Uh, standard automotive starting battery technology has evolved quite a lot in the past 150 years. There are two types of SLA batteries rather than the old type you require water for, which are more durable and last longer and produce more power per density. They suspend the acid in wildly different ways (one with a glass microstructure, one with a gel, IIRC) instead of sloshing it into open cells. To say that the basic technology is the same is to say that the basic technology of rocketry is the same as the basic technology of cars--burning fuel to move things has always been a thing, but rockets, scram jets, and combustion engines all operate on wildly different principals (for one, burning fuel like that at high altitudes and high speeds to get thrust doesn't actually work--RAM jets and SCRAM jets are made specifically to compress and ignite fuel in ways that don't work at low speeds, and rocket engines have their own design considerations).
Water isn't a high-density fuel. Natural gas is usually stored at 500PSI in adsorption tanks, whereas with just a steel tank you can stuff the same amount of fuel in there at 4000PSI. How much PSI do you think the freed hydrogen from 1gal water would be under stuffed in a 1gal jug?
'dependency hell' doesn't sound like a thing to me. People complain about 'dependency hell' in Fedora/RPM and in Deb, all the time. That's everyone's excuse for running away from stupid broken Redhat and for running away from stupid broken Debian. I've run into dependency issues where I had to knock a package out because neither Yum nor Apt is smart enough to iteratively construct a dependency graph until convergence. I can probably trigger it in a few known cases (install Puppet 2.7, then add the puppetlabs repo and install Puppet 3.0... on Ubuntu 12.10) and get it added to apt, while Yum will probably lag behind forever. Note that the same happens with i.e. Percona, if you switch to Percona-Cluster-XtraDB from just Percona-Server... it can't reconcile that it needs to remove the Percona-Server-shared package (which is required for a dependency) and replace it with Percona-Cluster-XtraDB-shared (which satisfies the same dependency), so you have to rpm -e --force it and then install the package and Yum is happy.
Of course, in apt you can just apt-get -f install and it figures out what's wrong and fixes it. (-f means 'fix', and -f install fixes whatever's broken by installing the correct thing, replacing dependencies as needed without crying about it).
Consider when you burn 2H2 + O2 you get 2H2O + heat. That means you need energy to go from H2O to H2 + O. Heat, current, something.
Catalytic water reaction: Will eventually freeze itself. It may reach absolute zero; probably not nearly. Will require heat input.
Non-catalytic water reaction: will take as much energy to produce the fuel as is required to break down the water, at least. Really, more energy in (and lost) than energy out. Catalytic recycling of the reactionary products of the fuel would absorb heat, see above.
Odd since the Meta4 key (the one that has the Windows logo on it) still works; the top-left corner will bring up the Activities view and show your running apps, desktops, launchers, and the search box and application browser; etc. I guess you saw the familiar "Power" button and only had the one brain cell to click that, seeing nothing else familiar and having no idea how to explore and experiment.
To be honest, I'd be much happier if Redhat/Fedora leveraged a more Debian-like system. I mean, with systemd and all; but call apache2 apache2 instead of 'httpd' (isn't nginx httpd?), have/etc/apache2/sites-{available,enabled} and so on;/etc/default instead of/etc/sysconfig and the huge mess in there; and so on. Also apt and deb outstrip RPM and Yum in just about every way, from stability to speed to feature set; yum has all kinds of plug-ins that poorly approximate some of the basic features of apt like autoremove
Did you see the link posted there? They get 30% efficiency from their solar collector by putting a big metal mirror satellite dish on the ground and pointing it at the sun, with a sterling engine at the focal point. The hot side heats up to 1200 degrees, the engine pumps, the output drives a dynamo. Since when is a combustion engine. God damn man the link is the first thing in the post and there's no mention of cars or engines in the actual post.
The problem is their SSL keys are 1024 bit, which is trivial to break if you have $168 million. RSA theorized you would need $168 billion to do it in 1 day back in 2002; however today computers are faster, we have massively parallel GPU crap, and cracking RSA is embarrassingly parallel. If we take that out to 1000 days (3 years) it's $168 million circa 2002; however with the current advancements, you could probably do it in a week for less. Nothing that's going to win any contests--the guy who cracked 768 bit RSA didn't use a specially built $200 million array.
You disagree because you believe rights come from somewhere magical. Your best explanation is that you believe you should be allowed to do certain things, so you have that right because you are physically capable of such and can mentally conceive of it. Socrates, Voltaire, and Franklin are the source: these are ideals just like Odin, Buddhism, and Zen.
While it is true that ideals cannot be taken away, that doesn't make them real. For example there is the Phonecian ideal whereby everyone has the right to enjoy themselves and have free, open sexual congress in the street. This was a thing in society and the right to access to sexual congress could not be infringed by anyone back then. People made the exact same arguments that you make about speech; nowadays we lock people up for having sex with 15 year old girls, which would have people from those societies talking about our gross human rights violations.
How do you compare a sterling engine to a car engine? A car engine has to deal with explosions happening inside it. It has to deal with sharp reciprocation at high force. A sterling engine has constant energy pumped into and out of it and rides a smooth power curve. Sterling engines do not compress, start to peak, then have high amounts of energy from burning energy-dense fuel slammed down their throats to shove the piston back down.
You're still getting on in this idea that because you decided something should be a certain way it thus inherently IS that way. You should be allowed to express your opinions without fear of repercussion, and thus you ARE allowed, and if a tyranny suppresses that then they are infringing on that. This in the face of that 1) we put a great deal of effort into securing those so-called 'rights', just like you put a great deal of effort (and tax money) into securing access to a car and roads and food; and 2) while the law may SAY you have those rights, and you may IMAGINE you have them... you don't, since people are being arrested and convicted and put in jail in violation of those rights.
This goes back to (1), since people are no longer working, and he who does not work nor shall he eat--people are not in general freaking out and demanding blood because of rights infringement, so those rights somehow seem to no longer exist. If you haven't done the work, you haven't earned those privileges like free speech and the right to security against search and seizure. The government will happily arrest you because you are inconvenient and annoying, and they will take all your stuff and sell it.
I hate siding with the druggies but let's talk about marijuana laws. The Constitution confers all powers not claimed to the higher organization down to the lower: powers not granted to the Federal government nor restricted from the States are at the hands of the State or the People. The Federal Government made marijuana illegal, but the Constitution doesn't allow that; thus some states make marijuana legal, and then the Federal Government sends an armed invasion to arrest people. The people of those states have not demanded that the State National Guard defend their sovereignty by interceding and repelling the Federal agents performing these gross violations.
Further, the Federal Attorney General issued a statement by which they explained the policy was to seize property on which drug sale and use was occurring with the knowledge and inaction of the landlord (i.e. the owner) and then auction it; in this memo they mentioned, briefly, that they take no action for violations occurring on properties under $50,000 in estimated value--they won't even come and arrest you for having a giant Ecstasy party; that's the State's problem and the State can waste their money on building a police force to handle that along with all the other crime.
Whatever rights you imagine you have, such mental masturbation will not convey you magical powers from fairy tales. You only get things through sweat and blood; that such a thing would ever exist in 'nature' is a ridiculous notion that came from philosophers like Voltaire and Franklin, folks who didn't understand that the 'natural state' of man is to beat the living hell out of people and to band together in social groups to establish social strictures that prevent them from getting the living hell beat out of them. That social group grands you your 'natural rights,' and when the group stops actively granting them the only thing natural is your fists.
You can have 'em if you can keep 'em. Stop believing they're just there.
I was more indicating that there is a more efficient design (30%) that uses a parabolic reflector to focus sunlight onto a sterling engine, which if it works will continue to work forever. Possibly requires maintenance; the working temperature is 1200 degrees, which means you can't run an Alpha sterling with Teflon seals and bearings since it needs to be kept under 500F. Note that you no longer need to grease your car's chassis because the bearings are all Teflon.and still work 150000 miles in.
Even with maintenance--a little synthetic grease now and then, occasionally replace some seals and rings--this design takes less energy to produce and costs less to upkeep. The sterling engine is effectively a big metal block; the parabolic reflector should be cleaned and polished if it gets dirty or starts to weather. In the end we can recycle them. They are produced with heat, not with harsh chemicals. Melting metal is easier than melting glass (good quality glass softens around 4000C; cheap lime glass will do it at 1200C; Steel is worked below 1100C). Engines are macro-scale mechanical machines where physical shape is to higher tolerance in some (few) places than others; solar panels rely on guiding subatomic particles such as photons and electrons in a fairly precise manner and will not function well (or at all) if there are compositional defects anywhere throughout the substrate, either at manufacture or forming later--this includes oxidization and chemical breakdown from exposure to light and heat, which in a machine is why you change the oil (rather than replace a whole panel).
Keep thinking that. When the police arrest you and you get 30 days for not providing your ID when a cop on the street decides he doesn't like you--as has happened for example in New York to a man who laughed when he saw some cops having trouble with a pedestrian they stopped for bicycling on the sidewalk and subsequently demanded his ID, then arrested him for not obeying an order from an officer--you can cry to the other inmates about how you can't possibly be in jail and your natural rights demand that they free you immediately. This has happened, it has happened many times, it will continue to happen.
What cannot be taken away is your belief in an imaginary non-revocable privilege that only exists as a philosophical ideal. In essence you believe that you should be allowed to do something or to be free of something, and anyone who prevents that is wrong and so that privilege is not taken away but is in fact simply being trampled over. It still exists and you are entitled to it simply because you believe it so. The fact of the matter is it doesn't work that way; if you want your 'rights', make your government protect them.
Soap box, ballot box, jury box, ammo box. Use in that order. Use the first three liberally and at the slightest hint of necessity; hold onto the last one, but try not to open it until you are absolutely forced. Do make sure it's full and ready at hand.
I have the physical ability to forcibly rape women, too. That will probably get me sent to jail, where I may be murdered. Same as having the physical ability to express opinions others may not like--for example, that the world rotates around the sun (almost got Gallileo executed, but instead just house arrest), or that Zeus may not be a thing (got Socrates executed).
Debate is not a mechanism for discovering truth; it is a mechanism for proving to others that you are better than your opponent by making a fool of him. The purpose of debate is to convince others: your opponent would respect you more (and lose confidence) if you prove him wrong; and observers will respect you more if convinced you are right. That doesn't mean you have to actually be right, just that you have to make others believe and follow you so that you are in a higher social standing.
Given all of this, it is obvious that people would seek to hold onto certain ideals as truth and law. What is good for individuals and good for society and what creates a stable and functional society can be determined--for example murder and theft and rape are wrong, we can show this relatively easily because when people feel that they are constantly threatened with these things they will form social groups for protection (i.e. gangs, governments, police forces) and make them laws. That doesn't mean you have any such 'natural rights', but rather that a certain amount of physical dominance has allowed the enforcement of an ideal that happens to be inevitable.
What you call 'rights' are simply 'privileges' and they are earned through sweat and blood. If you are faced with a tyranny, you will lose your so-called 'rights' immediately unless you fight for them. People died for those privileges and people will die for them again, or they will die because they've lost them. What we define as a 'right' is a privilege that is so basic and essential that it can't physically be taken away--of course, it can.
Apt/Deb has 4 levels of dependency, breaks much less often (though rpm --rebuilddb fixes the infrequent breakage), is much faster (yum is slow as hell, like running apt-get update on every operation.. `yum list installed` needs to access the mirrors?), is easier to make packages with, and has built-in tracking of actually selected packages and orphaned dependencies.
Yum/RPM has 'Requires' (as 'Dependencies'), occasionally breaks (rm/var/db/rpm/__db* && rpm --rebuilddb && yum clean), is slow and absolutely unusable without an internet connection, still uses the ridiculously complicated and inflexible SPEC format and build system (I've used both), and has some hackish and not-quite-adequate tools to semi-mimic `apt-get autoremove` but isn't quite there.
Your response shows a vacancy of explanation, or a meekness derived from an explanation that makes no sense.
There is nothing 'natural' about the right to free speech, the highest-regarded 'natural right'. Look at how actual social interaction works: saying something unfavorable gets you shunned. Humans are a species that survives by social cohesion; social rejection is extremely detrimental, and so unfavorable speech will quickly limit your individual viability. Speaking out against the party lines, even when you're 100% correct, will get you shouted down and destroy your political career; if your views are particularly unfavorable and you are made quite well known, it may become difficult to get a job--quite especially, if your views are particularly contrary to the Government's, you can't get a clearance for those kinds of jobs.
Widely-known political views will draw physical fire. Doctors who perform abortions have been assaulted and murdered. Persons who have spoken in public about their beliefs on what is called 'death with dignity' but what is most essentially 'execution by request' or a complicated mix of suicide/murder have faced physical assault--particularly doctors who in their professional opinion espouse that people with debilitating, painful terminal illness should be allowed to end their own life peacefully are avoided or outright attacked for voicing these opinions.
On the smaller scale, saying anything unfavorable to ANYONE has the chance of drawing physical violence. The factors for this are the other person's social standing, which may be derived from perceived usefulness (does he bring the food? Is food hard to get? People will tear you apart at his command) or threat (he's a huge fucking jock, nobody is going to stop him from pummeling the shit out of you).
Essentially the 'natural right' of 'free speech' is that you can do it, but there will be consequences. We pretend this is different when the consequences are the government pummeling you with their fists rather than the guy across the street punching you in the mouth, but there is no essential difference. Your 'natural right' is created artificially by an enforcement structure consisting of public opinion of officers, government-provided police force, local cultural reactions (do they favor you? Is there a bystander effect?), and your own ability to punch people really hard if they attack you for saying stuff they don't like. Consider that historically bar fights over things said were just diffused without arresting people, and you can see that the enforcement of non-consequence between individuals is artificial. Consider that Congress is not to make laws about the free practice and expression of religion, and yet there have been laws and public policy put in place to limit that expression in public. Such rights are artificial in nature.
At the moment, you must present your ID to a police officer when requested or you will be arrested. This can be requested without cause. The right of a person to be secure in his papers refers to the papers of citizenship or immigration--the papers that identify that said person is allowed to be in the country. Your state-issued identification is those 'papers', just it's a plastic polymer. You WILL present your papers when asked, with or without cause, or you WILL be arrested for obstructing an officer. You WILL lose this in court--it has happened, it will happen again, it is public policy. That 'natural right' has passed.
3 shot burst just illustrates how ineffective firearms are at actually killing people. They do their work by repeating. A good head shot or a direct hit to a vital organ is surprisingly hard to do intentionally.
Slashdot Mirror
Then you're not useful for hiring.
Uh, standard automotive starting battery technology has evolved quite a lot in the past 150 years. There are two types of SLA batteries rather than the old type you require water for, which are more durable and last longer and produce more power per density. They suspend the acid in wildly different ways (one with a glass microstructure, one with a gel, IIRC) instead of sloshing it into open cells. To say that the basic technology is the same is to say that the basic technology of rocketry is the same as the basic technology of cars--burning fuel to move things has always been a thing, but rockets, scram jets, and combustion engines all operate on wildly different principals (for one, burning fuel like that at high altitudes and high speeds to get thrust doesn't actually work--RAM jets and SCRAM jets are made specifically to compress and ignite fuel in ways that don't work at low speeds, and rocket engines have their own design considerations).
Water isn't a high-density fuel. Natural gas is usually stored at 500PSI in adsorption tanks, whereas with just a steel tank you can stuff the same amount of fuel in there at 4000PSI. How much PSI do you think the freed hydrogen from 1gal water would be under stuffed in a 1gal jug?
'dependency hell' doesn't sound like a thing to me. People complain about 'dependency hell' in Fedora/RPM and in Deb, all the time. That's everyone's excuse for running away from stupid broken Redhat and for running away from stupid broken Debian. I've run into dependency issues where I had to knock a package out because neither Yum nor Apt is smart enough to iteratively construct a dependency graph until convergence. I can probably trigger it in a few known cases (install Puppet 2.7, then add the puppetlabs repo and install Puppet 3.0... on Ubuntu 12.10) and get it added to apt, while Yum will probably lag behind forever. Note that the same happens with i.e. Percona, if you switch to Percona-Cluster-XtraDB from just Percona-Server... it can't reconcile that it needs to remove the Percona-Server-shared package (which is required for a dependency) and replace it with Percona-Cluster-XtraDB-shared (which satisfies the same dependency), so you have to rpm -e --force it and then install the package and Yum is happy.
Of course, in apt you can just apt-get -f install and it figures out what's wrong and fixes it. (-f means 'fix', and -f install fixes whatever's broken by installing the correct thing, replacing dependencies as needed without crying about it).
It's completely stupid anyway.
Consider when you burn 2H2 + O2 you get 2H2O + heat. That means you need energy to go from H2O to H2 + O. Heat, current, something.
Catalytic water reaction: Will eventually freeze itself. It may reach absolute zero; probably not nearly. Will require heat input.
Non-catalytic water reaction: will take as much energy to produce the fuel as is required to break down the water, at least. Really, more energy in (and lost) than energy out. Catalytic recycling of the reactionary products of the fuel would absorb heat, see above.
Seriously I just update on release day
Odd since the Meta4 key (the one that has the Windows logo on it) still works; the top-left corner will bring up the Activities view and show your running apps, desktops, launchers, and the search box and application browser; etc. I guess you saw the familiar "Power" button and only had the one brain cell to click that, seeing nothing else familiar and having no idea how to explore and experiment.
To be honest, I'd be much happier if Redhat/Fedora leveraged a more Debian-like system. I mean, with systemd and all; but call apache2 apache2 instead of 'httpd' (isn't nginx httpd?), have /etc/apache2/sites-{available,enabled} and so on; /etc/default instead of /etc/sysconfig and the huge mess in there; and so on. Also apt and deb outstrip RPM and Yum in just about every way, from stability to speed to feature set; yum has all kinds of plug-ins that poorly approximate some of the basic features of apt like autoremove
I knew a girl like that, she got better at saying no after college. So now only a small circle of her friends gets head constantly.
Did you see the link posted there? They get 30% efficiency from their solar collector by putting a big metal mirror satellite dish on the ground and pointing it at the sun, with a sterling engine at the focal point. The hot side heats up to 1200 degrees, the engine pumps, the output drives a dynamo. Since when is a combustion engine. God damn man the link is the first thing in the post and there's no mention of cars or engines in the actual post.
If I had that much money, hacking Google and banks would not be interesting. Hell the prize is $200,000.
The problem is their SSL keys are 1024 bit, which is trivial to break if you have $168 million. RSA theorized you would need $168 billion to do it in 1 day back in 2002; however today computers are faster, we have massively parallel GPU crap, and cracking RSA is embarrassingly parallel. If we take that out to 1000 days (3 years) it's $168 million circa 2002; however with the current advancements, you could probably do it in a week for less. Nothing that's going to win any contests--the guy who cracked 768 bit RSA didn't use a specially built $200 million array.
You disagree because you believe rights come from somewhere magical. Your best explanation is that you believe you should be allowed to do certain things, so you have that right because you are physically capable of such and can mentally conceive of it. Socrates, Voltaire, and Franklin are the source: these are ideals just like Odin, Buddhism, and Zen.
While it is true that ideals cannot be taken away, that doesn't make them real. For example there is the Phonecian ideal whereby everyone has the right to enjoy themselves and have free, open sexual congress in the street. This was a thing in society and the right to access to sexual congress could not be infringed by anyone back then. People made the exact same arguments that you make about speech; nowadays we lock people up for having sex with 15 year old girls, which would have people from those societies talking about our gross human rights violations.
How do you compare a sterling engine to a car engine? A car engine has to deal with explosions happening inside it. It has to deal with sharp reciprocation at high force. A sterling engine has constant energy pumped into and out of it and rides a smooth power curve. Sterling engines do not compress, start to peak, then have high amounts of energy from burning energy-dense fuel slammed down their throats to shove the piston back down.
You're still getting on in this idea that because you decided something should be a certain way it thus inherently IS that way. You should be allowed to express your opinions without fear of repercussion, and thus you ARE allowed, and if a tyranny suppresses that then they are infringing on that. This in the face of that 1) we put a great deal of effort into securing those so-called 'rights', just like you put a great deal of effort (and tax money) into securing access to a car and roads and food; and 2) while the law may SAY you have those rights, and you may IMAGINE you have them... you don't, since people are being arrested and convicted and put in jail in violation of those rights.
This goes back to (1), since people are no longer working, and he who does not work nor shall he eat--people are not in general freaking out and demanding blood because of rights infringement, so those rights somehow seem to no longer exist. If you haven't done the work, you haven't earned those privileges like free speech and the right to security against search and seizure. The government will happily arrest you because you are inconvenient and annoying, and they will take all your stuff and sell it.
I hate siding with the druggies but let's talk about marijuana laws. The Constitution confers all powers not claimed to the higher organization down to the lower: powers not granted to the Federal government nor restricted from the States are at the hands of the State or the People. The Federal Government made marijuana illegal, but the Constitution doesn't allow that; thus some states make marijuana legal, and then the Federal Government sends an armed invasion to arrest people. The people of those states have not demanded that the State National Guard defend their sovereignty by interceding and repelling the Federal agents performing these gross violations.
Further, the Federal Attorney General issued a statement by which they explained the policy was to seize property on which drug sale and use was occurring with the knowledge and inaction of the landlord (i.e. the owner) and then auction it; in this memo they mentioned, briefly, that they take no action for violations occurring on properties under $50,000 in estimated value--they won't even come and arrest you for having a giant Ecstasy party; that's the State's problem and the State can waste their money on building a police force to handle that along with all the other crime.
Whatever rights you imagine you have, such mental masturbation will not convey you magical powers from fairy tales. You only get things through sweat and blood; that such a thing would ever exist in 'nature' is a ridiculous notion that came from philosophers like Voltaire and Franklin, folks who didn't understand that the 'natural state' of man is to beat the living hell out of people and to band together in social groups to establish social strictures that prevent them from getting the living hell beat out of them. That social group grands you your 'natural rights,' and when the group stops actively granting them the only thing natural is your fists.
You can have 'em if you can keep 'em. Stop believing they're just there.
I was more indicating that there is a more efficient design (30%) that uses a parabolic reflector to focus sunlight onto a sterling engine, which if it works will continue to work forever. Possibly requires maintenance; the working temperature is 1200 degrees, which means you can't run an Alpha sterling with Teflon seals and bearings since it needs to be kept under 500F. Note that you no longer need to grease your car's chassis because the bearings are all Teflon.and still work 150000 miles in.
Even with maintenance--a little synthetic grease now and then, occasionally replace some seals and rings--this design takes less energy to produce and costs less to upkeep. The sterling engine is effectively a big metal block; the parabolic reflector should be cleaned and polished if it gets dirty or starts to weather. In the end we can recycle them. They are produced with heat, not with harsh chemicals. Melting metal is easier than melting glass (good quality glass softens around 4000C; cheap lime glass will do it at 1200C; Steel is worked below 1100C). Engines are macro-scale mechanical machines where physical shape is to higher tolerance in some (few) places than others; solar panels rely on guiding subatomic particles such as photons and electrons in a fairly precise manner and will not function well (or at all) if there are compositional defects anywhere throughout the substrate, either at manufacture or forming later--this includes oxidization and chemical breakdown from exposure to light and heat, which in a machine is why you change the oil (rather than replace a whole panel).
Eventually you need to buy more panels because they don't hold up to, oh, sunlight and air.
http://www.brighthub.com/environment/renewable-energy/articles/65860.aspx 30% or fuck off. Also solar panels are not durable over time and are expensive to make and replace.
That's a motherboard. CPU, RAM, and chipset are on the motherboard. There's some PCI slots to plug other shit into.
Keep thinking that. When the police arrest you and you get 30 days for not providing your ID when a cop on the street decides he doesn't like you--as has happened for example in New York to a man who laughed when he saw some cops having trouble with a pedestrian they stopped for bicycling on the sidewalk and subsequently demanded his ID, then arrested him for not obeying an order from an officer--you can cry to the other inmates about how you can't possibly be in jail and your natural rights demand that they free you immediately. This has happened, it has happened many times, it will continue to happen.
What cannot be taken away is your belief in an imaginary non-revocable privilege that only exists as a philosophical ideal. In essence you believe that you should be allowed to do something or to be free of something, and anyone who prevents that is wrong and so that privilege is not taken away but is in fact simply being trampled over. It still exists and you are entitled to it simply because you believe it so. The fact of the matter is it doesn't work that way; if you want your 'rights', make your government protect them.
Soap box, ballot box, jury box, ammo box. Use in that order. Use the first three liberally and at the slightest hint of necessity; hold onto the last one, but try not to open it until you are absolutely forced. Do make sure it's full and ready at hand.
I have the physical ability to forcibly rape women, too. That will probably get me sent to jail, where I may be murdered. Same as having the physical ability to express opinions others may not like--for example, that the world rotates around the sun (almost got Gallileo executed, but instead just house arrest), or that Zeus may not be a thing (got Socrates executed).
Debate is not a mechanism for discovering truth; it is a mechanism for proving to others that you are better than your opponent by making a fool of him. The purpose of debate is to convince others: your opponent would respect you more (and lose confidence) if you prove him wrong; and observers will respect you more if convinced you are right. That doesn't mean you have to actually be right, just that you have to make others believe and follow you so that you are in a higher social standing.
Given all of this, it is obvious that people would seek to hold onto certain ideals as truth and law. What is good for individuals and good for society and what creates a stable and functional society can be determined--for example murder and theft and rape are wrong, we can show this relatively easily because when people feel that they are constantly threatened with these things they will form social groups for protection (i.e. gangs, governments, police forces) and make them laws. That doesn't mean you have any such 'natural rights', but rather that a certain amount of physical dominance has allowed the enforcement of an ideal that happens to be inevitable.
What you call 'rights' are simply 'privileges' and they are earned through sweat and blood. If you are faced with a tyranny, you will lose your so-called 'rights' immediately unless you fight for them. People died for those privileges and people will die for them again, or they will die because they've lost them. What we define as a 'right' is a privilege that is so basic and essential that it can't physically be taken away--of course, it can.
Don't know how deb would get you to give up on Linux. What specific problems did you have?
...completely safe for all uses as long as it does not come into contact with a dead body, in which case [DATA EXPUNGED]
Apt/Deb has 4 levels of dependency, breaks much less often (though rpm --rebuilddb fixes the infrequent breakage), is much faster (yum is slow as hell, like running apt-get update on every operation.. `yum list installed` needs to access the mirrors?), is easier to make packages with, and has built-in tracking of actually selected packages and orphaned dependencies.
Yum/RPM has 'Requires' (as 'Dependencies'), occasionally breaks (rm /var/db/rpm/__db* && rpm --rebuilddb && yum clean), is slow and absolutely unusable without an internet connection, still uses the ridiculously complicated and inflexible SPEC format and build system (I've used both), and has some hackish and not-quite-adequate tools to semi-mimic `apt-get autoremove` but isn't quite there.
One of these is technically better.
Your response shows a vacancy of explanation, or a meekness derived from an explanation that makes no sense.
There is nothing 'natural' about the right to free speech, the highest-regarded 'natural right'. Look at how actual social interaction works: saying something unfavorable gets you shunned. Humans are a species that survives by social cohesion; social rejection is extremely detrimental, and so unfavorable speech will quickly limit your individual viability. Speaking out against the party lines, even when you're 100% correct, will get you shouted down and destroy your political career; if your views are particularly unfavorable and you are made quite well known, it may become difficult to get a job--quite especially, if your views are particularly contrary to the Government's, you can't get a clearance for those kinds of jobs.
Widely-known political views will draw physical fire. Doctors who perform abortions have been assaulted and murdered. Persons who have spoken in public about their beliefs on what is called 'death with dignity' but what is most essentially 'execution by request' or a complicated mix of suicide/murder have faced physical assault--particularly doctors who in their professional opinion espouse that people with debilitating, painful terminal illness should be allowed to end their own life peacefully are avoided or outright attacked for voicing these opinions.
On the smaller scale, saying anything unfavorable to ANYONE has the chance of drawing physical violence. The factors for this are the other person's social standing, which may be derived from perceived usefulness (does he bring the food? Is food hard to get? People will tear you apart at his command) or threat (he's a huge fucking jock, nobody is going to stop him from pummeling the shit out of you).
Essentially the 'natural right' of 'free speech' is that you can do it, but there will be consequences. We pretend this is different when the consequences are the government pummeling you with their fists rather than the guy across the street punching you in the mouth, but there is no essential difference. Your 'natural right' is created artificially by an enforcement structure consisting of public opinion of officers, government-provided police force, local cultural reactions (do they favor you? Is there a bystander effect?), and your own ability to punch people really hard if they attack you for saying stuff they don't like. Consider that historically bar fights over things said were just diffused without arresting people, and you can see that the enforcement of non-consequence between individuals is artificial. Consider that Congress is not to make laws about the free practice and expression of religion, and yet there have been laws and public policy put in place to limit that expression in public. Such rights are artificial in nature.
At the moment, you must present your ID to a police officer when requested or you will be arrested. This can be requested without cause. The right of a person to be secure in his papers refers to the papers of citizenship or immigration--the papers that identify that said person is allowed to be in the country. Your state-issued identification is those 'papers', just it's a plastic polymer. You WILL present your papers when asked, with or without cause, or you WILL be arrested for obstructing an officer. You WILL lose this in court--it has happened, it will happen again, it is public policy. That 'natural right' has passed.
3 shot burst just illustrates how ineffective firearms are at actually killing people. They do their work by repeating. A good head shot or a direct hit to a vital organ is surprisingly hard to do intentionally.