems?
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And who determines they are "true" believers? Oh, they themselves?...
Where's the logic in reverting to ancient version of lighwave but at the same time unwillingness to hold on to the previous release of Blender?
Poor words being, potentially, propped up by charismatic speaker and somebody willing to say such words only on the condition that people won't be able to know what kind of fool he might be are two completelly different things; why do you want to confuse them?
8 month release cycle...so you want openSUSE? ;p
OTOH, it shows how somebody is unwilling to stand behind his words (and in cases where the consequences would be mostly harmless...)
No problem, as long as its proportional to consumption.
...and per capita one of the worst modern countries of purchase power (money left) after necessary costs, infact probably the worst: Finland...
Don't be too certain about that; I have similar prices of gas (similar of all the rest, too, actually); with around 3 times smaller wages.
No accidents are necessary - emissions from "normal" chemical processing can be not only toxic but...radioactive (most notably with coal powerplants, releasing to the biosphere huge amounts of radioactive isotopes that were safely locked under the ground; heck, it's even economical to extract from their ashes fuel for nuclear powerplants...)
But hardly anybody cares how many thousands of asthma/etc. related deaths occur annually because of such regular emissions...
Your dear information processing seems to be the culprit with flying cars...
You're doing it wrong, it's all about the "calling".
You do unintentionally point out a bit the absurdity of degrees from imaginary knowledge, though...
That doesn't explain why specifically Catholicism, out of the Christian group, does so well in poor countries. No, it's not so simple, I'm afraid.
There's a lot of self-serving going on (especially if you consider that Vatican actually has very little cash; most funds are semi-local). Or look at how Vatican universally supported right-wing dictatorships throughout S. America - how does that honestly fit with "helping the poor"?
Maybe, just maybe people are starting to see that such help is also (only "also"!) self-serving. How it prepares fertile ground; and not just in those specific people who are being fed (etc.) - for starters, Catholic Church likes to convince people to breed as much as they can. That's usefull...
Yes, of course, we know. When the Church does something good, that's thanks to the virtue of the Church, and help of the God Allmighty himself.
When the Church does something bad, that's just ancillary failure, only human nature really; nothing to be concerned about or too deeply scrutinized.
Are you really suggesting that striving to "inspire people" rather than direct, sometimes brutal "defensive" (or really offensive...) actions are in some way old fashioned for religions, traditional?
Really?! O_o
Same can be said about Texas, or Confederate vs. Union States.
Last I checked Catholic Church also supposedly didn't have a lot of pull in the attorney's offices throghout the world...
Though churches (of all kind) definitelly deserve to be really unfamous because of such actions. They are the ones claiming absolute moral authority ffs...
BTW, it seems that scaring people is an old trick, just with methods changing. Legends, then generally dark powers of Satan (or something), "dangerous" neighbouring communities, lands, societies, countries...
That's why I wrote "the Church", not "a church" or "churches"...
Besides, how many major policies were introduced by young people in your church? Most faiths revolve around "the wisdom of ancestors", hence also "elders". Young people can do what they think is right as long as the "elders" won't protest on a whim.
Heck, what is the size of it in comparison to the Catholic Church? (doomed?)
I really wonder how that ends up, in practice, for Opera. Sure, it's rather unknown in large part of the world - but it's typically #2 (yes, leading the pack of "alternative browsers") and sometimes #1 (ahead of IE) browser in the post Soviet Block. Where supposedly large part of "internet crime" has its roots.
Is it related somehow? Do they leave alone Opera for fear of conflict with local authorities? (doubtful, IE and FF are still used in large numbers after all) Using what is, in the end, inherently safer?
As such, I believe homosexuals have always been overrepresented in the celibate castes.
That does seem to be the case, indeed. I have a buddy who, at one point, tried to become a catholic monk (not sure which order); he was eventually rejected from the monastery because of...mild (easily controlled) epilepsy; yes, those isntitutions are so archaic. But during his probation there it turned out not only that one of the ways of dealing with "hardships" of monastic life is quite rampant alcoholism (well, that might be a reason of rejecting epileptics, too...), but also that there's a way above average proportion of homosexuals - between 1/3 and 1/2 of population of his order. Not that he would mind it much, being himself a homosexual...
That of course a singular sample; but I can't see any plausible reason why other monasteries and also seminaries would be much different.
Dwindling in importance? Are you certain? EU is considered quite readily as one of the most major powers lately, culturally it retains its identity fine (plus look past popculture; and also from where most of that popculture originated...); and demographically it won't be that big of a problem, I suspect - yes, it will need a wave of immigrants...so? Sure, there are failure stories, but also huge success stories (the largest population of "Muslims" in EU is probably in Germany; rather nicely integrated)
As for the topic - the Catholic Church will of course continue to increase in so called "3rd world" countries. But remember it doesn't have to reform itself to do that... (I would even guess that would inhibit its growth in impoverished areas!)
And since its losing importance basically only in Europe (also the place of TFA), it's sensible to assume we're discussing only that area.
Relgion was (or is, in places) the direct equivalent and predecessor of what you perceive as "political power"; nothing less (certainly still strives to not just be a tool)
It's not a doctrine, it's an ecclesial law. Can be changed at a whim by one signature; wasn't even nearly a universal custom in the past (heck, around XIII century AFAI remember, when the Vatican envoy arrived in my area with the mission of sorting out actual introduction of celibacy...well, he did reasonably well in Czech; but in Poland he barely escaped with his life)
I don't think they can easily combat underlying circumstances. See, France and generally (though not as a whole...) Europe has changed, it's waking up. Secularization has progressed quite a lot; I wouldn't be surpised if, by the time of next Eurobarometer polls regarding faith, less than 50% of Europeans will declare themselves religious. It wasn't that far the last time...
Priesthood, being a priest simply lost its social prestige. It's not "cool" (and this FB campaign likely won't change that...even if they would show some of the excesses in seminaries or monasteries) anymore to have a priest in the family.
And no, they won't introduce changes proposed by you, not for the next few decades - remember that the Church is essentially run by the "elders" (and this trend will get stronger with few young priests); it's not only about their conservatism, also personal distaste - those are the men (well, supposedly...) who gave their entire lifes to church, distanced themselves from "earthly joys". Do you think they could bear the sight of young happy priests (also women), with families, happily fucking without any potential problems?
Also wrong. The biggest threat to children are parents (or generally close family and "friends"). As with most of serious crime BTW...