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Next Ubuntu Linux To Be a Maverick
VincenzoRomano writes "While the latest version of Ubuntu is still smoking hot, the Ubuntu development community is already working on the next step. Both the wiki and the bug tracking system at Launchpad have already been set up for Maverick Meerkat, which will be version number 10.10. This confirms the usual naming and numbering schema and the fact that the final release should be due in October. This next version, which obviously won't be Long Term Support (LTS), should sport a lighter and faster environment with GNOME 3.0, a.k.a. GNOME Shell, among the main advances. Everything has been explained by Mr. Shuttleworth in his own blog since the beginning of April. The first alpha release is not due earlier than the end of June, so maybe it'd be better to take advantage of the Lucid Lynx while the technical overview of the Meerkat starts getting more details."
It's peaked, time to work on something with a real shot at making this year of the Unix Desk Top.
Let's hope it comes with the 302 engine
I see that they're aiming for October 28. You'd think someone would have tried to aim the "Perfect 10" for a 10/10/10 release date.
I'm waiting for Naughty Nautilus myself.
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Forget those underwater invertebrates. Naughty Nymph FTW.
Colorless green Cthulhu waits dreaming furiously.
I know, I know, "'Ubuntu' is an African word meaning 'I'm too stupid for Slackware'" ... I don't use it myself (I use another distribution, not going to plug it here), but I've installed it for a number of friends and family members, and just installed Lynx for my brother, because:
1) Ease of install/configuration
2) Pretty easy transition from Windows
3) Lots of software in the repos
And some other reasons. LL is pretty sweet, so I think Shuttleworth & Co. are on the right track in many, if not all, ways.
So I think the announcement is pretty exciting. Gnome 3 looks very promising ... so next June' Maverick Meerkat could be pretty interesting.
The 6 month iterations are plain stupidity, IMO. Hardly anyone wants to "upgrade" that often, and when it's out, we all realize that it's the same old crap in a different color.. No real usability improvements.
They didn't accept my name, "Menstruating Mongoose". :(
Caffeine is my anti-drug!
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I've used Ubuntu as my primary desktop OS since 8.10, and I can say without reservation that 10.04 is the worst of the bunch. Why? They broke everything! And I'm not just talking about button placement. I fixed that in the first 10 minutes. The reason why I'm abandoning Ubuntu are simple: they dropped the quality ball on this release.
First I noticed that VirtualBox doesn't let you use bridged network unless you manually install some kernel drivers. Googling found that people had this problem for at least 3 months, and they still didn't fix it in the release. Second, upgrading uninstalled my Java plugin for Firefox, so I had to manually add the symlink. Third (and by far the worst), my 6GB machine became non-responsive in the first 24 hours of uptime -- on the same machine that typically had months of uptime on 8.10 through 9.10 (I only rebooted for security patches that required a reboot).
In conclusion: if they don't fix these problems in the next two weeks, I'll abandon Ubuntu for another distribution, and I'll never consider using Ubuntu again.
Will it be appearing on http://www.comparethemeerkat.com/ ?
But it gets current code out there and in use.
That's where the LTS releases come in. If you don't want to upgrade, you don't have to. For years.
In the meantime, the other people are hammering on the short-release cycle code.
I was really hoping for Majestik Moose. Seemed like the obvious choice to me.
Insert John McCain joke here.
Maverick Meerkat can see Windows 7 from its windowing system.
Seriously. I shouldn't have to dick around googling for out of date articles explaining which repository, script etc etc I need to download and arse around with to get Flash and Java working in the browser.
As a maverick, they are switching the kernel from Linux to Windows 7.
Who would win this election: Andrew Weiner vs Andrew Weiner's weiner.
I didn't know upgrading from one mediocre desktop experience to virtually the same mediocre desktop experience could keep someone on edge.
Q. Why was John McCain running for President? A. It was at the top of his bucket list.
I thought for sure they were going to name it "Masturbating Monkey"!
I've abandoned my search for truth; now I'm just looking for some useful delusions.
next release will be Goofy Goose. though half-way into development it'll get a bad spin and will crash on startup.
- -= Napalm means serious BBQ =-
I went against my earlier decision to wait a few weeks after the official release, and upgraded the night 10.04 came out. For the first time since I'm using Ubuntu from 7.04, nothing broke! I mean - network, virtual box, mail everything still worked. My only problem was getting use to the placement of the control box on the left instead of on the right. In terms of speed, I haven't seen any visible improvement in startup, but shutdown occurs in way less time than 9.10. This is the best Ubuntu yet!
I'm pretty sure Ubuntu is not planning on switching to Gnome Shell, they are highly customizing the old setup instead.
Well, since they already passed on Mincing Mollusc, I doubt they will have the exoskeleton for it.
I support the Slashcott and will not be reading or commenting from 2/10/14 to 2/17/14. Beta is steaming pile of dog shit
But, I though nymphs _were_ underwater invertebrates!
I've abandoned my search for truth; now I'm just looking for some useful delusions.
http://www.knowledgerush.com/kr/encyclopedia/Noolbenger/
they shoulda called this release the Lusty Llama!
-db
This begs to be a Sarah Palin joke.
In defiance of spelling nazis everywhere, I propose the next release be named "kneeling gnu".
I've abandoned my search for truth; now I'm just looking for some useful delusions.
Oh, I remember this joke! Very clever. Can I order some new joke format please? Something about how Shuttleworth is an astronaut and therefore wears diapers, somehow connecting that to how he's being a baby about button placement. Thx.
Steve Jobs is preparing a patent attack. Apparently it is impossible to create a GUI without violating their patents.
Oops, too late.
What?
Except he already ran in 2000. Joke fail.
Sorry, I'm just an ex-Ubuntu fanboi. 10.04 changes, again, Ubuntu's focus on the desktop. I need more stability than whiz-bang features that aren't-so-mature-yet. I use Ubuntu for LTSP networks for many people, and cleaning up all of this "Ubuntu One / Social Networking / ever-changing-logout-shutdown dialog / notification panel / network-damager / blah blah blah" type of newly pushed feature stuff each and every release is tiring. I 3 Debian stable+backports for mission-critical LTSP desktops! They don't change but the upstream code. They don't try to re-brand and cuztomize every aspect. Don't get me wrong, I still think Ubuntu is great for a single-user desktop. Just not servers of any kind. It just seems to me that the more a distro changes from upstream (in most cases), the more has the potential to break. I applaud the Ubuntu community (which I am still a part of) for pushing for such change and making it such an attractive alternative to Windows, but to me, personally, I think Debian is probably my best fit.
It is pitch black. You are likely to be eaten by a grue.
Playing with it in Debian, I find gnome-shell to have extremely poor performance. The dependencies (mesa) suggest to me that it may require compositing. What about the computers that aren't capable of compositing?
I'm waiting for Yiffy Yaffle.
It's going to come with an awesome background, have Second Life preinstalled, and a desktop applet to watch the latest submissions to Fur Affinity.
Ever since ubuntu became usable without command line hacking (somewhere in 2007 by my account), they started fucking up other parts. They started adding in new flashy shit that no-one really needs, and forgetting about actually getting a STABLE distro out there. In 9.10 everything pretty much works on my desktop (wish i could say the same for my laptops, which fuck up on every release), except for the piece of misconfigured shit that is pulseaudio. If i try to play certain DVDs in vlc, all sound will play, except for the fricking voice tracks.. it takes endless fucking about to get this to work. And every single release the last few years has had these type of issues on nearly all of my systems. nearly everything works, but they never forget to royally screw at least one thing up, preventing themselves from becoming a true user friendly distro.
10.04 will NOT make it onto my main systems for day to day use, if i ever find the need to upgrade from my current ubuntu settups, then fedora is first on my list.
People, what a bunch of bastards
No, thanks, I'd rather wait for 11.04.
But there aren't those underwater invertebrates... :-/
What happens after Zealous Zebra ?
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11.04 will be called Nocturnal Neckbeard.
How is it that every single thing that happens at Ubuntu becomes a story on /. ? A new name is prime for a press release or an announcement on their site. It is a waste of bandwidth on /. . Some of the stuff that gets posted here goes beyond minutia and straight to trivial.
The Slashdot Trolls all agree; Ubuntu is the worst OS ever made, and only caters to retards!
Which means it actually may be getting close to the year of the Linux Desktop. After all, it's actually becoming usable by "morons", a.k.a. people that have a life.
I just wish they'd spend less time with eye candy, and more time making it stable. It seems every release of Ubuntu becomes less and less usable than the last. My parents computers started crashing randomly, my wife's laptop crashed and took the filesystem with it, etc. Sure debian's older, but at least I can put a computer on it and expect it not to lock hard.
My parents and wife are on debian now, and I continue to play around with different distributions for posterity, but often find myself running back to debian or gentoo.
Adobe is going to sue Apple for not using Flash and Apple will, in turn, sue Adobe for filing suit. Both will subsequently be sued by the RIAA and MPAA, after which they'll attempt to amend the new Health Care bill in order to force the purchase of cassette tapes and refurbished BETA machines on the American people. After the impending collapse Joe Biden will boycott all Arizona laws (for good measure) then patriotically bail out all oil companies that geographically reside near the American coast-line, and do not have proper protections in place in case of rig explosions. This all will be a big F#$%ING DEAL, unless Wall Street stands to make any money, in which case the current administration will be forced to threaten Iran with sanctions unless they un-train their Uranium filled, ICBM's from American bases within the next 5 years, or face the ominous consequence of being threatened with sanctions again.
I'm submitting Oily Ox for the next iteration.
Most notably in my case, was the use of an external monitor at a different resolution than my netbook.
That was horribly broken in 9.04.
As for uptime, I've only had mine running a couple days on and old Eee 701 (albeit with 2G memory), but it's been solid, so far.
Check out the adult only version "Mischievous Mink".
Obstreperous Orgasm?
I wasn't trying to be anonymous. Dammit, stupid Thunderbird RSS feeds!
Ubuntu is the new Mandrake. Like Mandrake, it will eventually lose favor with the deniers who believe that Linux can be a viable desktop for the masses, and some other Distro with the exact same deficiencies (e.g. Linux being under the hood) that Ubuntu has and Mandrake had will take it's place. Wash, rise, repeat and all the while, Microsoft and Apple will continue to duke it out over the 98.5% of desktops that don't run Linux.
I don't always use unix-like operating systems; but when I do, I prefer FreeBSD.
It's important to say to the impatient among us that the first alpha release is not due earlier than the end of June,
Actually, the release schedule page has the first alpha release on June 3. The second alpha is end of June (actually July 1st.)
...to me "overrated".
Go ahead an waste you mod points bitches. I've got Karma to burn.
Obese Owl?
It makes sense
I have been using another distro on my main machine for a little while, Archlinux, but I had a look at 10.4 on my testing machine and it has a slick look about it, and so far, on an evening's writing work, does the basic stuff.
I'll give it a proper hammering over the next week
...it's been re-named to Masturbating Monkey.
...I submitted Masturbating Monkey.
Winner winner chicken dinner!
A loop, by its nature, continues. If that didn't make sense, start reading this sentence again.
...will it be “slow” and outdated, with a high risk of dying before the next release, and then in a quick move be replaced by the unstable and weird “Pathogenic Palin“? ;)
Any sufficiently advanced intelligence is indistinguishable from stupidity.
Ok, KDE 4.0 was a mess, but it's fixed now and seems far better than the ever-more-dumbed-down Gnome. They do have a KDE version of ubuntu, but it seems like very much less important. Anyone new searching for ubuntu will get the gnome version.
I think it's about time for distros to switch back to KDE again. It's a better foundation to move forward with. Gnome is like stepping back into the 90's.
What, no narwhal? Everyone loves narwhals.
The negative associations to anything "maverick" are so overwhelming that I have to question the business sense of who has opted for it. Yes, please give me anything else, including Menstruating Mongoose.
As a serious amateur photographer I need to use a platform that supports color management. Thus, as much as I like Ubuntu I still have to shell out money for commercial platforms. I am okay with rebooting a box once in a while. I am okay with beta or alpha software that I can possibly tweak myself. However, I am definitely not keen on guessing on color tones! Will somebody start working on it, please...?
I'm waiting for Naughty Nautilus myself.
There goes a Narwhal!
He's old and getting forgetful, he was bound to accidentally put the same thing on the list twice. Hopefully only twice.
"There are no facts, only interpretations." --Friedrich Nietzsche.
These aren't the invertebrates you are seeking. Nothing to see here. Move along.
And Kubuntu will be Naughty Konqueror? Nah.
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Already used up half the (latin) alphabet.
What are they going to do after Zany Zebra?
That would be Dashing Dolphin. Get with the programme :)
Hint: if you read something that doesn't many any sense to you, like "Only if she's 5'3", but it might be a joke, do not mod it as "offtopic". Just leave it alone for those us who get pop culture references to evaluate. (That's a "Baby Got Back" reference for you kids who weren't listening to pop radio in 1992)
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[citation needed]
I was hoping for Masturbating Mudkip tbh
Ha ha, only if she's 5'3"!
"simples"
IBM is pretty much now a CHinese/Indian Firm. All that needs to move is the execs. Somehow, I doubt that those scum will do so.
If it's a maverick, will it come with a dim but scary sidekick?
Maverick Meerkat? Is that a codeword for the "Sarah Palin" release?
I installed Ubuntu 10 on a VM to play around with, and the first thing I noticed was the obvious effort to make it look like OSX and also Windows 7. It's almost like they took the worst elements of each of them and put them into one OS.
Sorry, but it is what it is.
And I was hoping the last release would have been Lusty Llama...
This is exactly what's wrong with most modern distros.
Why is it so hard to keep apps up-to-date while leaving the core bits of the system stable? I'd run a BSD (Dragonfly most likely, drooling over HAMMER already), but last time I tried, there was (apparently) so little interest in maintaining application packages and such that they were way, waaaaay behind even older versions of Ubuntu. It ended up at about the same as running Debian stable, but with the crappy BSD "init" system and lackluster hardware support.
There are a few options here:
1) Enable the backports repository (and perhaps even -proposed, if you're desperate).
2) Check if the the app devs make a package available for download.
3) Download the source and compile yourself ;)
It's worth noting that there's a simple reason why new versions of apps are not supported on old versions:
Dependencies.
Take a look at pretty much any package for Ubuntu and note how many other packages it depends on. In the Windows world (or indeed Mac world) the vast majority would be included when compiling (instead of linked to). The problem with the inclusion-model (aside from bulky programs) is that you don't get security updates applied centrally. Not that the link-model is perfect -- you noted it's biggest (IMHO) weakness.
Well that's what you get for making the stupid decision to be an early adopter on your primary desktop. What kind of idiot installs a dripping wet software release on the system they depend on every day. You should either install it on a test system first, or in a VM to see if it's going to run smoothly or cause you a head ache. I'll bet you didn't even bother to do a full system backup before hand, and just jumped in with both feet.
Fools rush in where angels ... 'n all that !
Why not Nihilistic Nigger? Or maybe Negative Necrophiliac?
... I facepalmed as soon as I read that (metal plate in wrist brace to forehead OW).
I'm also afraid to click on the first link more than I am the second while I'm sitting at work, for fear of grotesque Mammalian Mammaries.
One of these days, I am going to flip out. When I flip out, I'll be back in five minutes.
It's actually a nice picture IMO, but yeah, that might look a bit odd at work.
Though you really should be more worried about the second one, as that's the front page and all sorts of things can appear there.
I'm currently using Jaunty Jackalope, and have been for around 3-4 days now, after the video card in my aging FreeBSD box finally gave up the ghost. Jaunty sure as hell might not be FreeBSD, but it is surprisingly tolerable; especially after the nightmare I had with Intrepid.
With that said, I've learned that there are a few things you can do, to make Ubuntu bearable.
1. The first single thing I do on any new Ubuntu install (I've used Hardy, Intrepid, and now Jaunty) is the following:-
sudo ed /boot/grub/menu.lst
%s/quiet splash//
wq
This causes the system to display its' bootup messages again, so that if it becomes unbootable, you actually have a prayer of the problem being diagnosed and fixed.
2. Avoid using an nVidia video card. I had one in the system I was using Intrepid with, and it gave me constant problems. This machine has an onboard Intel card, and it has been perfectly fine.
3. If you know how to, rip out Pulse/ALSA and compile OSS 4. Pulse causes audio distortion at even moderate volume, for some inexplicable reason.
4. If you can get gdm to recognise it, use something other than GNOME. I've been meaning to reinstall Ratpoison.