I believe there are plenty (millions if not billions) of standard web pages. Look so much like each other that from a design layout perspective, normally you can make many of them from the same template. But, this is probably because certain designs work very well for certain applications, and many people look at a page the same way they do a newspaper or a book. Which of course means designing as if the person were looking at a newspaper or a book makes it easier for the reader (the one you did all this for) to follow your site!
Well, I finally found a use for psychoactive drugs. OMG. What were they thinking when they made that site? And more importantly, why is it still up? Ack!
Some solutions, not tested and not reviewed, but simply googled. I have used other solutions for clients in the past. They have worked well on an IBM systems that was networked. The data wound up on a postgresql database that was then linked through a client application and a web server for different kinds of reporting and control.
These are just a few of the listings off of Google on a search:
Remember though that POS is one of the most important aspects of any retail or store front type business. So, be wary of what you choose. Choosing a POS system is more about the relationship you are building with your system provider and maintainers than the actual system itself. Some systems require less of a relationship, but I have never run across a situation where that relationship was not present and integral to the long term use of the system. That relationship could be with the OSS developers and users or a company. I wish you luck on your choice. And, please post back to here as to what you chose, why and then your experiences. I prefer the OSS way in most cases as I can make modifications where I (my client) need them. But some applications I farm out to a company as the requirements are outside of my experience.
I doubt they needed *those specific seeds* for a full replanting.
Do you know of a method for extracting only one type of seed from the harvest? DO you know how the farmer is supposed to know by looking at the harvested corn which corn seeds are contaminated by Monsanto? You probably don't and neither do the farmers. I live in a city that is still heavy in agriculture. I work with many farmers, and though I work with computers for them, they give me an earful about what is happening. Monsanto has sued farmers whose crops have been contaminated by Monsanto seeds. Some of the farmers around here have had to get out of those markets, as they can not afford the risk or insurance of defending against a potential Monsanto attack. It has also ruined some fields that were growing *natural* crops, as the cross pollination corrupted the seeds of the natural crops.
So, all things aside, there is plenty of fiscal damage going on to many others, but not Monsanto. They are not being held liable for the damages they have caused.
From their own description of the OS...Ubuntu and Debian are closely related. Ubuntu builds on the foundations of Debian architecture and infrastructure, with a different community and release process.... Debian is "the rock upon which Ubuntu is built".
Ubuntu is a derivative of Debian. A very good one.
Vapor.. yep, it is just vapor for now. They have kicked it around for years. Now, rumor has it they are building an OS that is modular and could do just this. The point I am referring to is the modular OS. It is hard to nickel and dime people with anything monolithic. You want people to get a cheap base whatever and then a la carte themselves to death. But, for that to work, there has to be a compelling reason. Linux has given it to them. Not as a competitor, but in its design. Modular is what many (if not most) admins want. Why do I like Linux? So I can poke around in its guts? At home, on my dime, sure, its fun. At work that is not what I get payed for. At work, it is modular, I can drop stuff that is not needed (like a GUI). I can change the way it is built to make it better for the task it is to be used for. MS as of yet does not do that. It is probable that it could, and it might be doing just that with the next version of windows. But, you are right, it is vapor for now, and given MS's past of marketing vapor, I take what they say with a huge grain of salt.
Maybe they are just trying to get people to buy Vista instead of adopt something else. Not unheard of with them. In this case though, I have even more reason to not buy Vista now. Something better might be around the corner. Vista is a net negative move for us. I might use it at home for a gaming system if I really *need* to, but I doubt it. At work, I see no reason to use it at all. It costs more money, requires more hardware, and provides a completely new set of issues to learn to manage. I'll pass on that. So, if this is another vaporware product from MS, they are just convincing me to stay away. Given that the new product sounds so much better and closer than the current OS de jour, I hope their marketing beanies understand the net negative this would have on their newest OS. Even if they discontinue support for XP, it will not impact us, as we have not using their support for XP, except certain patches being downloaded. They could end that and things will continue as they are anyway.
Now, that is where I think the real reason for going to an annual lease is. If you are leasing software that they end support for, you do not just keep on going. You have to upgrade. Hmm.. Things are getting clearer now. We would all be paying an annual fee anyway. So that not enough new sales problem just goes away. They provide support for the products people pay for. End of product life? Not needed to bring in more revenue now. Product upgrades? Not needed to bring in revenue. Release early, release often? Not a problem, people are paying an annual fee for whatever they get. Vaporware or not, this makes more sense for MS than the model they currently use. It provides a much more stable income and allows for much better growth projections and budgeting. Now, instead of every release hanging on its sales like a movie, they derive their income more like a movie rental. Not tons of money at once, but a more consistent usage over time. And as a bonus, if you are leasing their product, nowhere in the expectations of anyone is the idea that you own the copy you have. Just look at the auto industry. Where do you think they actually make more money? Sales or Leasing?
Read the last paragraph... I never said that the PC would go away.
Will the console kill the PC? Nah. They will merge. Another product will emerge that will be some combination of the concepts of the two (not necessarily the best of each). And each one will keep on going as a part of the chain, or an independent component, whatever the individual consumer wants.
Of course you will get to choose the modules. MS will have a large list of MS or MS partner made pre-approved apps or modules that you can install from.
They might allow open source, but I would not be holding my breath.
I am surprised at how long it has taken the MS to get to this point. This has the potential to be far more profitable to them than the current model. If it is not installed, they do not support it. If it is installed, then that is an extra cha-ching for them. It eliminates the bundling issues, and allows people to semi-customize their MS installations. It is a huge win-win-win for MS, MS partners and MS customers. That is provided they do it right.
I am willing to bet that there is a fee to become a viable installable module proivder (or at least to get a module listed). I am willing to bet that there might be some kind of specialized location where the modules can be downloaded (and only from this locations of other *approved* locations). MS was (is?) very smart at making money. This could be a great time to buy their stock. If they can put out an OS that actually competes with many of linux's merits and allows the *windows* experience their fans have come to desire, they have a chance for a strong winner.
Now, lets see what they actually release. Everything else until then is vapor.
How about a bus that allows mice, trackballs, and other attachments to be hung on it. Then, put some more oomph in the console in memory and allow basic applications. With the new displays being sold, you could have your PC migrate to the console.
I do not see that coming. What I see coming is the PC, the console, the DVR, the DVD Player, etc all melting into an appliance that provides everything that the normal family wants/needs. It will feed multiple displays (with slots or bus attachments available to allow more displays to be hooked up and used by different people for different tasks simultaneously.) The funny part is that MS's *new* OS might be able to accomplish exactly this. It is modular, so you only need to load what you are going to use. It is multi-user, so it can accommodate multiple simultaneous users with different interface requirements, and it can be run without a GUI, which allows it to be used on a screen, a LED display, a console display, a PIP display, etc. MS wants the entertainment market. The thing they are missing is an OS flexible enough to scale from the entry to the high end. This is that potential (if you believe all the hype).
Will the console kill the PC? Nah. They will merge. Another product will emerge that will be some combination of the concepts of the two (not necessarily the best of each). And each one will keep on going as a part of the chain, or an independent component, whatever the individual consumer wants.
And comparing Perl to biochemical engineering, I can see you have no idea.
Sorry, I forgot the humor tags.
Your response was such that I decided to go back and look at your other posts. You seem to not normally snap at people, but you did that time. I think what you missed is the common complaint that Perl is a language riddled with side effects. I code in Perl as well and I use them myself. Add a chemical to a body, that has a specific target receptor you are aiming for (or a target effect), and we normally find many receptors and/or many effects. That is why so many promising drugs fail. They have too many side effects. From a simple persons perspective, caffeine makes you feel more awake, more energized, but starts a ruthless cycle of actually making you less energetic (similar to sugars). Same thing for Meth. How about NSAID pain killers. Their task is to block pain. But, they have some very nasty side effects. Not necessarily common, but present and enough of a problem to be wary of their existence. That is what I mean by side-effects. Perl is a great example from a programming side (especially on/.) as most people here tend to undertand a few things about Perl. Ease of writing unreadable code (Which I believe is universal in all languages) and the gotchas Perl presents for side-effects (DWIM-isms). Yeah, Mr Obvious could tell there is no comparison between Perl as a language and biochemical activities, but the side-effects because of DWIM and the mess of obfuscated Perl seem to paint the right picture from what I have touched.
There are no programming languages that can be compared to anything in biochemical engineering that I am aware of.
Yep, engineers are the ones that make the machines, but most of them still can not use them themselves to solve medical problems. Kind of like the guy who makes hammers but can't get the nails in. I want my hammer from him, but he is not building my house. I want my MRI from the best engineers, but I still want a good doc for what ails me. I have used Perl in gene analysis in the past. Better tools exist today, but Perl is still great for some things. We have used (and still do use) BioPerl to get things done amongst other tools as well.
Probably not. I am trying to cram my/.ing in between compilations and editing of a database for a commerce catalog. now, that gets proofread.. though my posts suffer.
Bush believes in his convictions. To the point that he admitted God told him to do what he did. I kind of like the willing to change their mind when presented with evidence to the contrary scientific type. Forget the bullheaded charging I am going to get this done my way type.
What might be truly refreshing though is to have a politician who simply looks at the American People and the future of the American People and does what is right by those terms. I would love to learn how it feels to have a President like that.
I have worked at/with both sides of that fence. Medicine is a heck of a lot harder than engineering. The complexity of biological systems is typically orders higher than most engineering projects, and those are the simple biological components. In engineering, you typically (not always) pick your tools, materials, etc to design your solution. In medicine, you have to discover your materials and then find the tools that match the materials you know about (and hope there is no problem with the materials you do not know about).
There is a reason that the FDA has such rigorous standards for food additives and medicine (thought less so than before Bush Jr). People (or pets) are very complicated bio-chemical sets. And, they are not identical. Each one tends to be rather unique. What works for group X does not work for groups A, D or G and vice versa. There are so many things in engineering we get to simply not focus on, but in biological sciences, they bite us if we ignore them.
I fully encourage every engineer to start learning biochemical engineering. It is the engineering of the future, as it holds the promise of so many cure, preventions and solutions to most of what troubles us (world citizens). But, get ready for some very complicated sets of rules and get ready to spend a much larger chunk of time memorizing the basics.
For me, it is great fun. It is cutting edge and I am going after a Masters and Doctorates in the fields starting this summer.
Just imagine learning how to write a program using genes and bio-chemicals to manipulate bio-processes. Now, talk about side effects, heck Perl is child's play compared to that! If you have not spent much time in it, try taking 40 hours per week for the next year to learn the basics. You might cram it all in, ut most won't, and you will have scratched the surface.
There is a responsibility to protect data in the US as well. That is why Homeland Security spends os much time gathering it. They have to make sure your information is clean, and then arrest oyu and stop you from making it more unclean if you seem to be doing so.
Oh, yeah, they do go after criminals as well, especially the ones not in power or unable to come up with the right campaign contributions.
Slashdot Mirror
I believe there are plenty (millions if not billions) of standard web pages. Look so much like each other that from a design layout perspective, normally you can make many of them from the same template. But, this is probably because certain designs work very well for certain applications, and many people look at a page the same way they do a newspaper or a book. Which of course means designing as if the person were looking at a newspaper or a book makes it easier for the reader (the one you did all this for) to follow your site!
InnerWeb
Well, I finally found a use for psychoactive drugs. OMG. What were they thinking when they made that site? And more importantly, why is it still up? Ack!
InnerWeb
Some solutions, not tested and not reviewed, but simply googled. I have used other solutions for clients in the past. They have worked well on an IBM systems that was networked. The data wound up on a postgresql database that was then linked through a client application and a web server for different kinds of reporting and control.
These are just a few of the listings off of Google on a search:
Remember though that POS is one of the most important aspects of any retail or store front type business. So, be wary of what you choose. Choosing a POS system is more about the relationship you are building with your system provider and maintainers than the actual system itself. Some systems require less of a relationship, but I have never run across a situation where that relationship was not present and integral to the long term use of the system. That relationship could be with the OSS developers and users or a company. I wish you luck on your choice. And, please post back to here as to what you chose, why and then your experiences. I prefer the OSS way in most cases as I can make modifications where I (my client) need them. But some applications I farm out to a company as the requirements are outside of my experience.
InnerWeb
I doubt they needed *those specific seeds* for a full replanting.
Do you know of a method for extracting only one type of seed from the harvest? DO you know how the farmer is supposed to know by looking at the harvested corn which corn seeds are contaminated by Monsanto? You probably don't and neither do the farmers. I live in a city that is still heavy in agriculture. I work with many farmers, and though I work with computers for them, they give me an earful about what is happening. Monsanto has sued farmers whose crops have been contaminated by Monsanto seeds. Some of the farmers around here have had to get out of those markets, as they can not afford the risk or insurance of defending against a potential Monsanto attack. It has also ruined some fields that were growing *natural* crops, as the cross pollination corrupted the seeds of the natural crops.
So, all things aside, there is plenty of fiscal damage going on to many others, but not Monsanto. They are not being held liable for the damages they have caused.
InnerWeb
From their own description of the OS...Ubuntu and Debian are closely related. Ubuntu builds on the foundations of Debian architecture and infrastructure, with a different community and release process. ... Debian is "the rock upon which Ubuntu is built".
Ubuntu is a derivative of Debian. A very good one.
InnerWeb
That's no black hole. It's a space station.
Well, at least we know they have increased the range and power of its death laser.
InnerWeb
That is reassuring actually. I thought Bush had killed Miranda rights.
[/humor]InnerWeb
China, Microsoft, whats the difference?
[/humor]InnerWeb
And that would be different from the other loves how? ;-)
InnerWeb
Very big companies listen to courts? I thought all they listened to were threats at gunpoint.
InnerWeb
Ahh man. That is the problem with dry humor, eh? Need more sleep!
InnerWeb
Sorry, that was a bit to dry. It was meant to be humor.
InnerWeb
I think you need to add a hunting rifle in there somewhere.
InnerWeb
No, but I have heard that undeveloped oil reserves were recently discovered.
InnerWeb
Which point? At this point, it's just vapor.
Vapor.. yep, it is just vapor for now. They have kicked it around for years. Now, rumor has it they are building an OS that is modular and could do just this. The point I am referring to is the modular OS. It is hard to nickel and dime people with anything monolithic. You want people to get a cheap base whatever and then a la carte themselves to death. But, for that to work, there has to be a compelling reason. Linux has given it to them. Not as a competitor, but in its design. Modular is what many (if not most) admins want. Why do I like Linux? So I can poke around in its guts? At home, on my dime, sure, its fun. At work that is not what I get payed for. At work, it is modular, I can drop stuff that is not needed (like a GUI). I can change the way it is built to make it better for the task it is to be used for. MS as of yet does not do that. It is probable that it could, and it might be doing just that with the next version of windows. But, you are right, it is vapor for now, and given MS's past of marketing vapor, I take what they say with a huge grain of salt.
Maybe they are just trying to get people to buy Vista instead of adopt something else. Not unheard of with them. In this case though, I have even more reason to not buy Vista now. Something better might be around the corner. Vista is a net negative move for us. I might use it at home for a gaming system if I really *need* to, but I doubt it. At work, I see no reason to use it at all. It costs more money, requires more hardware, and provides a completely new set of issues to learn to manage. I'll pass on that. So, if this is another vaporware product from MS, they are just convincing me to stay away. Given that the new product sounds so much better and closer than the current OS de jour, I hope their marketing beanies understand the net negative this would have on their newest OS. Even if they discontinue support for XP, it will not impact us, as we have not using their support for XP, except certain patches being downloaded. They could end that and things will continue as they are anyway.
Now, that is where I think the real reason for going to an annual lease is. If you are leasing software that they end support for, you do not just keep on going. You have to upgrade. Hmm.. Things are getting clearer now. We would all be paying an annual fee anyway. So that not enough new sales problem just goes away. They provide support for the products people pay for. End of product life? Not needed to bring in more revenue now. Product upgrades? Not needed to bring in revenue. Release early, release often? Not a problem, people are paying an annual fee for whatever they get. Vaporware or not, this makes more sense for MS than the model they currently use. It provides a much more stable income and allows for much better growth projections and budgeting. Now, instead of every release hanging on its sales like a movie, they derive their income more like a movie rental. Not tons of money at once, but a more consistent usage over time. And as a bonus, if you are leasing their product, nowhere in the expectations of anyone is the idea that you own the copy you have. Just look at the auto industry. Where do you think they actually make more money? Sales or Leasing?
InnerWeb
Read the last paragraph... I never said that the PC would go away.
Will the console kill the PC? Nah. They will merge. Another product will emerge that will be some combination of the concepts of the two (not necessarily the best of each). And each one will keep on going as a part of the chain, or an independent component, whatever the individual consumer wants.
InnerWeb
Of course you will get to choose the modules. MS will have a large list of MS or MS partner made pre-approved apps or modules that you can install from.
They might allow open source, but I would not be holding my breath.
I am surprised at how long it has taken the MS to get to this point. This has the potential to be far more profitable to them than the current model. If it is not installed, they do not support it. If it is installed, then that is an extra cha-ching for them. It eliminates the bundling issues, and allows people to semi-customize their MS installations. It is a huge win-win-win for MS, MS partners and MS customers. That is provided they do it right.
I am willing to bet that there is a fee to become a viable installable module proivder (or at least to get a module listed). I am willing to bet that there might be some kind of specialized location where the modules can be downloaded (and only from this locations of other *approved* locations). MS was (is?) very smart at making money. This could be a great time to buy their stock. If they can put out an OS that actually competes with many of linux's merits and allows the *windows* experience their fans have come to desire, they have a chance for a strong winner.
Now, lets see what they actually release. Everything else until then is vapor.
InnerWeb
How about a bus that allows mice, trackballs, and other attachments to be hung on it. Then, put some more oomph in the console in memory and allow basic applications. With the new displays being sold, you could have your PC migrate to the console.
I do not see that coming. What I see coming is the PC, the console, the DVR, the DVD Player, etc all melting into an appliance that provides everything that the normal family wants/needs. It will feed multiple displays (with slots or bus attachments available to allow more displays to be hooked up and used by different people for different tasks simultaneously.) The funny part is that MS's *new* OS might be able to accomplish exactly this. It is modular, so you only need to load what you are going to use. It is multi-user, so it can accommodate multiple simultaneous users with different interface requirements, and it can be run without a GUI, which allows it to be used on a screen, a LED display, a console display, a PIP display, etc. MS wants the entertainment market. The thing they are missing is an OS flexible enough to scale from the entry to the high end. This is that potential (if you believe all the hype).
Will the console kill the PC? Nah. They will merge. Another product will emerge that will be some combination of the concepts of the two (not necessarily the best of each). And each one will keep on going as a part of the chain, or an independent component, whatever the individual consumer wants.
InnerWeb
And comparing Perl to biochemical engineering, I can see you have no idea.
Sorry, I forgot the humor tags.
Your response was such that I decided to go back and look at your other posts. You seem to not normally snap at people, but you did that time. I think what you missed is the common complaint that Perl is a language riddled with side effects. I code in Perl as well and I use them myself. Add a chemical to a body, that has a specific target receptor you are aiming for (or a target effect), and we normally find many receptors and/or many effects. That is why so many promising drugs fail. They have too many side effects. From a simple persons perspective, caffeine makes you feel more awake, more energized, but starts a ruthless cycle of actually making you less energetic (similar to sugars). Same thing for Meth. How about NSAID pain killers. Their task is to block pain. But, they have some very nasty side effects. Not necessarily common, but present and enough of a problem to be wary of their existence. That is what I mean by side-effects. Perl is a great example from a programming side (especially on /.) as most people here tend to undertand a few things about Perl. Ease of writing unreadable code (Which I believe is universal in all languages) and the gotchas Perl presents for side-effects (DWIM-isms). Yeah, Mr Obvious could tell there is no comparison between Perl as a language and biochemical activities, but the side-effects because of DWIM and the mess of obfuscated Perl seem to paint the right picture from what I have touched.
There are no programming languages that can be compared to anything in biochemical engineering that I am aware of.
Yep, engineers are the ones that make the machines, but most of them still can not use them themselves to solve medical problems. Kind of like the guy who makes hammers but can't get the nails in. I want my hammer from him, but he is not building my house. I want my MRI from the best engineers, but I still want a good doc for what ails me. I have used Perl in gene analysis in the past. Better tools exist today, but Perl is still great for some things. We have used (and still do use) BioPerl to get things done amongst other tools as well.
InnerWeb
lol!
Probably not. I am trying to cram my /.ing in between compilations and editing of a database for a commerce catalog. now, that gets proofread.. though my posts suffer.
InnerWeb
Bush believes in his convictions. To the point that he admitted God told him to do what he did. I kind of like the willing to change their mind when presented with evidence to the contrary scientific type. Forget the bullheaded charging I am going to get this done my way type.
What might be truly refreshing though is to have a politician who simply looks at the American People and the future of the American People and does what is right by those terms. I would love to learn how it feels to have a President like that.
InnerWeb
I have worked at/with both sides of that fence. Medicine is a heck of a lot harder than engineering. The complexity of biological systems is typically orders higher than most engineering projects, and those are the simple biological components. In engineering, you typically (not always) pick your tools, materials, etc to design your solution. In medicine, you have to discover your materials and then find the tools that match the materials you know about (and hope there is no problem with the materials you do not know about).
There is a reason that the FDA has such rigorous standards for food additives and medicine (thought less so than before Bush Jr). People (or pets) are very complicated bio-chemical sets. And, they are not identical. Each one tends to be rather unique. What works for group X does not work for groups A, D or G and vice versa. There are so many things in engineering we get to simply not focus on, but in biological sciences, they bite us if we ignore them.
I fully encourage every engineer to start learning biochemical engineering. It is the engineering of the future, as it holds the promise of so many cure, preventions and solutions to most of what troubles us (world citizens). But, get ready for some very complicated sets of rules and get ready to spend a much larger chunk of time memorizing the basics.
For me, it is great fun. It is cutting edge and I am going after a Masters and Doctorates in the fields starting this summer.
Just imagine learning how to write a program using genes and bio-chemicals to manipulate bio-processes. Now, talk about side effects, heck Perl is child's play compared to that! If you have not spent much time in it, try taking 40 hours per week for the next year to learn the basics. You might cram it all in, ut most won't, and you will have scratched the surface.
InnerWeb
Ack... Proofread your posts!!!
Look for legislation with a rider that excuses Google from any legal liabilities for information sharing with government caretakers.
Though, I would prefer the wording of my first post.
InnerWrb
There is a responsibility to protect data in the US as well. That is why Homeland Security spends os much time gathering it. They have to make sure your information is clean, and then arrest oyu and stop you from making it more unclean if you seem to be doing so.
Oh, yeah, they do go after criminals as well, especially the ones not in power or unable to come up with the right campaign contributions.
InnerWeb
Look for legislation with a rider that excuses Google from any information sharing with government caretakers.
InnerWeb