I'm from the beginning of the 80s...and not only that, I'm from a country that was under Soviet influence. Meaning "radio, telephone and TV" for a few decades; few generations knew nothing else. Till the first half of 90s I knew nothing else.
And yet, when reading TFS, I have a strong impression its description of people born in the 90s and 00s fits nicely to me. I guess in large part because I fully realize "our times were better" is only BS meant to make oneself feel better about youth that has passed or is passing away. And it causes harm by unreasonably valuing the past above present, which is almost universally better. You only have to embrace it (well, I do pick what I want; but the time of introduction doesn't play big role)
...and order of magnitude less power usage for the same performance. Meaning less problems with heat, smaller battery, much smaller phone with comparable performance.
There is no benefit of x86 on smartphones that could drag Intel into this market, quite the contrary; ARM is established, and working very fine.
The add-ons (their functionality specifically) that you mention are in no way exclusive to FF. You just think they are. Similarly with tabs - it was not only Konqueror that had them, in the times before FF even existed
As for bloat - I imagine suggesting much lighter alternatives won't go down well, so try this: run Seamonkey instead of FF for some time. It's almost hilarious that Seamonkey is for long time faster, specifically in "snappy" area, able to survive much heavier browsing and more stable generally.
But that simply shifts the issue towards "what makes an API native and somewhat full featured", still requires choosing a bit arbitrary point; suiting your overall impressions regarding "what is a smartphone"?;p
Did you ever work with late SE j2me implementations? They give quite a lot of control to the dev...
You make it sound like such people aren't the last to use free software OS or tools (never mind that they would be probably still much better served after shelling out $70 for consumer version of Sony Vegas...). Besides, the plethora of free NLEs available rarely have on their webpage "remember, we suck in this, this, and this, we are adequate mostly for simple yt stuff"; often make it sound like their baby is better than it is in reality - which goes around and bites them in the ass IMHO. Amateur / indy filmmakers are the first to try something free but supposedly powerful and polished.
BTW, get on with the times. Full version of Sony Vegas which will most likely give an amateur / indy filmmaker anything one might want costs half of what you claim, in regular sale (and it's not just "video editor"). It has a nice property of being a very optimized piece of software too, so it might end up cheaper (considering that you need far lesser machine, to work comfortably).
I take it you've never heard about central heating? (in this vein: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cogeneration ). Or potential energy associated with pumping anything at great heights?
And your taxes subsidize car companies (they don't pay for road infrastructure). Also aircraft manufacturers and airlines (airports can't survive without subsidies, most airlines were bankrupt and bailed out at one point or another)
It will be much easier to make a device more rugged (also mobile phones looking otherwise quite stylish; check Nokia 3720 classic) if it doesn't need to have any plugs.
Nice to see you totally ignored Jazelle (hardware execution of most of j2me) and Android/WebOS (smartphone OSes which until recently were running only interpreted code in software VM)
Are you seriously not seeing how blurry it is or are you trying to make some platforms look better? Heck, saying that apps which don't have complete control of the hardware are not really native is similarly valid criterion. Or if they depend on common library or ObjC runtime.
I said only "Not without destructive influence of the West, too.", it doesn't imply exclusive influence at all. But it was in the response to a post almost boasting "West = civilization"
Unfortunately very few societies are mature enough to flourish in high population density. In most places throughout the world the end result, after few decades, is more or less slums/ghetto.
I also accept they haven't passed 50%. The issue is - how can we determine when will that happen?
"Installing native third party applications" isn't as clear as you might think. iPhone OS sandboxes them. Android or WebOS were, until recently, limited to running apps under VM of one sort or another, and yet still were considered undoubtedly smartphones. OTOH j2me apps on many "feature phones" run on Jazelle (and you can install your own, that's the whole point...)
How about dismay of those who don't want gimmicks? Those who want primarily...a car. With resources going into its reliability, low fuel consumption and safety?
Yes, "one doesn't exclude the other". But effort described in TFS as at best misplaced in case of cars. There is no place for doing anything else for driver than paying attention on the road, perhaps with some background music or telephone via hands-free and voice control - and that's almost covered, not by car manufacturers. If passengers want something more - it doesn't have to built into the car.
I guess some people don't like to face the fact that their darling manufacturers hardly register on a world scale.
BTW, the ambiguity of "smartphone" term makes your estimate quite blurry. If we want to talk about solid numbers, we need to have solid definition about what we're talking about (why iPhone is a smartphone while Nokia S40 isn't? Or, especially, SE "feature phones" - those even have multitasking fuller than iPhone/S40 one)
Key word: "abstract". With all the ratios in physical descriptions of reality we won't know to their exact value, it's also clear it doesn't map quite so neatly.
I'm from the beginning of the 80s...and not only that, I'm from a country that was under Soviet influence. Meaning "radio, telephone and TV" for a few decades; few generations knew nothing else. Till the first half of 90s I knew nothing else.
And yet, when reading TFS, I have a strong impression its description of people born in the 90s and 00s fits nicely to me. I guess in large part because I fully realize "our times were better" is only BS meant to make oneself feel better about youth that has passed or is passing away. And it causes harm by unreasonably valuing the past above present, which is almost universally better. You only have to embrace it (well, I do pick what I want; but the time of introduction doesn't play big role)
...and order of magnitude less power usage for the same performance. Meaning less problems with heat, smaller battery, much smaller phone with comparable performance.
There is no benefit of x86 on smartphones that could drag Intel into this market, quite the contrary; ARM is established, and working very fine.
I get an impression that too much weight is given to synthetic benchmarks when determining "speed" of browser. Specifically, js-only benchmarks.
Where's overall speed of browsing, snappiness of UI, especially after a long session with many tabs open?
The add-ons (their functionality specifically) that you mention are in no way exclusive to FF. You just think they are. Similarly with tabs - it was not only Konqueror that had them, in the times before FF even existed
As for bloat - I imagine suggesting much lighter alternatives won't go down well, so try this: run Seamonkey instead of FF for some time. It's almost hilarious that Seamonkey is for long time faster, specifically in "snappy" area, able to survive much heavier browsing and more stable generally.
But that simply shifts the issue towards "what makes an API native and somewhat full featured", still requires choosing a bit arbitrary point; suiting your overall impressions regarding "what is a smartphone"? ;p
Did you ever work with late SE j2me implementations? They give quite a lot of control to the dev...
You make it sound like such people aren't the last to use free software OS or tools (never mind that they would be probably still much better served after shelling out $70 for consumer version of Sony Vegas...). Besides, the plethora of free NLEs available rarely have on their webpage "remember, we suck in this, this, and this, we are adequate mostly for simple yt stuff"; often make it sound like their baby is better than it is in reality - which goes around and bites them in the ass IMHO. Amateur / indy filmmakers are the first to try something free but supposedly powerful and polished.
BTW, get on with the times. Full version of Sony Vegas which will most likely give an amateur / indy filmmaker anything one might want costs half of what you claim, in regular sale (and it's not just "video editor"). It has a nice property of being a very optimized piece of software too, so it might end up cheaper (considering that you need far lesser machine, to work comfortably).
They are called vibrators.
Strangely, widely accepted by one of the sexes, this which is usually thought to be more demanding (on many levels) of partners.
As usual, it's only adequate for home or Youtube videos/etc.
And its relatively easy to set your goals so that in a year there will be a version fulfilling them, warranting "1.0"
I take it you've never heard about central heating? (in this vein: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cogeneration ). Or potential energy associated with pumping anything at great heights?
And your taxes subsidize car companies (they don't pay for road infrastructure). Also aircraft manufacturers and airlines (airports can't survive without subsidies, most airlines were bankrupt and bailed out at one point or another)
It will be much easier to make a device more rugged (also mobile phones looking otherwise quite stylish; check Nokia 3720 classic) if it doesn't need to have any plugs.
This for power, Bluetooth/etc. for connectivity.
It's still safe to say less than 3% probably. iPhone has 14% of what is called "smartphones", and those phones in turn constitute 15-20% of total.
Nice to see you totally ignored Jazelle (hardware execution of most of j2me) and Android/WebOS (smartphone OSes which until recently were running only interpreted code in software VM)
Are you seriously not seeing how blurry it is or are you trying to make some platforms look better? Heck, saying that apps which don't have complete control of the hardware are not really native is similarly valid criterion. Or if they depend on common library or ObjC runtime.
I said only "Not without destructive influence of the West, too.", it doesn't imply exclusive influence at all. But it was in the response to a post almost boasting "West = civilization"
Public transport works and enjoys widespread acceptance only in the richest countries of the world.
You must understand that your phobia from it, "it's only for poor people", stems from you living in a very atypical place.
Unfortunately very few societies are mature enough to flourish in high population density. In most places throughout the world the end result, after few decades, is more or less slums/ghetto.
I also accept they haven't passed 50%. The issue is - how can we determine when will that happen?
"Installing native third party applications" isn't as clear as you might think. iPhone OS sandboxes them. Android or WebOS were, until recently, limited to running apps under VM of one sort or another, and yet still were considered undoubtedly smartphones. OTOH j2me apps on many "feature phones" run on Jazelle (and you can install your own, that's the whole point...)
Well, then it still falls under "external influence" a bit, no?
How about dismay of those who don't want gimmicks? Those who want primarily...a car. With resources going into its reliability, low fuel consumption and safety?
Yes, "one doesn't exclude the other". But effort described in TFS as at best misplaced in case of cars. There is no place for doing anything else for driver than paying attention on the road, perhaps with some background music or telephone via hands-free and voice control - and that's almost covered, not by car manufacturers. If passengers want something more - it doesn't have to built into the car.
There's a difference between "doesn't need any customer service" and what I've said. Shovels definitely hardly need one.
I guess some people don't like to face the fact that their darling manufacturers hardly register on a world scale.
BTW, the ambiguity of "smartphone" term makes your estimate quite blurry. If we want to talk about solid numbers, we need to have solid definition about what we're talking about (why iPhone is a smartphone while Nokia S40 isn't? Or, especially, SE "feature phones" - those even have multitasking fuller than iPhone/S40 one)
What makes you think only Windows gets left out? Do you really think multiplatform engines end up exploiting the strengths of consoles optimally?
Those are hybrids. Not great at anything.
Key word: "abstract". With all the ratios in physical descriptions of reality we won't know to their exact value, it's also clear it doesn't map quite so neatly.
Parent didn't say "random"/"non-random". Also, our Universe isn't really. And how many examples of other universe do you have?
BTW, if anything, non-randomness (following rules generally) might imply just as well non-existence of gods. They aren't needed in such universe.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anthropic_principle
Especially the variant "we observe our Universe as it is because beings like wouldn't exist in a different one"