I wouldn't exactly describe all of those apps as 'standing out'...nonetheless this wasn't the issue raised! It was about "performing fine", and they do. But, for an opposite example...say, look how iTunes or Quicktime performs on Windows.
I didn't say they will report you missing immediatelly. I said the moment at which you went missing will be known quite preciselly (as well as numbers called afterwards; and locations of course). Which makes the proposition of killing people for their cellphones highly risky and moronic.
Heh, that could even point to approach of treating current "3D" effect as abnormal; with those able to see it properly simply beeing able to better cope with such abnormality... (the article seems to try to paint it the other way around)
Your're definatelly not alone...and for a quite long time already.
Current proponents forget that we had "3D cinema" available for a few decades now. And "3D photography", stereography, for more than a century (it's not much younger than "normal" photography). Hardly anybody treated it as more than a gimmick over those years.
So you're known to be lost from quite an exact moment...but wait, somebody makes calls from your phone and made them since the approximate time of your dissapearence! All of them to "new" numbers!
You know, suggesting that it will "create a more dangerous situation that feeds money to people doing illegal things" is a bit like broken window fallacy. Mostly people who are already in the "underworld" would want to do it, so it actually adds another burden for them; dealing with it carries an increased risk. And adds nicely provable offense to the mix.
PS. You really live in a place where you can expect escalation from "borrowing" to "killing"?...
You know, mobile phones are used generally to (surpise!) communicate with the people you want to communicate. Meaning that those people must know each others numbers, and use them at least for some time...or "borrow" phones very regularly and with some way of synchronising the effort. In short, not nearly as easy and straightforward as you paint it to be.
Looking at income of the household is a good idea in determining the value of fine. Can be painfull, though not excessive, to a lot more people that way.
What you write is only true if the app is shaped by any primary platform and its toolkits in the first place. But one can use proper multiplatform toolkit and get much more easily something which works rather nice everywhere.
Like Qt, which gives this to Google Earth, VLC, Last.fm player, SMPlayer, TeamSpeak, Stellarium, Scribus, Psi, LyX, VirtualBox, Autodesk Maya,...
"itunes, quicktime and safari are dogs on windows because" Apple made them poorly (probably partly due to insisting on carrying as much of OSX peculiarities as possible), not because it's inherently that much harder to do cross platform.
You just have to do it properly. Witness Google Earth, VLC, Last.fm player, SMPlayer, TeamSpeak, Stellarium, Scribus, Psi, LyX, Autodesk Maya, VirtualBox, Arora. Heck, many of those were not very far from simple recompile to make them crossplatform; and work fine everywhere.
I can think of a few well regarded and widely used apps which perform fine across on all 3 platforms; you might even use some of them regularly, too...
Though with the number of iPhone 3G generation devices, users of which often perceive them as "good enough", I don't expect it being abondoned that soon.
Especially since...well, there's bound to be "iPod Touch nano" or "iPhone nano" at some point. Tech might allow it quite easily in this year - imagine something with a bit smaller (not so comfortable size-wise, lower quality, but still usable) screen, device size on one hand reduced (following more closely screen size), OTOH more "chubby" (to make it less "sexy"), in many colors, with something like cheap Cortex-A5 under the hood and general capabilities comparable to iPhone 3G (if "nano" would show up this year). I don't think it's a matter of "if", just "when".
Though aren't many so called "pro users" not very open to new UIs/etc. if what they have works generally fine? And not really very comfortable with "computers", just with the app package they are using? (though that should change over time...)
So it isn't merely about reproducing general functionality; possible replacememnt would have to be much better.
Yes, this was about what taxes give in return (well, ideally; but that's at most a matter of distortions to be dealt with), a reason. Not a hair splitting, but an important part of the whole picture which you can't ever forget while discussing public funding IMHO. That's what they're for! As a sidenote, society agrees to pay taxes. You agree to pay taxes by choosing to be a part of society which does so. You don't have to be a part of this society if you don't want to be BTW (yes, it would require going through some very serious hoops...but that's the point, society making living where you do rather nice). Don't kid yourself by evocation of "government" as the cause - ultimatelly, all govs (especially in Western world...though that's not so simple, and I'm saying this beeing from an ex Soviet block country) are a reflection of society. From where do you think came people that form "government" or public administration generally?
And please, no personal excursion are called for here. Yes, we both might have a pretty good idea of what we really mean behind certain concepts, of refine this somewhat. But that's irrelevant. Not when those concepts might be used in public discourse. Being inprecise in formulating them (or worse, outright distortions) is one of the contributing factors of harm in society IMHO (whatever it would be like); members of which form a bell curve BTW... Not beeing rigorous with this, one might even eventually fall a victim of such, well, a mild form of newspeak. Or descendants, whatever (for an example: sure, Soviet imposed oligarchy ended two decades ago...but people won't snap out of old (imposed!...doesn't seem to matter) obvious ways of looking at things for a few more). Might be boring (though no writing books required...), might seem useless to you, but is necessary.
BTW, good public education might help greatly here. Having good common ground being one of the requirements.
I simply think you ommitted important parts; what you wrote is factual but not accurate if it's not complete (say, not only mentioning childless person also pays this way for it's well-beeing as a "BTW"...but taking it into account while choosing how to even name the beast; it's what greatly affects perception of people...witness how many don't realise that no, it's not only about "me paying for their education")
As for your personal preferences, are you sure you're proposing homeschooling precisely? What you describe can end up pretty close to "public system...done right" (and easily NOT under "home schooling...done wrong"). However you approach naming this one, it basically boils down to many people appreciating how society works; and for one thing I have my doubts how many "strict homeschoolers" (which would be naturally attracted to agree with you if only because of the label...) really do that.
Brown dwarfs are obsolete as far as causing extinction events goes. We are in the middle of a quite serious and rapid one. All it took to cause it is...us.
ups, I actually wanted to write there "(PS. I'm not not sure how clear it was that I'm NOT disagreeing with you)". Seems it wasn't very clear after all... (maybe in another post somewhere here which wasn't in direct response to you but to someone else who responded to you in this subtree of discussion...)
Why do you think "paying for your child's education" is not fair? For that matter, why do you pass so narrow view as the core issue? One that in reality involves also creating (through better public education) a society which will be much better for your children to live in. However were they educated.
But putting it in context of "paying for someone else's children education" is not a desire for reasonable talks about the issue; it outright passes individual judgment of what the issue is as the topic of "talks". But, for one example, it disregards (rather foolishly and destructivelly for the offspring of proposers...) that funding better public education is a crucial part of having all around pleasant society in the future.
Yeah, it's a bit of 'cheating' the way it is in many places. Though ideally it can work..."sure, we brought you to this world without asking, but in exchange we tried to make it rather fair so you didn't even really question why we did it"
(PS. I'm not not sure how clear it was that I'm disagreeing with you)
Your whole family still benefits greatly from living in a society which strives to educate its members (which is also easier to efficiently do en masse as far as specialised knowledge/equipment/etc. are involved; gives benefit of socialisation; doesn't mean typically one parent being out of workforce)
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I wouldn't exactly describe all of those apps as 'standing out'...nonetheless this wasn't the issue raised! It was about "performing fine", and they do. But, for an opposite example...say, look how iTunes or Quicktime performs on Windows.
Especially the "secret" part.
Whay, not "evil? Plus not much of a secret of we do know or at least strongly suspect it...
Now, only to find cheap substitutes which can be semi-regularly administered and our economies might start to improve...
I didn't say they will report you missing immediatelly. I said the moment at which you went missing will be known quite preciselly (as well as numbers called afterwards; and locations of course). Which makes the proposition of killing people for their cellphones highly risky and moronic.
Heh, that could even point to approach of treating current "3D" effect as abnormal; with those able to see it properly simply beeing able to better cope with such abnormality... (the article seems to try to paint it the other way around)
Your're definatelly not alone...and for a quite long time already.
Current proponents forget that we had "3D cinema" available for a few decades now. And "3D photography", stereography, for more than a century (it's not much younger than "normal" photography). Hardly anybody treated it as more than a gimmick over those years.
So you're known to be lost from quite an exact moment...but wait, somebody makes calls from your phone and made them since the approximate time of your dissapearence! All of them to "new" numbers!
Nah, certainly just coincidence...
You know, suggesting that it will "create a more dangerous situation that feeds money to people doing illegal things" is a bit like broken window fallacy. Mostly people who are already in the "underworld" would want to do it, so it actually adds another burden for them; dealing with it carries an increased risk. And adds nicely provable offense to the mix.
PS. You really live in a place where you can expect escalation from "borrowing" to "killing"?...
You know, mobile phones are used generally to (surpise!) communicate with the people you want to communicate. Meaning that those people must know each others numbers, and use them at least for some time...or "borrow" phones very regularly and with some way of synchronising the effort. In short, not nearly as easy and straightforward as you paint it to be.
Looking at income of the household is a good idea in determining the value of fine. Can be painfull, though not excessive, to a lot more people that way.
Isn't Python out of the question on the iPhone now?...
What you write is only true if the app is shaped by any primary platform and its toolkits in the first place. But one can use proper multiplatform toolkit and get much more easily something which works rather nice everywhere.
Like Qt, which gives this to Google Earth, VLC, Last.fm player, SMPlayer, TeamSpeak, Stellarium, Scribus, Psi, LyX, VirtualBox, Autodesk Maya, ...
"itunes, quicktime and safari are dogs on windows because" Apple made them poorly (probably partly due to insisting on carrying as much of OSX peculiarities as possible), not because it's inherently that much harder to do cross platform.
You just have to do it properly. Witness Google Earth, VLC, Last.fm player, SMPlayer, TeamSpeak, Stellarium, Scribus, Psi, LyX, Autodesk Maya, VirtualBox, Arora. Heck, many of those were not very far from simple recompile to make them crossplatform; and work fine everywhere.
I can think of a few well regarded and widely used apps which perform fine across on all 3 platforms; you might even use some of them regularly, too...
Google Earth, VLC, Last.fm player, SMPlayer, TeamSpeak, Stellarium, Scribus, Psi, LyX, Autodesk Maya, VirtualBox, Mathematica
(most of those accomplish that via Qt)
...and inevitably the phone will be sometimes dropped; in some of those cases the driver won't stop the impulse to look for it...and there you go.
Though with the number of iPhone 3G generation devices, users of which often perceive them as "good enough", I don't expect it being abondoned that soon.
Especially since...well, there's bound to be "iPod Touch nano" or "iPhone nano" at some point. Tech might allow it quite easily in this year - imagine something with a bit smaller (not so comfortable size-wise, lower quality, but still usable) screen, device size on one hand reduced (following more closely screen size), OTOH more "chubby" (to make it less "sexy"), in many colors, with something like cheap Cortex-A5 under the hood and general capabilities comparable to iPhone 3G (if "nano" would show up this year). I don't think it's a matter of "if", just "when".
Though aren't many so called "pro users" not very open to new UIs/etc. if what they have works generally fine? And not really very comfortable with "computers", just with the app package they are using? (though that should change over time...)
So it isn't merely about reproducing general functionality; possible replacememnt would have to be much better.
Yes, this was about what taxes give in return (well, ideally; but that's at most a matter of distortions to be dealt with), a reason. Not a hair splitting, but an important part of the whole picture which you can't ever forget while discussing public funding IMHO. That's what they're for!
As a sidenote, society agrees to pay taxes. You agree to pay taxes by choosing to be a part of society which does so. You don't have to be a part of this society if you don't want to be BTW (yes, it would require going through some very serious hoops...but that's the point, society making living where you do rather nice). Don't kid yourself by evocation of "government" as the cause - ultimatelly, all govs (especially in Western world...though that's not so simple, and I'm saying this beeing from an ex Soviet block country) are a reflection of society. From where do you think came people that form "government" or public administration generally?
And please, no personal excursion are called for here. Yes, we both might have a pretty good idea of what we really mean behind certain concepts, of refine this somewhat. But that's irrelevant. Not when those concepts might be used in public discourse. Being inprecise in formulating them (or worse, outright distortions) is one of the contributing factors of harm in society IMHO (whatever it would be like); members of which form a bell curve BTW...
Not beeing rigorous with this, one might even eventually fall a victim of such, well, a mild form of newspeak. Or descendants, whatever (for an example: sure, Soviet imposed oligarchy ended two decades ago...but people won't snap out of old (imposed!...doesn't seem to matter) obvious ways of looking at things for a few more). Might be boring (though no writing books required...), might seem useless to you, but is necessary.
BTW, good public education might help greatly here. Having good common ground being one of the requirements.
I simply think you ommitted important parts; what you wrote is factual but not accurate if it's not complete (say, not only mentioning childless person also pays this way for it's well-beeing as a "BTW"...but taking it into account while choosing how to even name the beast; it's what greatly affects perception of people...witness how many don't realise that no, it's not only about "me paying for their education")
As for your personal preferences, are you sure you're proposing homeschooling precisely? What you describe can end up pretty close to "public system...done right" (and easily NOT under "home schooling...done wrong"). However you approach naming this one, it basically boils down to many people appreciating how society works; and for one thing I have my doubts how many "strict homeschoolers" (which would be naturally attracted to agree with you if only because of the label...) really do that.
Brown dwarfs are obsolete as far as causing extinction events goes. We are in the middle of a quite serious and rapid one. All it took to cause it is...us.
ups, I actually wanted to write there "(PS. I'm not not sure how clear it was that I'm NOT disagreeing with you)". Seems it wasn't very clear after all... (maybe in another post somewhere here which wasn't in direct response to you but to someone else who responded to you in this subtree of discussion...)
Why do you think "paying for your child's education" is not fair? For that matter, why do you pass so narrow view as the core issue? One that in reality involves also creating (through better public education) a society which will be much better for your children to live in. However were they educated.
But putting it in context of "paying for someone else's children education" is not a desire for reasonable talks about the issue; it outright passes individual judgment of what the issue is as the topic of "talks". But, for one example, it disregards (rather foolishly and destructivelly for the offspring of proposers...) that funding better public education is a crucial part of having all around pleasant society in the future.
Yeah, it's a bit of 'cheating' the way it is in many places. Though ideally it can work..."sure, we brought you to this world without asking, but in exchange we tried to make it rather fair so you didn't even really question why we did it"
(PS. I'm not not sure how clear it was that I'm disagreeing with you)
Your whole family still benefits greatly from living in a society which strives to educate its members (which is also easier to efficiently do en masse as far as specialised knowledge/equipment/etc. are involved; gives benefit of socialisation; doesn't mean typically one parent being out of workforce)