Most of them barely understand how a computer works to begin with....so they might be people for which it doesn't really matter which OS runs underneath. They do all their work in "creative suite" anyway.
Hm, Adobre could even provide them at some point with turnkey systems...
I guess that's not thanks to Opera Mobile, but Opera Mini (the graph doesn't really distinguish them, but Opera Software really boasts on their blog the inroads Mini has made; Mobile...not so much) - it has become quite popular lately in places like most of Asia, Africa, Latin America, or ex Soviet Block countries; places where it's often the only practical way to access the web, or where so called "feature phones" are typically the most one can hope for.
But I would say it shares its good fortune with Webkit; indeed, they rule handset market hand-in-hand. Look at those stats you linked to; Opera has 28%, while Webkit 25% from iPhone & Android plus some part of large "Nokia" category (Symbian has Webkit, S40 too for a year or so).
...and once they can't help but use their yachts, also in open seas, they will inevitably start falling prey to storms, cyclones, etc.? (commonness of which will be increased greatly due to warming, in which building the fleet of yachts also had its part?)
You really can't forget about Symbian (50% of smartphone market) and Nokia S40 (definatelly large part of "feature phones", since Symbian is only a very small part of what Nokia sells, and they have 40% of global mobile phone market)
Both of which of course strongly support your point - Symbian shipping with Webkit for many years now, S40 too for a year or so.
Though what mobile Safari does might be called substandard, it seems; it not only limits greatly the max number of "tabs" available (which is understandable given the device), it's actually pretty quick to throw out the data of background webpages, necessitating reload (this one I don't expect the Mini to do)
Though OTOH, when talking about "little ARM chip and a battery", there already is Flash player for that architecture which works surprisingly fine. Apple doesn't want to allow it.
Well, at least most of the UK is in the Western hemisphere. That place I'm sure of (about getting iPhone without contract), I wouldn't be surprised if there are more.
...so they had to presumably rewrite the application for Apple
Hm, that's an interesting point. Because I think...they didn't have a chance to do that. AFAIK they were building Opera Mini on some kind of wrapper that allowed j2me app to run mostly unchanged, but that's forbidden for a very short time now, and I don't expect Opera was informed in advance.
Or maybe new rules apply to next release of iPhone OS only...
Uhm...what's stopping you from using mail app or Safari for few pages that indeed don't work very well on Opera Mini? But for all the rest, it is much faster and, yes, pleasant. Not only because of "lack" (it does support some) of js, also via reformatting of webpages and highly compressed binary format of transmission.
And anyways, there is something better than carrying some...print-outs, like you initially suggested, when wanting to simply choose from what is currently available at the shelves.
Mobile phones. I made one shopping of parts for a new machine like that. Opera Mini on any "feature phone" supporting j2me is more than good enough.
The problem with buying computer hardware in a local shop is that they likely do not carry the model you picked out when you browsed the HCL.
Well, where I live it works a bit differently - if local shops don't have something, and I want it, they will have it the next day once the daily courier from cooperating distributors arrives (yes, making sure what's available is the revision I want also doesn't seem to be that much of a problem)
I take it you'll be checking it out not only when at home, but also on Touch (and hence certainly WiFi)? In that case, I have to point out that it really shines primarilly when network connection is so-so.
Opera Mini can't really offer adblocker; many webapges would simply block Opera proxy servers, I guess (heck, even though full Opera browser does have one, it's not very, well, advertised (;p) or obvious)
But what Opera Mini does helps greatly anyway as far as "faster, more pleasant browsing" goes; that's one of its selling points.
I take you also don't trust iPhone version of Safari or...pretty much most operating systems and browsers out there? (if not all - can you trust the binary you got? The compiler? ISP? Clerks at the bank or in public office?)
"Incredibly insecure" is a gross overstatement. Whole traffic between it and Opera servers is encrypted. Only at the point of the proxy there's hypothetical weak point - but really, I'd trust Opera Software. Braking that trust would cost them dearly, they've shown over the years they can be trusted, they come from a place with a somehow better corporate culture...
Or you can simply not use Opera Mini on the few webpages where the above might matter.
Opera Mini doesn't really do one of big no-no things on Appstore, "having interpreter to run external code", etc.; it's a custom protocol client to connect with the full browser engine running on Opera servers (yes, O Mini can act on few js events, but apparently it was insignificant enough)
Plus maybe Apple came to agree it's quite distinct in what it does from Safari - not as full featured (though it does give iPhone a tabbed browser now), but with its own strong points (largely conserving bandwith; BTW, makes iPhone somehow more attractive in places where you can get it without contract and use with cheap prepaid SIM; or when network is congested)
If you prefer to put it another way, Apple simply tries to appear "not evil" after recent announcement...
Is there something better than going to a public library and printing out the hardware compatibility list to carry into a store?
Uhm, of course there is, for some time now. You find online what is not only supported, but also rather nice for the price. You might then buy online, for cheapest price...or, if you really want to, go to local shop. The deal still has a strong chance to be better than if you would ask the clerk or choose by looking at specs in a store.
Well, to be fair that's not exactly a bad thing; it allows me to find, for example, fabulous & never used Agfa pro scanners ("unfortunatelly" not supported on latest Win...) cheaper than typical lowest-end POS scanners people get now for their Windows 7 machines.
The video decoding on modern PC GPUs is a special-purpose part of the GPU, not an implementation of decoding using OpenCL or CUDA.
Are you sure about that? After all, hardly anything has "hardware" TnL nowadays, even though everything supports it - the old calls go through a purpose-made shader program which emulates old style TnL. Similarly with video postprocessing on many current GPUs, running on shaders...so why not video decoding?
Mentioning Opera would be at the least very tactful in the context of this discussion. They kickstarted current HTML video tag effort, they are pushing since the beginning an open format http://my.opera.com/haavard/blog/2007/03/05/1
BTW, Opera did have MDI since its first version in 1994, that's not so far from tabbed UI (heck, current "tabbed one" in Opera is still quite disctinct from other browsers - still MDI, just with always visible (not only in menu, which is still there) buttons for each document). Still might count that Opera pushed it / I'm sure one could find quite a few other things...
That's why I used "seems" there; wondering about possibly unsettling (if they would be quite directly brought over) differences in perception. What's wrong with that?
Besides, how are you so certain? You can't just from touching your face or face of somebody who deeply trusts you (which would be the case, you don't have any "excuse" to do that to somebody who isn't quite close) - you not only know that you can go very far in this case, you also have preconcieved concept of how a face looks like.
BTW, beauty is not "just what we know or have heard of". It's an adaptation.
It really seems creepy if the blind perceive faces that way.
Or...that example might be simply a case of practical approach; recognizing that the msin reason faces are detailed in "normal" naked photos is...because leaving it that way is the easiest thing to do;p (while here there's some sculping involved)
No, they are suffering from much bigger problem. Not only they don't fit graphically (btw, why does OSX has two styles, Metal and Aqua? With no clear rules of why one is used over the other in few Apple apps), they don't perform acceptably at all. In contrast, Qt apps work fine everywhere; yeah, some little tweaking of GUI may be called for here and there...that's not nearly so serious problem as with iTunes or Quicktime for Win - they're simply done poorly. But it can be done correctly.
And anyways, in case of iPhone there's already a mechanism that can deal with any poorly made apps - AppStore acceptance process.
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Most of them barely understand how a computer works to begin with. ...so they might be people for which it doesn't really matter which OS runs underneath. They do all their work in "creative suite" anyway.
Hm, Adobre could even provide them at some point with turnkey systems...
I guess that's not thanks to Opera Mobile, but Opera Mini (the graph doesn't really distinguish them, but Opera Software really boasts on their blog the inroads Mini has made; Mobile...not so much) - it has become quite popular lately in places like most of Asia, Africa, Latin America, or ex Soviet Block countries; places where it's often the only practical way to access the web, or where so called "feature phones" are typically the most one can hope for.
But I would say it shares its good fortune with Webkit; indeed, they rule handset market hand-in-hand. Look at those stats you linked to; Opera has 28%, while Webkit 25% from iPhone & Android plus some part of large "Nokia" category (Symbian has Webkit, S40 too for a year or so).
...and once they can't help but use their yachts, also in open seas, they will inevitably start falling prey to storms, cyclones, etc.? (commonness of which will be increased greatly due to warming, in which building the fleet of yachts also had its part?)
You really can't forget about Symbian (50% of smartphone market) and Nokia S40 (definatelly large part of "feature phones", since Symbian is only a very small part of what Nokia sells, and they have 40% of global mobile phone market)
Both of which of course strongly support your point - Symbian shipping with Webkit for many years now, S40 too for a year or so.
Though what mobile Safari does might be called substandard, it seems; it not only limits greatly the max number of "tabs" available (which is understandable given the device), it's actually pretty quick to throw out the data of background webpages, necessitating reload (this one I don't expect the Mini to do)
Though OTOH, when talking about "little ARM chip and a battery", there already is Flash player for that architecture which works surprisingly fine. Apple doesn't want to allow it.
Well, at least most of the UK is in the Western hemisphere. That place I'm sure of (about getting iPhone without contract), I wouldn't be surprised if there are more.
...so they had to presumably rewrite the application for Apple
Hm, that's an interesting point. Because I think...they didn't have a chance to do that. AFAIK they were building Opera Mini on some kind of wrapper that allowed j2me app to run mostly unchanged, but that's forbidden for a very short time now, and I don't expect Opera was informed in advance.
Or maybe new rules apply to next release of iPhone OS only...
Uhm...what's stopping you from using mail app or Safari for few pages that indeed don't work very well on Opera Mini? But for all the rest, it is much faster and, yes, pleasant. Not only because of "lack" (it does support some) of js, also via reformatting of webpages and highly compressed binary format of transmission.
And anyways, there is something better than carrying some...print-outs, like you initially suggested, when wanting to simply choose from what is currently available at the shelves.
Mobile phones. I made one shopping of parts for a new machine like that. Opera Mini on any "feature phone" supporting j2me is more than good enough.
The problem with buying computer hardware in a local shop is that they likely do not carry the model you picked out when you browsed the HCL.
Well, where I live it works a bit differently - if local shops don't have something, and I want it, they will have it the next day once the daily courier from cooperating distributors arrives (yes, making sure what's available is the revision I want also doesn't seem to be that much of a problem)
I take it you'll be checking it out not only when at home, but also on Touch (and hence certainly WiFi)? In that case, I have to point out that it really shines primarilly when network connection is so-so.
Opera Mini can't really offer adblocker; many webapges would simply block Opera proxy servers, I guess (heck, even though full Opera browser does have one, it's not very, well, advertised (;p) or obvious)
But what Opera Mini does helps greatly anyway as far as "faster, more pleasant browsing" goes; that's one of its selling points.
I take you also don't trust iPhone version of Safari or...pretty much most operating systems and browsers out there? (if not all - can you trust the binary you got? The compiler? ISP? Clerks at the bank or in public office?)
Where does the line go between my phone and Opera's servers that do all the processing? /:
It goes through encrypted connection. Encrypted for all pages, at all times.
"Incredibly insecure" is a gross overstatement. Whole traffic between it and Opera servers is encrypted. Only at the point of the proxy there's hypothetical weak point - but really, I'd trust Opera Software. Braking that trust would cost them dearly, they've shown over the years they can be trusted, they come from a place with a somehow better corporate culture...
Or you can simply not use Opera Mini on the few webpages where the above might matter.
Opera Mini doesn't really do one of big no-no things on Appstore, "having interpreter to run external code", etc.; it's a custom protocol client to connect with the full browser engine running on Opera servers (yes, O Mini can act on few js events, but apparently it was insignificant enough)
Plus maybe Apple came to agree it's quite distinct in what it does from Safari - not as full featured (though it does give iPhone a tabbed browser now), but with its own strong points (largely conserving bandwith; BTW, makes iPhone somehow more attractive in places where you can get it without contract and use with cheap prepaid SIM; or when network is congested)
If you prefer to put it another way, Apple simply tries to appear "not evil" after recent announcement...
Is there something better than going to a public library and printing out the hardware compatibility list to carry into a store?
Uhm, of course there is, for some time now. You find online what is not only supported, but also rather nice for the price. You might then buy online, for cheapest price...or, if you really want to, go to local shop. The deal still has a strong chance to be better than if you would ask the clerk or choose by looking at specs in a store.
Well, to be fair that's not exactly a bad thing; it allows me to find, for example, fabulous & never used Agfa pro scanners ("unfortunatelly" not supported on latest Win...) cheaper than typical lowest-end POS scanners people get now for their Windows 7 machines.
The video decoding on modern PC GPUs is a special-purpose part of the GPU, not an implementation of decoding using OpenCL or CUDA.
Are you sure about that? After all, hardly anything has "hardware" TnL nowadays, even though everything supports it - the old calls go through a purpose-made shader program which emulates old style TnL. Similarly with video postprocessing on many current GPUs, running on shaders...so why not video decoding?
Mentioning Opera would be at the least very tactful in the context of this discussion. They kickstarted current HTML video tag effort, they are pushing since the beginning an open format
http://my.opera.com/haavard/blog/2007/03/05/1
BTW, Opera did have MDI since its first version in 1994, that's not so far from tabbed UI (heck, current "tabbed one" in Opera is still quite disctinct from other browsers - still MDI, just with always visible (not only in menu, which is still there) buttons for each document). Still might count that Opera pushed it / I'm sure one could find quite a few other things...
That's why I used "seems" there; wondering about possibly unsettling (if they would be quite directly brought over) differences in perception. What's wrong with that?
Besides, how are you so certain? You can't just from touching your face or face of somebody who deeply trusts you (which would be the case, you don't have any "excuse" to do that to somebody who isn't quite close) - you not only know that you can go very far in this case, you also have preconcieved concept of how a face looks like.
BTW, beauty is not "just what we know or have heard of". It's an adaptation.
It really seems creepy if the blind perceive faces that way.
Or...that example might be simply a case of practical approach; recognizing that the msin reason faces are detailed in "normal" naked photos is...because leaving it that way is the easiest thing to do ;p (while here there's some sculping involved)
No, they are suffering from much bigger problem. Not only they don't fit graphically (btw, why does OSX has two styles, Metal and Aqua? With no clear rules of why one is used over the other in few Apple apps), they don't perform acceptably at all.
In contrast, Qt apps work fine everywhere; yeah, some little tweaking of GUI may be called for here and there...that's not nearly so serious problem as with iTunes or Quicktime for Win - they're simply done poorly. But it can be done correctly.
And anyways, in case of iPhone there's already a mechanism that can deal with any poorly made apps - AppStore acceptance process.
If only they made some of those robots similar to Serge Graystone; or perhaps, more appropriately, to few targetbots we've seen in the pilot.