Environmentalists won't stop till we live in caves...
Yes and industrialists won't stop until we're all covered in sludge. The death they bring to serve their elite is just as bad, if not worse. See it isn't just Nazis and environmentalists. It's anybody that acquires too much power that becomes the problem. Doesn't matter what angle they're working.
...even if you could make 100% clean, with no CO2, no mercury or anything else, these guys would still oppose it...
See that's where you show that you're full of it, and simply trolling for dollars. You make it that clean, mechanize the extraction, etc, and everybody will be happy to use it. But that just ain't gonna happen. No money in it. End of story.
Absolutely! And this is why we should leave the world in the hands of the "free" market. The market knows all. While the acid rain trickles down. We are wired for sound and cookin' with gas.
It's all those things. They're all part of the process. You think CO2 is the only thing that comes from this? I'll assume you're not that dumb. Coal is filthy. There's no need to keep using so much of it with all the other alternatives we have available. I don't know what you think you gain by hoarding all your money. It's weird. It's an obsession. You're not thinking straight. You clearly could care less what you leave behind. You know, a little application of the Camper's Creed would go a long way. But screw that, huh? Full Steam ahead!
You cannot/will not make coal clean. That is unconditionally guaranteed. You just want to keep burning coal because it's cheap and convenient. Or you have some other interest. To hell with the consequences. That's for the next generation to deal with. If people are protesting nuclear, it's more likely because it's being handled as negligently as before by the same companies who are dumping sludge into the rivers and crude into the oceans. So if you want to keep your damn iPod charged up, find another way. Some of us are tired of breathing/drinking/eating your shit.
You're absolutely right. The money is the only thing that matters. Sure is amazing how well that monkey trap works on you people. You will starve before you let go of the treasure you hoard.
What do you mean "without emissions"? If it doesn't go into the air, where do you think it goes? Are you even aware of how many tons of byproducts are involved?
See, Cap'n? Too fuckin' easy. Forget tryin' to be Shakespeare. Just go for the gold. Watch this, I'll say it again, and it will get downmodded...Sarah__Palin
When that happens, the only thing with monetary value will be land.
Not even...Machines will be making that too. Even now I always kinda laugh at the people who say how crowded the planet is when I drive by a sign that says, "Next exit 60 miles".
Scarcity is purely a political problem right now. We can drop a pallet anywhere on the planet in just over 12 hours. We pipe oil across across Alaska. We should have no trouble doing the same for water. Too many things we can do with existing tech that would have everybody living la vida loca.
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...patents which are granted but the patent holder never uses against anyone...
Very trusting you are.
"Clean coal" is an oxymoron.
It's much worse than that. It's an ongoing fraud. Just like the stock market.
No, they should claim the 6th of September
that a story on Slashdot's front page was announcement enough. And that the notice would spread faster this way, with more people likely to read it.
Environmentalists won't stop till we live in caves...
Yes and industrialists won't stop until we're all covered in sludge. The death they bring to serve their elite is just as bad, if not worse. See it isn't just Nazis and environmentalists. It's anybody that acquires too much power that becomes the problem. Doesn't matter what angle they're working.
...even if you could make 100% clean, with no CO2, no mercury or anything else, these guys would still oppose it...
See that's where you show that you're full of it, and simply trolling for dollars. You make it that clean, mechanize the extraction, etc, and everybody will be happy to use it. But that just ain't gonna happen. No money in it. End of story.
Absolutely! And this is why we should leave the world in the hands of the "free" market. The market knows all. While the acid rain trickles down. We are wired for sound and cookin' with gas.
I think I've been had... I'll get youuuu
"Trash requests"? You work for them, don't you?
"don't deny your beast inside."
CO2 isn't toxic...
Really? I'll assume you're just messing around.
It's all those things. They're all part of the process. You think CO2 is the only thing that comes from this? I'll assume you're not that dumb. Coal is filthy. There's no need to keep using so much of it with all the other alternatives we have available. I don't know what you think you gain by hoarding all your money. It's weird. It's an obsession. You're not thinking straight. You clearly could care less what you leave behind. You know, a little application of the Camper's Creed would go a long way. But screw that, huh? Full Steam ahead!
You cannot/will not make coal clean. That is unconditionally guaranteed. You just want to keep burning coal because it's cheap and convenient. Or you have some other interest. To hell with the consequences. That's for the next generation to deal with. If people are protesting nuclear, it's more likely because it's being handled as negligently as before by the same companies who are dumping sludge into the rivers and crude into the oceans. So if you want to keep your damn iPod charged up, find another way. Some of us are tired of breathing/drinking/eating your shit.
You're absolutely right. The money is the only thing that matters. Sure is amazing how well that monkey trap works on you people. You will starve before you let go of the treasure you hoard.
...such as carbon capture and sequestration...
And just how much more coal do you have to burn to do all that?
Shall we stop here, or should we go into the hazards of mining and transport and it's associated contamination also?
What do you mean "without emissions"? If it doesn't go into the air, where do you think it goes? Are you even aware of how many tons of byproducts are involved?
All those things are much cleaner than coal. It is only for backroom politics we still depend on the stuff.
How about solar (must cut down trees or cover grass to install)?
Yep, lots of trees and grass in the desert. But jeeze! The iguana population is gonna explode with all the shade.
Is your problem with coal or just energy in general?
I don't understand the question.
In space they can dump it overboard. Got a place to put all that CO2? Check out the raw tonnage you're dealing with before you answer.
The use of coal, no matter what you convert it to, will never be clean.
No, the logic is: "clean" coal doesn't work because there's no such thing. The plants aren't the only part of the process.
Pfft! Yeah right. Pull the other one.
See, Cap'n? Too fuckin' easy. Forget tryin' to be Shakespeare. Just go for the gold. Watch this, I'll say it again, and it will get downmodded...Sarah__Palin
...remember who are responsible for putting him in power.
Sarah Palin?
When that happens, the only thing with monetary value will be land.
Not even...Machines will be making that too. Even now I always kinda laugh at the people who say how crowded the planet is when I drive by a sign that says, "Next exit 60 miles".
Scarcity is suddenly much less of a problem.
Scarcity is purely a political problem right now. We can drop a pallet anywhere on the planet in just over 12 hours. We pipe oil across across Alaska. We should have no trouble doing the same for water. Too many things we can do with existing tech that would have everybody living la vida loca.
I don't care about what other people think about me. But for sissies, worried about hiding their secret surfing behavior, that is bad. -- Anonymous Coward
Sorry man. Hope I didn't spoil the joke